Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have.

I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree!

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

It's nice to see Mint is still enthusiastic about her job to the point she is even replying to callout threads in a positive (not to mention timely) manner.


I'll give her another week before her poor soul is broken.

I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts?

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

It's nice to see Mint is still enthusiastic about her job to the point she is even replying to callout threads in a positive (not to mention timely) manner.


I'll give her another week before her poor soul is broken.

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

So, very simply, please post exactly when the next update is expected to be released, and what that update will fix.

Thank you

Absolutely, the plan is to internally have a much better system so we can get the proper information out and communicated to you. That's what we are working on atm here in Dust Community :)

Rebuilding the bridge! Hopefully you like it! Maybe you're gonna rather we stop telling you things again. I kid, I kid.

As for generating actual fixes - that is also going as fast as possible. We may or may not be trapping our devs at their computers to work their magic. :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

UPDATE:
We intend to give updates...

We've never heard that before...

More terrible blue posts.

On the Horizon we intend to give you updates about what may or may not happen SoonGäó.

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Where are your shoes?

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Where's our PS4 announcement? Saying it's on the road map isn't good enough any more.

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Walk down to marketing, and smack them upside the head. "Information control" is killing the game, not building suspense. If any department should get the brunt of the hate, it's them.

So in other words I should put in my application to work for CCP as a designer because lets face it, an 10 year old can design a better FPS game than this garbage.

BTW just in case you have not heard PC is Fu*ked up, how about starting from scratch and design something better.

Am I right? Or am I right? lol

It's not on the roadmap. Not being bitter, just stating what I know. If they are it's so hidden the people working on it are not the people who made the game we have so far.

above is the most interesting bit of info in this thread - and possibly that i have read on the forum in a long time. Noc, is this from IRC?

Are you a ten year old, Mr Stubbyducky? Is that your stated qualification for your verbal application to be a part of ccp's team? The fact that you act 10 and spew unconstructive crap at a gaming development staff on the Internet may or may not get you the position you are seeking.

You certainly don't have to take my advice regarding job seeking strategies but here it is (& not just for you but for all of us that continue to lose our patience and post mean unconstructive stuff to a team who are trying very hard to build something successful):

Relax.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Yes, dust has been in development for years. It takes years to build things like this.

If you are certain you can do it better, go do it

If you are sure this game sucks and is going no where, why are you still here?

If the answer is the potential, then try to post constructively. Make a positive impact. Not a negative one.

Believe me, I know the frustration. Been here a long while myself. Felt the pain from lack of info and clarity on ccp's part. But I want to be a voice of patience and reason amidst the rising din.

Change is not just coming soon...it has been happening all along.

Harden Up. Stand fast. Advise CCP of your feedback in a reasonable, informative and positive tone. Stop being mean....doesn't work.

Hi Animal,

From adding content to responding to tears in the forums, you must admit that CCP is both responsive and productive when compared to other game studios.

- Shotty

Absolutely, the plan is to internally have a much better system so we can get the proper information out and communicated to you. That's what we are working on atm here in Dust Community :)

Rebuilding the bridge! Hopefully you like it! Maybe you're gonna rather we stop telling you things again. I kid, I kid.

As for generating actual fixes - that is also going as fast as possible. We may or may not be trapping our devs at their computers to work their magic. :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

So you can continue to ***** like a two year old if they don't get through everything they posted?
GTFO.

We all want a better Dust, but that doesn't give you the right to act like an entitled toddler who misses sucking on his mom's teet. Grow up, and act like an adult.

They are working on it. It means more to them than to you.

Are you a ten year old, Mr Stubbyducky? Is that your stated qualification for your verbal application to be a part of ccp's team? The fact that you act 10 and spew unconstructive crap at a gaming development staff on the Internet may or may not get you the position you are seeking.

You certainly don't have to take my advice regarding job seeking strategies but here it is (& not just for you but for all of us that continue to lose our patience and post mean unconstructive stuff to a team who are trying very hard to build something successful):

Relax.

Rome wasn't built in a day. Yes, dust has been in development for years. It takes years to build things like this.

If you are certain you can do it better, go do it

If you are sure this game sucks and is going no where, why are you still here?

If the answer is the potential, then try to post constructively. Make a positive impact. Not a negative one.

