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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:11:00 -
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When you know what you're doing it isn't pointless, much more difficult but not pointless |
Idye Lotz
xCosmic Voidx
19
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:12:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Laheon wrote:Rifter7 wrote:i'm not stating that it should be removed. i'm saying it's something that should be thought about... mostly for the players that don't play as much.
please don't decide my stance on something by selectively quoting what i said haha.
There should be no thoughts about removal of active SP. Why? It discourages people from playing the game. "Why should I play now when I can come back in a year with 6m more SP and be able to jump into much better gear than I can now?" There is already a soft cap on SP per week, in order to make sure those who aren't as active don't fall too far behind. Don't punish those players who do play a lot, versus those who don't, simply because they're more dedicated (or have more free time) than those who aren't as active. that soft caps ensures the vets will always stay ahead as if i miss a week gaming or a few days beucase of the Cap i know no matter what i do i will never catch up, thus once your ahead you stay ahead this is why you see AFK farming so much. the skill system needs be done on EvE time system. the current method does not work in shooter
Yeah whoever thought up the soft cap wasn't thinking about this. There is no way to get caught up, unless there is a hard SP reset. It should have been done when the soft cap was introduced, now any new players will forever be behind. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3315
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:12:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:I dont even know what HTFU means, or where it came from.
Harden the 'Kitten' Up
a phrase made popular from a ccp song. It is one major difference between most pvp and pve fits is the ability to severely out resist incoming damage long enough over pve's focus on recovering hp.
Basically pros trying to tell scrubs to stop sucking so bad since an AR in the hand of a guy who knows what he is doing can still basically pwn people. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
206
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:14:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:The lesson is pay attention, read, do math, ask questions and find a group. You know, real life skills. This game is no harder than the first day of anything. People feel that they should be equal to everyone and that isn't true in any situation, including this game. CCP should not have to hold people's hands and explain everything in detail. If a merc doesn't have the time, ability or intelligence to play a game then they have more problems than a crappy tutorial.
I'm sorry but what?
New players or players with no mentors/corp either don't know what they're doing or they need help.
Pubstomps happen everyday with players getting 0 kills and quitting the game. If you're going to sit here and basically say HTFU then you MUST be one of those players who don't see the consequence of all of this in the long run.
Once the flow of players become stale, and we're all facing the same people over and over and over again, the game will not be anymore fun.
No one has to be "equal" but we must take into account the major differences between newer players or and older players.
If anything we need a match making system that's based on SP. Those in the 2 Mil or less get grouped together. Those in the 3-4 mil get grouped together. Those in the 5-6 mil get grouped together and 7-mil onward is fair game. And if players squad up together, the average of their SP count should be taken and used to placed them in a match.
Something like that would be a way better system than just letting the newbies waste their ISK against us. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
268
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:15:00 -
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I've always dared to say:
SUCCESS IN DUST 514 CONSISTS OF:
20% Character Skill Points 20% Character Equipment AND Personal Fitting skills 20% Personal Knowledge of maps 20% Personal skill in gungame (= shooting skill and microtactics) 20% Luck and situational things and pure luck
And as a bonus on in addition of those, taking it over the top: 20% Teamwork, tactics and voice comms
Please note I underlined some parts to emphasize there's plenty of room for personal excellence.
disclaimer: the numbers are arbitrary and not scientific, you clever you. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
253
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:22:00 -
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I whined about this earlier. In EVE, low sp pushovers can go get tackle in a frigate. That tackle can escalate into a capital grinding machine. I had my first solo officer spawn kill at under 1M sp in hostile nullsec, flying a ratting daredevil.
In dust, the best you can do is to escalate a bored protobear into bringing out an officer gun he'll lose. There is no "grandeur" to be achieved with low sp. Newbies have no menial role to fill either bar killing expensive stuff with militia forge gun in publics.
The core of the issue is in fixed team sizes. That tackling frigate is occupying the spot that should go to your a team.
