AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen.

chucklefucks

You trolling right?

I'm stealing this^.





Not that one tho. Ya weirdo.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

Impossible to counter? Lol.

And since when do OBs not register on the maps?

Forge guns do need an adjustment as they can be used to snipe infantry. The lore goes they are miner tools adapted for combat, I am assuming they shouldn't be that accurate from long ranges. But that is not the case for the advanced forge guns for sure.

What I propose for a change is, if its not a direct hit, infantry doesn't take 1 shot kill dmg and are knocked back. As the heavy tanks have more mass, they can't absorb the dmg by being pushed around. This means it still does full splash dmg to tanks as they can't rid the shockwave away from the dmg. This could also lead to some fun combat mechanics where forge gunners don't kill ledge monkeys, but instead push them off their high perches to possibly fall to their death.

OB's are currently bugged, I think. They don't register on people standing on top of buildings, but they do register to people standing underneath them.

I've taken out a forge gunner with my AR before, at fairly close range, before he could charge it up. Not really too difficult. If he misses the first time, then he's dead. Oh, and knowing when to jump is essential. Listen to the charge-up noise.

But it's basically a railgun, those things are a OHK on any human target, the things working fine right now.

Don't stand still.

From a gameplay perspective,OHK forge guns really don't make much sense... regardless of miltia vs proto or any other argument. OHK from distance is always lame.

I move around more than a dude tweaking out on methamphetamines, moving or not they still have all day long to line up their shot from the tallest structures in the game.

Snipers....railguns...

So... you want to nerf a gun because of poor map design?

Can we just fix the map problem instead? Or make OBs do what they're supposed to?

(On a side note, if this really is a troll: expertly done, sir. Expertly done.)

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight.

Interesting. Are those new terms for us to learn?

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

And your team's snipers couldn't take him out why?

OH AND YOU THINK I'M RAGING? NO, I'M JUST USING MY ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE TO SHOW YOU HOW LOUDLY I'M DRINKING YOUR TEARS.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

But it's basically a railgun, those things are a OHK on any human target, the things working fine right now.

mm, your tears are tasty

stop complaining, i miss and i'm ****.ed

cuntcream

No, if you miss, you take two steps back out of EVERYONE'S line of fire, reload, and head-glitch yourself some dropsuit kills from the tallest buildings in the game.

ITT: Non-forge gunners explain how mechanics should be to forge gunners.

On topic: Seriously though, have you tried to forge gun? Then you will realize how hard it is to kill someone with it. We don't get one-hit kills all the time. Most of the time, it's splash damage. If you have a beefed up dropsuit you won't die to 3 splash damage hits to a forge gun.

Besides that, Militia Forges only get 3 shots instead of the standard Forge Gun's 4 shots.

And if you somehow got a shot with a forge gun to DIRECTLY hit a MOVING target at MAXIMUM distance... seriously... even if I'M the one that gets killed like that, I give the guy props.


This. I don't know how many times I have died to snipers because I stood still thinking that I can hit a person or sniper with just one more second...

And the sniper then proves he needs half a second.

Besides, I assume you use the Duvolle. When you upgrade Light Weaponry Sharpshooting what do you upgrade? Out of the current 11 weapons you can choose, 6... read MORE THAN HALF of the weapons benefit from that. What about Heavy Weapon Sharpshooting? Oh that's right: TWO.

YOU'RE SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING PROTOSUITS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PUBSTOMP AND THEN WHEN YOU GET KILLED, YOU COME ON THE FORUMS AND COMPLAIN? HARDEN THE **** UP. STOP USING YOUR PRECIOUS SUITS, DEVISE A STRATEGY, AND COUNTER THE FORGE GUNNERS. NOT THAT HARD.

OH AND YOU THINK I'M RAGING? NO, I'M JUST USING MY ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE TO SHOW YOU HOW LOUDLY I'M DRINKING YOUR TEARS.

GOOD DAY.

ITT: Non-forge gunners explain how mechanics should be to forge gunners.

