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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.15 21:41:00 -
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I vote for the World Only God Knows. Is it fair to call it a harem show? I'd argue no...
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.15 21:46:00 -
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Kail Mako wrote:You should do top X anime that desperately need another season. Here's an incomplete list from me:
1: A Certain Magical Index 2: Engaged to the Unidentified 3: Saki 4: Love, Chuunibyou, and Other Delusions 5: Non Non Biyori
Ones that I personally want to see: 1. Is It Wrong to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? 2. Aesthetica of a Rouge Hero 3. Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.15 22:50:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:I vote for the World Only God Knows. Is it fair to call it a harem show? I'd argue no... It is fair, because of season 3 revealing they could still know about him and just have there memories locked away.
If not for that season the debate would of gone on for me.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.15 22:51:00 -
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Welcome to a SoTa PoP review of Aldnoah Zero!
When I first started Aldnoah Zero when it was coming out I was pretty excited, Urobochi isnGÇÖt a god or anything, but as a director, he makes good shows with great twists. So when I found out he was on this project directing episode 1 - I grabbed the popcorn, and went in expecting the unexpected. Problem is, he only directed one episode, and he had no real say on character design. Leading to a strong beginning, and a lackluster middle and ending. Which ultimately made me drop the show 3 episodes in, running for my life beginning for logic to take me and never let go. But I recently picked it back up, so letGÇÖs talk about this beautiful train wreck.
Aldnoah delivers an interesting experience, coupled with layers upon layers of bullshit. The setting is completely reliant on you believing everyone in this universe is brain dead. That Earth didnGÇÖt mind Vers taking all the technology for itself while being cool with sending it supplies, that Vers feels superior on a very basic principle because they stole someone elseGÇÖs technology. ThereGÇÖs so many dumb elements that needed fleshing out to make sense, but It takes very little time outside of the action to flesh out the cast or anything, you will never know anything about them or then because then you wonGÇÖt see how pretty this mech looks, or this one, or this one! But even bullshit can smell good for a second when sprayed with enough Febreeze. And thatGÇÖs what Aldnoah does, it delivers a half assed plot, backed by a cast that range from cliche to the core, to a walking corpse to an annoying loli. Then covers it in beautiful CG feebre- I mean mech battles.
After episode 1 leaves you both confused and a little excited to see more, you quickly come to your senses as episode 2 and 3 focusGÇÖs more on how shiny the mechs look being slaughtered like ******** sheep. Earths obviously much inferior technology stands no chance to even causing harm to Vers KataphraktGÇÖs. Often times they only send 1 mech vs entire armies, showing the Vers trolling earth forces before slaughtering them, lol scrubs.
But a high school kid and his friends using a trainee mech defeats not one, not two, but 3 or 4 of these things. lmao. The MC behind it all is basically the Bill-Nye of mech battles, making up for his suits uselessness with science!
But even that eventually starts to grind, as the show continuously shows fully trained soldiers fighting with superior gear - getting slaughtered as they stand perfectly still in shoot. Someone should of told these guys to play Call of Duty to get good.
And thatGÇÖs what makes our MC so special in combat! He moves! And once in a while uses science to find a solution then capitalize on it. ItGÇÖs a rinse and repeat formula that Power Rangers would of been proud of. And itGÇÖs not really all that bad, the science part, anyways, everything else is visually beautiful, but numbingly stupid.
