I'm not sure it would be worth it. EVE players only make like100-150 million a month from PI per character, the poco makes a percentage of that. So if the tax is like 10% adn 3 players are making like 150 mill a month, that poco is like 45M a month revenue . Given that it cost us 80M per district I'm not sure the funding would be there. Mostly PI in EVE is a way to make some ISK on the side when you are bored more then an active career.

My math may be off because I don't mess with Pocos in space. I weighed the option and found Carrier belt ratting to be much more profitable.

I'm not sure it would be worth it. EVE players only make like100-150 million a month from PI per character, the poco makes a percentage of that. So if the tax is like 10% adn 3 players are making like 150 mill a month, that poco is like 45M a month revenue . Given that it cost us 80M per district I'm not sure the funding would be there. Mostly PI in EVE is a way to make some ISK on the side when you are bored more then an active career.

My math may be off because I don't mess with Pocos in space. I weighed the option and found Carrier belt ratting to be much more profitable.

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In the end i was able to produce a net income of 17mil per day per char. Or 510 mil a month. That was with the price structure of 2.5 years ago. I guess there has been some inflation going on...

Your Info is wrong ....on nul sec and worm holes you can make a lot more , I personally have a few planet's in a wormhole and believe me with a few characters on them you can make a billion on them in a month.

Also remember your attacking the POCO so there is no additional charges as in a land grab. Your not attacking the planet or any districts on them. If you don't lose to much in clones you can make a nice profit. Its a nice once off money spinner not something you now have to defend either.

POCOs in Dust... No sir just no.

The OP puts forward some really good points but id rather CCP bring in some fresh ideas/mechanics rather than a reskin/rehash of some old models. They currently have this other game out that's doing really well that caters to all your needs currently.

POCOs in Dust... No sir just no.

The OP puts forward some really good points but id rather CCP bring in some fresh ideas/mechanics rather than a reskin/rehash of some old models. They currently have this other game out that's doing really well that caters to all your needs currently.

I weighed the option and found Carrier belt ratting to be much more profitable.

Standby, post incoming. This is taking some time to write. Looking numbers up in DB even. O_O

Hope you are happy.

At least there will be no vehicles to run me over in the POCO or a single tank to stomp everyone, so signed

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:

This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.

It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.

Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.

I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.

Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee.

A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.

Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

So seeing as you have sunken this idea, any word on what true grit is working on now? Aside from the current monitoring of PC in molten Heath.

SoxFour's post is great.
It's depressing that we can't have much content for ages, though...

That's not really true, but at the same time not really what this team does. We take content that the other teams have made (maps, game modes, and such) and create the things like planetary conquest that let you access that content. So when reading things I say keep that in mind. The art and level design guys are always working on new content. :D

Yea 500M a month is a plex and thats pretty awesome, but I can pull like 100M an hour (200M with salvage) just killing stuff in null belts and anoms. I mean I understand that passive gains are awesome beacuse you can have that going on the side and also do something else, but for this then you have to show up for Orbitals, risk your ship because you can be seen in the whole sec, then you have to pay the mercs to defend your Poco.

What I was saying is that people like PI because its really low risk and not expensive to get into. This is going to change that and make it a much less attactive proposition. However I am sure it can be balanced and with the coming Ice Mining nerf in EVE I am sure anything Fuel related will become a gold mine Isk wise.

Iterating on FW, corporations, communication, and the such while we monitor planetary conquest and look at what we want to do there.

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:
-This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.
-It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.
-Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.
-I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.
-Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee. GÇô
-A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.
-Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

Hope this gets noticed.
Reg
Cap

I'm not sure it would be worth it. EVE players only make like100-150 million a month from PI per character, the poco makes a percentage of that. So if the tax is like 10% adn 3 players are making like 150 mill a month, that poco is like 45M a month revenue . Given that it cost us 80M per district I'm not sure the funding would be there. Mostly PI in EVE is a way to make some ISK on the side when you are bored more then an active career.

My math may be off because I don't mess with Pocos in space. I weighed the option and found Carrier belt ratting to be much more profitable.