On topic: Seriously though, have you tried to forge gun? Then you will realize how hard it is to kill someone with it. We don't get one-hit kills all the time. Most of the time, it's splash damage. If you have a beefed up dropsuit you won't die to 3 splash damage hits to a forge gun.

Besides that, Militia Forges only get 3 shots instead of the standard Forge Gun's 4 shots.

And if you somehow got a shot with a forge gun to DIRECTLY hit a MOVING target at MAXIMUM distance... seriously... even if I'M the one that gets killed like that, I give the guy props.


This. I don't know how many times I have died to snipers because I stood still thinking that I can hit a person or sniper with just one more second...

And the sniper then proves he needs half a second.

Besides, I assume you use the Duvolle. When you upgrade Light Weaponry Sharpshooting what do you upgrade? Out of the current 11 weapons you can choose, 6... read MORE THAN HALF of the weapons benefit from that. What about Heavy Weapon Sharpshooting? Oh that's right: TWO.

YOU'RE SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING PROTOSUITS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PUBSTOMP AND THEN WHEN YOU GET KILLED, YOU COME ON THE FORUMS AND COMPLAIN? HARDEN THE **** UP. STOP USING YOUR PRECIOUS SUITS, DEVISE A STRATEGY, AND COUNTER THE FORGE GUNNERS. NOT THAT HARD.

OH AND YOU THINK I'M RAGING? NO, I'M JUST USING MY ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE TO SHOW YOU HOW LOUDLY I'M DRINKING YOUR TEARS.

GOOD DAY.

that's poor map design, don't ask for a nerf on a weapon due to a crappy map set-up

I hope free beers is taking some notes.

If they made it impossible to access areas like mt. Kilimanjaro in Manus and the 6 fuckhuge tall towers in that one skrimish map, it wouldn't be as bad of an issue, but I still have misgivings about an AV weapon able to kill infantry with one loosely aimed shot.

Kobrah, have to say, you're in violation of the rules.

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But apart from that, I don't see anything wrong with forge gun. If I die to one, my fault for standing still for so long.

My creative insults aren't profanity, they're new words all together! if CCP feels the need to go through and edit my creative shots at heavies, so be it, but I at least hope they get a chuckle out of it

The round is traveling at an excess of 7000M/S if it can't kill you in one shot, there's a problem.

Kobrah, have to say, you're in violation of the rules.

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The use of profanity is prohibited on the DUST 514 forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.

But apart from that, I don't see anything wrong with forge gun. If I die to one, my fault for standing still for so long.

Then how do you explain a proto heavy that can take a militia forge gun to the chest and not drop?

just headglitch them or shoot thru railings. the projectiles massive and loves hitting terrain... not to mention its not exactly easy to aim compared to a sniper rifle at those ranges.

if u want to be able to stand out in the open and tank av rounds then i think maybe you should find a different game man.. this one might not be for you.

Yeah, you're right, after killing nearly 12,000 people and dying barely over 2,000 times, this game clearly isn't for me. Heaven forbid I complain about an ANTI VEHICLE weapon shooting INFANTRY. The swarm launcher used to be able to be shot at infantry, but it was changed for good reason. Why does the forge gun remain unchanged?

Heaven forbid I complain about an ANTI VEHICLE weapon shooting INFANTRY. The swarm launcher used to be able to be shot at infantry, but it was changed for good reason. Why does the forge gun remain unchanged?

You're really going to hate that plasma cannon...

Yeah, you're right, after killing nearly 12,000 people and dying barely over 2,000 times, this game clearly isn't for me. Heaven forbid I complain about an ANTI VEHICLE weapon shooting INFANTRY. The swarm launcher used to be able to be shot at infantry, but it was changed for good reason. Why does the forge gun remain unchanged?

using a forge gun to kill people is hard as kittens.

This is as dumb as people complaining that headshots are OP

Anyone else hear this?