Here's a sample of how the script is going to look. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.15 22:58:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Kail Mako wrote:You should do top X anime that desperately need another season. Here's an incomplete list from me:
1: A Certain Magical Index 2: Engaged to the Unidentified 3: Saki 4: Love, Chuunibyou, and Other Delusions 5: Non Non Biyori Ones that I personally want to see: 1. Is It Wrong to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? 2. Aesthetica of a Rouge Hero 3. Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance your first and third choice are getting more seasons. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 03:07:00 -
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Here's how the review is looking so far! |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 08:15:00 -
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How many mech shows have you seen that enlists the aid of a bunch of high school kids, royalty, a PTSD suffering soldier, a terrorist, a giant floating ship, and the need to run for your life? What, all of them? No, itGÇÖs just half of the mech shows! Aldnoah is completely original, I mean, come on! Look at thatGǪ uh, CG! IsnGÇÖt it beautiful? And that plot that uh, exists, and does stuff, sorta? Okay **** it, this show had nothing going for it other then itGÇÖs first episode was directed by Urobochi. And it knows itGÇÖs bad by how much time and energy they put into pointless scenes and action that does nothing to help the show!
When I first started Aldnoah Zero when it was coming out I was pretty excited, Urobochi isnGÇÖt a god or anything, but he makes good shows with great twists. So when I found out he was on this project directing episode 1 - I grabbed the popcorn, and went in expecting the unexpected. Problem is, he only directed one episode. Leading to a strong beginning, and a lackluster middle and ending. Which may or may not of been the reason that made me drop the show 3 episodes in, running for my life beginning for logic to take me and never let go. But I recently picked it back up, so letGÇÖs talk about this beautiful train wreck.
The show is about a bunch colonist, who in a single generation after discovering alien technology, went from being just normal people, to self-god-worshipping aristocratic assholes whose society seems based on who can throw the biggest stick at each other and win. The scarcity of resources apparently has made life outside of earth harsh where the strongest survive, and has left the Versians, or Martians, or whatever you want to call them, feeling bitter towards Earths vast resources. Which kind of makes you wonder how they founded an Empire that is barely self sustaining to begin with, but we donGÇÖt need to find more holes then there already is. They invade earth through a Warpgate that connected them to Earth, and end up destroying it, stranding there forces there, and sending parts of the moon hurdling towards Earth.
And this is where the holes start popping up, almost 2 minutes into the story. When America was hit with 2 airplanes on 9/11, a whole area of nations was basically bombed and invaded. That was 2001. This show states in 1999, Vers attacks earth stationed forces, the battle ends up destroying our moon and devastating our planet in many ways - and we want peace.
I kinda just want to know if the writer was drunk, or having a bad day, or anything to explain this lazy level of writing. If youGÇÖre going to base your show on real world setting and alter it then you need to make the reactions and results reasonable. Take the Princess assassination for instance - she was somewhere safe, and whoever set the convoy up to arrange the meeting should of been made aware, so how come when her double was killed no one just simply phoned up the big boys and let GÇÿem know itGÇÖs all cool? We donGÇÖt even know if anyone else knew of the double, the Versians are capable of bending light so they could of just made the switch trying to keep an image, but that goes against what the Princess is trying to accomplish, so why was a double sent in the first place and not postponed till she felt better to meet others and journey through the city?. Or how about the fact we launched communication satellites into space where our possibly insane warlord enemies are chilling at, who only just 15 years ago tried to invade us and only stopped because of a really, really, big boom.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 08:16:00 -
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Aldnoah delivers an interesting experience, coupled with layers upon layers of bad writing. But that doesnGÇÖt mean I hated the watch, it was just a lot more painful then it should of been. I just donGÇÖt believe this show was fully understood by the staff behind it, otherwise I canGÇÖt explain why the story is so set on giving us no details. Very few of the cast were fleshed out, the supposed MCGÇÖs of the show are closer to plot tools to move the story forward.
Inohano is a shell of a character, I donGÇÖt even know how the writers reasoned it out to themselves that this character was acceptable as the figure-head to your show. ItGÇÖs like watching an RPG turned anime with how cold, calculating, and lack of personality he has, and it only makes matters worse that all the enemy mechs are designed like end game bosses, adding into the feeling that IGÇÖm not watching the show I should of been. Some of there designs donGÇÖt even seem to have military practical use, theyGÇÖre just cliched type final bosses with 1 niche trick, wether it be a force field, rocket punch, or a jedi sword. And seeing how a bunch of kids kept tripping them up to defeat them, it was obviously very badly designed.
