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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
49
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:17:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote: Walk down to marketing, and smack them upside the head. "Information control" is killing the game, not building suspense. If any department should get the brunt of the hate, it's them.
Should you near basement access while enroute to Marketing, kindly holler down the stairs and wake the Scout Department.
- Shotty GoBang |
howard sanchez
DUST University Ivy League
533
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:19:00 -
[32] - Quote
StubbyDucky wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts? Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O So in other words I should put in my application to work for CCP as a designer because lets face it, an 10 year old can design a better FPS game than this garbage. BTW just in case you have not heard PC is Fu*ked up, how about starting from scratch and design something better. Are you a ten year old, Mr Stubbyducky? Is that your stated qualification for your verbal application to be a part of ccp's team? The fact that you act 10 and spew unconstructive crap at a gaming development staff on the Internet may or may not get you the position you are seeking.
You certainly don't have to take my advice regarding job seeking strategies but here it is (& not just for you but for all of us that continue to lose our patience and post mean unconstructive stuff to a team who are trying very hard to build something successful):
Relax.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Yes, dust has been in development for years. It takes years to build things like this.
If you are certain you can do it better, go do it
If you are sure this game sucks and is going no where, why are you still here?
If the answer is the potential, then try to post constructively. Make a positive impact. Not a negative one.
Believe me, I know the frustration. Been here a long while myself. Felt the pain from lack of info and clarity on ccp's part. But I want to be a voice of patience and reason amidst the rising din.
Change is not just coming soon...it has been happening all along.
Harden Up. Stand fast. Advise CCP of your feedback in a reasonable, informative and positive tone. Stop being mean....doesn't work. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
49
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:23:00 -
[33] - Quote
Evil-Stuffed-Animal wrote:
Am I right? Or am I right? lol
Hi Animal,
From adding content to responding to tears in the forums, you must admit that CCP is both responsive and productive when compared to other game studios.
- Shotty |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
173
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:31:00 -
[34] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:Sampson David wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:
.....meh/ stuff....
Where's our PS4 announcement? Saying it's on the road map isn't good enough any more. It's not on the roadmap. Not being bitter, just stating what I know. If they are it's so hidden the people working on it are not the people who made the game we have so far.
above is the most interesting bit of info in this thread - and possibly that i have read on the forum in a long time. Noc, is this from IRC? |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
341
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:33:00 -
[35] - Quote
I just hope CCP understands this isn't hate. We love this game and want it to succeed.
We've got too much time invested in this to walk away so soon.
I appreciate an update, even if it doesn't have a lot of teeth to it.
I run a small business and even when I'm getting my teeth kicked in and behind schedule I try to communicate with my customers. It sucks, because they usually don't have anything nice to say in response, but in the end it's better than going into a shell.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1889
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:34:00 -
[36] - Quote
xAckie wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Sampson David wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:
.....meh/ stuff....
Where's our PS4 announcement? Saying it's on the road map isn't good enough any more. It's not on the roadmap. Not being bitter, just stating what I know. If they are it's so hidden the people working on it are not the people who made the game we have so far. above is the most interesting bit of info in this thread - and possibly that i have read on the forum in a long time. Noc, is this from IRC?
Verified in multiple ways, none of which were CCP devblogs of course. I will say the CPM is not my ONLY source on this. |
Sorry Wrong Chat
Phantom Universe Task Force Orion Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:36:00 -
[37] - Quote
howard sanchez wrote: Are you a ten year old, Mr Stubbyducky? Is that your stated qualification for your verbal application to be a part of ccp's team? The fact that you act 10 and spew unconstructive crap at a gaming development staff on the Internet may or may not get you the position you are seeking.
You certainly don't have to take my advice regarding job seeking strategies but here it is (& not just for you but for all of us that continue to lose our patience and post mean unconstructive stuff to a team who are trying very hard to build something successful):
Relax.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Yes, dust has been in development for years. It takes years to build things like this.
If you are certain you can do it better, go do it
If you are sure this game sucks and is going no where, why are you still here?
If the answer is the potential, then try to post constructively. Make a positive impact. Not a negative one.
