I have to lol and agree with my English scum corp mate here.

This weekend I travelled back to gods country (ng thWales) and today I thought I would show my 12 year old sister Dust 514. After going through 30 minutes explaining the menu systems etc, it was time for my 12 year old sister, who has never picked up a FPS in her life Dust 514................... and who do we bump into? Deadpool, Gunner nightingale and I3ear and 2 other squads of imperfects in seperate matches lol needless to say, she got 1 kill and 1 death (the kill was a fluke but I won't tell her that)

needless to say, it was carnage.

Because they cannot afford better games?

I run a sever bpo with militia mods all the time(yes I'm poor) and I still top the boards occasionally, I also tend to place in the top 5 with the same fit, and that's against people running adv suits with the odd proto

I already know that many of you will rage on me, but a general (basic shield/armor and modules) HP nerf would probably be the solution. Smart/reactive players would win a 1vs1 against a proto. This would encourage new people to play dust, and would give veterans a new incentive... just my 0.02 isk

Its hard but the main problem is the perception of inequality, think back to the first FPS you played MP, I know I got my ass handed to me for 10s of matches in a row before I figured things out, now add to that the knowledge that some of the gear is better then what you have, and it becomes easy to blame gear and skills for your own short coming and give up on the game.

Nubs need a .....relatively....... safe place to learn, and pros need consistent fights to improve, once again, we need segregation, not forced but there none the less.


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one of the more significant demonstration of the effect of mixing new players and skilled players was playing soul caliber 2, I challenged a friend who didn't play much having played religiously for a couple of years. he button mashed and I play in a cool planed manner...... I didn't do very well the first round but adapted by regressing my level of play to a controlled spamming of attacks to head off the continuous onslaught of my button mashing opponent, instead of the neat attack counter attack etc I had learned to use fighting good players. I didn't lose another round but my game was not improved either. Tho I did come to a understanding that when faced with brute force the better option is to respond with better organized brute force.

You see this all the time in matches in dust the better team wins by being better at out rushing and not by tactics, because both teams have too many new and unskilled players to do anything else, and yes this is what corp matches are for, but organized preplanned matches where bragging right are on the line are not the best place for emergent game play and should not be the only place that it can happen. This is where FW matches can fill the gap if they are tiered.

Although for every level increase the payouts for time in match should be reduced significantly and only participation(read WP(read DS need to be fixed)) should be rewarded.

as an exercise try grouping with randoms in the NPC corps and find out how lost most players are :P

Reset is not so bad...You will still kill and get all ya boosters back and just have to do it one more time. Taking a small disadvantage for giving you more victims is not so bad. This game WILL NOT last 10 years if it's all just the veterans who are playing it lol. Open your mind man, look past 5 ft in front of you. IF they don't reset they can do the tier idea as I said BUT I think cutting the population up that many divides will feel like the game is dead. You don't wanna play the exact same people every single game that is when you know it's dead and Destiny will finish it off or any other game that has potential maybe Confrontation2 with real budget and time frame. IF you reset at least you are doing everything to reach out to gamers and build your community. Either way I will get my kills, I rather enjoyed the beginning of the game and slapping everybody out the way it was fun. Even now the game isn't bad I don't AFK farm I like playing it. So either way I am fine with, I am simply posting ideas out there so the game lasts and not dies.

Lol, I love this whole CCP has to stick to their word junk... What Company has 100% stuck to their word... If they were soo perfect where are they today? The Government lies look at them they are still up and going. Let's not hold them to their word it never works.

Um if you want to not trust a company because they do something that is YOUR stupidity. Things always change there is nobody out there that tells you one thing and delivers on their word 100% circumstances change always. Perhaps get your head out the fairy tales and live a little life.

That was mean I am sorry. All I am saying is the person who made this thread is telling the truth there is a huge curve and to fix that you want players all on the same level ESPECIALLY day1 of your commercial release it's releasing games 101. There hasn't been much if any games that give beta testers such a HUGE advantage over commercial released players. That game would not be successful if this scares you let's play a game of FUDGE OFF..You go first...

What a lot of people do not seem to get is that if things do not change soon with this game it will not go far. A lot of people who I know think that the SP is the end all be all. That may not be the case but that perception is not helping this game at all.

The IGN boards were mentioned earlier and there was a lot of truth in that comment. Many people are not thrilled with this game. I did what I could to introduce it to my friends on PSN. Many of them started the game but all but a couple still even play it.

So YOU and the "vets" should be rewarded for AFK farming? anyways wipe no wipe either way is fine. Let's get back to this dumb CCP is facing LEGAL issues because they haven't 100% delivered on their words for a damn BETA lol you are clearly making crap up. You can't sue a company for not making their BETA version to your standards.

Again you are shining with flying colors in the art of stupidity OPEN BETA IS NOT Commercial Release. BETA is pre release product. Commercial Release is the final product release for the general public. Yes the OPEN Beta is released to the general public but it is still a BETA.

Again I say...got a link?!?!

I refuse - Anyone I care about around here already knows and your nobody to waste that sort of effort on. The basis of this conversation is as such : RESET IS DUMB.

I'd hate Dust if it become a CoD clone, I'm not talking about "one shot" people, but, for example, instead of 45 Militia AR shots to kill a full proto lower it to 15-20. Game would be faster (not too much) and smart guys can go behind protos and kill them easily. If I had a new char and I try to do this on my own first character, the first character would have all the time to turn around, smoke a cigarette, laugh on my militia suit and kill me!

stop trolling dude start a separate thread if you care so much get back to the topic at hand.

The problem with that is that every other shooter has a skill level cap to where eventually,everyone will hit it,no matter how much or little you play.Since there's no level cap,there are some players that don't play enough to keep up with the pack.The thing is though,that's totally on them,but it's still a double edged sword that can end up hurting the game.