Believe me, I know the frustration. Been here a long while myself. Felt the pain from lack of info and clarity on ccp's part. But I want to be a voice of patience and reason amidst the rising din.

Change is not just coming soon...it has been happening all along.

Harden Up. Stand fast. Advise CCP of your feedback in a reasonable, informative and positive tone. Stop being mean....doesn't work.

Relax guys. Either play or don't play.
I play and take breaks and I'm constantly thinking about this game and how I can improve my tactics as a scout/sniper;

How are you not banned?!

As for lip-service,

So you can continue to ***** like a two year old if they don't get through everything they posted?
GTFO.

We all want a better Dust, but that doesn't give you the right to act like an entitled toddler who misses sucking on his mom's teet. Grow up, and act like an adult.

They are working on it. It means more to them than to you.

UPDATE:
We intend to give updates...

We've never heard that before...

More terrible blue posts.

Thanks Mint, we appreciate you doing what you can.

Relax guys. Either play or don't play.
I play and take breaks and I'm constantly thinking about this game and how I can improve my tactics as a scout/sniper; I also throw in some requests that would enhance the game just a tad.

It's a slow process.
Here's a question: How can the game be more fun?

This is what you choose to respond to? I've stated a very simple and straight forward, yet very important request. You are the reason why we cannot have constructive criticism, you just yell for the sake of yelling with no meaning or purpose.

It is incredibly important that we as a community know exactly what CCP is working on and planning to change in the game. CCP has wasted far too much time fixing things that aren't broken and consequently breaking more things by implementing "hotfixes". For example when CCP tells us they are implementing a hotfix to give LAVs far more health it would've been very apparent to anyone who plays this game more than 10 hours a week that it would create Murder Taxi 514-which is what we have now.

Another example, when CCP first tried to implement Active Omega SP Boosters my first question was how would they interact with boosters that were already active- would they supersede them, replace them, buff them? CCP did not see this issue until release day, and hence had to cancel Active Omega Boosters- thus wasting time- time that could've been saved if they allowed the community to know about their plan, and time that could've been spent fixing much more important things, such as aiming, hit detection, and lag.

So, CCP the reason we need to know what your plans are is so that we can tell you about the collateral damage your hotfixes will cause before you waste time creating them. Furthermore, you waste even more time fixing those unforeseen consequences even though those consequences would be very obvious to the player base and would've been easily avoided if you had just been more straightforward.

We know you have 8 million ideas that you hope to implement in the future- and that's the problem, you are not focused on what you need to be focused on, you're not focused on the most important game-breaking issues. Let the player base know what you are working on in the next update- which will probably be too many things at once- and we will focus you in on the important features and let you know how to implement them most effectively.

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

Just tell the truth and say your too busy monetizing the game and you have no time for insignificant things like gameplay

Oh look, another **** talking alt.

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

So many rude people. Not even clever or stylish rude, just a bunch of rude a$$holes.
How many posters who want to completely trash talk representatives think that does ANYTHING meaningful.
If anything I'm sure the people reading the thread on CCP's end are like, " !*#% these people, no more posts for you bunch of wankers."

i would be offended and not want to have anything to do with those people, personally. We should be grateful that we get anything besides patch notes, let alone friendly responses.

I, too, think CCP and their dust project has a lot of promise. I've played a lot, contributed money, etc.

But let's not split hairs, nor sugar coat a few obvious issues that have arisen since the uprising release. It's become kind of glaring that the devs of dust have some very bizarre priorities, and they lack attention to detail. It seems like problems that would arise from a group of developers all doing their own thing and combining their work in a big mash up resulting in an unharmonious product.

I guess they will eventually arrive at their destination as to where they want this product to be. I have no doubt about that, really. They have a lot of time, and can ultimately do really good damage control once they have a good product. But there have been so many missteps recently, and let's be blunt. Uprising added a little bit of cosmetic changes and very small content updates. However, it added nothing to the foundation, which is as of yet, still quite broken.


They don't need yes man cheer leading right now. They need blunt honest assessments that are productive, intelligent, and nudging. We can pat their backs AFTER they accomplish something, not before. We are all adults here. You aren't guaranteed success. I think they've had enough wake up calls to hopefully realize they are apparently struggling, and need to make some proactive changes that will get them back on their feet.