Slaine is almost our MCGÇÖs bi-polar opposite, loaded with emotions, background, drama, he basically pushes the political side of the story forward and keeps the story coherent by connecting the plots between the MC and the villain, enabling what little flesh we got out of this story. But whatever enjoyment you could of gotten out of him is quickly smacked, over and over again, with a whip, then given explanations of Vers, stuff he should of already known having lived with them for so long, and then told to do as he pleases, which amounts to nothing
Oh, there was one point when Slaine goes in to rescue our MC, saves the day, and our genius MC turns his gun on him, says enemy, and basically sends Slaine to hell. **** move. Another instance of lazy writing with how little the thought process was even explained, Slaine SAVED YOU. So you fired at him. Wtf?
Princess Assyelum is the other character that shows growth in the show, similar to Slaine but in contrast to it. Where Slaine is earth turned Martian, Asylum, after having been trapped on earth and pitted with earthlings to survive, decides who her new comrades in arms are and grabs arms to fight with them. Near the end of the show, watching her come to terms with her useless nobility title yet still finding worth as a person, sheGÇÖs almost redeemable.
And then thereGÇÖs the most fleshed out character of them all that the show basically completely forgot existed half way in. Yoichiro Marito, the PTSD suffering veteran who survive the first conflicts with Vers 15 years ago, but Earth in itGÇÖs limitless wisdom, covers up his report and the incident and just pretends it never happens. So he gets treated like lying dirt by his comrades and is stationed to trained high schoolers the art of mecha-combat. ItGÇÖs really a shame they wasted this character, he has everything and more that the high school kids have and theyGÇÖre beating mechs. HeGÇÖs shown heGÇÖs a quick thinker with excellent reflexes, he probably could of been the MC if Aldnoah wasnGÇÖt pandering to a pre-teen crowd.
the other character, our lovely terrorist Rayet Areash, having lost her father in front of her, was an emotional bomb waiting to happen. It was painful watching her in every scene waiting to see how sheGÇÖll turn on everyone around her, and when it finally happened it was a shockingly good moment. Almost the highlight of the show, that quickly gets resolved so we can get back to more pointless plot progressionsGǪ.
The rest of the staff is set up to aid our MC in being a bad ass, and the only one worth mentioning, Yuki, the MCGÇÖs big sister, didnGÇÖt get enough air time, fleshed out story, or much of anything to really give her a part in this review. I only mention her, because to me, she was the best part of the show. I love the cute yet serious military girl she played, and for her alone I may be tempted to watch season 2, nothing else made me want too.
Animation was gorgeous, I hardly need to say more, you can tell this show thought it was going somewhere, or maybe not looking at the writing, I donGÇÖt know, itGÇÖs beautiful, it has a lot of charm, but the issues with the setting and plot and even progression made this a grind to watch. ThereGÇÖs very little to love sometimes.
Oh, besides the soundtrack! AZ boasts an amazing soundtrack, itGÇÖs OP is catchy, I do suggest checking out the full version, because like InuyashaGÇÖs endings, it has a lot more to offer. Voice acting for the sub was, as always, great, cute, and everything in-between. But i gotta give it up to the Dub voice actors, they really tried to breath life into a lifeless cast. Westernizing a show whose writers couldnGÇÖt figure out what was going on must of been tough.