I only read these posts for his creative word choice. I mean seriously some of those insults are being entered into my vocabulary of insults.

i suggested a long time ago that forge guns shouldn't have splash damage. AV weapons just don't need splash.

then revert the current firing cone back to the old horizontally aligned firing... rectangle? (it's the same function as a firing cone but it wasn't round. the crosshairs were a rectangle)

that would keep them about as accurate as they are now, if not more-so against enemy vehicles. (consider their cross section, vehicles are generally wider than they are tall.) while making them less accurate against infantry. (again, consider the cross section, even a heavy is taller than it is wide.)

You mean the weapon that shoots out a tracer I'd be able to see coming and avoid? gee that sure does sound a lot worse than instant death from something you can't possibly be prepared for.

How do you prepare for any weapon if you don't where they're at? You also said you were moving, the fact that you got killed while spawn camping tells me that you probably weren't moving enough.

You know what really annoys me? When my LAV gets taken out by HMGs, ARs, and Mass Drivers. How dare Infantry weapons do damage to a vehicle, that's simply ridiculous!

the HMG and AR damage is a TAD ridiculousness, i'll give you that one, but the MD is a GRENADE launcher, leave it alone!

NEVER! It's as OP as Forge Guns taking out infantry!

Kitten you! Touch it and you die.

How do you prepare for any weapon if you don't where they're at? You also said you were moving, the fact that you got killed while spawn camping tells me that you probably weren't moving enough.

You know what really annoys me? When my LAV gets taken out by HMGs, ARs, and Mass Drivers. How dare Infantry weapons do damage to a vehicle, that's simply ridiculous!

It's very simple. If I see half my shields suddenly taken out, I know it's a sniper, take note of the direction of his shot, and don't give him anything to shoot at anymore.
If I see my character suddenly drop dead, with no explosion, no signs of damage or enemy presence, I first break my controller into dozens of tiny pieces, urinate on my PS3, throw it into the microwave for 5 minutes on HIGH, and realize it was a forge gunner that killed me.

Yeah, you're right, after killing nearly 12,000 people and dying barely over 2,000 times, this game clearly isn't for me. Heaven forbid I complain about an ANTI VEHICLE weapon shooting INFANTRY. The swarm launcher used to be able to be shot at infantry, but it was changed for good reason. Why does the forge gun remain unchanged?

It's very simple. If I see half my shields suddenly taken out, I know it's a sniper, take note of the direction of his shot, and don't give him anything to shoot at anymore.
If I see my character suddenly drop dead, with no explosion, no signs of damage or enemy presence, I first break my controller into dozens of tiny pieces, urinate on my PS3, throw it into the microwave for 5 minutes on HIGH, and realize it was a forge gunner that killed me.

Only a 6 kd? Lol you deserve to be killed by forge gunners

Only a 6 kd? Lol you deserve to be killed by forge gunners

lol, we will have a logi rebellion on our hands if this happens

leave my logipets toy alone

Keep talking like that, and I'm going to shoot you with my MD

Only a 6 kd? Lol you deserve to be killed by forge gunners

Keep talking like that, and I'm going to shoot you with my MD

would easily be 15+ if i didn't get hit with forge guns on a daily basis

we TRY to keep you humble, clearly it's failing

"Unskilled" heavies are killing you with forge guns daily despite your best efforts to evade them?

Adapt or die.

if on the same side, you're just wasting ammo

we TRY to keep you humble, clearly it's failing

True but I can blind you. And run you over with my LAV's and crush you with my dropships and suicide grenade you, and thats just what I can do with you on my team

ever been hit by a forge gun as you're falling out of the MCC on your very first spawn on the game?























neither have I, but I bet it would make me mad enough to make another troll post.

dropship would go boom, grats, you are now isk negative.

never been splated by an allies LAV (i think it's a myth) and a heavy can take a single lotus nade


you logipets are so cute when y'all are mad

You guys are all ignoring the real issue here, Nova Knives are OP!

And you fatties look so funny as you waddle everywhere

i kill alot with the nova knife OP my arse

Figures, just as I skill into Forge Guns someone calls for a nerf.

