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eLAVtor
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:26:00 -
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What is the EV?
n+ëpÇÇn+ïn+àn+àn+ÉpÇÇn+ôn+àn+àn+ën+Än+çpÇÇn+ön+ên+ën+ôpÇÇn+ün+Än+äpÇÇn+ëpÇÇn+ùn+ün+Än+öpÇÇn+ön+ÅpÇÇn+ïn+Än+Ån+ùpÇÇn+ùn+ên+ün+öpÇÇn+ën+öpÇÇn+ën+ôpÇé
n+ôn+Ån+Æn+ÖpÇÇn+ìn+ÖpÇÇn+ïn+àn+Ön+én+Ån+ün+Æn+äpÇÇn+ën+ôpÇÇn+én+àn+ën+Än+çpÇÇn+ùn+àn+ën+Æn+äpÇé |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:27:00 -
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entrophy virus possibly the first allaince in dust 514, and the first allaince to be destroyed. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:29:00 -
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lol not sure about the "first" part, but don't underestimate them. Underestimating enemies usually leads to them sneaking up quietly and surprising you. |
eLAVtor
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:30:00 -
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n+¬n+ôpÇÇn+ön+ên+ën+ôpÇÇn+üpÇÇn+ân+Ån+Æn+ÉpÇÇn+ün+în+în+ën+ün+Än+ân+àpÇÇn+în+ën+ïn+àpÇÇn+ën+ÄpÇÇn+Ñn+¦n+Ñn+ƒpÇÇn+¬n+åpÇÇn+ôn+ÅpÇÇn+ân+ün+ÄpÇÇn+¬have some feedback on how to join a corp because n+¬pÇÇn+ün+ìpÇÇn+Än+àn+ùpÇÇn+ön+ÅpÇÇn+ön+ên+ën+ôpÇÇn+çn+ün+ìn+àpÇépÇÇ |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:37:00 -
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EV is a community of like minded individuals that have come together. They have the mindset of unifying Dust mercs
They hope to build a community free of ego banging epens They hope to build a bond between allaince members that will translate to complete cohesion on the battlefield
They hope to become a finicaily secure entity in New Eden They conssit of MAG,BF3,EVE,COD,KZ,CS clans an corps
They are a group that maintains loyalty an respect hoping to reflect that ideal on others They do not hide secrets from anyone member or enemy They maintian a strict discpline over its members regarding disrespect an dissention
They live by a code of honor over a merc word
EV Quote
"A man live's his day's by his word. A man can only give his word once, After that its value will depend on the man's actions." " Value your word with pride an be true to what EV stands for, Honor Respect, Truth, Teamwork."
That is who EV is.
I am the Spawning Genome of EV i am in charge of meeting new corps an trying to get them to join our Alliance.
I am a proud loyal follower to the Hivemind
I am the leader of STB an I am a member of EV
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:48:00 -
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Its not that I dont doubt thier ability on the battlefield, I doubt thier ability at the dinner tables.
They currently have one corp in there thats sole purpose is to destroy the whole group, and the others where evalutaded at "Widely dispearsed and segregated mindsets goals agendas and conflicting interests."
Agent insertion was ID as far back as a year ago mostly observer types which have been feeding the current infil sabatour agents all the tools they need, mind you these agents are fromidable FPS players themselves so they can blend in and get trusted better.
Currently internal stife is reaching an all time high as they are going on witch hunts which funninly enough is only kicking out thier more legitimate members. Some of the leadership seems to be getting overly paranoid and underestimating the enimies inside thier house and thier intentions. For the longest time they though spies where there to 'discover' secrets. Hes finding out the hard way that spies care nothing for thier useless secrets and seek only one thing from EV.
Either way the situation last time I read it looks like it just hit critical mass. There is no going back now.
Some individuals however been showing they're willing to play the meta game but being a year behind on arsenel and lack of any counter intel program of thier own is going to doom the allaince regardless.
And quick gloves you nailed the wrong guy the other day and he was the only person who had a bats chance in hell in finding who I am in your corp. |
eLAVtor
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:53:00 -
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Ok so ev is an alliance. I have looked into a few different alliances like rofl and zion, why would I join ev over the other ones? Btw idk what this spy drama is about I just want to play with a mature group, im not into this childish crap. |
SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.08.21 13:56:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:EV is a community of like minded individuals that have come together. They have the mindset of unifying Dust mercs
They hope to build a community free of ego banging epens They hope to build a bond between allaince members that will translate to complete cohesion on the battlefield
They hope to become a finicaily secure entity in New Eden They conssit of MAG,BF3,EVE,COD,KZ,CS clans an corps
They are a group that maintains loyalty an respect hoping to reflect that ideal on others They do not hide secrets from anyone member or enemy They maintian a strict discpline over its members regarding disrespect an dissention
They live by a code of honor over a merc word
EV Quote
"A man live's his day's by his word. A man can only give his word once, After that its value will depend on the man's actions." " Value your word with pride an be true to what EV stands for, Honor Respect, Truth, Teamwork."