Over-all, I rather enjoyed the watch even with all of itGÇÖs flaws, but would never recommend this to someone I like, maybe season 2 will fix a lot of these issues, who knows, but thereGÇÖs one thing I do know:
This show sucked. and with that, I leave you with my final verdict: PASS! Watch it if you have nothing else to watch or want to see some beautiful CG mech battles. This show will offer little else but frustration, so if you're not here for visuals or music, go the other way. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 08:17:00 -
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And that's my completed script so far. |
Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:35:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Kail Mako wrote:You should do top X anime that desperately need another season. Here's an incomplete list from me:
1: A Certain Magical Index 2: Engaged to the Unidentified 3: Saki 4: Love, Chuunibyou, and Other Delusions 5: Non Non Biyori 6. Spice and Wolf :D This is definitely something i could throw together easily, too. To be fair I chose ones not just based on my personal enjoyment, but also based on how complete I felt they were. For instance, I love Angel Beats, but I think it completed it's story. The only exception to my list is Non Non Biyori, and that's because I love it. Just, so much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iopMdkYSWqY First ten seconds. This might just be the best anime of the season.
Watched the first episode of The Perfect Insider. This one is a keeper. The whole episode has about two separate locations, and it was brilliant. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
Who needs gun game when you have kinetic catalyzers?
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:58:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:I vote for the World Only God Knows. Is it fair to call it a harem show? I'd argue no... It is fair, because of season 3 revealing they could still know about him and just have there memories locked away. If not for that season the debate would of gone on for me.
For me, though, the key point of a harem would be having the MC express an interest/desire in pursuing at least one girl; TWGK only briefly touches upon that fact when he discovers a. that one girl already liked him outside of his "conquest" and b. he recognizes that the lingering feelings inside each girl may lead to trouble down the road. That said, he doesn't really express any interest in establish a relationship in the real world and never seems to truly care about the girls that he woos as part of his conquests.
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.16 11:29:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:And that's my completed script so far. EDIT: Only part I see missing is the talk about the ending, you guys see any points missing?
The main thing that stands out to me is the lack of an overall plot summary to kick things off. For example, I have absolutely no idea what's going on in the show you're reviewing; the basis of your summary should be the assumption that the viewer/listener is unfamiliar with the show and proceed from there. Give us the relevant names/places/etc. (while avoiding spoilers, if possible) and a rough outline of where the show is, what came before it and where the plot is heading. So for a show such as DxD, you'd talk about who Issei is and what his motivations are as an MC. Then you could briefly touch upon the outside forces that have been at work prior to the start of the show (mentioning that angels/demons/monsters/etc. exist and have waged war for countless years) before going into what generally happens over the course of the show (you could say that after Issei's betrayed--to avoid spoilers--he makes a deal with a powerful devil that happens to attend his school and finds himself battling the forces of heaven, hell and all points in between as he seeks to become the Harem King.)
From that point, you can move into a more detailed criticism of how the plot holds up over the course of the show (it's up to you how far you're willing to go into spoiler territory) and then discuss various other topics that you believe are noteworthy (characters/personalities are obviously going to pretty important, animation/music if there is something that stands out, etc.) Be sure to point both the good and bad aspects of the show as you go along and try to cite as many specific examples as possible to support your opinions.
Finally, let your review wrap up with a summary of your main points by pointing the best/worst features of the show before giving your final verdict. Be sure to avoid conflicting statements such as "Over-all, I rather enjoyed the watch..." followed in the next paragraph by "This show sucked."
Try to establish a format and stick with it for a little while before making any necessary tweaks (I still haven't completely settled on my review format) so that it becomes second nature for both you and your audience. This should help in both the script writing process and the actual narration when it comes to the videos.
Also, you should probably look into having an episode format: how many shows do you plan on doing per week/month? Will they be episode commentaries/live watches? New episode reviews? Series reviews? Let your audience know what to expect (for example, Mondays could be a review day for select shows that just aired the previous weekend and series reviews could be on Friday or something.) Hell, you could even do a monthly "viewer mail" show to discuss viewer opinions of why you're right/wrong in your valuation of a show.
Just spit-balling some ideas, here. Hope some of this is helpful!
