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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:50:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:Zalifer Nakamoda wrote:In my mind, there are several things a corp/alliance will need to be to sell themselves as mercs. Quote: 1) Reputable
They need to be 100% trusted. People don't want to risk paying money to people who will flip sides if the money is better
2) Professional
People also need to know that if they don't keep paying, they will lose their services. If A is paying them to kill B, and A stop paying, they will happily work for B if they want them to. That's the deal. You pay, they play.
3) Effective
They will of course need to be worth paying. They will need plenty of mercs, with the right mix of specialisations, both in SP, and player skill. People need to know that when they pay them 500,000,000 ISK for a planet capture, they will get the damn thing captured. Win rate will be important.
This also means that for top tier merc groups, they will need to have EVE players, because orbital bombardment will be important. Maybe the client can serve as the support for some conflicts, but people will pay more to have you do it 100%, if you can, and that means more profit.
4) Not infested with spies.
If I have a secret plan to capture planets from someone, last thing I want is for them to know the plans before the attack, letting them get their mercs ready to defend. Maybe even letting them know what we plan to attack with, so that they have the exact counter ready.
You may say this is "childish", but that's a mistake. In New Eden, spies can make or break a fight. When we are in fleet fights, we often have people in the other fleet, sending us info and plans from the enemy. This means we are ready for what they have, what they are doing, and can even be where they are going to be before them sometimes.
New Eden will be affected by spies, in the black, or on the ground, whether you think it is "childish" or not.
5) Simple to deal with
They will need to have a good team managing contracts, PR, relationships, logistics, and intel.
A merc group lives and dies by it's contracts. Sometimes, jobs will come in with fast turn around time. They will need people to create and agree to contracts, and get the assets on the ground in time for it to matter.
They will need people to manage all the people they know, and offer contracts to them, if they see the might need some help. They will need to manage intel, knowing who is fighting who, and what is going to be the next big conflict area.
All of this will require interaction with outside entities. Complicating things with "spawning genome" is just making things more complicated than they need to be. If you say "recruitment officer" people know what you are talking about.
Didn't you say you wanted to group up today? This is my point i am not a recruitment officer for EV i have a specfied postion we have titled as spawning genome it holds foundation in are organization to misunderstand it is expect we have as i stated developed somthing in EV that is differnt an all of these people trolling do so casue they actually have no clue wat is goin on! lol iron says he is watching us fall apart lol .. he reminds me of a nathanel hawthorne .. fiction horror drama .. i hope hes a jounralist major or mayb a lawyer?? hmmm
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STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:52:00 -
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Quickgloves didn't you say you wanted to group up today? |
STB-Quickgloves EV
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
527
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:53:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Quickgloves didn't you say you wanted to group up today?
im online now |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.08.21 16:54:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Quickgloves didn't you say you wanted to group up today? im online now
Send me a invite |
Kessler McGrath
5
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Posted - 2012.08.21 17:32:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Quickgloves didn't you say you wanted to group up today? im online now
Kitten it man! While waiting for you I've had time to revise 3 of my fits and create 2 more. |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2012.08.21 17:37:00 -
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EV will try to infect EVE but there are many vaccines for a virus and soon they will be destroyed and EVE will be rid of an infection
and its funny that they chose to be a virus for another term for a virus is a BUG and like its insect counter part they will be squashed under the heel of an alliance |
Kessler McGrath
5
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Posted - 2012.08.21 17:40:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:EV will try to infect EVE but there are many vaccines for a virus and soon they will be destroyed and EVE will be rid of an infection and its funny that they chose to be a virus for another term for a virus is a BUG and like its insect counter part they will be squashed under the heel of an alliance
You forget. There is no way to permanently stop a strong enough virus. A large enough outbreak of Ebola could send us back to the stone age or destroy humanity completely |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.21 17:46:00 -
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Quickgloves, honest advice to you from an old Valor player. Let your guys post. You have a natural ability to sound like a tit on forums. YOU saying it's a mature gaming group with no chest beating just made me LoL. Be the good old chest beating KDR is king STB. I mean, when you get drunk and racial on mic, you're going to burn people.
This mature thing... It's just not you. Don't pretend to be what you aren't.
@Iron Wolf They only need to do a clan battle on MAG. You'd stick out like a sore thumb. I might make good security officer. If I could be bothered to not shoot face all the time. |
Zalifer Nakamoda
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2012.08.21 17:56:00 -
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I'm in TEST and test is a dinosaur and dinosaurs are extinct so that means that we don't exist so we are not the alliance holding the most space.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/systems
Pro tip to EV members.