Believe me, I know the frustration. Been here a long while myself. Felt the pain from lack of info and clarity on ccp's part. But I want to be a voice of patience and reason amidst the rising din.
Change is not just coming soon...it has been happening all along.
Harden Up. Stand fast. Advise CCP of your feedback in a reasonable, informative and positive tone. Stop being mean....doesn't work.
I second that |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
34
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:38:00 -
[38] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:Evil-Stuffed-Animal wrote:
Am I right? Or am I right? lol
Hi Animal, From adding content to responding to tears in the forums, you must admit that CCP is both responsive and productive when compared to other game studios. - Shotty Maybe so but ... no pressure, no diamonds. :)
Plus, I'd like them to be honest about what it is they do so I may know to which direction to direct my digital frust-anger. >:() <--- angry face |
The legend345
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:39:00 -
[39] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:Absolutely, the plan is to internally have a much better system so we can get the proper information out and communicated to you. That's what we are working on atm here in Dust Community :)
Rebuilding the bridge! Hopefully you like it! Maybe you're gonna rather we stop telling you things again. I kid, I kid.
As for generating actual fixes - that is also going as fast as possible. We may or may not be trapping our devs at their computers to work their magic. :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Is it just me or do you guys gag when you read these useless posts. Give me information! |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:40:00 -
[40] - Quote
Relax guys. Either play or don't play. I play and take breaks and I'm constantly thinking about this game and how I can improve my tactics as a scout/sniper; I also throw in some requests that would enhance the game just a tad.
It's a slow process. Here's a question: How can the game be more fun? |
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The legend345
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:41:00 -
[41] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:InsidiousN wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts? Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O So, very simply, please post exactly when the next update is expected to be released, and what that update will fix. Thank you So you can continue to ***** like a two year old if they don't get through everything they posted? GTFO. We all want a better Dust, but that doesn't give you the right to act like an entitled toddler who misses sucking on his mom's teet. Grow up, and act like an adult. They are working on it. It means more to them than to you. Actually we are entitled consumers, and im slowly getting more and more concerned about the cash I put into the game. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1890
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:43:00 -
[42] - Quote
How are you not banned?! |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
34
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:44:00 -
[43] - Quote
howard sanchez wrote: Are you a ten year old, Mr Stubbyducky? Is that your stated qualification for your verbal application to be a part of ccp's team? The fact that you act 10 and spew unconstructive crap at a gaming development staff on the Internet may or may not get you the position you are seeking.
You certainly don't have to take my advice regarding job seeking strategies but here it is (& not just for you but for all of us that continue to lose our patience and post mean unconstructive stuff to a team who are trying very hard to build something successful):
Relax.
Rome wasn't built in a day. Yes, dust has been in development for years. It takes years to build things like this.
If you are certain you can do it better, go do it
If you are sure this game sucks and is going no where, why are you still here?
If the answer is the potential, then try to post constructively. Make a positive impact. Not a negative one.
Believe me, I know the frustration. Been here a long while myself. Felt the pain from lack of info and clarity on ccp's part. But I want to be a voice of patience and reason amidst the rising din.
Change is not just coming soon...it has been happening all along.
Harden Up. Stand fast. Advise CCP of your feedback in a reasonable, informative and positive tone. Stop being mean....doesn't work.
You're either an employee or a push-over. How could you compare the development of a videogame to a city? lulz |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
34
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:46:00 -
[44] - Quote
Niuvo wrote:Relax guys. Either play or don't play. I play and take breaks and I'm constantly thinking about this game and how I can improve my tactics as a scout/sniper; Nuff said son. lmao |
The legend345
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:48:00 -
[45] - Quote
I don't know LOL |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3589
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:48:00 -
[46] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:As for lip-service,
Define, "lip service"
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InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
57
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:02:00 -
[47] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:InsidiousN wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts? Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O So, very simply, please post exactly when the next update is expected to be released, and what that update will fix. Thank you So you can continue to ***** like a two year old if they don't get through everything they posted? GTFO. We all want a better Dust, but that doesn't give you the right to act like an entitled toddler who misses sucking on his mom's teet. Grow up, and act like an adult. They are working on it. It means more to them than to you.