Edit: Also, I'd try to avoid using profanity if you want to maximize your potential audience; however, if your target audience is older then go with what comes naturally to you and let your personality shine.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:39:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:I vote for the World Only God Knows. Is it fair to call it a harem show? I'd argue no... It is fair, because of season 3 revealing they could still know about him and just have there memories locked away. If not for that season the debate would of gone on for me. For me, though, the key point of a harem would be having the MC express an interest/desire in pursuing at least one girl; TWGK only briefly touches upon that fact when he discovers a. that one girl already liked him outside of his "conquest" and b. he recognizes that the lingering feelings inside each girl may lead to trouble down the road. That said, he doesn't really express any interest in establish a relationship in the real world and never seems to truly care about the girls that he woos as part of his conquests. Not all harems have an obvious pick, remember Shuffle? There's also one about a town filled with Twins that spawned one of my favorite side stories.
There's a few other examples of this being the case, Ladies vs Butlers, etc, where the MC just doesn't care to choose. That's pretty much the same boat with The World Only God Knows, which leads everyone to pick fan favorites and hope it works out - any pick is reasonable because the MC hasn't made any obvious advancements.
That's why, to me, TWOGK is a bit better then other harems. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:47:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:And that's my completed script so far. EDIT: Only part I see missing is the talk about the ending, you guys see any points missing? The main thing that stands out to me is the lack of an overall plot summary to kick things off. For example, I have absolutely no idea what's going on in the show you're reviewing; the basis of your summary should be the assumption that the viewer/listener is unfamiliar with the show and proceed from there. Give us the relevant names/places/etc. (while avoiding spoilers, if possible) and a rough outline of where the show is, what came before it and where the plot is heading. So for a show such as DxD, you'd talk about who Issei is and what his motivations are as an MC. Then you could briefly touch upon the outside forces that have been at work prior to the start of the show (mentioning that angels/demons/monsters/etc. exist and have waged war for countless years) before going into what generally happens over the course of the show (you could say that after Issei's betrayed--to avoid spoilers--he makes a deal with a powerful devil that happens to attend his school and finds himself battling the forces of heaven, hell and all points in between as he seeks to become the Harem King.) From that point, you can move into a more detailed criticism of how the plot holds up over the course of the show (it's up to you how far you're willing to go into spoiler territory) and then discuss various other topics that you believe are noteworthy (characters/personalities are obviously going to pretty important, animation/music if there is something that stands out, etc.) Be sure to point both the good and bad aspects of the show as you go along and try to cite as many specific examples as possible to support your opinions. Finally, let your review wrap up with a summary of your main points by pointing the best/worst features of the show before giving your final verdict. Be sure to avoid conflicting statements such as "Over-all, I rather enjoyed the watch..." followed in the next paragraph by "This show sucked." Try to establish a format and stick with it for a little while before making any necessary tweaks (I still haven't completely settled on my review format) so that it becomes second nature for both you and your audience. This should help in both the script writing process and the actual narration when it comes to the videos. Also, you should probably look into having an episode format: how many shows do you plan on doing per week/month? Will they be episode commentaries/live watches? New episode reviews? Series reviews? Let your audience know what to expect (for example, Mondays could be a review day for select shows that just aired the previous weekend and series reviews could be on Friday or something.) Hell, you could even do a monthly "viewer mail" show to discuss viewer opinions of why you're right/wrong in your valuation of a show. Just spit-balling some ideas, here. Hope some of this is helpful! Edit: Also, I'd try to avoid using profanity if you want to maximize your potential audience; however, if your target audience is older then go with what comes naturally to you and let your personality shine. I'm going to add in a new introduction, keep what's already there, and flesh it out some more. Deleting the last few paragraphs, they don't fit, work, or flow well with the rest of the script.
As for the course language - I can definitely leave it out, but for now I'm going to include them. Once I can do actual animation in my videos I can replace coarse language with cleverer ones.