Stop all this "Virus" stuff. First, it's been done before. Pandemic Legion got you covered. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Pandemic_Legion They are mercs in EVE online, and have been for a long time. I would even go so far as to suggest a name change, as people are going to assume you are trying to imitate them (mercs as a virus).
Secondly, no person who wants mercs, is going to turn to people who act like 16 year olds trying to be part of some elite secret club. The people who matter in EVE are leaders of 4 - 10 thousand people alliances. Your theme will make you only appear impressive to other people who are equally brain dead. Any large contracts will, like real life, go to the people who are professional, and effective. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.08.21 18:13:00 -
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I always thought the "Virus" roleplay was dumb and overly confusing. Its not a virus its a freakin alliance. It reminded me of when I would play tag in 5th grade and say "i am the germ if I tag you your another germ" and my friends and i would play until last one standing.
In other words, EV's overall maturity level seems about the level of elementary school playground games. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 18:38:00 -
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theschizogenious wrote:EV will try to infect EVE but there are many vaccines for a virus and soon they will be destroyed and EVE will be rid of an infection and its funny that they chose to be a virus for another term for a virus is a BUG and like its insect counter part they will be squashed under the heel of an alliance
There is no way they can get into other groups at this current stage majority of the members are comprimised, if they do manage to 'easily' infiltrate any major allaince its to feed them bad intel. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 18:40:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Quickgloves, honest advice to you from an old Valor player. Let your guys post. You have a natural ability to sound like a tit on forums. YOU saying it's a mature gaming group with no chest beating just made me LoL. Be the good old chest beating KDR is king STB. I mean, when you get drunk and racial on mic, you're going to burn people.
This mature thing... It's just not you. Don't pretend to be what you aren't.
@Iron Wolf They only need to do a clan battle on MAG. You'd stick out like a sore thumb. I might make good security officer. If I could be bothered to not shoot face all the time.
I know just the game is really hard to pretend to be good in these days with albit lower than launch population luckily they havent bothered to notice that either. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:02:00 -
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STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:So heres how it is Saber wolf is not friendly towards EV or STB so he trolls our tthreads
EV is not infested with anything other then loyal die hards so ty for the publicity an we shall SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN THEM CHARLIE SHUUUUUUUUUNUUNNNNNNNN LOL
You haven't figured out that saber is someone in STB? That or there are no spies and this is just a plan to make you paranoid. What most people don't know is that there isn't much to spy on in STB. A bunch of people getting drunk and shooting people. You are not going to hear any of their political plans or tactics ect ect. You have to be a legit STB cult member to get in on any of that info. There is already to many officers in STB as it is. So good luck getting promoted. You are wasting your time.
That's right... STB is a cult that decapitates and drinks the blood of small children.
Saber has a serious hard on for STB and needs to find a life. Seriously these kids that sit behind their computer all day scheming are pretty sad. Spying and trying to cause witch hunts a year before the game even comes out just shows how much of a loser you are. Go outside dude. Watch a movie. Find a girlfriend. Your existence is pretty dismal at this point in time and I feel a little sorry for you.
What does spying accomplish this early in the beta? Oh cool you archived STB forums which are pretty much useless. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:06:00 -
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And thats where you are also wrong crimson, not my target at all.
Also with computers you have no idea how automated the stuff is these days.
Also the plan is pretty simple it was fomulated years ago against a similar profiled corproation in eve and it has worked in ever repeat scenario since then. All you have to do is insert and poke every so often it all comes apart.
They're definetly not a cult or cut out to be in one. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And thats where you are also wrong crimson, not my target at all. I don't care what your target is. You are a sad strange little man. As I said go say hi to the sun. Your existence is dismal. The game still doesn't come out for another year. Have fun spying on a bunch drunks for the next year. I really do feel sorry for how sad your existence is.
Get good at real life. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:17:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And thats where you are also wrong crimson, not my target at all. I don't care what your target is. You are a sad strange little man. As I said go say hi to the sun. Your existence is dismal.
And you sumarised that from me trying to help STB with thier spy problem? How is this any better than those who work really hard to increase thier KD/R practice how to perfectlly arc that grenade launch the spin jump snipe to the head no scope of doom and survive? Or the math biolers that melt down all the weapon stats into that 'perfect' build. Then the guys who all they do is try to build excel sheets all day or attest by them in helping out in the same manner? |
Forte Haulerson
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:17:00 -
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Looks like the MAG-ites are getting a taste of pro level meta-gaming... :) EVE pilots, corporations, and alliances are the best in the world at it...