It happened with tanks, MDs and Shotguns.

Figures, just as I skill into Forge Guns someone calls for a nerf.

It happened with tanks, MDs and Shotguns.

i like to call it "The Waddle of DOOM"

i like to call it "The Waddle of DOOM"

oh, that was mean

now, if i have my FG though, it's basically a coinflip

FG's make every fight so much more interesting, I have to fire multiple MD rounds to wear him down but he only has to hit me once and it's all over. what would be amusing is 2 forge gunners trying to 1v1 each over

i've done that, quite amusing when we manage to kill eachother at the same time

One of my favourite things about the MD is the travel time for shells, I've lost count of the times that i've gone down and my last shell has gone on to kill the guy who brought me down.

I love going up against mass driver users that shoot all 6 shells at me but fail to drop my 530+ shields

I hate going up against mass driver users that are smart enough to flux me first, and kill me in 2-3 shells

how much hate mail have you gotten for that?

none, maybe it's the suit but it seems i am incapable of generating hatemail I've gotten fanmail for doing logi things but...

every one loves their logipets

from all the nerf threads, it's abudantly clear everyone HATES us heavies though

apart from the odd forge gun thread you seem to receive more pity and sympathy than hate these days

Just gotta get in a quick "youmadbro" this thread kinda got away from me before I could troll it properly

1 climb a ladder
2 find forge gunner
3 ????
4 profit

I'm just way too tired for all of this QQ:

I read the title as "sick of losing prostitutes"...

I was going to say that we call them "Exotic Dancers" in New Eden, but then I reread the title.

On topic...

OP is not entitled to not be killed by anti-vehicular weapons. Forge sniping is hard. If OP is dying to it, he needs to move around more.

It would also help to not wear prostitutes. They are heavy and can slow you down.

I'm just way too tired for all of this QQ:

I read the title as "sick of losing prostitutes"...

I was going to say that we call them "Exotic Dancers" in New Eden, but then I reread the title.

On topic...

OP is not entitled to not be killed by anti-vehicular weapons. Forge sniping is hard. If OP is dying to it, he needs to move around more.

It would also help to not wear prostitutes. They are heavy and can slow you down.

Some shitcock blueberry militia forge gunner picked off my biggest money making prostitute the other night, right off my back.

long overdue for a nerf.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries... these are deaths that just should not happen

In this case it's:

1) Buy dropship
2) crash droship on the slope of the tower top
3) avoid being killed by the four red dots on the roof
4) kill all of them and take out their DU before they come back
5) Profit

There are no ladders and you have to push the flight ceiling to make it onto the slope so you land hard.

Isn't a FG a modified mining tool rather than a rail gun?

I keep reading people claim that it's a rail, but I can't see someone firing a rail into the ground what with all the shrapnel it would cause.

You know you can stomp the red dots with the dropship yes? More fun and hilarious. If the forge gun blows dropship drop out and kill the fatman. Take out uplink and sky dive. Epic.

Cause that TOTALLY sounds like a mining laser....

"Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.GÇÖs proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge times, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it.

Powered by a Gemini microcapacitor, the Forge Gun utilizes a stored electric charge to fire kinetic slugs at speeds in excess of 7,000 m/s, enough to penetrate even augmented armor systems. During the pre-fire charge, the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic field and helping to shield the user from backscatter and the excessive heat produced. Power generation remains the single largest drawback of the current design, the onboard capacitor requiring a significant amount of time to reach full power after each discharge." -source

Cause that TOTALLY sounds like a mining laser....

OP makes thread about militia forge guns, complains about Grimlocks.

2/10.

Seriously though, I don't know why everyone's hiding up in towers and stuff when you can hop in a shield heavy and run around with the rest of the infantry just fine. Learn to time your shots, the tears are far greater when you can dispatch 2-3 guys in a row with successive single shots to the chest. Heavy machine guns are boring and limited, and Scout shotty's have to work the trigger twice as hard for the same effect. These are where the fun's at.