I mean, does anyone think they are in control right now? It seems like a firefighting fest, and we are all trapped in their burning building. We need a refreshing water hose of bug fixes and content all over us with force. 8 months from now is not going to cut it.

"You should be grateful we do anything for you customer Plebs"

Where are your shoes?

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

im sorry, WTF does this^^ have to do with anything in this thread? i have my shoes in my closet but wearing them only slightly improves the game, and i aint finding patch notes in there

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

just saw battlefield 4 on the live stream

they destroyed a pillar to collapsed a road to kill a tank

they have elevators

they collapsed the building that had the elevator

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

Its all good, broman. Most lurkers like myself understand these things take time. Just let me keep my afk abilities so i can close the sp gap and we'll call it squarsies

look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

TBH, AFK going away NEEDS to be one of the first bugfixes that is released. I'm not saying that it is the most important thing to do, though IMHO, it is a package deal.

If CCP is really real on fixing the foundations, they NEED to make AFK go away. I really get the impression that the "AFK==A-OK" is just CCP's concession because they know the game is broken. If they're planning on making real strides toward the game being not broken, they NEED to FORCE the players to actually PLAY THE GAME if they want the Active SP.

Otherwise, they are just saying "broken game is broken, feel free to not play our broken POS game"

Also, I voted for Kang.

Make the game experience enjoyable and people won't feel the need to AFK. It feels like they want to make SP 100% passive but they don't want to implement it yet because they still need server turn out to justify to investors that everything is fine.

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

I stand by my opinion. If people are really in this for "the long haul" they'll accept the AFK=/=A-OK part of the initial bugfixes. Anyone that won't, wouldn't stick around after the next annual BF/CoD reskin anyway. Give us some credit, give us real fixes and we'll play the game. Just make AFK go away or give us the tools to make it go away ourselves.

Anything less is just acknowledging that people don't want to play Dust. Not only that, it is also aggravating/driving away people who would be willing to deal if they weren't getting faceraped cause they were outnumbered 2:1.

CCP, Mintchip, and other customer service devotees;

Thank you very much for your dedication and commitment to your customers. Thanks for your efforts to make this product the ground breaking, genre moving success that it has the potential to be.

Thank you for your patience in replying to the endless avalanche of hyperbole and grief that many posters fling in your general direction.

Despite appearances, not every player believes that Uprising, Dust514, or CCP are responsible for all the evil in the world let alone everything that is wrong with online gaming today.

You are doing a great job balancing a myriad of demands against a finite set of resources. I appreciate your efforts.



Whining, complaining Internet game forum diaspora;

Chill out already.

This. +1. If I were at CCP maybe I would have run out of patience already.

@Cosgar

If you used to think like me, then find your integrity again and play for the other aspects you'll be pursuing. If not that, save yourself on electric bills and turn off your PS3 when you AFK. Once things are fixed for real, we'll be getting enough numbers that you won't need to worry about not being one of the "max SP 1337"

Who said anything about wanting max SP? If they don't fix my weapon, I'm not going to fight. Take an AR, ADS while you're shooting a red dot and imagine that even though you're shooting directly at your target, your shots wind up pulling to the left or if they would hit their mark, they go directly through your target. Now imagine that the devs tell you they have a fix but you have to wait until the next major update and you're SOL until then. Welcome to my world. I would just stop playing altogether but I still need to farm SP for an AR since its the only serviceable weapon in the goddamned game.

Who said anything about wanting max SP? If they don't fix my weapon, I'm not going to fight. Take an AR, ADS while you're shooting a red dot and imagine that even though you're shooting directly at your target, your shots wind up pulling to the left or if they would hit their mark, they go directly through your target. Now imagine that the devs tell you they have a fix but you have to wait until the next major update and you're SOL until then. Welcome to my world. I would just stop playing altogether but I still need to farm SP for an AR since its the only serviceable weapon in the goddamned game.

People aren't being dicks. However, sensitive people needlessly have their **** alarms going off... wait.. that didn't come out right. shoot, oops. too much innuendo and it won't stop.

ahem...

This game has major issues. We can talk about it. relax. no one is going to take your game away from you.

And Sony isn't the problem. That's just inventing excuses.

I feel your pain about this issue but please try to understand that there's more to it than CCP beeing d!cks about it.