This is what you choose to respond to? I've stated a very simple and straight forward, yet very important request. You are the reason why we cannot have constructive criticism, you just yell for the sake of yelling with no meaning or purpose.
It is incredibly important that we as a community know exactly what CCP is working on and planning to change in the game. CCP has wasted far too much time fixing things that aren't broken and consequently breaking more things by implementing "hotfixes". For example when CCP tells us they are implementing a hotfix to give LAVs far more health it would've been very apparent to anyone who plays this game more than 10 hours a week that it would create Murder Taxi 514-which is what we have now.
Another example, when CCP first tried to implement Active Omega SP Boosters my first question was how would they interact with boosters that were already active- would they supersede them, replace them, buff them? CCP did not see this issue until release day, and hence had to cancel Active Omega Boosters- thus wasting time- time that could've been saved if they allowed the community to know about their plan, and time that could've been spent fixing much more important things, such as aiming, hit detection, and lag.
So, CCP the reason we need to know what your plans are is so that we can tell you about the collateral damage your hotfixes will cause before you waste time creating them. Furthermore, you waste even more time fixing those unforeseen consequences even though those consequences would be very obvious to the player base and would've been easily avoided if you had just been more straightforward.
We know you have 8 million ideas that you hope to implement in the future- and that's the problem, you are not focused on what you need to be focused on, you're not focused on the most important game-breaking issues. Let the player base know what you are working on in the next update- which will probably be too many things at once- and we will focus you in on the important features and let you know how to implement them most effectively. |
Peter Hanther
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
45
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:51:00 -
[48] - Quote
J Lav wrote:UPDATE: We intend to give updates...
We've never heard that before...
More terrible blue posts.
people keep acting like CCP is not ever going to provide updates so apparently people forget |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
339
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:06:00 -
[49] - Quote
STYLIE77 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Thanks Mint, we appreciate you doing what you can.
HOLY ******* ****!!!!
ITS STYLIE!!!!! |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
50
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:11:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Relax guys. Either play or don't play. I play and take breaks and I'm constantly thinking about this game and how I can improve my tactics as a scout/sniper; I also throw in some requests that would enhance the game just a tad.
It's a slow process. Here's a question: How can the game be more fun?
Dinosaurs.
Reptilian beasts both big and small, lurking in the redline, seeking to snack on campy snipers.
More fun for everyone .
- Shotty GoBang |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
642
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:17:00 -
[51] - Quote
InsidiousN wrote:Buster Friently wrote:InsidiousN wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts? Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O So, very simply, please post exactly when the next update is expected to be released, and what that update will fix. Thank you So you can continue to ***** like a two year old if they don't get through everything they posted? GTFO. We all want a better Dust, but that doesn't give you the right to act like an entitled toddler who misses sucking on his mom's teet. Grow up, and act like an adult. They are working on it. It means more to them than to you. This is what you choose to respond to? I've stated a very simple and straight forward, yet very important request. You are the reason why we cannot have constructive criticism, you just yell for the sake of yelling with no meaning or purpose. It is incredibly important that we as a community know exactly what CCP is working on and planning to change in the game. CCP has wasted far too much time fixing things that aren't broken and consequently breaking more things by implementing "hotfixes". For example when CCP tells us they are implementing a hotfix to give LAVs far more health it would've been very apparent to anyone who plays this game more than 10 hours a week that it would create Murder Taxi 514-which is what we have now. Another example, when CCP first tried to implement Active Omega SP Boosters my first question was how would they interact with boosters that were already active- would they supersede them, replace them, buff them? CCP did not see this issue until release day, and hence had to cancel Active Omega Boosters- thus wasting time- time that could've been saved if they allowed the community to know about their plan, and time that could've been spent fixing much more important things, such as aiming, hit detection, and lag. So, CCP the reason we need to know what your plans are is so that we can tell you about the collateral damage your hotfixes will cause before you waste time creating them. Furthermore, you waste even more time fixing those unforeseen consequences even though those consequences would be very obvious to the player base and would've been easily avoided if you had just been more straightforward. We know you have 8 million ideas that you hope to implement in the future- and that's the problem, you are not focused on what you need to be focused on, you're not focused on the most important game-breaking issues. Let the player base know what you are working on in the next update- which will probably be too many things at once- and we will focus you in on the important features and let you know how to implement them most effectively.