Prospective Forgeristas: Train your proficiency up. You can wreak just as much havoc with the standard assault forge gun once you're skilled, and at a fraction of the price. Close quarters hits will work the same regardless of how much realbux or spacebux you shell out. And don't mess with the normal Forges. You'll end up holding onto that charge and playing defensive with it. The key to the FG is learning the flow of the trigger pulls, being able to fire off successive shots and land hits with almost no misses (saves your ammo for sniping, which is much more unreliable and reliant on splash.)

Keep em' wailing everyone!

Oh, and always remember - your enemies will always look to just about any explanation they can think of before they'll admit that you practiced up and schooled them.

o7

OP makes thread about militia forge guns, complains about Grimlocks.

2/10.

Seriously though, I don't know why everyone's hiding up in towers and stuff when you can hop in a shield heavy and run around with the rest of the infantry just fine. Learn to time your shots, the tears are far greater when you can dispatch 2-3 guys in a row with successive single shots to the chest. Heavy machine guns are boring and limited, and Scout shotty's have to work the trigger twice as hard for the same effect. These are where the fun's at.

Prospective Forgeristas: Train your proficiency up. You can wreak just as much havoc with the standard assault forge gun once you're skilled, and at a fraction of the price. Close quarters hits will work the same regardless of how much realbux or spacebux you shell out. And don't mess with the normal Forges. You'll end up holding onto that charge and playing defensive with it. The key to the FG is learning the flow of the trigger pulls, being able to fire off successive shots and land hits with almost no misses (saves your ammo for sniping, which is much more unreliable and reliant on splash.)

Keep em' wailing everyone!

Oh, and always remember - your enemies will always look to just about any explanation they can think of before they'll admit that you practiced up and schooled them.

o7

Not on the tall towers. Dropships aren't capable of flying high enough to stomp them. If they were I would just have my gunners shoot the fat men. CCP doesn't want the DS to be able to do anything that useful though.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

Heavy doesnt work against proto assault. :(

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

LOL You're joking. Do you see 12 out of 16 of the enemy team spamming forge guns at you? No? Then stop complaining. They changed the swarm launchers because EVERY SINGLE PERSON was using them, and not the way CCP had intended them to be.

Maybe you shouldn't use proto gear. Maybe you also shouldn't force the enemy team back to the redline, thus opening yourself up to being forged by people with cheap gear.

Or you could stay behind your redline and snipe like far too many people do already. How about you stop crying for the heavy class to get another nerf?

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

Well that's what you get for spawn trapping blueberry's

I move around more than a dude tweaking out on methamphetamines, moving or not they still have all day long to line up their shot from the tallest structures in the game.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

First, forge sniping is hard, especially at range. Don't knock it.

Second, you got forge sniped while spawn camping? And you are blaming THEM of using cheap tactics?
Pot->Kettle->Black.

Lastly, countering them is easy. Snipe them, flank them, laser them from behind cover, OB them, etc., etc., etc. If you are using cover properly, it is almost impossible for a forge gun to get a direct hit since the projectile is so large that if it even clips your cover, you won't even take splash damage 90% of the time.

It's not my fault 5-8 blueberries think it's a good idea to spawn in on a CRU with a couple of guys standing around it. still shouldn't be losing suits worth 200k+ to an AV weapon from a mile away.

you're spawn camping blueberries that don't know any better.

anything that happens to you is karma

And I'm teaching them a very important lesson. I bet next game, they won't repeatedly spawn at a CRU with enemies around it.
Karma isn't real. Where's my karma for the milita forge gunner that just wiped my 200k suit from the highest point in the map with an AV weapon?

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

Karma isn't real. Where's my karma for the milita forge gunner that just wiped my 200k suit from the highest point in the map with an AV weapon?