Who are you even talking to? If that sony remark is a response to my post. Did you understand what i just wrote? Do you have justification for saying it's just an "excuse"?

Who are you even talking to? If that sony remark is a response to my post. Did you understand what i just wrote? Do you have justification for saying it's just an "excuse"?

This is a very good point, however CCP would do well to inform us all of when these things are happening.

Something like an announcement stating when (semi-specifically) they intend to submit the update to Sony QC for approval, and the patch notes.

Communication is KING!

Eliminate the cloak and dagger routine.

Doesn't the fact that info on the MD was posted in a TAC AR topic kind of bother you?

Of course it does. We both have agreed on more than one occasion that communication both ingame and out of the game is painfully lacking and i believe that most of what happens on the forums lately is a direct result of that.

You think they would learn their lesson after the EVE forums used to be like this due to, what else? lack of communication...

Um, I'm talking to you. I guess you figured it out and blew a gasket? lolz.

I did understand what you just wrote. But I seriously doubt you do.

Sony is not responsible for the development problems with dust. To say it is, is to make an excuse on CCPs part.

My justification is that mostly, that's all conjecture, at best, on your part. You do not know that as fact. In addition, many developers in the world have worked with sony, for better or good, to release their games, DLC, patches, and what have you for years. They have an established protocol to release such things. Sony outlined it mostly unchanged quite awhile ago. Apple and microsoft do the same checks that sony does. It is all very predictable, and has no bearing whatsoever on development itself.


Got it?

Good. so it's an excuse you made up. now run along.

What happened to QC with DC Universe Online?

I never said SONY would be responsible for the development problems with dust. I adressed a very specific issue and you choose to argue against something else, so i just go ahead and provide something beyond conjecture.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/04/scee-qa-holds-up-trine-2-launch-in-europe/

This shows that sony doesn't even have to delay the actual development to delay a release. Quality Assurance (yeah is said QC, that's wrong) obviously takes time and and people and unless you assume that sony has unlimited human resources that don't need to be paid you can hazard the guess that CCP pays for this process every time they submit an update.

If AFK goes away you can be sure of one thing, player numbers will fall off. I played ten matches earlier. Of those ten matches I played almost every single match on the same map. Only a few of those times the buildings/turrets were rearranged.

Given the dearth of any meaningful fixes and the trickle of content, it says volumes about their fan base, that we see enough potential in the future to grind now.

I understand you hate AFKing at this moment. But! I assure you, the dichotomy of this game's stagnation versus promise will have you AFKing before long. And if not, all the power to you. But you have to understand you just haven't gotten to where a lot of the old timer player base has. At least we haven't abandoned ship :)

Yea. So you are making up scenarios you don't know much about. FACT.

This game has been in development for years. FACT.

They had a long time between chromosome and uprising. FACT.

Sony didn't delay a gaddamn thing for CCP. FACT.

run along.

Yea. So you are making up scenarios you don't know much about. FACT.

This game has been in development for years. FACT.

They had a long time between chromosome and uprising. FACT.

Sony didn't delay a gaddamn thing for CCP. FACT.

run along.

I'm not familiar with DCUO and therefore completely oblivious to their updating schedule but i can just assume that they pack their client updates in batches just as CCP does or suck up the increased cost for more granular updates.

Edit: Based on this wiki their updates are similarly spaced to dust (1.1 was the last 1.2 will be the next). This assumes that i'm looking at the right game/wiki, of course.

DCUO murdered their PvP by watering the combat down and creating a never ending stream of FOTM weapons and powers... Kind of like another free2play game I know...

DCUO is still riddled with bugs and glitches from launch and at times can be unplayable. The pop in is actually worse than Dust 514 and Borderlands put together.

This is the most current devpost i can find on this issue and it mentions the need for clientside changes. To be fair though, it does not explain why client side changes have to wait for the larger patch so it's understandable that those stuck with a broken gun are not charmed. That's why i tried to give a little explanation on why this cannot (feasibly) be hotfixed as the available info is not sufficient without this bit of knowledge.

Yes I agree and sympathize with those players as well because I can relate. I cannot use the dropsuit I wish to use, though not because it is bugged -- it simply hasn't been added to the game.

Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D

As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

yet again HOW DA **** ARE U A COMMUNITY REP YOU DONT EVEN PLAY DUST

Where are your shoes?