Everyone wants a better Dust. We all want better communication. We all want more. This does not justify you being a **** to people, nor does it justify your rants.
You aren't that important. Your ideas aren't that important. Nothing, I repeat, nothing about this game or it's development is "incredibly important". Tone the rhetoric and shrillness, as well as rudeness, down and you will get better results.
CCP is not stupid. You aren't smarter than them. You can help make Dust better, but a large dose of humility is in order for many on these forums.
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Salt2131
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:23:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
Just tell the truth and say your too busy monetizing the game and you have no time for insignificant things like gameplay |
BLKDG
ROYAL SQUAD Shadow of the Apocalypse
2
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
So is it possible to block unconstructive rants on the forums?
Also dust isn't linux nor is it open source, so understand that there has to be a plan in place that organizes various departments. This plan can sometimes be a beast and yet ccp keeps rollin. Stuff doesn't happen overnight. In regards to the mechanic, ie aiming issues, look in the forum posts cause the devs care and are also getting great feed back (that includes details and videos). For the qqers try to do the same.
Cheers |
Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts? Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O
Can you design a vehicle delivery system that does not spawn vehicles into my 1.5 million ISK vehicles? RDV's colliding with dropships is a joke. Do you ever intend to fix this or will it plague dust till the day I quit?
edit: Quit - or have to quit because I lose all my ISK to it. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
391
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
Salt2131 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Just tell the truth and say your too busy monetizing the game and you have no time for insignificant things like gameplay Oh look, another **** talking alt.
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Salt2131
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:31:00 -
[56] - Quote
Malkai Inos wrote:Salt2131 wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Just tell the truth and say your too busy monetizing the game and you have no time for insignificant things like gameplay Oh look, another **** talking alt.
You cant handle the truth... |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
368
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:44:00 -
[57] - Quote
I, too, think CCP and their dust project has a lot of promise. I've played a lot, contributed money, etc.
But let's not split hairs, nor sugar coat a few obvious issues that have arisen since the uprising release. It's become kind of glaring that the devs of dust have some very bizarre priorities, and they lack attention to detail. It seems like problems that would arise from a group of developers all doing their own thing and combining their work in a big mash up resulting in an unharmonious product.
I guess they will eventually arrive at their destination as to where they want this product to be. I have no doubt about that, really. They have a lot of time, and can ultimately do really good damage control once they have a good product. But there have been so many missteps recently, and let's be blunt. Uprising added a little bit of cosmetic changes and very small content updates. However, it added nothing to the foundation, which is as of yet, still quite broken.
They don't need yes man cheer leading right now. They need blunt honest assessments that are productive, intelligent, and nudging. We can pat their backs AFTER they accomplish something, not before. We are all adults here. You aren't guaranteed success. I think they've had enough wake up calls to hopefully realize they are apparently struggling, and need to make some proactive changes that will get them back on their feet.
I mean, does anyone think they are in control right now? It seems like a firefighting fest, and we are all trapped in their burning building. We need a refreshing water hose of bug fixes and content all over us with force. 8 months from now is not going to cut it. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
544
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
I submited my job ap to ccp.... I requested my name be
Ccp Dr. Fingerbottom
Trust me I'm a doctor. |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
14
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:59:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Mintchip wrote:Pretty much! We are working very hard to get you the fixes out. If we could fix it instantaneously we would! Letting you know that we are working on those things, and to look forward to hearing more about the changes and fixes in the upcoming days. :D
As for lip-service, hmm. I'm typing this :P
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I understand your job is to plaster blue tags everywhere, but would it really hurt to put real information instead of well wishes in those posts? Pretty sure that's all I do... and my job is to actually design stuff. O_O
In other words: Dust players are doomed... |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:05:00 -
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So many rude people. Not even clever or stylish rude, just a bunch of rude a$$holes. How many posters who want to completely trash talk representatives think that does ANYTHING meaningful. If anything I'm sure the people reading the thread on CCP's end are like, " !*#% these people, no more posts for you bunch of wankers." |
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