That is who EV is.
I am the Spawning Genome of EV i am in charge of meeting new corps an trying to get them to join our Alliance.
I am a proud loyal follower to the Hivemind
I am the leader of STB an I am a member of EV
Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups? |
Zalifer Nakamoda
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:01:00 -
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"The entropy virus was the first attempt at a professional mercenary service in Dust 514. The concept was that EV would have on reserve many groups of mercenaries, and clients could hire mercs according to their requirements.
However, due to over complicating everything with virus themes, role play, and a general lack of large numbers, the entropy virus faded away shortly after the release of DUST 514. The were defeated on a number of occasions early in the games life cycle, which caused many people to lose what little faith and interest they had.
They were also unable to manage against existing EVE alliances large numbers and orbital support. Large mercenary corporations would manage to get a footing in the mercenary marketplace, but not until they had tried and tested mercs, and a large amount of experience. These corps were often offshoots of EVE alliances themselves, as they had much of the logistics already in place to support their mercs."
There, now I can just copy and paste when the wiki is ready for that information :D |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:11:00 -
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^ this is accurate |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:12:00 -
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Dont worry about it tbh
Looked like a good idea, but only ever looked good |
Arbor Viridanus
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:13:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups?
STB is a corporation, EV is an alliance of corporations.
It sounds like they have a fairly serious spy problem at the moment, and they're having difficulty getting rid of it. |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:28:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:EV is a community of like minded individuals that have come together. They have the mindset of unifying Dust mercs
They hope to build a community free of ego banging epens They hope to build a bond between allaince members that will translate to complete cohesion on the battlefield
They hope to become a finicaily secure entity in New Eden They conssit of MAG,BF3,EVE,COD,KZ,CS clans an corps
They are a group that maintains loyalty an respect hoping to reflect that ideal on others They do not hide secrets from anyone member or enemy They maintian a strict discpline over its members regarding disrespect an dissention
They live by a code of honor over a merc word
EV Quote
"A man live's his day's by his word. A man can only give his word once, After that its value will depend on the man's actions." " Value your word with pride an be true to what EV stands for, Honor Respect, Truth, Teamwork."
That is who EV is.
I am the Spawning Genome of EV i am in charge of meeting new corps an trying to get them to join our Alliance.
I am a proud loyal follower to the Hivemind
I am the leader of STB an I am a member of EV
Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups?
I am STB an my loyalty resides in EV .. ps ironwolf its dead pool we stop taking bets on who you are ../. mainly casue we dont care an i never kicked anyone niether has EV..all the jargain that has been bloged about us is fabricated... This is the first formal post be an EV member today the post i made |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:31:00 -
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Arbor Viridanus wrote:SoLJae wrote:Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups? STB is a corporation, EV is an alliance of corporations. It sounds like they have a fairly serious spy problem at the moment, and they're having difficulty getting rid of it.
Its halariously bad...
And if they think that knowing certain names of people even first name basis is enough to pass the 'ohkay your not a spai' test they're sadly mistaken since there is a nice little phamplet floating around with these names on them already. Which means the people who are purposly failing it have alterior motives. |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:38:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:SoLJae wrote:STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:EV is a community of like minded individuals that have come together. They have the mindset of unifying Dust mercs
They hope to build a community free of ego banging epens They hope to build a bond between allaince members that will translate to complete cohesion on the battlefield
They hope to become a finicaily secure entity in New Eden They conssit of MAG,BF3,EVE,COD,KZ,CS clans an corps
They are a group that maintains loyalty an respect hoping to reflect that ideal on others They do not hide secrets from anyone member or enemy They maintian a strict discpline over its members regarding disrespect an dissention
They live by a code of honor over a merc word
EV Quote
"A man live's his day's by his word. A man can only give his word once, After that its value will depend on the man's actions." " Value your word with pride an be true to what EV stands for, Honor Respect, Truth, Teamwork."
That is who EV is.
I am the Spawning Genome of EV i am in charge of meeting new corps an trying to get them to join our Alliance.
I am a proud loyal follower to the Hivemind
I am the leader of STB an I am a member of EV
Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups? I am STB an my loyalty resides in EV .. ps ironwolf its dead pool we stop taking bets on who you are ../. mainly casue we dont care an i never kicked anyone niether has EV..all the jargain that has been bloged about us is fabricated... This is the first formal post be an EV member today the post i made
The only thing fabricated is every other word you type.....First it was offering 1 million ISK for people to join STB (cheap as hell, BTW) and then it was "EV is a tribute to the corp founder" and nothing to do with an alliance. Then you start a recruitment thread on the beta forums /facepalm.