Yea 500M a month is a plex and thats pretty awesome, but I can pull like 100M an hour (200M with salvage) just killing stuff in null belts and anoms. I mean I understand that passive gains are awesome beacuse you can have that going on the side and also do something else, but for this then you have to show up for Orbitals, risk your ship because you can be seen in the whole sec, then you have to pay the mercs to defend your Poco.

What I was saying is that people like PI because its really low risk and not expensive to get into. This is going to change that and make it a much less attactive proposition. However I am sure it can be balanced and with the coming Ice Mining nerf in EVE I am sure anything Fuel related will become a gold mine Isk wise.

OK, but big block DUST alliances already kind of have planetary conquest.



This is kind of completley counter to your first point isn't it? When the large groups can participate what is to stop them from just rolling the rest?

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... I have to stop you here... OK maybe not stop you, since you already posted everything and I can't really stop you, but this is... well yea wrong.

So I am assuming we are just talking game mechanics here, not implementation challenges. So lets just talk about that for a few minutes. What happens when the POCO is reinforced? Why would EVE players even care if a DUST corp takes it when all they have to do is take it back and the DUST corp can't do anything? HOW does a EVE corp contract DUST players to fight? Especially when we don't have ISK transfer in yet. How do reinforcement timers work? What happens if it is attacked during the battle? Or the EVE corps trade it while the attack is underway? How do existing mechanics like vehicle drops, warbarge strikes, and the like all work? This is just what I thought of in a few minutes, I am sure there are more.

All solvable things sure, but all things that need to be thought of.


This is my biggest... well facepalm moment:
- Viewing where POCOs are
- Viewing a list of your owned POCO
- Changing POCO settings
- In EVE POCOS set TAX based on standings. DUST has no concept of standings.
- A way to view and accept contracts from EVE players. I suppose also a way to issue them.
- A way in EVE to issue contracts to defend/attack POCOS.
- New maps
- New game modes (no MCC inside a POCO)
- New art assets for said map
- Figuring out all the design issues sort of listed above.
- A way in EVE to see fights for POCOs going on
- Probably want some way EVE players can help/influence the fights
- All the QA for all this stuff
- The documentation for community teams
- The automated tests
- more I am sure, I just haven't thought of it
- POCOs for EVE are not done with CREST, CREST is what DUST uses. This means all POCO features probably need to be moved to CREST. That is more development time, more testing, and more stuff.



Noticed it did. As I said at the beginning I don't want to come off as an ass or anything. The bang for buck on this though, when looking at everything else we can do, is really low.

There are still lots of big wins to be had with iterating on facitonal warfare, planetary conquest, corporation management, arena battles, and a plethora of other things.

That being said, this is of course a cool idea. :D

Standby, post incoming. This is taking some time to write. Looking numbers up in DB even. O_O

Hope you are happy.

It doesn't make sense to me that mercs on the ground are attacking the POCO in space. However, if you consider the space elevator is attached to that POCO, that means there is an installation at both ends of the elevator. The POCO in space remains conquerable by Eve pilots and the installation on the ground is conquerable by Dust mercs. Both ends could have different tax settings and owners. CCP could seed Interbus installations on all the planets initially and as merc ownership spreads throughout the galaxy these would be destroyed and replaced with player owned destructible installations.

Why not take that elevator ride up and introduce the pilots to some cqc?

I never understood why we have these floaty canisters called POCOs in EVE when the lore / books were talking about space elevators long before.

Space elevator > space canister.

Mercs on a Titan!

Nugget on a biscuit!

16 Dust mercs rampaging through a space station about the size of a basketball court killing all the customs workers?

+1 to this stuff. Had a great conversation with some Eve guys at Fanfest regarding something like this.

Sure but a POCO is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than a basketball court

Perhaps bigger but not way bigger. Pull a rifter up next to it. It's not that big.

You've not actually flown up to one, have you? A Viator is the size of the light on the top... and that is a small light.

I don't remember them being huge compared to my mammoth but I haven't flown up to one in weeks plus I'm old and my mind is foggy.

Have you played a match of DUST and gotten both teams all around one objective or another close space? Open maps are kind of done for more than big pretty spaces.

Hack null cannons to destroy hostile Customs Office.