How to fix it? GÇó deployable turrets of mothakitten punishment that are sp wise boosted only by turret operation GÇó webifier batteries that tackle flyers to ground and tanks to stand still, even MCC from escaping in PC. manned by anyone to same efficiency. GÇó you get it, new roles that rely on player skill only instead of sp.
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
393
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:13:00 -
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or just roles new guys can fill in the team spot in general would be good.
a lot of this just learn the game talk is no good, please deal with new players as they are rather than how you want them to behave, we need to get them interested so that Want to learn the game. telling to RTFM will just make them quit and move onto something else. Their seems to be a big case of not being able to view this game with no knowledge and just assuming everyone knows whats to do.
as an exercise try grouping with randoms in the NPC corps and find out how lost most players are :P |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1851
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:29:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote: as an exercise try grouping with randoms in the NPC corps and find out how lost most players are :P
lol, I do this, find squads in local. Besides the excessive cussing everytime they die - they're utterly clueless on what passives do and most mods. The ones who seem to learn the quickest are the tankers, lol, no idea what that says. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
91
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:30:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:out of experiment today i rolled a new alt and after 4-5 rounds of blind frustration that no matter what i did i was not going to kill anything above a basic player, i want back to old character and notice that because i dont play nearly as much as a i used too. im now getting face panned because i don't have the leet gear required to compete. My skill no longer matters at all.
and im starting to worry that the reason i dont see many newb corps in the scoreboards anymore is that anyone new gets facerolled in minutes, and just goes to pick something else up. their are three heavy hitters coming out in the next few months and I know one has already taken a large hit on the vet playerbase because i saw them all running around in it. Put simply unlike in EvE if your a new guy in dust or player who simply does not have the time to keep up. You will lose end off no question.
and before the trolls common here going HTFU. In EvE you have other things to do if your on a bad roll. in Dust thier is no other option than lose, and that will bleep players like no tomorrow, Every other shooter out their has things in place if you cant compleat in dust the vets and newbs are throw together and surprise surprise.
i dont really know how to make my point other than Dust is building it self up for a legacy issue that has plaged EvE. Vets will remain godlike and newbs will never ever be able to catch up, this gap is becoming wider and wider every month and simply don't see how in the current gameplay this can be fixed, my key worry is that 5 month in, myself someone who is been hear from the start can no longer gain any enjoyment due to constant frustrating not enjoyable fights match after match to point i just quit beucase i can tell after 3 minutes if im going to win or lose.
fix the game progression before you kill off your own game.
put another way, on other beta forums i see nothing but people looking forward to its release, on here i still see nothing but problems and new patch is completely untested and already had has holes poked in it. In my honest view this game needs to go back to drawing board and work out what type of game it wants to be because right now its failing to even do the basics right
I feel that is EXACTLY why in Dust when everything is commercially released YOU HAVE to reset all stats one more time. This game is NOT player friendly by any means. If you fall behind it really can effect your future on this game. I had to wait till open beta to start playing. Closed beta was just too hard for me. I honestly think CCP will realize just how hard this game really is for the new player and will be forced to give one last stat whipe for one last attempt to increase population of this game. IF resetting stats is out of the question you could always do Tier based as well no higher than militia,standard, and have Proto only modes. This idea sounds good on paper but if you cut up the population in so many divides you might as well have a dead game.
In the long run would be much simpler and better for the game's lifespan in the long run to just give everybody one last stat wipe when the game commercially releases. That way they can say they did everything in their power to get most people to try to play the commercially released version of this game. More people will be more open to starting when everybody else is starting from scratch rather than when everybody has the best gear. Like you said you get smacked pretty hard rather you have skill or not if you run into pub stompers. Even to this day I catch people in Enforcer and arbiter build so you will be able to fight some people but a team with a corp that pub stomps no matter how endless your skill is you are done.
