Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups?

"But it's a MAGICAL leopluradon!"

Coming from Eve I see spies everywhere. Get your tinfoil hats on. It's going to be a bumpy ride!

In my mind, there are several things a corp/alliance will need to be to sell themselves as mercs.

Quickgloves didn't you say you wanted to group up today?

you didnt write this, its legible you got your own ghostwriter now lolz

If they are so damn scary I look forward to meeting them and have a good time while gaming against them.

I really don't know how they are going to fit 10 000 something awful nerds into 1 lobby with me.

I'm intrigued now.

Can you mention a big mmo that they have ruined?

Star trek lol.

You guys make new eden sound so scary.

I know its a beta. I have 6 mil isk, 2 mil sp and all this by lonewolfing in 3 days of spurts of playing. This is the easiest game I have played as of late.

Screw goonswarm and their budget swarming techniques. War has shown time and time again its not always the numbers that win.

They have never ruined 1 day of my fps gaming and I don't think they going to start now.

Please carry on,a little advice...people can understand you better when you don't have goonswarm ***** in your mouth.

I have no doubts they are extremely good at eve. They have been playing it for ages. I will even say I respect them and if I could make them a single entity I would even let them take john edwards title this year as universes biggest douche. I fear he has had it for several years now and is showing no signs of stopping his terror title run.

I have nothing invested in eve and never will. They are going to have to come to our world if they truly want to ruin my day.

What is going to be funny is 12 adults getting home from work having a few beers and talking **** over a mic while ruining a nerds month worth of preparation because they forgot half of this game is FPS.

If you don't mind me asking quickgloves,how long have you been playing eve for? When I spoke to you over the mic you sounded like a hardcore ps3 gamer.

And yes as being the second worst spy in new eden my advice is third rate and well far behind current methoods. The secuirty advice I give is common sense, and imperfect balance of acceptable risk but its better than the few words and numbers some allaince members of yours require, If you're good with diplomacy you could convice others to show you around a bit let you in on how they operate and the expetections of several envrionments.

There is also piles and piles of allaince corproate hisotries of note, from the most successful empires, to the most abysmal defeats, look them all up becuase history has a nasty habit of repeating itself. Read up on them when time allots itself.

You are all New Eden immigrants, you're moving into a galaxy from the eyes of an immortal soldier, a galaxy which doesnt give a damn who your are and will everything in its power to get rid of you and treats both dust 514 mercs and eve capsuleers with the same level of disregard. The grunts that refuse to belive this do not be holding positions of importance no higher than squad leaders, they would only make the mistakes that destroy the corp doing so. You're much better off getting fresh minded gamers or those who been in eve for a while to take the pisitons up you are going to need as an allaince.

Also if you are trying to form an allaince fix the soul before you fix the skin, most of your grunts express a blatant disregard for things that they cant shoot and think shooting fixes everything. I explained every situation where shooting wont fix it. Indoctrinate them a bit if need so, educate them as since you're thier leader you have thier attention better than I can ever hold it. Make it digestable for them, get them to behave better as well to possible future customers. Calling every eve online pilot an eve tard will attack more war delcaraiotns than contracts and not helpful when you're trying to make friends with capsuleers.

Once the soul is fixed, fix the bone, you're numbers are rather low you need to bring more into the fold, with a proper soul set into place you will attract the players you need, there are some non allaince corps just as large as your allaince and that needs to change to take on the challenges in the small game. Once both soul and bone is fixed the skin should fix itself your advertising will be more precise clean and unbreakable and unquestionable, when you sprout you motto or motif with every layer fixed it will do much more good than harm.

For what i'm assuming is a Highsec pubbie you give a lot of good advice, it would be a lot more fun for us though if you leave them be so we can use their bones to climb on and cement our position in FW and use it as a playground prior to Nullsec being added.

What Corp do you fly with?

He's not embarassing them at all, You'll learn this about 3 months after launch.