That's not really true, but at the same time not really what this team does. We take content that the other teams have made (maps, game modes, and such) and create the things like planetary conquest that let you access that content. So when reading things I say keep that in mind. The art and level design guys are always working on new content. :D

This is my biggest... well facepalm moment:
- Viewing where POCOs are
- Viewing a list of your owned POCO
- In EVE POCOS set TAX based on standings. DUST has no concept of standings.
- A way to view and accept contracts from EVE players. I suppose also a way to issue them.
- A way in EVE to issue contracts to defend/attack POCOS.
- New game modes (no MCC inside a POCO)
- A way in EVE to see fights for POCOs going on
- Probably want some way EVE players can help/influence the fights

Why should a Dust corp have to hand ownership of a space station over when we can just keep it and the tax for ourselves
Let the EVE pilots go hire and ally with other corps to take it over if they dont want to pay that tax

013.05.31 19:41 |

What about making pocos invulnerable again? Then make pocos dust turf. This would integrate the two games even more. WHs would make this a logistical nightmare. Solution, rather than pick up the actual groups of mercs, pilots deliver clone packs. Then the dusties que like its a pc match. And then the winner gets to allow rights to corporations, alliances, and individuals based on standing similar to how null outposts work.

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:
-This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.
-It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.
-Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.
-I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.
-Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee. GÇô
-A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.
-Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

Hope this gets noticed.
Reg
Cap

Your Info is wrong ....on nul sec and worm holes you can make a lot more , I personally have a few planet's in a wormhole and believe me with a few characters on them you can make a billion on them in a month.

Also remember your attacking the POCO so there is no additional charges as in a land grab. Your not attacking the planet or any districts on them. If you don't lose to much in clones you can make a nice profit. Its a nice once off money spinner not something you now have to defend either.

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:
-This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.
-It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.
-Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.
-I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.
-Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee. GÇô
-A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.
-Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

Hope this gets noticed.
Reg
Cap

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:
-This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.
-It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.
-Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.
-I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.
-Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee. GÇô
-A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.
-Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

Hope this gets noticed.
Reg
Cap

I wish it was hard to to figure out which i hate more.

I agree with the OP,but to make things more interesting I suggest the ability to STEAL whats on the POCO.

I know what you're thinking,"That's evil".Yes,it is,but profitable.Just imagine it,EVE players recruiting DUST corps just to be able to raid POCOs for some sweet loot.This could be like another game mode or a side objective when attacking them,A chance to be a pirate.Now looting the POCO would be as simple as locating the cargo hold,hacking the doors open,then simply calling for your EVE pilot to get you...then holding off the other team till he comes,if the attackers fail to hold long enough or are all killed off at the cargo hold,the defenders just lock the doors and wait and see if they try again.Now,IF you hold off long enough the EVE pilot will come to whisk that precious loot away with you on it or without if you want to continue the raid or not...question is will he make it!?Because ships might be guarding the cargo hold...so they have a dogfight so your EVE buddy could bring his own buddies to the fight depending on the situation.Now there could be multiple cargo holds on the POCO and multiple entrances into the POCO,This sort of "pirate raid mode" is like conquest in bf3 but with a time limit,say 20-30 minutes with a clone count OR 1-2 cargo holds with no time limit and a clone count.The cargo holds will have a sort of health bar to show how much they still have in them.The attacking team could lose by not having a ride home,the clone count goes to zero or the timer runs out before they get all of the cargo.If they do win,well,the defenders bodies are littered on the floor,or they get all the cargo out and escape in style while being chased by other ships or the silence of victory as debris floats in space on the ride back.Rewards for the EVE players would be that sweet booty(not that booty,the pirate kind of booty),or the POCO(for a fee),or both.The dust players would get salvage,A LOT OF IT(like say,the chance to get 50 GEK-38s in ONE match,or maybe even some tanks) and also a minimum 250 ISK on victory and also the payment promised by the EVE player.Now with this,POCOs could be guarded by fleets of ships outside,and mercs on the inside.Bodyguarding and Piracy for POCOs would be new job options for both Dust and Eve players.But I don't know much about POCOs aside from what OP said 'cause I'm just a dust merc so...thoughts?