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

You don't have any more insight into the issues than that guy. Fact.

Player numbers will not drop due to removal of afk. To be a player, you must play. Afkers are, therefore, not players, but merely parasites on the players. Good riddance.

Wow you won, just stop mutilating the term "fact" as if it makes everything magically true or relevant to the topic at hand.

TL; DR of this thread.

*rage* I feel entitled to know what CCP is doing all the time constantly and they must reach everyone of my demands by tomorrow rabble rabble rabble *rage*

TL; DR of this thread.

*rage* I feel entitled to know what CCP is doing all the time constantly and they must reach everyone of my demands by tomorrow rabble rabble rabble *rage*

ccp already does this with eve, and people love them for it
not sure why we're kept in the dark dust side? i'd love to enter into conversation with ccp about upcoming fixes.
considering how this game was basically a flop at launch, all they have left is us diehards to help them fix their game

"We"? lol. How is it that you guys have time to stroll the forums when you should be coding? Or, is feeding us cheer messages what the majority of you "blue-tags" really do? Because, technically, "we" aren't working hard to get fixes out to qq'rs, carebears and the nerfin-derp patrol if that's the case. In fact, be honest CCP, all that you are required to do is tell us, hmm hmm:

"we are working very hard to, blah blah blah"
"thank you guys for be patient, blah blah blah"
"we look forward to hearing more feedback, blah blah blah" etc.

Am I right? Or am I right? lol

So, clearly the issue here is that the CCP Shanghai staff have the gall to do anything other than code for the 24 hours we have in each day, only 8 of which they are probably on the clock.

inb4 some jerkoff says salary means you have to work 24/7

Well they had the gall to charge money for a beta (merc pack, wink wink) and promise an awesome game. Far from coding 24/7 their whole office took off for half a week for a ! Kite - chasing festival in Shanghai - now that's true commitment to work, true work ethics.

We are definitely working on those things. :P Including, but not limited to, such things as Aim, Movement, Matchmaking, New player experiences. These things have been talked about across the forum and are being worked on. As for new features or the specifics on those fixes and the changes that are coming - can't be expressed at the moment but we are at the precipice of making that information known.

We want your feedback on specifics of the game, critical feedback on what is perceived as needing work. This is the stuff that we read and listen to and bring up in meetings. We are also the ones that are working on getting the developers to put into words all the things they are doing specifically, the nitty-gritty stuff that you guys can then dissect - colorfully.

We are changing our emphasis internally and we'll hopefully be telling you about that more in the near future. You may have already noticed some of the effects with more forum activity from blues. While it might not seem like much, what you're experiencing are the initial ripples.

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

We are definitely working on those things. :P Including, but not limited to, such things as Aim, Movement, Matchmaking, New player experiences. These things have been talked about across the forum and are being worked on. As for new features or the specifics on those fixes and the changes that are coming - can't be expressed at the moment but we are at the precipice of making that information known.

We want your feedback on specifics of the game, critical feedback on what is perceived as needing work. This is the stuff that we read and listen to and bring up in meetings. We are also the ones that are working on getting the developers to put into words all the things they are doing specifically, the nitty-gritty stuff that you guys can then dissect - colorfully.

We are changing our emphasis internally and we'll hopefully be telling you about that more in the near future. You may have already noticed some of the effects with more forum activity from blues. While it might not seem like much, what you're experiencing are the initial ripples.

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

New player experience sucks.

We are definitely working on those things. :P Including, but not limited to, such things as Aim, Movement, Matchmaking, New player experiences. These things have been talked about across the forum and are being worked on. As for new features or the specifics on those fixes and the changes that are coming - can't be expressed at the moment but we are at the precipice of making that information known.

We want your feedback on specifics of the game, critical feedback on what is perceived as needing work. This is the stuff that we read and listen to and bring up in meetings. We are also the ones that are working on getting the developers to put into words all the things they are doing specifically, the nitty-gritty stuff that you guys can then dissect - colorfully.

We are changing our emphasis internally and we'll hopefully be telling you about that more in the near future. You may have already noticed some of the effects with more forum activity from blues. While it might not seem like much, what you're experiencing are the initial ripples.

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

WTB Threads in 'Feedback & Requests' started by Developers relevant to the topic about larger upcoming changes. You know, like we have on EVE-O with most of the stuff Team Five-Oh does (Fozzie/Rise/Ytterbium w/ ship balancing).