So much fail....in so little time
I wish you luck though! Way to keep it real
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SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:39:00 -
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Arbor Viridanus wrote:SoLJae wrote:Does EV trump STB, or vice -versa........where does your loyalty side with in the end, as EV sounds more like a collection of corps/groups? STB is a corporation, EV is an alliance of corporations. It sounds like they have a fairly serious spy problem at the moment, and they're having difficulty getting rid of it.
Right, I understand that, one is a group and the other is an even bigger group. If push came to shove and disagreements evolved to the point where EV's goals conflicted with STB's goals, who would the leader of STB side with.
I guess according to Quikgloves, he is most loyal to EV and they pull the strings. I mistakenly assumed that STB was more of a stand alone corp and not beholden to some larger conglomerate.
.......very interesting indeed. |
Korey Sangrenta
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:40:00 -
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eLAVtor wrote:Ok so ev is an alliance. I have looked into a few different alliances like rofl and zion, why would I join ev over the other ones? Btw idk what this spy drama is about I just want to play with a mature group, im not into this childish crap.
Hey man not to burst your bubble or anything but come release we will be thrust into new Eden head first and for those of you who don't know this let me give you some advice. One of the largest alliances in eve history was brought down by the same childish crap your not into. Where we're headed it's common place to see paranoia rampant and denied entry into a corporation just because your friends with someone in another alliance and in there eyes that makes you a spy.
Long story short the "childish crap" is part of eve so it's part of new Eden so therefore it's part of dust
Prepare yourselves accordingly |
STB-Snyped EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:49:00 -
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guess whos back ;)
of course EV is always going to have issues and people being childish with this spy bullshit etc, it comes with the rep we have across different games and the fact that we're one of the first to put ourselves out there on the corp/alliance map.
Lifes been a ***** and i've been inactive to the point where my ps3 has collected dust [not the game] ;) in it... however i'm back and ready [sorta] to crush the EU server again :3 |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:58:00 -
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Except the current rep has an equivalent reputation to a diseased ridden slave, I mean who would want to join an allaince infested with spies?
Also leadership has been getting rather ugly lately snapping at the littelist thing and firing thier loyalists. |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:03:00 -
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So heres how it is Saber wolf is not friendly towards EV or STB so he trolls our tthreads
EV is not infested with anything other then loyal die hards so ty for the publicity an we shall SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN THEM CHARLIE SHUUUUUUUUUNUUNNNNNNNN |
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STB-Snyped EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:03:00 -
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i'll look into it |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:05:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:So heres how it is Saber wolf is not friendly towards EV or STB so he trolls our tthreads
EV is not infested with anything other then loyal die hards so ty for the publicity an we shall SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN THEM CHARLIE SHUUUUUUUUUNUUNNNNNNNN
I been actually trying to help but your paranioa is going to kill your corp. Also this behavior right here is not going to get you hired by eve corps. They're going to shop elsewhere.
Worse for you is even though I am in the corp spying, I am not invoking anything just watching things fall apart slowly. Its like watching wild animals behaving in a habitat that isnt natural to them its not as exilerating as watching tigers in the savanna but more like sloths in the desert. |
STB-Snyped EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:13:00 -
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so your spying i see... perhaps you should find something better to do with your time? your social status/situation is obviously weak if you resort to spying on a game? not hating just stating. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
43
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:27:00 -
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Well it's a good thing I spy back. Er.... I mean kittens. |
TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:29:00 -
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Elavator ev is not about spying. We are serious gamers who are unfortunately bombarded by trolls. I am an officer of Gravity, a corp in ev. DOB is a corp in ev that is 18+ and promotes a mature gaming enviornment. Iron wolf it seems thatyou have too much time on your hands. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:35:00 -
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STB-Snyped EV wrote:so your spying i see... perhaps you should find something better to do with your time? your social status/situation is obviously weak if you resort to spying on a game? not hating just stating.
And miss out on a fat isk payout? rather let you guys do all the hard work and reap in the rewards when time is right. Also selling the information now as made my eve alt rich.
BTW anyone dared bothered doing a gear check on my character and find it odd I am still using milita gear :P |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
904
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Posted - 2012.08.21 15:36:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:So heres how it is Saber wolf is not friendly towards EV or STB so he trolls our tthreads
EV is not infested with anything other then loyal die hards so ty for the publicity an we shall SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN THEM CHARLIE SHUUUUUUUUUNUUNNNNNNNN
"But it's a MAGICAL leopluradon!"
Coming from Eve I see spies everywhere. Get your tinfoil hats on. It's going to be a bumpy ride! |
Zalifer Nakamoda
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:09:00 -
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In my mind, there are several things a corp/alliance will need to be to sell themselves as mercs.