I have been playing shooters for awhile and got a pretty good amount of experience and aim. Even than going up against proto dmg mod players I will be crushed in my ScoutA/Exile suit with no mods. IF I care that much and really wanna just kill them back at the risk of higher cost suits I can easily do so on most of these pubby allstars. P2W is exactly that in this game. I seen P2W where it gives you slight advantage but still requires skill. This game however P2W gives a HUGE advantage over opponents. I seen many players that I used to crush and see them go negative every single game, now that they got Aur Proto with Killswitches they can carry their own quite good. Could they have just gotten better? Of course but when they aren't using this gear they get slapped and forced to put it on to make it a fight is exactly my point the gear can increase your skill level 1-2 levels.
BluedotBad,Bad,Decent,Prettygood,KILLER Is how I normally have my skills ranked in my own head. If you are bluedotbad depending on just how bad you are you can improve up to bad or decent with aur proto and killswitches(or your respected weapon choice proto) If you are decent you can bump up to pretty good or even KILLER. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1851
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:35:00 -
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Reseting stats now or a year from now makes NO difference other then your telling CCP that there game plan is broken. What does it matter if we're a head already - a year from now we'll be 10 times further a long when new people just start out. If CCP does a reset after CLEARLY stating there will be none there will be problems.
I'm totally against a reset as it kills the point CCP is trying to make. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
91
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:42:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Reseting stats now or a year from now makes NO difference other then your telling CCP that there game plan is broken. What does it matter if we're a head already - a year from now we'll be 10 times further a long when new people just start out. If CCP does a reset after CLEARLY stating there will be none there will be problems.
I'm totally against a reset as it kills the point CCP is trying to make.
Reset is not so bad...You will still kill and get all ya boosters back and just have to do it one more time. Taking a small disadvantage for giving you more victims is not so bad. This game WILL NOT last 10 years if it's all just the veterans who are playing it lol. Open your mind man, look past 5 ft in front of you. IF they don't reset they can do the tier idea as I said BUT I think cutting the population up that many divides will feel like the game is dead. You don't wanna play the exact same people every single game that is when you know it's dead and Destiny will finish it off or any other game that has potential maybe Confrontation2 with real budget and time frame. IF you reset at least you are doing everything to reach out to gamers and build your community. Either way I will get my kills, I rather enjoyed the beginning of the game and slapping everybody out the way it was fun. Even now the game isn't bad I don't AFK farm I like playing it. So either way I am fine with, I am simply posting ideas out there so the game lasts and not dies. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1851
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Posted - 2013.04.01 14:47:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Reseting stats now or a year from now makes NO difference other then your telling CCP that there game plan is broken. What does it matter if we're a head already - a year from now we'll be 10 times further a long when new people just start out. If CCP does a reset after CLEARLY stating there will be none there will be problems.
I'm totally against a reset as it kills the point CCP is trying to make. Reset is not so bad...You will still kill and get all ya boosters back and just have to do it one more time. Taking a small disadvantage for giving you more victims is not so bad. This game WILL NOT last 10 years if it's all just the veterans who are playing it lol. Open your mind man, look past 5 ft in front of you. IF they don't reset they can do the tier idea as I said BUT I think cutting the population up that many divides will feel like the game is dead. You don't wanna play the exact same people every single game that is when you know it's dead and Destiny will finish it off or any other game that has potential maybe Confrontation2 with real budget and time frame. IF you reset at least you are doing everything to reach out to gamers and build your community. Either way I will get my kills, I rather enjoyed the beginning of the game and slapping everybody out the way it was fun. Even now the game isn't bad I don't AFK farm I like playing it. So either way I am fine with, I am simply posting ideas out there so the game lasts and not dies. Never give up that fighting for dust514 spirit :P
But my eyes are fine and I see the future clearly. Any company that goes against it's word as often as CCP is looking at problems gameplay will never solve. They already have merc pack issues and other legal concerns due to there horrible wordings, now you're asking them to go once again against what they've stated they wanted. But this is a minute point.
The games success lies at it's META - not SP grind. If players only see this game for what SP can offer them then CCP has utterly failed and this game will indeed die in a year or so.