Militia FG are out of place against infantry. They are right now severely underused and depend heavily on KB/M at distance, but 1 shotting on a direct hit with militia forge is too much risk/reward. I have a dire sentinel alt I use to blap people with and it's good fun though very challenging at the same time. Close range are pretty much guaranteed kills as hitting stuff for the OHKO is easy. Militia forge gun splash doesn't kill anything except the worst tanked fits, it's a non issue.

A focused forge gun character, on the other hand, with proto gear should be blapping people on direct contact. This is working as intended to me; risk vs. reward.

How do they get up there, then?

ITT: Non-forge gunners explain how mechanics should be to forge gunners.

On topic: Seriously though, have you tried to forge gun? Then you will realize how hard it is to kill someone with it. We don't get one-hit kills all the time. Most of the time, it's splash damage. If you have a beefed up dropsuit you won't die to 3 splash damage hits to a forge gun.

Besides that, Militia Forges only get 3 shots instead of the standard Forge Gun's 4 shots.

And if you somehow got a shot with a forge gun to DIRECTLY hit a MOVING target at MAXIMUM distance... seriously... even if I'M the one that gets killed like that, I give the guy props.


This. I don't know how many times I have died to snipers because I stood still thinking that I can hit a person or sniper with just one more second...

And the sniper then proves he needs half a second.

Besides, I assume you use the Duvolle. When you upgrade Light Weaponry Sharpshooting what do you upgrade? Out of the current 11 weapons you can choose, 6... read MORE THAN HALF of the weapons benefit from that. What about Heavy Weapon Sharpshooting? Oh that's right: TWO.

YOU'RE SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING PROTOSUITS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PUBSTOMP AND THEN WHEN YOU GET KILLED, YOU COME ON THE FORUMS AND COMPLAIN? HARDEN THE **** UP. STOP USING YOUR PRECIOUS SUITS, DEVISE A STRATEGY, AND COUNTER THE FORGE GUNNERS. NOT THAT HARD.

OH AND YOU THINK I'M RAGING? NO, I'M JUST USING MY ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE TO SHOW YOU HOW LOUDLY I'M DRINKING YOUR TEARS.

GOOD DAY.

i don't know if someone has already posted this but if you don't want to lose a proto suit to a pub scrub then don't wear them in pub matches. problem solved.

Please refrain from using inappropriate language; no matter how hidden within a word you think it is, this is not allowed on the Forums.

Thanks,

Also, I like the fact that when I am running around with a FG blapping infantry, if someone spawns a tank I am ready to go. You can here me shout over comms,"TANKS INBOUND REPAWN WITH ZEE ROCKETS I'M MESSING THEM UP WITH MY RAIL.....**** he got me."

Heavy armor is so slow.

Some shitcock blueberry militia forge gunner picked off my biggest money making prostitute the other night, right off my back.

long overdue for a nerf.

He probably can't pubstomp - without protogear though.

i don't know if someone has already posted this but if you don't want to lose a proto suit to a pub scrub then don't wear them in pub matches. problem solved.

Fixed.


I would have however, the level of brain matter is so low that his logical reasoning skills are clearly inept. He posts in the subject about "unskilled heavies with the militia forge gun" and yet talks about the Grimlock and Assault variants (shoutout), he says they are "impossible to counter" even though he can "turn them into swiss cheese with a duvolle". The Forge Gun is apparently a "one hit kill regardless of how much shields/armor [he is] stacking", but he forgets that "a proto heavy can obtain enough shields and armor to take a direct shot from a militia forge gun and keep on truckin'" (His Own Words!), not to mention the "fact" that he can be hit "miles away" given the Forge Gun only has an effective range of 1500 meters which is a little under a mile. Further proof of lack of mental self-control is illustrated when he gives this example after being killed by a forge gunner: "I first break my controller into dozens of tiny pieces, urinate on my PS3, throw it into the microwave for 5 minutes on HIGH".