Quote: 1) Reputable
They need to be 100% trusted. People don't want to risk paying money to people who will flip sides if the money is better
2) Professional
People also need to know that if they don't keep paying, they will lose their services. If A is paying them to kill B, and A stop paying, they will happily work for B if they want them to. That's the deal. You pay, they play.
3) Effective
They will of course need to be worth paying. They will need plenty of mercs, with the right mix of specialisations, both in SP, and player skill. People need to know that when they pay them 500,000,000 ISK for a planet capture, they will get the damn thing captured. Win rate will be important.
This also means that for top tier merc groups, they will need to have EVE players, because orbital bombardment will be important. Maybe the client can serve as the support for some conflicts, but people will pay more to have you do it 100%, if you can, and that means more profit.
4) Not infested with spies.
If I have a secret plan to capture planets from someone, last thing I want is for them to know the plans before the attack, letting them get their mercs ready to defend. Maybe even letting them know what we plan to attack with, so that they have the exact counter ready.
You may say this is "childish", but that's a mistake. In New Eden, spies can make or break a fight. When we are in fleet fights, we often have people in the other fleet, sending us info and plans from the enemy. This means we are ready for what they have, what they are doing, and can even be where they are going to be before them sometimes.
New Eden will be affected by spies, in the black, or on the ground, whether you think it is "childish" or not.
5) Simple to deal with
They will need to have a good team managing contracts, PR, relationships, logistics, and intel.
A merc group lives and dies by it's contracts. Sometimes, jobs will come in with fast turn around time. They will need people to create and agree to contracts, and get the assets on the ground in time for it to matter.
They will need people to manage all the people they know, and offer contracts to them, if they see the might need some help. They will need to manage intel, knowing who is fighting who, and what is going to be the next big conflict area.
All of this will require interaction with outside entities. Complicating things with "spawning genome" is just making things more complicated than they need to be. If you say "recruitment officer" people know what you are talking about.
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STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:44:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:So heres how it is Saber wolf is not friendly towards EV or STB so he trolls our tthreads
EV is not infested with anything other then loyal die hards so ty for the publicity an we shall SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN THEM CHARLIE SHUUUUUUUUUNUUNNNNNNNN "But it's a MAGICAL leopluradon!" Coming from Eve I see spies everywhere. Get your tinfoil hats on. It's going to be a bumpy ride!
THOSE SPIES STOLE MY KIDNEY WHILE IWAS NAPPIN! |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:47:00 -
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Zalifer Nakamoda wrote:In my mind, there are several things a corp/alliance will need to be to sell themselves as mercs. Quote: 1) Reputable
They need to be 100% trusted. People don't want to risk paying money to people who will flip sides if the money is better
2) Professional
People also need to know that if they don't keep paying, they will lose their services. If A is paying them to kill B, and A stop paying, they will happily work for B if they want them to. That's the deal. You pay, they play.
3) Effective
They will of course need to be worth paying. They will need plenty of mercs, with the right mix of specialisations, both in SP, and player skill. People need to know that when they pay them 500,000,000 ISK for a planet capture, they will get the damn thing captured. Win rate will be important.
This also means that for top tier merc groups, they will need to have EVE players, because orbital bombardment will be important. Maybe the client can serve as the support for some conflicts, but people will pay more to have you do it 100%, if you can, and that means more profit.
4) Not infested with spies.
If I have a secret plan to capture planets from someone, last thing I want is for them to know the plans before the attack, letting them get their mercs ready to defend. Maybe even letting them know what we plan to attack with, so that they have the exact counter ready.
You may say this is "childish", but that's a mistake. In New Eden, spies can make or break a fight. When we are in fleet fights, we often have people in the other fleet, sending us info and plans from the enemy. This means we are ready for what they have, what they are doing, and can even be where they are going to be before them sometimes.
New Eden will be affected by spies, in the black, or on the ground, whether you think it is "childish" or not.
5) Simple to deal with
They will need to have a good team managing contracts, PR, relationships, logistics, and intel.
A merc group lives and dies by it's contracts. Sometimes, jobs will come in with fast turn around time. They will need people to create and agree to contracts, and get the assets on the ground in time for it to matter.
They will need people to manage all the people they know, and offer contracts to them, if they see the might need some help. They will need to manage intel, knowing who is fighting who, and what is going to be the next big conflict area.
All of this will require interaction with outside entities. Complicating things with "spawning genome" is just making things more complicated than they need to be. If you say "recruitment officer" people know what you are talking about.
This is my point i am not a recruitment officer for EV i have a specfied postion we have titled as spawning genome it holds foundation in are organization to misunderstand it is expect we have as i stated developed somthing in EV that is differnt an all of these people trolling do so casue they actually have no clue wat is goin on! lol iron says he is watching us fall apart lol .. he reminds me of a nathanel hawthorne .. fiction horror drama .. i hope hes a jounralist major or mayb a lawyer?? hmmm |
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