If you ask for a reset now you may as well ask for one once a year so newbies can keep up. It's honestly mind boggling. |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
35
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:33:00 -
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True and that is because Dust514 is not like any other game outhere but you have AURUM to compensate. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
92
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:35:00 -
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Lol, I love this whole CCP has to stick to their word junk... What Company has 100% stuck to their word... If they were soo perfect where are they today? The Government lies look at them they are still up and going. Let's not hold them to their word it never works. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1851
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:37:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol, I love this whole CCP has to stick to their word junk... What Company has 100% stuck to their word... If they were soo perfect where are they today? The Government lies look at them they are still up and going. Let's not hold them to their word it never works. Cool - let's just not trust them at all. Yea, that's the kind of company I want to give my money to.
Can you stop posting now? You're just being conflictive without constructive points. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
92
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:42:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol, I love this whole CCP has to stick to their word junk... What Company has 100% stuck to their word... If they were soo perfect where are they today? The Government lies look at them they are still up and going. Let's not hold them to their word it never works. Cool - let's just not trust them at all. Yea, that's the kind of company I want to give my money to. Can you stop posting now? You're just being conflictive without constructive points.
Um if you want to not trust a company because they do something that is YOUR stupidity. Things always change there is nobody out there that tells you one thing and delivers on their word 100% circumstances change always. Perhaps get your head out the fairy tales and live a little life.
That was mean I am sorry. All I am saying is the person who made this thread is telling the truth there is a huge curve and to fix that you want players all on the same level ESPECIALLY day1 of your commercial release it's releasing games 101. There hasn't been much if any games that give beta testers such a HUGE advantage over commercial released players. That game would not be successful if this scares you let's play a game of FUDGE OFF..You go first... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1853
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:44:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol, I love this whole CCP has to stick to their word junk... What Company has 100% stuck to their word... If they were soo perfect where are they today? The Government lies look at them they are still up and going. Let's not hold them to their word it never works. Cool - let's just not trust them at all. Yea, that's the kind of company I want to give my money to. Can you stop posting now? You're just being conflictive without constructive points. Um if you want to not trust a company because they do something that is YOUR stupidity. Things always change there is nobody out there that tells you one thing and delivers on their word 100% circumstances change always. Perhaps get your head out the fairy tales and live a little life. That was mean I am sorry. All I am saying is the person who made this thread is telling the truth there is a huge curve and to fix that you want players all on the same level ESPECIALLY day1 of your commercial release it's releasing games 101. There hasn't been much if any games that give beta testers such a HUGE advantage over commercial released players. That game would not be successful if this scares you let's play a game of FUDGE OFF..You go first... You definitely have no idea what you're talking about and are probably ignorant of all the legal problems CCP is facing right now because they say one thing then do another...
But hey - maybe Bethesda turned this into a trend like Kain did to AFK farming. Who needs to trust there companies word anymore? |
The Cobra Commander
Bojo's School of the Trades
5
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:49:00 -
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What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
92
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lol, I love this whole CCP has to stick to their word junk... What Company has 100% stuck to their word... If they were soo perfect where are they today? The Government lies look at them they are still up and going. Let's not hold them to their word it never works. Cool - let's just not trust them at all. Yea, that's the kind of company I want to give my money to. Can you stop posting now? You're just being conflictive without constructive points. Um if you want to not trust a company because they do something that is YOUR stupidity. Things always change there is nobody out there that tells you one thing and delivers on their word 100% circumstances change always. Perhaps get your head out the fairy tales and live a little life. That was mean I am sorry. All I am saying is the person who made this thread is telling the truth there is a huge curve and to fix that you want players all on the same level ESPECIALLY day1 of your commercial release it's releasing games 101. There hasn't been much if any games that give beta testers such a HUGE advantage over commercial released players. That game would not be successful if this scares you let's play a game of FUDGE OFF..You go first... You definitely have no idea what you're talking about and are probably ignorant of all the legal problems CCP is facing right now because they say one thing then do another... But hey - maybe Bethesda turned this into a trend like Kain did to AFK farming. Who needs to trust there companies word anymore?