In conclusion, in the middle of page 3 he admits that "this game clearly isn't for me" yet he continues on complaining like a spoiled rich kid. Hopefully, the heads SyNergy Gaming will see this as an opportunity to remove a weed that will hold their corporation back. Nothing against constructive criticism, however, when your criticism is not constructive, and is based on a egocentric view of self-indulgence (spawn camping blueberries to get a 6+ KDR), one cannot argue the epitome of such foolishness.

so what's it like spending your time taking a boatload of quotes out of context in a troll thread

> "out of context"
> "troll thread"
Ahahaha! Good one.

By the way, spawn with your prototype suit already. My militia forge gun requires moar of your tears.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

No... This is a troll post.

There's no way someone can talk about how they spawn camp, and yet call OHK from a forge gun unfair.

All of you just got trolled beyond belief.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

I didn't read more than the first page, sounds to me like the OP needs a healthy dose of HTFU.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

So they have an event where all the ambush maps are open and you just want a heavy to pick up a HMG and run to the crater correct?WAHAHAHAHAHA

LOL! It's amazing forge gun has been in use no problem till this event and now that snipers and lasers are getting owned they wanna cry? It's not fun getting shot back at is it wahahahahaha!

Sounds to me like someone got owned and is crying. Were you looking in your sniper scope before you saw the white light lol.

There is nothing wrong with the forge gg CCP!

U lose proto? U mad bro?

Wahahahahahaha!

you act like its easy to aim a forge gun.. haha.

I run a VK1 suit with a duvolle though

are you one of those unskilled heavies who has to sit on top of the tallest towers in the game sniping with a OHKO weapon because you can't aim a real gun?

The lack of youtube references in this thread is disappointing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbcuViGSmGo
look at this garbage heavy sniping infantry with an AV weapon

thanks, CCP.

The lack of youtube references in this thread is disappointing.

Guns don't kill people....

The moral of the story? The forge gun isn't OHK'ing you, it's just the guy using it.

Your quotes are very clearly out of context, for instance, the one about me being able to kill them just fine, that was in regards to being up close, when my thread was addressing forge gun sniping. either you didn't read the thread or intentionally took quotes out of context to attempt to troll me
1/10 got me to press buttons on my keyboard

I run a VK1 suit with a duvolle though

are you one of those unskilled heavies who has to sit on top of the tallest towers in the game sniping with a OHKO weapon because you can't aim a real gun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbcuViGSmGo
look at this garbage heavy sniping infantry with an AV weapon

thanks, CCP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbcuViGSmGo
look at this garbage heavy sniping infantry with an AV weapon

thanks, CCP.

AV weapons should not be able to to shoot at infantry. swarm launchers were adjusted, and now that you have these chucklefucks sitting on top of the tallest towers shooting grimlock/assault forge guns down at infantry..it just shouldn't happen and is literally impossible to counter, especially when they're on a roof where OBs don't register. obviously it shouldn't be a lock on weapon that homes in, it just should only be allowed to be shot at vehicles, installations, etc. and NOT dropsuits.

I can't tell you how many times I was busy spawncamping blueberries, only to suddenly die to a gigglecock militia forge gunner when there wasn't a heavy in sight. these are deaths that just should not happen. the fact you can kill a lot of suits in just two splash damage hits only a few seconds apart from 100+m out isn't right either, there needs to be some form of adjustment on these weapons to prevent an AV weapon from taking out infantry.

you act like its easy to aim a forge gun.. haha.

I run a VK1 suit with a duvolle though

are you one of those unskilled heavies who has to sit on top of the tallest towers in the game sniping with a OHKO weapon because you can't aim a real gun?

So it was a VK1 with Duvolle and u forgot stacked dmg mods didnt you? Anyway I think it's funny a blueberry pwned you with a forge and has you posting on forum all butthurt trying to get forge nerfed when I gurantee u exploiting dmg mod with Duvolle thinking you all pro lol!! Come at me bro and I forge u in the face, better bring your free suit, i'm tired of listening to you whine about losing your proto to a blueberry. Watch the corners though, might find a broadside in your face.............Or maybe I just run over your proto with my lav, sigh , so many options,thanks CCP!!!