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:
-This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.
-It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.
-Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.
-I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.
-Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee. GÇô
-A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.
-Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

Hope this gets noticed.
Reg
Cap

@ captain africa u are quite wrong in ur post and here is why
1st i do pi so i know what i am talking about now on to why. 1st of all a poco is not a station as no ships may dock at it. 2nd yes u may set a tax rate for the poco u can also set it so the poco can only be accessed by corp or alliance members so no need to even bring in dust players at all. now to why this really fails is bc dust players are only in low or highsec, the best place to do pi is wh or null sec bc u gather more p0 stuff.

@Daedric Lothar ur income is quite low unless u do pi in low sec or something which is a waste. i make about 1.2/1.5 bil a month with for toons in wh space. also u mostly use the barren and temp planets as a production planets u dont gather any pi on the planets so u really cant do much as if i want i could just go to highsec to make p3/p4 stuff. and just a reminder dust players cant go into null or wh space

I LOVE THIS IDEA!!
Please, as soon as you have an own POCO, please please invite your corp and all of your friends inside the POKO, please wear the most expensive gear you have to look really fancy. And please tell us eve players a time and date, so we can come for a ... visit, and try to ignore the battleships, we just want to look fancy as well...

Remember, invite everyone you know, wear the most expensive stuff. Thank you!

I'm not sure it would be worth it. EVE players only make like100-150 million a month from PI per character, the poco makes a percentage of that. So if the tax is like 10% adn 3 players are making like 150 mill a month, that poco is like 45M a month revenue . Given that it cost us 80M per district I'm not sure the funding would be there. Mostly PI in EVE is a way to make some ISK on the side when you are bored more then an active career.

My math may be off because I don't mess with Pocos in space. I weighed the option and found Carrier belt ratting to be much more profitable.

This would be an Expansion worthy addition to both EVE and DUST 514:

- Requires Infantry Drones.
- Requires Infantry Drone Shop and Small Clone Lab be added to POCOGÇÖs
- Add Genolution interface to the POCO interface.
- Add DUST Contract Interface to the POCO interface.
- Add POCO Attack and Defence contracts to the Battle Finder for Directors/CEOGÇÖs.
- Add POCO info to PC map.
- Add CIU launcher and CIU to EVE Market. (Requires art and animation.)
- Add interface for activating CIU and setting up DUST Contract.
- Add new reinforce mechanic. * Leave old shoot and replace mechanic in place for EVE players.
- Add mobile CRU. (Requires art and animation.)
- Add POCO interior map as battleground setting. (All that this involves.)
- Add new battle mode with two control points and long acquisition timers.

Including all the development, testing, and debugging involved, this by itself would be enough work to warrant and expansion.

This suggestion does not include DUST mercs owning POCOGÇÖs in its initial iteration. That would come later.

Things to add in future expansions:
- DUST Corp ability to attack, conquer, and own POCOGÇÖs. Would involve contracting an EVE player to place the CIU.
- Add the ability to purchase turrets for the POCO.
- Add the ability for DUST Mercs to use these turrets to shoot at EVE ships.
- Add standings toward other Corporations to DUST for tax purposes.
- Add ability for EVE player to upgrade drone defenders.
- Add ability for EVE player to control Drone defenders through a tactical interface. (One battle with FPS on one side and RTS on the other.)


This is by no means a complete list of what would be involved. But it would be so cool! I think it is worth the work.

Reinforcing The POCO:

The X Dust Corporation then wait for the timer in the MMC and spawn into a transport ship. The transport ship piloted by an Eve player undocs from the MMC and transports the Mercs to the POCO. A few things regarding this :

a.Since it is in a player owned POCO it will be in shoot able space. During this stage of the operation the Mercs in the transport ship are pretty vulnerable. They could have more Eve pilots protecting them against hostile enemy ships while doing the trip.
b.The Transport Ship docks onto the POCO , the Mercs hack the front gate and enter the installation.

still you should post your ideas here as this thread is frequented by CCP anyway. im pretty sure they heard the community and are working on fixing the aforementioed.

omg, I totally read this in that robot lady's voice, somebody help me

Player Owned Customs Office (POCO) is the answer to many current challenges in Dust .

