(With recent changes, it seems CCP is listening again. In that case, I will participate again.)

Not much needs to be done with the Tactical.
It's been my weapon of choice since I've dropped the sniper rifle.

Here are points on refining the Tactical:

- I can confirm that modded controllers are NOT an issue for the Tactical AR.
Tested using a "Steel Series 3GC PC Gaming Controller" which, as of Uprising, is fully compatible with Dust514. Turbo function enabled on R1. There was no significant increase to RoF when in ADS, and recoil was severe enough to totally discourage automatic use. However, there was a noticeable increase in RoF when hip-firing. The same applies for modded mouse inputs using a CronusX device... recoil is too high for the mouse to mitigate.

- Clip size and ammo capacity is disproportionately higher than other weapons. Therefore I recommend keeping the clip size for both Tactical assault rifles at 24 rounds, and cutting maximum ammo down to 120 rounds.
24 rounds in a clip with 4 clips on standby. 30 rounds in a clip and 300 rounds(10 clips!) on standby for the Duvolle Tactical AR is TOO high. (The weapons range and dps is too high to maintain such sustained fire.)

- Recommend increasing hipfire spread by 50% to discourage using the Tactical in CQC.
I can simply sidestep, and hipfire a heavy or shotgun user without consequence.

Range and damage on the Tactical are fine. Recoil is well mitigated. Simply cut the number of rounds available to Tactical users, to reduce them running around the field with wreckless abandon. As a Tactical user, if I ran out of ammo as quickly on a Tac, as I do using a full-auto, I'd pick my engagements way more carefully.
Furthermore, not everyone can use a Tactical. It's not the use-to-win weapon that the Chromosome AR was. Many people would get killed by a Tactical, but not have the skill to use it as well. This is a sign of a well balanced weapon.

I think the TAR should be left alone for now so we can see how it fairs against the single shot scrambler rifle.
If it's still dominant and "OP" , I believe lowering its CQC effectiveness is the best course of action. Either push back its optimal range, or decrease its hipfire accuracy. Be careful not to nerf it too much and make it garbage.

Ok, to me, this weapon shouln't exist. At least not as an AR but as an SR (Scramble rifle).
Get those cheating guys should be easy.

1.- Just seeing at ther fire pattern (Banning people with auto fire)
2.- Decreasing RoF
3.- Making it heat. If it heats more the shorter the weapon is fire, the auto fire is worth for nothing.
4.- This weapon could ble like a laser as well. Not being able to hit with 100% damage at close.
There are many options to fix tacticals or just make a new weapon, but with some restrictions

I also used the weapon and is way OP. Simply cuz no weapons can match its range nor damage.
Laser Rifle (LR) should outrange those short/mid weapons, since LR should be be mid-long weapon.

L8er!

(With recent changes, it seems CCP is listening again. In that case, I will participate again.)

Not much needs to be done with the Tactical.
It's been my weapon of choice since I've dropped the sniper rifle.

Here are points on refining the Tactical:

- I can confirm that modded controllers are NOT an issue for the Tactical AR.
Tested using a "Steel Series 3GC PC Gaming Controller" which, as of Uprising, is fully compatible with Dust514. Turbo function enabled on R1. There was no significant increase to RoF when in ADS, and recoil was severe enough to totally discourage automatic use. However, there was a noticeable increase in RoF when hip-firing. The same applies for modded mouse inputs using a CronusX device... recoil is too high for the mouse to mitigate.

- Clip size and ammo capacity is disproportionately higher than other weapons. Therefore I recommend keeping the clip size for both Tactical assault rifles at 24 rounds, and cutting maximum ammo down to 120 rounds.
24 rounds in a clip with 4 clips on standby. 30 rounds in a clip and 300 rounds(10 clips!) on standby for the Duvolle Tactical AR is TOO high. (The weapons range and dps is too high to maintain such sustained fire.)

- Recommend increasing hipfire spread by 50% to discourage using the Tactical in CQC.
I can simply sidestep, and hipfire a heavy or shotgun user without consequence.

Range and damage on the Tactical are fine. Recoil is well mitigated. Simply cut the number of rounds available to Tactical users, to reduce them running around the field with wreckless abandon. As a Tactical user, if I ran out of ammo as quickly on a Tac, as I do using a full-auto, I'd pick my engagements way more carefully.
Furthermore, not everyone can use a Tactical. It's not the use-to-win weapon that the Chromosome AR was. Many people would get killed by a Tactical, but not have the skill to use it as well. This is a sign of a well balanced weapon.

I like 2 and 4 but 1 is just not true. It has enough subtle kick to it that you can't auto fire with it. Having it overheat is kind of silly, I'd probably just go for a smaller clip size and lower ammo capacity to tame the damn thing.

I feel like Tac-rifles should be a different rifle altogether, apart from the assault rifle family tree.

Hey Guys just a heads up.

It has been brought to the CPM's attention that there are concerns over the Tactical Assault Rifle. After some discussing the CPM believes that its best for the community to describe the nature of the Tactical Assault Rifle and we would really like to hear from all of you on the weapon.

This includes both Operators of Tactical Assault Rifle and the Targets of Tactical Assault Rifle.

So leave your thoughts from any point of view on the weapon we will check back on it.

The purpose of this is not to talk balance but to give feedback to CCP in a compact easy to find place before CCP gets the chance to do anything to it. Research if you will. So comment about what you think of the rifle honest from your point of view, and focus on what you really think of it and far less about trying to balance it. You should also include all environmental concerns involving the gun such as bad aiming, uprising woes and control issues that may be a factor in this gun sticking out too far verses most other weapons.

If you need to, include outside variables such as other ARs, suits, weapons, or scenarios involving the TAR.

Three words, best description

Automatic Sniper Rifle..
Geck on Steroids...

ok so I lied, six...

Hit Detection and Aiming are bad atm, until thats fixed no reason to have a discussion on ranged weapons.


Stop nerfing weapons, start buffing weapons.

Think TAR is to powerful? Buff lasers a bit.

Quit using a hammer to fine tune your game CCP, make changes in small increments.

I am new to the eve universe so I may not understand the lore with the weapons / factions as much as everyone else and what that entails.

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So leave your thoughts from any point of view on the weapon we will check back on it.
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