The CPM isn't the most adequate sounding board for everything; they're great for things you can't talk to the rest of us about, because we might riot over it. But at the same time, the CPM shouldn't be the only sounding board, there are just not enough of them, and their "closeness" to CCP (don't get me wrong, that's a good and necessary thing for discussing NDA material) can lead to certain things being overlooked.

For things we know are in the pipe, such as those you just mentioned, please please please ask the relevant devs to take a little time out of their busy days to keep us posted about the specific changes they're making.

Most of us don't like being in the dark.

If it "sucks", then that would explain why they are working on, it?

Let me think this one over.

I have been here since close beta.

-We are playing the same exact map with only small variations for the past year. Oh hey a new building.

-Tanks sucked. Tanks were OP. Tanks sucked. Tanks were OP.

-We were promised total warfare with vehicles. We just finally got assault dropships (even tho we saw awesome jets flying). As well as MCC piloting.

-Oh those new suits? Nope.

-Oh hai. Laser guns. Nerfed to oblivion.

-Oh you paid real money for those suits that doesnt require any skills? Let me put them at a stupid requirement to get them. Oh hey guess what, you can rebuy them, in the 100$ merc pack.

-Oh hai guys, we have so many good ideas!!! No updates.

-You liked this build? Let me release the game with more glitches than there has ever been since closed beta. Oh oops. Sorry. Sucks to be you. Let me put an apology here.

CCP, I spent about 200$ with you guys in hoping things would get better. PS4 has been announced, playstation + will be required to play online, there is no news from you about future consoles. Hell, you dont even do good deals for your paid transactions.

You are introducing and re-introducing elements that us beta players as a community told you was straight up stupid (contact grenades is a big one). So now saying you have people in place to be better listening to the community sounds like a big joke to me.

You have no timeline, except *Soon* and in today's fast paced world, it is not enough.

I still check the forums, in hope to see an update (seriously been a month since launch and we are still barely getting nuggets), because there is a small part of me that hopes that it will someday work.

Your version is great. Your timeline and most likely way of doing things arent.

Dat is all.

Really? In a lot of companies there would have been a new management team put in if the whole thing not shut down based on how the last year has gone. The only reason this game hasn't been shitcanned is the trickle of money coming in as well as the war chest of money CCP made off of eve to subsidize this until it becomes a good source of income on it's own.

For example, I used to oversee development of high frequency trading software for a trading firm in the US. I can assure you, if any dev team I worked with served up a Dust like product we'd have moved on quite quickly. Maybe we'd have stuck in there for a bit, but not for 14 months of these shenanigans. But- that's trading software, not a video game

Dam it. Would it be so hard to say honestly something like that: "we got 30 ppl and therefore we will prioritize problem list. For the next two weeks we will be working to improve AIM because accourding to your feedback this is the single most annoying problem to you and and is feasible for us to fix"

This is what ppl expect from you. Not: "we are working hard to fix things"

This is honestly what we are asking for, not inhuman work pace, but just realistic and transparent goals and suh to keep us up to date and feel like they are actually accomplishing things. The weekly community updates thread lasted for a month or two sporadically but then they just quit. *snort* yeah, good job on making it weekly.

In all honesty where should they begin?

Sooooo many broken parts to this game and sooooo few knowledgeable persons to fix em.

Lets face it, do you think Miss Buttercup is fixing anything, LOL.

Do not even get me started on Mr. "I like to play the name change game instead of work on this game", FoxFour.

We are definitely working on those things. :P Including, but not limited to, such things as Aim, Movement, Matchmaking, New player experiences. These things have been talked about across the forum and are being worked on. As for new features or the specifics on those fixes and the changes that are coming - can't be expressed at the moment but we are at the precipice of making that information known.

We want your feedback on specifics of the game, critical feedback on what is perceived as needing work. This is the stuff that we read and listen to and bring up in meetings. We are also the ones that are working on getting the developers to put into words all the things they are doing specifically, the nitty-gritty stuff that you guys can then dissect - colorfully.

We are changing our emphasis internally and we'll hopefully be telling you about that more in the near future. You may have already noticed some of the effects with more forum activity from blues. While it might not seem like much, what you're experiencing are the initial ripples.