And it'll be episodic formula, so I probably do need to design a proper "Welcome to the show" kinda thing. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 17:50:00 -
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Kail Mako wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Kail Mako wrote:You should do top X anime that desperately need another season. Here's an incomplete list from me:
1: A Certain Magical Index 2: Engaged to the Unidentified 3: Saki 4: Love, Chuunibyou, and Other Delusions 5: Non Non Biyori 6. Spice and Wolf :D This is definitely something i could throw together easily, too. To be fair I chose ones not just based on my personal enjoyment, but also based on how complete I felt they were. For instance, I love Angel Beats, but I think it completed it's story. The only exception to my list is Non Non Biyori, and that's because I love it. Just, so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iopMdkYSWqY First ten seconds. This might just be the best anime of the season. Watched the first episode of The Perfect Insider. This one is a keeper. The whole episode has about two separate locations, and it was brilliant. I'm looking forward to the next episode. Whoa, didn't expect that, lol.
and I've got a commentary for The Perfect Stranger I'll be posting soon then working on the second episode. It's really a great show with the best OP easily this season. I actually was planning to turn it into a music video but cut the project early. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:27:00 -
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Whoa, I do not remember Ladies vs Butlers have THIS much nudity.
Dub's excellent so far, too.
But, again, ALL THAT PLOT! :O |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:46:00 -
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Everything Dies, Kall Meko, I wanted to thank you two for the help you've guys have given thus far. Since the first script attempt until now you can already see a vast improvement in both quality and entertainment, and it's largely in part of both of you.
I'll have to make a special video for you guys later to show my thanks. |
Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.16 20:05:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Whoa, I do not remember Ladies vs Butlers having THIS much nudity.
Dub's excellent so far, too.
But, again, ALL THAT PLOT! :O
Be sure to watch the specials, then. Lots o' plot!
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.16 20:11:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:I vote for the World Only God Knows. Is it fair to call it a harem show? I'd argue no... It is fair, because of season 3 revealing they could still know about him and just have there memories locked away. If not for that season the debate would of gone on for me. For me, though, the key point of a harem would be having the MC express an interest/desire in pursuing at least one girl; TWGK only briefly touches upon that fact when he discovers a. that one girl already liked him outside of his "conquest" and b. he recognizes that the lingering feelings inside each girl may lead to trouble down the road. That said, he doesn't really express any interest in establish a relationship in the real world and never seems to truly care about the girls that he woos as part of his conquests. Not all harems have an obvious pick, remember Shuffle? There's also one about a town filled with Twins that spawned one of my favorite side stories. There's a few other examples of this being the case, Ladies vs Butlers, etc, where the MC just doesn't care to choose. That's pretty much the same boat with The World Only God Knows, which leads everyone to pick fan favorites and hope it works out - any pick is reasonable because the MC hasn't made any obvious advancements. That's why, to me, TWOGK is a bit better then other harems.
1. Shuffle? He clearly makes a pick in that one (the right one, might I add.) 2. Going by what happens in Ladies vs Butlers, I think it's safe to say that he's made his choice as he doesn't particularly enjoy his date with the other candidate, due to their history together, whereas he does share an intimate moment with the Drill. 3. The problem with TWOGK is that he actively rejects any and all advances made his way, giving no indication that he'd ever pick any of the candidates; that's why I hesitate to call it a harem show as he isn't actively pursuing any one girl, much less a dozen or so. Hell, the whole point of the show is how he prefers virtual girls to the real thing!