As far as it effectiveness this early in the beta is concerned...it's never too early.... alliances and corporation leadership in EVE will sometimes allow years to go by before exposing their master plan... can you say..
"Oh S**t! It's a trap!!!!"
Cheers mercs!
L8r, FH
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:19:00 -
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Forte Haulerson wrote:Looks like the MAG-ites are getting a taste of pro level meta-gaming... :) EVE pilots, corporations, and alliances are the best in the world at it...
As far as it effectiveness this early in the beta is concerned...it's never too early.... alliances and corporation leadership in EVE will sometimes allow years to go by before exposing their master plan... can you say..
"Oh S**t! It's a trap!!!!"
Cheers mercs!
L8r, FH
Pro? I am one of the worst spies as in the last guy you call into do anything. |
Forte Haulerson
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Forte Haulerson wrote:Looks like the MAG-ites are getting a taste of pro level meta-gaming... :) EVE pilots, corporations, and alliances are the best in the world at it...
As far as it effectiveness this early in the beta is concerned...it's never too early.... alliances and corporation leadership in EVE will sometimes allow years to go by before exposing their master plan... can you say..
"Oh S**t! It's a trap!!!!"
Cheers mercs!
L8r, FH
Pro? I am one of the worst spies as in the last guy you call into do anything.
Don't take this personally, but I wasn't just referring to you.. but the community in general. You just happen to be on stage atm.. :)
L8r, FH.. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:36:00 -
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eLAVtor wrote:n+¬n+ôpÇÇn+ön+ên+ën+ôpÇÇn+üpÇÇn+ân+Ån+Æn+ÉpÇÇn+ün+în+în+ën+ün+Än+ân+àpÇÇn+în+ën+ïn+àpÇÇn+ën+ÄpÇÇn+Ñn+¦n+Ñn+ƒpÇÇn+¬n+åpÇÇn+ôn+ÅpÇÇn+ân+ün+ÄpÇÇn+¬have some feedback on how to join a corp because n+¬pÇÇn+ün+ìpÇÇn+Än+àn+ùpÇÇn+ön+ÅpÇÇn+ön+ên+ën+ôpÇÇn+çn+ün+ìn+àpÇépÇÇ
Do you want to roll with us today? We're not yet officially an alliance or corp.. but we have EVE members and basically a Motley Crew of different misfits and stragglers.. The only requirement is you use a mic, and be mature and follow some basic orders that keep everyone alive. We can put you on a squad and see if you match our style..
we dont have anything for you to infiltrate we're just some guys who use the game comms and have each other on our contacts.. |
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Smokey Killer51
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:38:00 -
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eLAVtor wrote:What is the EV?
n+ëpÇÇn+ïn+àn+àn+ÉpÇÇn+ôn+àn+àn+ën+Än+çpÇÇn+ön+ên+ën+ôpÇÇn+ün+Än+äpÇÇn+ëpÇÇn+ùn+ün+Än+öpÇÇn+ön+ÅpÇÇn+ïn+Än+Ån+ùpÇÇn+ùn+ên+ün+öpÇÇn+ën+öpÇÇn+ën+ôpÇé
n+ôn+Ån+Æn+ÖpÇÇn+ìn+ÖpÇÇn+ïn+àn+Ön+én+Ån+ün+Æn+äpÇÇn+ën+ôpÇÇn+én+àn+ën+Än+çpÇÇn+ùn+àn+ën+Æn+äpÇé THINK ITS YOUR SETTINGS NOT YOURE KEYBOARD... SORRY IM JUST TO LAZY TO TURN CAPS LOCK OFF :D |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And thats where you are also wrong crimson, not my target at all. I don't care what your target is. You are a sad strange little man. As I said go say hi to the sun. Your existence is dismal. And you sumarised that from me trying to help STB with thier spy problem? You are not trying to help.
You are the spy and you are trying to cause turmoil and paranoia within the clan.
