Spies huh... lol. Saber you do realize we don't have any secrets right? Our website is transparent you don't even have to be logged in to read forum posts or anything. So Saber how close are to to toppling use from with in? I mean seriously its not hard to find our precious secrets.

Now I've never played EVE so I'm not well versed on the subject but I have played many FPS games and have played on a competitive level and I can tell you that the way this new build plays and the direction CCP is taking this game is not good. I had very high hopes for dust but if things continue to fall in line it will be become a mediocre FPS relegated to unskilled gameplay dominated by EVE bankrolled players. I know all the EVE players want this game to be all about the so called "meta game" but if the FPS aspect doesn't improve we will be left with an MMO with mediocre FPS gameplay, played by only by EVE players.

Judging by this thread, they are tryhards who are going to take this game way too seriously.

This coming from someone that played MAG without a problem.

This is Eve, everyone takes it too seriously.

That's right... STB is a cult that decapitates and drinks the blood of small children.

Saber has a serious hard on for STB and needs to find a life.

Seriously these kids that sit behind their computer all day scheming are pretty sad. Spying and trying to cause witch hunts a year before the game even comes out just shows how much of a loser you are. Go outside dude. Watch a movie. Find a girlfriend. Your existence is pretty dismal at this point in time and I feel a little sorry for you.


What does spying accomplish this early in the beta? Oh cool you archived STB forums which are pretty much useless.

sounds just like GOONs!!!!


Again GOON attract hate, good job STB, you are not good, without the hate...



The usual reasons to infiltrate a corporation include hostile politics, greed, and disillusionment

I suggest reason in EvE will be the same so here some examples to get the juices flowing........

The most common greed-based reason to infiltrate a corporation is to establish some measure of trust, and then to abuse that trust to steal anything that isn't locked down. This might be as simple as emptying out a public corp hangar or borrowing a ship blueprint, or it could involve a somewhat more convoluted plan to tackle and kill a ship with valuable modules, as CONCORD will not intervene if members of the same corporation fight each other.

Another common reason is due the loyal player who is frustrated with his corporation (or more typically, his corporate leadership) he may decide to try to help the other side. This can be a bit tricky, since gaining the trust of the people your corporation is fighting; can border on the impossible depending on their level of paranoia. Consistently giving a lot of information to the same person will eventually work, or finding the one responsible for intel, if your information is accurate and leads to the infliction of disastrous losses.

The most common motivation for spying is probably to get better intelligence during wars. Spies want to know about member movements, fleet form-ups, and points of vulnerability. Being able to see a list of people that are online in a given corporation is nice, too, especially if you have

All of this will be relevant with DUST 514 being diffrent but very simillar. If you cannot see this in DUST, open your mind to CCP.

sounds just like GOONs!!!!


Again GOON attract hate, good job STB, you are not good, without the hate...



The usual reasons to infiltrate a corporation include hostile politics, greed, and disillusionment

I suggest reason in EvE will be the same so here some examples to get the juices flowing........

The most common greed-based reason to infiltrate a corporation is to establish some measure of trust, and then to abuse that trust to steal anything that isn't locked down. This might be as simple as emptying out a public corp hangar or borrowing a ship blueprint, or it could involve a somewhat more convoluted plan to tackle and kill a ship with valuable modules, as CONCORD will not intervene if members of the same corporation fight each other.

Another common reason is due the loyal player who is frustrated with his corporation (or more typically, his corporate leadership) he may decide to try to help the other side. This can be a bit tricky, since gaining the trust of the people your corporation is fighting; can border on the impossible depending on their level of paranoia. Consistently giving a lot of information to the same person will eventually work, or finding the one responsible for intel, if your information is accurate and leads to the infliction of disastrous losses.

The most common motivation for spying is probably to get better intelligence during wars. Spies want to know about member movements, fleet form-ups, and points of vulnerability. Being able to see a list of people that are online in a given corporation is nice, too, especially if you have

All of this will be relevant with DUST 514 being diffrent but very simillar. If you cannot see this in DUST, open your mind to CCP.

P.S. Your keyboard SUCKS, please get a new one.

FACT: tigers do not hunt in the Savanna.

Iron,

What you don't understand, is that some people will always stick by their leader, no matter how grim the situation. What makes the world so awesome, is that different people can do things in their own way. Just because Quick doesn't fit your leadership style, doesn't mean that his way of doing things will fail.

Quick obviously knows what he is doing, because he has a very VERY loyal playerbase. As is evidenced by his posts, he is not your normal leader, and well.... some people like it that way. Unorthadox, but man, playing with him is one of the more fun experiances you can have in a FPS. I think you should walk a mile in the man's shoes before you judge him. (cause then your a mile away, and now you have his shoes!)

The EV isn't about pretending to be awesome at a game we havn't played yet.... We take corps as they are, noob corps, pro corps, Corps from EVE looking for a home for their Dust operations free from politics, corps that don't understand how New Eden Works.... and we make them better. Simple.

So, in 5 years, when the EV and STB are still going strong.... all these posts prophesizing our doom will look really silly.

And if we do fall apart as you so expertly claim.... you will be no more of a prophet than those "end of the World" religious nuts, that claim every year that the world ends, hoping one year to be right.

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I look forward to seeing how all the different Corporations, alliances, and organizations, come up with their unique way of dominating Dust. The only people's opinion who matter, are the type of people that don't rely on second hand knowledge, trolls, and gossip for knowledge.

**Edit** : Yes, we are animals that are in an enviropnment we are not accustomed to... because most of us havn't played EVE.... but hey... the game isn't out yet.... there is lots of time to learn! <3

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Well Superman I am trying to help you guys out a bit.

So Ill explain the dinner table and what its about.

The battlefield, for all its complexities and ever changing nature, its very forgiving, you can win you can lose you can come back another day and try again.

The dinnertable is less forgiving. No corp to this day has survived losing at the dinner table.

You and your worst enemy in the world are seated at this dinnertable
No Weapons.
No Touching
No Talking.
How do you kill him?

poison his food. duh?

EV is a community of like minded individuals that have come together.
They have the mindset of unifying Dust mercs

They hope to build a community free of ego banging epens
They hope to build a bond between allaince members that will translate to complete cohesion on the battlefield

They hope to become a finicaily secure entity in New Eden
They conssit of MAG,BF3,EVE,COD,KZ,CS clans an corps

They are a group that maintains loyalty an respect hoping to reflect that ideal on others
They do not hide secrets from anyone member or enemy
They maintian a strict discpline over its members regarding disrespect an dissention

They live by a code of honor over a merc word

EV Quote

"A man live's his day's by his word. A man can only give his word once, After that its value will depend on the man's actions."
" Value your word with pride an be true to what EV stands for, Honor Respect, Truth, Teamwork."

That is who EV is.

I am the Spawning Genome of EV i am in charge of meeting new corps an trying to get them to join our Alliance.

I am a proud loyal follower to the Hivemind

I am the leader of STB an I am a member of EV

o really? shame people dont think that on the game then isnt it? :L when we run together we crush everyone... that makes us pretty useful if the contract involves killing/invading. 1-0, sir. you're move.