LOL! CCP is facing legal issues huh? For a BETA? Please just SHUT THE HEEEEEEELL UUUUUUUP!!! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:53:00 -
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The Cobra Commander wrote:What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
Vets, let's be honest. None of us are here because we find this game thrilling - it may be fun to play still because of the community/friends/fun drama, but it got dull and repetitive back in November. We're still here because we're looking to prepare for the future that this game promises. If this was all there is to it - just shooting each other - I'd quit right now and never look back.
I'm here for the META and nothing but. That and the RTS element we were promised then ignored. |
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Charlotte O'Dell
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
87
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:59:00 -
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You're forgetting about planetary conquest mode. serious players will flock there bc of higher payouts, and noobs will play pub matches. itll balance itself. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
92
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:00:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:The Cobra Commander wrote:What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
Vets, let's be honest. None of us are here because we find this game thrilling - it may be fun to play still because of the community/friends/fun drama, but it got dull and repetitive back in November. We're still here because we're looking to prepare for the future that this game promises. If this was all there is to it - just shooting each other - I'd quit right now and never look back. I'm here for the META and nothing but. That and the RTS element we were promised then ignored.
So YOU and the "vets" should be rewarded for AFK farming? anyways wipe no wipe either way is fine. Let's get back to this dumb CCP is facing LEGAL issues because they haven't 100% delivered on their words for a damn BETA lol you are clearly making crap up. You can't sue a company for not making their BETA version to your standards. |
The Cobra Commander
Bojo's School of the Trades
5
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:02:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:The Cobra Commander wrote:What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
Vets, let's be honest. None of us are here because we find this game thrilling - it may be fun to play still because of the community/friends/fun drama, but it got dull and repetitive back in November. We're still here because we're looking to prepare for the future that this game promises. If this was all there is to it - just shooting each other - I'd quit right now and never look back. I'm here for the META and nothing but. That and the RTS element we were promised then ignored.
This is kinda what I was getting at. How will a console game survive like this? I think some people are down playing this aspect of things and I think the OP brought up some really valid points. |
McFurious
BetaMax. CRONOS.
70
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:08:00 -
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I think a reset is pointless. Even if they did, after a month we'll be in the same situation. People who played since the reset will have their fancy gear and any new players will be getting slaughtered and bitching about it on the forums. Or they'll leave. Some might even call for another reset.
All they really need to do is have match making working properly. Newbs can play with newbs and all the ****-socking, no-lifers in protogear can play with eachother. Let's also not forget PVE should be working by then as well so the noobs will be able to farm their SP from rouge drones and whatnot.
I'm really not keen on grinding up my SP for a third time. I'd do it of course but fecking hell my patience is getting thin. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1859
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:10:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:The Cobra Commander wrote:What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
Vets, let's be honest. None of us are here because we find this game thrilling - it may be fun to play still because of the community/friends/fun drama, but it got dull and repetitive back in November. We're still here because we're looking to prepare for the future that this game promises. If this was all there is to it - just shooting each other - I'd quit right now and never look back. I'm here for the META and nothing but. That and the RTS element we were promised then ignored. So YOU and the "vets" should be rewarded for AFK farming? anyways wipe no wipe either way is fine. Let's get back to this dumb CCP is facing LEGAL issues because they haven't 100% delivered on their words for a damn BETA lol you are clearly making crap up. You can't sue a company for not making their BETA version to your standards. Your a glutton for punishment :\
Early merc packs said there'd be refunds for commercial launch or some such. Commercial launch means official release - CCP says it means Open Beta. America terminology disagrees. That's a major legal issue and anyone could take it up and sue them for infringement. That's a PERFECT example of CCP saying one thing then doing another. A thing NONE of us wants in our company.
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syzygiet
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:16:00 -
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I have created 5 characters to mess with different weapons and left them all around 550k sp and all of them have better KDR >2.0 playing purely ambush than my main which was my first character. With that said experience and skills matters up to a point for example it is impossible to kill a a decent skilled person with 3 complex shield extenders because you cant put them down with 1 clip of the AR at least the militia one (chalked that from personal experience). However, I created a Shot gunner and I have no problems taking down a heavy/assault proto players with just the militia shotgun provided i get the jump on them.
