You can run an equivalent type-II logi suit that exceeds a scout in all departments except hitbox size. A B-Series Logi shotgun outperforms the same build on a scout drastically. Unless there is new content incoming that will balance the equation, I really don't think this is fair to scout users. They can be so much fun, but the lack of feasible builds, and the steep SP curve for suvivability really kills any incentive to use them.

Indeed, the Scout dropsuit is broken. I think one of the reasons for that is the fact that, despite it's supposed electronic superiority, it has the lowest amount of CPU of any dropsuit.

That doesn't make much sense, now does it?

a cloak would in my opinion ruin the game..

every other game I have played where a cloak for a sniper was available would result in them sitting in corners waiting for unsuspecting visitors.. camping away and then blam, unsuspecting death from an invisible foe, who will more than likely be cloaked again when you return..

in this game you only need one invisible sniper at every capped flag.. then you cant lose.

I dont think its a cloak the scout needs its more module space and better CPU plus faster movement or a much lower profile.

Sorry to tell you but scouts were meant for cloaking. Just read the suit description, its basically already built into the suits.

cloaking is bunk because the stealth mechanisms in this game don't even work good. A heavy can walk up behind a basic suit and go unnoticed...

Unless you've got a couple points into profile analysis and/or have a precision enhancer. Stealth and detection works just fine, you just have to invest a little bit into it.

I've yet to invest any SP into TACNET and scanners have only saved me once or twice. It's honestly not anything useful right now. Until they fix LoS vs Scanners then will it be worth it, but scanners kind of have wimpy range and even when I use them they don't pick up people sometimes...in heavy suits.

If a Heavy manages to "sneak up" on me when I'm playing Scout, it's because I screwed up.

Elaborate on how it would be your fault? Sure it may be your fault for letting a heavy there in the first place, but having the heavy be invisible to radar mere meters behind you is due to slightly faulted mechanics.

I understand more from the new Dev Video Diary that the scout is Light Frame so that means less meat on the bones, I understand that, but paying more for less? That's messed. The fact that a sniper can have their reticule in the general vicinity of where I am and have me show up on Tacnet is what get's my goat.

Elaborate on how it would be your fault?

scan - have trouble picking up 6 guys on the other side of the hill but can spot through buildings across the map with a sniper rifle.. makes sense

so I'm a scout, my main is sitting on 1.94 million unallocated SP to take my lvl 3 scout to proto right now.. just waiting to see if anything changes in the next couple weeks (come on mar12 i'm expecting big things) my alt is sitting on lvl 3

not really sure what I can say about this.. more love for the scout suit would be wonderful. at the same time I dont want to go back to the days of superscouts that you cant hit as they dance the jig

im against the idea of the cloaking module especially one that gets better the longer you sit still as that will just promote more people sitting in the hills doing nothing and make the scout/shotgun build even more prevalent

other suggestions about more slots are useless as we don't have the CPU/PG to run more slots (first skill I maxed was circuitry, I even have shield upgrades to lvl 5 for the extra 3% reduction on shield modules and is sad that it doesnt apply to regulators.. and I am always surprised when someone complains they have to bring circuitry up to lvl 4)

but things that I think should be fixed before they start tweaking the scout
Hit detection - Im a scout bad hit detection benefits me the most and I want it fixed
Stackable damage mods - wth why haven't these been fixed yet
scan - have trouble picking up 6 guys on the other side of the hill but can spot through buildings across the map with a sniper rifle.. makes sense

a cloak would in my opinion ruin the game..

every other game I have played where a cloak for a sniper was available would result in them sitting in corners waiting for unsuspecting visitors.. camping away and then blam, unsuspecting death from an invisible foe, who will more than likely be cloaked again when you return..

in this game you only need one invisible sniper at every capped flag.. then you cant lose.

I dont think its a cloak the scout needs its more module space and better CPU plus faster movement or a much lower profile.

Simple solution to that.

1) Flux Grenades disable electronics, thus disable the cloak.
2) Add a weapon with an infrared scope, or make attachments part of the game and have that as an attachment.

2) Add a weapon with an infrared scope, or make attachments part of the game and have that as an attachment.

God I hope not, that would make snipers even more of a pain.

Well for one I originally suggested it be a unique weapon, in which case it would be no good for sniping. And if they do go the attachment route then it would have only a 1x zoon which would not help snipers at all.

As a primarily heavy player, I think the scouts need strafing speed and generally more mobility. The cloaking sounds like a good idea with this, but I think their real strength could lie in their ability to disengage and engage whenever they need to. Ambush that heavy, strafe down, sprint up and finish him off as your squad mates catch up and catch his attention. I imagine the cloaking would only aid in that for solo scout suits. Engage, flee when they get a bead on you, cloak and watch them go 'Huh? He was here a minute ago.' like those baddies in Metal Gear Solid. Then finish 'em. To me, that would help out a scout greatly. Then I might actually consider playing one.

A scout cloaking in front of me wouldn't make me stop firing and go "WTF!". I'd immediately start cover fire hoping to catch the cloaked scout, or drive them off.

Elaborate on how it would be your fault? Sure it may be your fault for letting a heavy there in the first place, but having the heavy be invisible to radar mere meters behind you is due to slightly faulted mechanics.

I understand more from the new Dev Video Diary that the scout is Light Frame so that means less meat on the bones, I understand that, but paying more for less? That's messed. The fact that a sniper can have their reticule in the general vicinity of where I am and have me show up on Tacnet is what get's my goat.