Play an ambush Mr. Alot of core flaylock. Tisk tisk

I can probably count on one hand how often I die to a flaylock on an average day. They're pretty predictable and easy to dodge when you know someone has one and if you stay out of their effective range. I've seen maybe one guy who's actually really good with one and can kill you at just about any range. It's only OP when six people are spamming them at once, just like grenades.

You're lying out your ass, it takes at a minimum two DIRECT shots to kill anything. Only thing dying in 1 hit is a militia scout.

No No Noooooo !!!!! i have way to much fun with my little pistol

If you dont believe me see the information for yourself
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Flaylock_Pistol
The standard flaylock pistol does 218 on contact and 195 on splash. Average standard drop suit medium runs under 200 hp for most of its shielding and armor. The reload time is 3 seconds which is the same speed as the standard scrambler pistol. Total wtf there. so 218 damage is a kill to anyone not using shield extenders or not using caldari uniforms. and if shields are down instant kill on contact or damn near death by splash if not kill. guarantee. common tactics is flux than flaylock or Mass with flaylock to drain shielding to one hit kill regardless of being a heavy or not. I TESTED this check it out for yourself. Oh and your kills that require two shots are probably splash damage because contact shots are very hard to do.

But for those who want to see real proof check out this guys youtube video of the flaylock. Pay attention how his aim is literally off the target by massive amount in close quarters. Long distance shots not so bad but usually spamming the shots and technically he is compensating for bullet drop but the drop is not that big anyone could do that (Tell me when you watch this video; how many times do you see him aim down his sights vs hip fire aiming). pay attention to the 2 shot kills that are done by splash damage or these guys health are already low vs the one hit kill. And those that do survive two hits probably have shield extenders. Oh and he gets 60points a kill because of the command ring on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw


My SOLUTION: just nerf the damage on Shielding. Keep the damage rate if your shields are down because if your rocking the caldari your solid but running gallente your in trouble. Balance right there by simply counter picking.

A core flaylock will do 197 to shields on a direct hit with no modifiers, those extenders combined with your base shields should give you enough buffer to survive at least 1 hit.

Now... if they've got proficiency and mods....

If you dont believe me see the information for yourself
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Flaylock_Pistol
The standard flaylock pistol does 218 on contact and 195 on splash. Average standard drop suit medium runs under 200 hp for most of its shielding and armor. The reload time is 3 seconds which is the same speed as the standard scrambler pistol. Total wtf there. so 218 damage is a kill to anyone not using shield extenders or not using caldari uniforms. and if shields are down instant kill on contact or damn near death by splash if not kill. guarantee. common tactics is flux than flaylock or Mass with flaylock to drain shielding to one hit kill regardless of being a heavy or not. I TESTED this check it out for yourself. Oh and your kills that require two shots are probably splash damage because contact shots are very hard to do.

But for those who want to see real proof check out this guys youtube video of the flaylock. Pay attention how his aim is literally off the target by massive amount in close quarters. Long distance shots not so bad but usually spamming the shots and technically he is compensating for bullet drop but the drop is not that big anyone could do that (Tell me when you watch this video; how many times do you see him aim down his sights vs hip fire aiming). pay attention to the 2 shot kills that are done by splash damage or these guys health are already low vs the one hit kill. And those that do survive two hits probably have shield extenders. Oh and he gets 60points a kill because of the command ring on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw


My SOLUTION: just nerf the damage on Shielding. Keep the damage rate if your shields are down because if your rocking the caldari your solid but running gallente your in trouble. Balance right there by simply counter picking.

um check your ingame stats of Core Flaylock pistol. its 225 base damage on contact. Go to core flaylock in the marketplace hit triangle and see the attributes to the weapon damage. Add damage modifers in can do damage up to nearly 300 hp on splash. i dont even want to go into proficiency

Check your display when targeting people.

That's total damage dealt, not from one shot.

Oh, and the Flaylock (or MD) isn't OP.

Shields take 70 percent damage.

218 = 152.6, that's not particularly hard to get is it?

how often are people shields already slightly lower

Very, but if they were already injured, then i didn't exactly 1 shot them.

And yeah sure, damage mods help, at the cost survivablity, damage mods for a side-arm? No thanks.

But if you check out this video you will see how easy it is to use as a primary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw

He killed a bunch of INJURED people, big deal. Most of the were already half dead.

A few of them, not all of them. quite abit of them had full health and he is rocking a sidearm which he isn't aiming his shot with them. Look bud i like the weapon too, but to many times have i seen a Logistics Caldri Group rally to gather with 3 complex damage modifers and two shield extenders with their weapon of choice is a sidearm.

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

A few of them, not all of them. quite abit of them had full health and he is rocking a sidearm which he isn't aiming his shot with them. Look bud i like the weapon too, but to many times have i seen a Logistics Caldri Group rally to gather with 3 complex damage modifers and two shield extenders with their weapon of choice is a sidearm.

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

You say he wasn't aiming, he most certainly was, he was also spamming the trigger, but he was aiming, since most of his shots were from a distance.

And he was using trajectory prediction as well.

I believe the forge-gunners call it "leading", but nah, clearly he was just shooting randomly