But I do beat better gear... I just got skills to make it work. unlike these other scrubs here. It just happens every time I run into you Mr. Zitro I am either almost empty on my current magazine or trying to reload.

Anyways I'm poor haven't been able to afford gear above militia.

Also for the record I don't feel as a militia locked character that any weapon is OP. I live long enough against most weapons to seriously hurt the operator, nearly kill them or will kill them. HMGs and Heavies are currently my only bane but if I am taking heavy suits to down to a quarter of their armor in a decent firefight exchange in my militia suit. It then becomes a scenario of situation of who caught who and where followed shortly by who can aim, react, and plan ahead better.

Well Im going back to staying poor at 20k isk and militia gear and continue to prove that militia gear is not 'underpowered'

DUST has two major issues.

1. Too many people use militia gear (Although you might be making money you are drastically reducing your survivability against players using better gear)

2. People don/t know how to build their characters. ( I was playing with a friend of mine earlier and was a bit annoyed he couldn't build his character correctly..) CCP really does need to add an auto skill system for the people who dislike going through menu after menu in order to make their character stronger.


in terms of infantry battle, the only REAL reason as to why people cried things were OP is simply because they run militia gear or they have no idea as to how to fit a character properly. The flattening of not only the weapon damage, but also the dropsuit HP values were completely unwarranted, considering everything was balanced within their specific gear tier as it should have been.

Build after build, this game has devolved into a mindless shooter where people really don't have to think much when in gun battles besides holding down R1 or tapping it w/e it is that people desire. Back in replication, If you wanted to beat better players you had to outsmart them, and force them to battle you on your own terms were you had an advantage.

Gun-game is important, but f you can't build a character both effectively and efficiently you suck in this game. I know plenty of people that have fantastic skills on other games, but they try this one out and can't properly build a character so they suffer for it.

People simply need to learn how to effectively skill characters, or CCP needs to add some preset character paths that can be auto skilled.

If this game continues down the route it's going i'll delete it off my playstation and continue to play Blackops II. This game doesn't need to be another mindless BattlefieldMAGofDuty clone.

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Like with most "competitive" multiplayer games there's always a two week period in which your success at the game is often dictated. Of course, you can pick up the game after that period, but things are substantially more difficult, because people not only have figured out both the maps and which weapons to use. In addition to that two week period DUST has an ongoing arms race. This race forces people to play in order to get better gear. The skillcap was put in place to somewhat alleviate that arms race, and give people that can't play as hard as "no-lifers" a chance to remain somewhat competitive. ( I was one of the few good players in favor of the skill cap seeing as I can't play DUST 24/7 like some other people)

Smart players know how to get to their proto weapons within the first hours of a new build. This allows them to mop the floor with people who are playing in their miltia gear thinking "ohh golly gee i'm dying, but making a profit" Realistically speaking your only doing yourself a disservice by running militia gear . You're drastically lowering your survivability rate, and basically bending over before your opponent.

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ONLY IDIOTS RUN MILTIA GEAR. Use the best gear you have. Chances are you'll perform better in a match. Figure out ways in which you can minimize your losses using your best gear.

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My philosphy and what i think others would agree with is that if a player has "skill" they will be able to specialze the proper core skill needed to compete in those environments inside of a 1-2months which is a short duration of time in an MMO universe. Now in terms of being able to finance the gear, yes the obvious answer is they wont be able to finance it on thier own hence they will need to find a corp. If the player has "skill" then the corp will want to "invest" in them by providing them top gear until they reach a point where the corp can see a "ROI"(return on investment).

What a lot of players seem to want is the ability to compete at the top levels without the necessary investment of time, SP, or ISK. Im saying that shouldnt be in the EVE universe, i think there has to be a time to build your character period during the initial phase of your in game career o/w there is no point in having ANY RPG elements at all.

As these changes occur, the payouts for this current arena we play in need to be reduced dramatically so that even the loss of a single proto suit would be devastating. However the people who can afford it will still show up now and again to pubstomp hence why they should return the gear restriction matches. Or simply make highsec a militia/std restricted zone.

Decent post Gunner.

As I continue to say, this game should be about RISK.

People need to learn to manage risk. What level suit should I bring out this match where I have some highly skilled opponents and I want to see how well I compete? What level fit should I run normally to make ISK but still be effective?

What type of playerbase are we going to have if we get a bunch of people without the attention span to manage to spend enough time and effort to get SP and ISK to get themselves into lowsec and nullsec?

We need people that are at least willing to figure out a build, earn the SP and learn to manage the RISK of making ISK match by match.

If people can't manage that I don't even want them in game. I want this game to be successful for CCP so it stays around but I want a complex deep game that rewards players with MORE than ONLY FPS skill. I want an FPS Eve.

The gear flattening that arose from whining about pubstomps (again the nerfs haven't affected any of the Imperfects KDR, mine has gone up) have led us further from that game.

First half - I agree with completely, RISK is important and people should consider this game as close as poker as possible- but that second half...

IF you want this game to succeed you'd find ways outside of your own world to get a larger player base active and assertive about playing this game. Sometimes that means that your personal bias and opinions get shoved to the side so that a larger group of people can enjoy the game - which is what CCP already stated they wanted.

I did a little cleanup. Please behave guys :)

Wow now I have an Internet mother... But honestly why not talk to some players in game instead of listening to the no name cry babies?

Because people with names are the ones who the community decides - not CCP. If it was up to them then they'd only be asking the programmers among us for our interruption of there ideas and how to work with it - not randoms with no background on anything but gaming. They already know what we randoms want - now they need to know how to work it.

Skill in game means nothing to CCP when it comes to development. Your voice might get an extra 'umph' for knowing how to work your suit - but not much else. I think most of the time they just check for the volume of complaints on certain subjects so they can back-track to see if they made mistakes.

So basically - we're all no name cry babies xD