To Dusties unfamiliar to what a POCO is , it is a space station above a planet , Eve players use this space station as a link to move resources (PI) from the planet into space and then to respective markets . Every planet can have one POCO anchored to it .The owner of this POCO sets a tax rate so everything you move through this space station from the planet you have to pay x amount of tax on the total value of shipment.

Ownership of this little feature can make or break the viability for everyone farming on the planet and is well worth fighting for. In high sec Concord own these stations so its a no go zone but as far as low GÇô sec , nul GÇô sec and wormholes go ..... its player owned.

If Eve players had to start putting contracts out for defending or attacking these POKOS , suddenly there will be a HUGE platform for additional interaction namely:
-This will give the opportunity for the big block Dust alliances to have additional stream of revenue and action.
-It will allow the medium and small Dust Corps to also get involved and make extra ISK.
-Due to the fact that there are so many planets being used for PI there will be more than enough action for everyone.
-I really like the fact that you as an Eve player can have a whole Dust corp on your pay role ...and donGÇÖt have to be a super power to make use of the Dust Corporations.ji
-Its not complicated, the Dust corp attacking the POCO and winning the match takes over the station and hand ownership over to new owner for a fee. GÇô
-A nice change if we could have a map/structure resembling a space station and fighting in it.
-Add additional game play where an Eve pilot have to collect DUST players in a ship from the MCC and deliver them to the POCO ( Its not a long trip ). So there is a chance that the whole squad and Eve pilot can get blown up by other Eve pilots or the defender.

Not that many extra features to be implemented except for an additional map to really make this a reality.

Hope this gets noticed.
Reg
Cap

* An update on POCO Mechanics can be found here :
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=84881&find=unread

* What does Eve players think about Dust 514 targeting their POCOS :
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=243147&find=unread

I made a video expressing the OP's Concerns

Please leave comment if you agree.

Thanks

Our corp lost about 3 bil to change Poco ownership in a wormhole , just another reason for ccp to make this happen....

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Lets do it !

Bump, because we don't talk enough about EVE interaction.

If you want to talk about EVE/DUST interaction can we start a new discussion? This one has kind of run it's course no?

If you want to talk about EVE/DUST interaction can we start a new discussion? This one has kind of run it's course no?

What's the skill multiplier on Thread Necro?

I thought the whole long term idea was for the planets to have to be taken over by a corp using DUST mercs in order to do anything else with it and collect resources from both planet and moons.

If there is anything less planned then the EVE/DUST connection is a joke.

As I stated in another post GÇö there is too much going on in EVE otherwise for DUST to matter unless CCP backpedals and makes planets the only means to gain valuable resources.

Then maybe we'd see fleet battles raging over planets and DUST mercs would matter to EVE.

Planetary interaction is huge in Eve , its more on a individual basis where players harvest and produce resources. Dust is about Mercs so from my point of view where not industrialists. CCP however decided to continue with Planetary conquest and it turned out to be more for the bigger alliances making Mega ISK but excluding the medium and small corps. I knew that PC would be run by big alliances the same way null are run by big Eve coalitions.

The beauty of the POCO idea is that you don't have to produce anything , you just take them over or defend them as a corp or accept a contract from an Eve player. Controlling a POCO gives you the right to set a tax rate , however if you set it to high you run the risk of your farmers packing up and leave. So there needs to be a good balance in order to ensure a long term passive income for the corp that holds a POCO.

Ownership of POCOS should not just be for DUST players , Eve players should also be able to take ownership of POCOS via current Eve game mechanics.

There are so many of these planets each with a POCO that it would kick start most current Dust corporations into having ownership or the opportunity to defend Eve players planetary resources which in return will kick start the Eve Dust link immediately.


All the POCOS have the same space station so CCP only have to develope one MAP that could be used for all POCOS. Sure there would be some major input but what you are getting is what every one wants .....:)


If I was the CCP CEO this would be my first priority .....besides it would be great to war in space , it would bring you so much closer to the new Eden experience ......

No...

LOL and my dear Sir who the **** might you be ?

Tired, and a person with more likes than you