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:51:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:I vote for the World Only God Knows. Is it fair to call it a harem show? I'd argue no... It is fair, because of season 3 revealing they could still know about him and just have there memories locked away. If not for that season the debate would of gone on for me. For me, though, the key point of a harem would be having the MC express an interest/desire in pursuing at least one girl; TWGK only briefly touches upon that fact when he discovers a. that one girl already liked him outside of his "conquest" and b. he recognizes that the lingering feelings inside each girl may lead to trouble down the road. That said, he doesn't really express any interest in establish a relationship in the real world and never seems to truly care about the girls that he woos as part of his conquests. Not all harems have an obvious pick, remember Shuffle? There's also one about a town filled with Twins that spawned one of my favorite side stories. There's a few other examples of this being the case, Ladies vs Butlers, etc, where the MC just doesn't care to choose. That's pretty much the same boat with The World Only God Knows, which leads everyone to pick fan favorites and hope it works out - any pick is reasonable because the MC hasn't made any obvious advancements. That's why, to me, TWOGK is a bit better then other harems. 1. Shuffle? He clearly makes a pick in that one (the right one, might I add. ) 2. Going by what happens in Ladies vs Butlers, I think it's safe to say that he's made his choice as he doesn't particularly enjoy his date with the other candidate, due to their history together, whereas he does share an intimate moment with the Drill. 3. The problem with TWOGK is that he actively rejects any and all advances made his way, giving no indication that he'd ever pick any of the candidates; that's why I hesitate to call it a harem show as he isn't actively pursuing any one girl, much less a dozen or so. Hell, the whole point of the show is how he prefers virtual girls to the real thing! You're comparing completed stories to an uncompleted one, The World God Only Knows may end up with him picking, their is more story and it'l likely get animated.
But the other shows, it wasn't clear who the pick was until the last few episodes ending the entire show. When we get near the conclusion to this show that'll likely be what happens here, and if not, you'll win this debate and this show is not a harem by any standards
And i do agree he seems to just not want love in favor of lone wolfing video games, but look at the purple hair girl, rather then showing the MC he's getting involved, they show it in this character instead almost for him. You can almost be assured she'd the winner if you follow the formula of harem.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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I...
am enjoying Ladies vs Butlers way more then I should, lmao.
I love this MC, he's awesome. |
Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Shadowed Cola wrote:I...
am enjoying Ladies vs Butlers way more then I should, lmao.
I love this MC, he's awesome.
I enjoyed it right up until the final two episodes or so, when they try to turn it into a love triangle instead of keeping the focus on the MC and the Drill. I LOATHE the childhood "friend" character as she spends 90% of the show acting maliciously to those around her and the final 10% trying to win over the MC.
Side question: If you've seen I Don't Have Many Friends, what do you make of Sora's relationship with Kodaka? The more I think about it, the less inclined I am to say that she has a romantic interest in him so much as she's suffering from arrested development, and wants their old friendship back (to the exclusion of the others.) I think that's why you see the ending with her leaving and telling everyone not to look for her; she's trying to come to terms with the fact that while all of the other girls accept (and possibly love) Kodaka for who he is, she's still living in the past and clinging to what they used to be. Thoughts?
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:I...
am enjoying Ladies vs Butlers way more then I should, lmao.
I love this MC, he's awesome. I enjoyed it right up until the final two episodes or so, when they try to turn it into a love triangle instead of keeping the focus on the MC and the Drill. I LOATHE the childhood "friend" character as she spends 90% of the show acting maliciously to those around her and the final 10% trying to win over the MC. Side question: If you've seen I Don't Have Many Friends, what do you make of Sora's relationship with Kodaka? The more I think about it, the less inclined I am to say that she has a romantic interest in him so much as she's suffering from arrested development, and wants their old friendship back (to the exclusion of the others.) I think that's why you see the ending with her leaving and telling everyone not to look for her; she's trying to come to terms with the fact that while all of the other girls accept (and possibly love) Kodaka for who he is, she's still living in the past and clinging to what they used to be. Thoughts? :O
I think you're right, actually. She doesn't seem to have a romantically developed interest in him more so then she just wants her friend back. It's everyone but those 2 who thinks of the romance.
I really hate how season 2 ends, she just runs away, where's the ******* rest? :(
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SUBspace overvraper
Planetary Response Organisation
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Has been a busy week. Next week will be even busier. But you know that there is always that little something that cheers you up. After 2 months of waiting, look what I found. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chS0BSDMFVA found .