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CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

Especially after that E3 trailer that just got posted.

This is so true! I am a business owner and I can tell you that if any of my people created a product like this they would all be gone because at the end of the day I would be out of business eventually.

CCP has to be feeling the heat on this project. From a business side it looks like a huge failure right now. They have been working on DUST for years and this is as far as they have gotten? Time, effort, resources, etc...for this? Wow...

its an awfully large investment... but the game has great potential. i could end up being one of the single greatest MMOs, if it had better core play. if they could master this version, they could create a version for the PS4 with better graphics, but keeping the same core mechanics and strengthening ideas down the road.

CCP learn a lesson from CoD, they f***ed up alot, but every 2-3weeks they were updating something and balancing things. giving as many things as possible a slight buff, or slight nerf until everything was sorta balanced out. patch notes were always released the week before the update.


also, the PS$ is supposed to be backwards compatible upto PS2 games. so you should be able to play DUST 514 on your PS4

Especially after that E3 trailer that just got posted.

well since this is the thread being used for highlighting obvious roadblocks in/to the game.......

last night (in the Sony presentation at E3) i witnessed a MMFPS where the graphics were crisp, team play seemed engaging and fun, there seemed to be a narrative/objective that the players were working towards, and there was a seamless, even organic integration into a large playable 'public' event. it was everything i had hoped to see, and it was breathtaking that it could be done and presented in such a manner.

here in lies your issue CCP. and i know you guys are smart enough to know that this could be THE problem for Dust. a timer just started counting down, and if the spring of 2014 comes along and Dust 514 is not as polished and playable as what i described above, then i think you will be up a very smelly creek, without a paddle.

i believe that you can build a good game, but whether you can do that in 7-9 months.... i'm not so sure.
if you can, then you control your future, if not..... then that 'Destiny' will be in our hands.

This is so true! I am a business owner and I can tell you that if any of my people created a product like this they would all be gone because at the end of the day I would be out of business eventually.

CCP has to be feeling the heat on this project. From a business side it looks like a huge failure right now. They have been working on DUST for years and this is as far as they have gotten? Time, effort, resources, etc...for this? Wow...

I, too, think CCP and their dust project has a lot of promise. I've played a lot, contributed money, etc.

But let's not split hairs, nor sugar coat a few obvious issues that have arisen since the uprising release. It's become kind of glaring that the devs of dust have some very bizarre priorities, and they lack attention to detail. It seems like problems that would arise from a group of developers all doing their own thing and combining their work in a big mash up resulting in an unharmonious product.

I guess they will eventually arrive at their destination as to where they want this product to be. I have no doubt about that, really. They have a lot of time, and can ultimately do really good damage control once they have a good product. But there have been so many missteps recently, and let's be blunt. Uprising added a little bit of cosmetic changes and very small content updates. However, it added nothing to the foundation, which is as of yet, still quite broken.


They don't need yes man cheer leading right now. They need blunt honest assessments that are productive, intelligent, and nudging. We can pat their backs AFTER they accomplish something, not before. We are all adults here. You aren't guaranteed success. I think they've had enough wake up calls to hopefully realize they are apparently struggling, and need to make some proactive changes that will get them back on their feet.

I mean, does anyone think they are in control right now? It seems like a firefighting fest, and we are all trapped in their burning building. We need a refreshing water hose of bug fixes and content all over us with force. 8 months from now is not going to cut it.

Oh my God. If I had a nickel for every time some neck beard wearing, basement dwelling, part-time CEO business finance major wanted to tell some computer game company ALL ABOUT making frickin' computer games....

What ever. I thank goodness that I do not have to respond to all of these arm-chair quarterback style business management posts in a professional manner like CCP. I would probably hire some popular Internet personality filled with smiles and glee just to avoid it.

Do you people berate every gas station owner and WalMart checkout clerk about how they run thier business too?

Just being a customer of a company does not give you any expectation that your rage induced whine posts (cleverly disguised as business savvy) should be well received or acted upon by people running that business.

Yah, yah....free Internet forum is free. Post your hate and delusioned solutions for all of CCPs shortcomings. I do honestly hope you feel better.

I actually do feel better telling you how I feel. Maybe that's the point

Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O

Had to go on the EVE forums to figure out why DUST was down.. A player was nice enough to post a link for you guys. Can i have a job? ;-)