So it might be more difficult to kill someone with more sp it is not impossible and anyone thinks they can go toe to toe with someone with more SP they are dreaming. Part of being a good player is knowing your weakness and adjusting your play style. |
Nstomper
Commando Perkone Caldari State
212
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:30:00 -
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Not really i role militia fits all day everyday and seem to be still getting a high k/d but also this wont be much of a problem when the whole high sec and null sec come into play
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
537
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:45:00 -
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Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:Laheon wrote: If you throw someone new to the game in a protosuit with officer weapons, and throw him against, say, Regnum in a militia suit, I'd put my money on Regnum. Actually, against any of the better players.
Remember what happened in those game-show Merc Battles, where people on the floor trying out Dust had Prot-gear and we had maybe Advanced? Remember how they couldn't do anything against people who've been playing Dust for a while?
That's not particularly relevant. Nobody outside of such promotional events will ever get themselves up to Proto gear without learning the maps and basic mechanics of the game. If anything that makes the plight of the newberry even more perilous, as they will be greenhorns in addition to being dead last in the race for SP. |
XeroTheBigBoss
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:The Cobra Commander wrote:What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
Vets, let's be honest. None of us are here because we find this game thrilling - it may be fun to play still because of the community/friends/fun drama, but it got dull and repetitive back in November. We're still here because we're looking to prepare for the future that this game promises. If this was all there is to it - just shooting each other - I'd quit right now and never look back. I'm here for the META and nothing but. That and the RTS element we were promised then ignored. So YOU and the "vets" should be rewarded for AFK farming? anyways wipe no wipe either way is fine. Let's get back to this dumb CCP is facing LEGAL issues because they haven't 100% delivered on their words for a damn BETA lol you are clearly making crap up. You can't sue a company for not making their BETA version to your standards. Your a glutton for punishment :\ Early merc packs said there'd be refunds for commercial launch or some such. Commercial launch means official release - CCP says it means Open Beta. America terminology disagrees. That's a major legal issue and anyone could take it up and sue them for infringement. That's a PERFECT example of CCP saying one thing then doing another. A thing NONE of us wants in our company.
Again you are shining with flying colors in the art of stupidity OPEN BETA IS NOT Commercial Release. BETA is pre release product. Commercial Release is the final product release for the general public. Yes the OPEN Beta is released to the general public but it is still a BETA.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.04.01 16:51:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:The Cobra Commander wrote:What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.
The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.
Vets, let's be honest. None of us are here because we find this game thrilling - it may be fun to play still because of the community/friends/fun drama, but it got dull and repetitive back in November. We're still here because we're looking to prepare for the future that this game promises. If this was all there is to it - just shooting each other - I'd quit right now and never look back. I'm here for the META and nothing but. That and the RTS element we were promised then ignored. So YOU and the "vets" should be rewarded for AFK farming? anyways wipe no wipe either way is fine. Let's get back to this dumb CCP is facing LEGAL issues because they haven't 100% delivered on their words for a damn BETA lol you are clearly making crap up. You can't sue a company for not making their BETA version to your standards. Your a glutton for punishment :\ Early merc packs said there'd be refunds for commercial launch or some such. Commercial launch means official release - CCP says it means Open Beta. America terminology disagrees. That's a major legal issue and anyone could take it up and sue them for infringement. That's a PERFECT example of CCP saying one thing then doing another. A thing NONE of us wants in our company. Again you are shining with flying colors in the art of stupidity OPEN BETA IS NOT Commercial Release. BETA is pre release product. Commercial Release is the final product release for the general public. Yes the OPEN Beta is released to the general public but it is still a BETA. .... uh yea, that's... sorta the problem CCP is facing legally... didn't.. I say that?
OIC I forgot to mention they won't be refunding AUR anymore - effectively turning there "Commercial release refund" into a lie. |
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