I am not telling you anything or implying whatever your mind is trying to conceive.

All I am saying is that using forge guns is equivalent to 'deliberately choking yourself and your team' - it is like quickscoping, you may perform fine but you're limiting your potential and thus ruining your team's opportunity to win. I'd rather you ran around with an assault rifle to be honest, I hate it when my team mates pretend to be cool by using those ANTI-TANK designed weapons on infantry.

Not sure if trolling....

Forge gunning has been one of my FAVORITE pass times in this game, even when I started playing last June.

It is not easy.

It is not difficult.

It just is. Of course I can one shot infantry, why the hell wouldn't I be able to? IT'S A HANDHELD RAILGUN

You're just pointing out things that it can/should do and acting as if it's "lulz OP nubscrubbery." No. It's a very high damage weapon with a very low RoF and if you catch a heavy with one (by himself) and he one shots you with it, he's either really good and knows what he's doing or he just got lucky.

One instance happened a few nights ago when I was on a tower, forge gunning and Brush Master flew a drop ship (which I had been trying the whole damn match to shoot down) to kill me for being annoying. He and I danced around a bit until I waited (and prayed) that when I released my charge it would hit him, and it did. I'm not even going to pretend it was l337 skillzorz that got me that kill, it was luck.

So STFU and quit crying.

Sorry, but I completely disagree. Forge gun is easy to use and the most effective weapon vs both vehicles AND infantry.

Forge guns are the most versatile weapon in the game.
Amazing range.
pinpoint accuracy
Enough damage to 1 shot any proto suit (just got hit 3.3k with 25% dmg reduction)
2 shot any dropship (Those can float around 1.5 million a piece and cost >7-12 million SP investment)
Wreck tanks and lavs like a joke.
Enough splash damage to 2 shot any drop-suit and rack you up some sweet, easy assists!


So for virtually no isk, and no SP you can dominate ground game and prevent any air activity. Blast ground vehicles into tears and snipe proto suits like it's nobody's business


Unless you're fine using the zero SP, 2000 ISK militia forge guns which are 90% as effective

In four days you'll have one last respec, and one last chance to bail these useless and over priced vehicles for the best weapon in the game. Just jam it on a militia suit and you'll never even lose isk per match but you'll cost the enemy team millions and millions.

I heard the definition of OP is when something becomes so good that it ruins diversity in the game.
The only reason forge guns haven't ruined diversity enough yet is that not enough players know about them.
So here's your PSA. Be the mercenary of Tomorrow, Today. Buy forge guns!

And you go 20/0 every time you use a FG all match as well right....Hell 20/0 you are so good you probably just kill everyone with your FG and you don't even need teammates. Right? I mean because it is so easy to use, and when the other team rushes you your FG just obliterates them all. RIGHT?

STFU.

You serious ? A guy can stand directly in front of you perfectly still at point blank range and there is STILL a good chance you are going to miss when you pull the trigger . Your shots don't alway go where your crosshair is pointed making it difficult to snipe with . Not to mention it's veeeeery ammo inefficient.

wait... HOW MANY MERCS HAVE A MLT FG FITTING? like for a servey!!!

if theyre so op why is everyone runnin AR? why cant i get help droppin tanks? sounds like someone lost a proto suit to a fg and doesnt want to admit he tried to shoot it out rather than move alittle bit

CQC ranges, Forge Gun fails. Long range against infantry, Forge Gun struggles. Against infantry in an elevated position, Forge Gun fails. Against snipers outside Forge range, Forge Gun fails. Against well-hidden snipers, Forge Gun fails. Against heavily-tanked HAVs, Forge Gun struggles. Against fast-moving evasive Dropships, Forge Gun struggles.

There are times where the Forge Gun will excel, and it works GREAT when well supported, but it's not a lone-wolf-everything-dies weapon. Which is fair enough, because neither is anything else.

Lol i love this talk about FG because they are OP but everyone says they arent and it requires skill to aim lol u get 6 feet above an enemy and it becomes an anti infintry weapon if you have the assult version 277splash damage before skills and mods in 5 seconds u get 2 shots lol not op. Tanks get 7k Ehp+ so at 1650 or watevr from an assult forge before skills amd mods thats 6 shots so balance is met. LAV drive fast enough that they are balanced because a good 1 can survive a hit and keep drivin. dropships lol jokes of the field 1 forge puts em on fire 2 forges blow em up since you dont know its there till it shoots you you have 2 seconds to react before you die even then thats not enough to get behind cover or out of range. So the OP is absolutly correct in his post a proto forge can do it all. Decimate ground troops pin tanks into corners blow up most lavs in 1 shot and shoot down any version of a dropship like its a fly.Its why last build i had one as a scout lol

How is being able to 1 shot a protosuit from a mile away, when otherwise they guy would completely destroy me in any fitting bad for the team?

If i can get a pixel of red on the crosshair from max range, I've hit the target. I don't think I'm particularly gifted. I suck at FPS and can't use a sniper rifle to save my life. I suck just as bad with AR's or anything else really. But idk I can't miss a shot with FG and vehicles are 10x the target size.

And you go 20/0 every time you use a FG all match as well right....Hell 20/0 you are so good you probably just kill everyone with your FG and you don't even need teammates. Right? I mean because it is so easy to use, and when the other team rushes you your FG just obliterates them all. RIGHT?

STFU.

Yes. Maybe not exactly 20/0 every match, but it's particularly easy to get a 5+ KDR average with a forge gun. By far the most powerful and effective overall weapon in the game. Anyone who's actually spent some time with the thing should quickly realize how easy it is to use. Point, click, dead.

if you claim there's a forge gun problem please post evidence in the form of math.

Arbitrary statements and vague accusations aren't exactly going to earn points here.

the math is in the low SP investment cost and low ISK cost of running a forge gun

and the 10 million SP and 1-2 million ISK cost for running a ship. Which can be easily taken out by less than proto AV forge, and totally denied the map by some free or militia fits. militia fg = no ds below 10,000 feet.


Lets also realize the damage they can do comes out of nowhere and leaves you either dead or burning and running to dodge the next 3 that are already lined up. Generally only takes two hits and the first one is a freebee. Second is virtually as easy.

Now for a weapon that can do all this, it also can obliterate any proto ground suit in one hit so it's not a detriment to the team that people are fielding them. If anything it puts the ball in the pocket for an easy victory.

So what you are saying is I payed a million ISK and put SP into a ship to fly so I should own the map and be a god in the sky. Get bent.

Ok then, everyone go FG on the 14th then we can have FG514. Why not, I mean it is the best weapon in the game right. Then when one guy with an AR kills your entire team please make another ARs are OP thread.

So what you are saying is I payed a million ISK and put SP into a ship to fly so I should own the map and be a god in the sky. Get bent.

Why does it make sense for a 1 Mil+ ISK vehicle that requires MILLIONS of SP to even use to be easier to destroy than militia dropsuits?

Why is a ship that costs 2 million able to destroy a ships worth 250 million? Isn't that the argument you want to make? We have seen it thousands of time over. Just because you put SP and ISK into something doesn't mean that it should be invincible and rule the battlefield.

no, you are completely missing the point. As it stands, dropships have less relative HPs than militia scout suits, it's absurd.