Pro? I am one of the worst spies as in the last guy you call into do anything.

IDK whats worse kids talking about being spies in a game or people who initialize there own forum post

sounds just like GOONs!!!!


Again GOON attract hate, good job STB, you are not good, without the hate...



The usual reasons to infiltrate a corporation include hostile politics, greed, and disillusionment

I suggest reason in EvE will be the same so here some examples to get the juices flowing........

The most common greed-based reason to infiltrate a corporation is to establish some measure of trust, and then to abuse that trust to steal anything that isn't locked down. This might be as simple as emptying out a public corp hangar or borrowing a ship blueprint, or it could involve a somewhat more convoluted plan to tackle and kill a ship with valuable modules, as CONCORD will not intervene if members of the same corporation fight each other.

Another common reason is due the loyal player who is frustrated with his corporation (or more typically, his corporate leadership) he may decide to try to help the other side. This can be a bit tricky, since gaining the trust of the people your corporation is fighting; can border on the impossible depending on their level of paranoia. Consistently giving a lot of information to the same person will eventually work, or finding the one responsible for intel, if your information is accurate and leads to the infliction of disastrous losses.

The most common motivation for spying is probably to get better intelligence during wars. Spies want to know about member movements, fleet form-ups, and points of vulnerability. Being able to see a list of people that are online in a given corporation is nice, too, especially if you have

All of this will be relevant with DUST 514 being diffrent but very simillar. If you cannot see this in DUST, open your mind to CCP.

ihave only been playing eve for like 2 weeks lol.. figured i want ed to learn alil about my enemy so i joineed ..up believe me i am aPS3 GAmer which is why im so excited to show cross platform mayhem

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I wish Goons was not the go to "scary entity" for EVE. I'm in TEST, and we are at least as ******** as GSF. I guess we just don't have the same history of forced emergent gameplay.

Isnt arma one of those shooters that one bullet kills you?

Goon income for 1 month (to alliance wallet) is around 1 trillion. It goes up and down, but it's in that area. They can continue the forever war.

Your numbers were for a combined arms nullsec offensive, which is, by all means, what they do now. Goons attack / defend nullsec space. They would not be taking out a trillion to do it, they would be topping up their costs to cover DUST actions, and that is probably the "smaller half" of that figure.

Adding Ground based operations may also net increased profit.... Unless DUst is just an ISK sink to balance large alliances controlling 1/2 of null sec, increaseing cost as size grows....

Which makes sense.... cost should exponentially increase for a business, not be linear.

At least you're bending with the wind a bit, thats good. Also note I am an independent agent and dont have alot of resources at my disposal other than what I have on me. Its not my job to analyze data, just gather and report. Egg heads else where digest what I divulge and turn them into weapons more deadlier than I sometimes imagine.

So.. First we need to look at the very big picture.

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So as of now you can only practice a fraction of the war on the ground, but you need to start fomulating and planning for this phase to come in, see how all the peices fall together understanding that everything you see on the battlefield is the result of a corp spending money there. Biomass? Somone paid for that! Communications? Somone paid for that! MCCs? Somone paid for that! Null Cannons? Somone paid for that! the 100 clones and gear you bring in to take the place? Your corp paid for that. Turst me they're going to fight just as hard to keep it as these things are not cheap and you're going to need a commander to spend his clones warpoints and your isk wisely.

Hey im here for EV. I just can't stand the forums here. Instead of trying to correct problems people would rather argue.

Trading floor warfare is most likely going to remain in Eve hands for a while but understand trading floor warfare is some of the most vicious combat in Eve.

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find strategy is like sales.
the end of the day, if you can sell, you can sell pencils, cell phones, cars insurance.... whatever. Doesn't matter.

If you know strategy...
you can play EVE, hex board games, warhammer, FPS mass players.... doesn't matter.

If you rely on using "strategies" instead of Strategy.... then your going to be in trouble if battlefield/political conditions change. That's why I generally don't pay attention to other people when I'm learning a game, and go in head first, because if you follow the general consensus on how to play a game.... your going to be trumped by people with experiance.

Now if you change the game.....

Anyhoo.

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The next battlefield I like to use the anaology of the dinner table. The spy game is older than guiding hand social club, however GHSC redefined what spying meant in new eden, It was no longer passivly leaking information, its activly seeking destruction of a corporation without using means of trigger pulling. Which is why the dinner table is so appropriate.

You, a stranger who is your worst enemy in the world sitting at the same table in this resturant.
No weapons
No words
No touching
How do you kill him?

The number of ways people come up with is rather staggering, however so are the counter measures. hey may try to poison you, you counter with your antidote, you replaced his drink with an acid, he hired the waiter to swap drinks. the game goes on and its a rather deadly dance and unlike any other battlefield, if he kills you its game over. Its possible to esape wounded or missing an arm but that certainly beats losing at the dinner table entirely. As long as you can get back to the table you should be good to go.

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