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ On a break, will be back once i re-flip this table.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.17 05:07:00 -
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Oh nice, the FSN sound track.
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Kail Mako
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Is the Order a Rabbit? officially earns the grand prize for most moe show of all time. The comedy is nice. The setting is relaxing. The girls are sweet, but we all know we watch it for the moe.
Who needs gun game when you have kinetic catalyzers?
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Danielmorales982
RISING P0WER
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Posted - 2015.10.17 18:39:00 -
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Spice and Wolf was pretty good
I hate everyone with a passion.
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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About halfway through with The Irregular at Magic High School. Have pretty much run out of ecchi/harem shows to watch for the time being, so I took a chance and looked at the "most popular" list at kissanime. This was pretty much the first show that wasn't Naruto/Bleach/etc.
Enjoying it so far, so I'll hopefully have a review sometime tomorrow.
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.17 22:40:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Everything Dies wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:I...
am enjoying Ladies vs Butlers way more then I should, lmao.
I love this MC, he's awesome. I enjoyed it right up until the final two episodes or so, when they try to turn it into a love triangle instead of keeping the focus on the MC and the Drill. I LOATHE the childhood "friend" character as she spends 90% of the show acting maliciously to those around her and the final 10% trying to win over the MC. Side question: If you've seen I Don't Have Many Friends, what do you make of Sora's relationship with Kodaka? The more I think about it, the less inclined I am to say that she has a romantic interest in him so much as she's suffering from arrested development, and wants their old friendship back (to the exclusion of the others.) I think that's why you see the ending with her leaving and telling everyone not to look for her; she's trying to come to terms with the fact that while all of the other girls accept (and possibly love) Kodaka for who he is, she's still living in the past and clinging to what they used to be. Thoughts? :O I think you're right, actually. She doesn't seem to have a romantically developed interest in him more so then she just wants her friend back. It's everyone but those 2 who thinks of the romance. I really hate how season 2 ends, she just runs away, where's the ******* rest? :(
Yeah, the season does end rather abruptly...but I'm actually satisfied with Sora's running away; she recognizes her problem and is taking the time to sort out her own feelings (and avoid antagonizing the other members.) I think it's safe to say that she'll return to the club in the future when she allows herself the chance to actually make friends and trust others. Honestly, the show could really use an hour-long OVA or something similar to address Kodaka's confrontation with Rika after she called him out for running away from Sena's confession and the affections of the other members. Unless something major changes, a third season would likely be too much of the "same old same old" with forced drama trying to keep the harem in play whereas a simple episode or two as a prologue could really bring a proper conclusion into better focus (i.e. his ass had better end up with Sena)
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Everything Dies
Momo Deviluke Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.10.17 23:01:00 -
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Re-wind Review:
Strike the Blood
Original score -- 7/10 Updated score -- 5/10
Himeragi is such a wonderful character. Absolutely gorgeous, strong, innocent and wears her heart on her sleeve. Too bad the show makes her so young. The MC is actually entertaining as the "good guy who'd do anything for his friends but honestly just wants to be left alone." His relationship with Himeragi develops quite organically (in part due to her age) though it is interesting to point out the fact that her handlers deliberately put her in such a position, knowing full well that both she and the MC would likely take a romantic interest in each other.
Where the show really struggles is the fact that it falls into all of the genre stereotypes; the additional harem characters are all one-dimensional tropes (tsundere, childhood friend, etc.) and the fact that each additional candidate acts as a Deus Ex Machina to bring out a convenient power in the MC just at the right time. Too much of the show is utilized as a means of servicing the plot (i.e. "let's make something happen") that everything becomes tiredly predictable rather quickly. The real heart of the show (the MC's relationship with others) gets thrown to the side in favor of forced confrontations that exist to draw out more of his power. Could have been a really, really good show...
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