You are a sad individual. Have fun being the sokis *****. |
St Evilsbitch
HavoK Core
4
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:STB-Quickgloves EV wrote:So heres how it is Saber wolf is not friendly towards EV or STB so he trolls our tthreads
EV is not infested with anything other then loyal die hards so ty for the publicity an we shall SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN SHUN THE NON BELIEVERS SHUN THEM CHARLIE SHUUUUUUUUUNUUNNNNNNNN I been actually trying to help but your paranioa is going to kill your corp. Also this behavior right here is not going to get you hired by eve corps. They're going to shop elsewhere. Worse for you is even though I am in the corp spying, I am not invoking anything just watching things fall apart slowly. Its like watching wild animals behaving in a habitat that isnt natural to them its not as exilerating as watching tigers in the savanna but more like sloths in the desert.
FACT: tigers do not hunt in the Savanna. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:22:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And thats where you are also wrong crimson, not my target at all. I don't care what your target is. You are a sad strange little man. As I said go say hi to the sun. Your existence is dismal. And you sumarised that from me trying to help STB with thier spy problem? You are not trying to help. You are the spy and you are trying to cause turmoil and paranoia within the clan. You are a sad individual. Have fun being the sokis *****.
I am not thee spy I am a spy.
Also I am not the kind that causes turmoil. |
ReGnUm GETsWASTED onCCP
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its not that I dont doubt thier ability on the battlefield, I doubt thier ability at the dinner tables.
They currently have one corp in there thats sole purpose is to destroy the whole group, and the others where evalutaded at "Widely dispearsed and segregated mindsets goals agendas and conflicting interests."
Agent insertion was ID as far back as a year ago mostly observer types which have been feeding the current infil sabatour agents all the tools they need, mind you these agents are fromidable FPS players themselves so they can blend in and get trusted better.
Currently internal stife is reaching an all time high as they are going on witch hunts which funninly enough is only kicking out thier more legitimate members. Some of the leadership seems to be getting overly paranoid and underestimating the enimies inside thier house and thier intentions. For the longest time they though spies where there to 'discover' secrets. Hes finding out the hard way that spies care nothing for thier useless secrets and seek only one thing from EV.
Either way the situation last time I read it looks like it just hit critical mass. There is no going back now.
Some individuals however been showing they're willing to play the meta game but being a year behind on arsenel and lack of any counter intel program of thier own is going to doom the allaince regardless.
And quick gloves you nailed the wrong guy the other day and he was the only person who had a bats chance in hell in finding who I am in your corp.
NERD ALERT NERD ALERT NERD ALERT We need a empty locker and a high school Jock ASAP
NERD ALERT |
ReGnUm GETsWASTED onCCP
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:27:00 -
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Forte Haulerson wrote:Looks like the MAG-ites are getting a taste of pro level meta-gaming... :) EVE pilots, corporations, and alliances are the best in the world at it...
As far as it effectiveness this early in the beta is concerned...it's never too early.... alliances and corporation leadership in EVE will sometimes allow years to go by before exposing their master plan... can you say..
"Oh S**t! It's a trap!!!!"
Cheers mercs!
L8r, FH
IDK whats worse kids talking about being spies in a game or people who initialize there own forum post
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Forte Haulerson
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:57:00 -
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ReGnUm GETsWASTED onCCP wrote:Forte Haulerson wrote:Looks like the MAG-ites are getting a taste of pro level meta-gaming... :) EVE pilots, corporations, and alliances are the best in the world at it...
As far as it effectiveness this early in the beta is concerned...it's never too early.... alliances and corporation leadership in EVE will sometimes allow years to go by before exposing their master plan... can you say..
"Oh S**t! It's a trap!!!!"
Cheers mercs!
L8r, FH
IDK whats worse kids talking about being spies in a game or people who initialize there own forum post
A coupla' things...
1). Meta gaming is not just about spies.... 2). Not sure why you felt to call this post out specifically... Did I touch a nerve? Check your ego at the door mate...
L8r, FH |
TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.21 21:00:00 -
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ReGnUm GETsWASTED onCCP wrote:Forte Haulerson wrote:Looks like the MAG-ites are getting a taste of pro level meta-gaming... :) EVE pilots, corporations, and alliances are the best in the world at it...
As far as it effectiveness this early in the beta is concerned...it's never too early.... alliances and corporation leadership in EVE will sometimes allow years to go by before exposing their master plan... can you say..
"Oh S**t! It's a trap!!!!"
Cheers mercs!
L8r, FH
IDK whats worse kids talking about being spies in a game or people who initialize there own forum post
actually you're the worst lol you have more sock puppets than anyone, enjoy this moment of attention it will be the last time i feed your troll |
Ayures II
33
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Posted - 2012.08.21 21:21:00 -
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Judging by this thread, they are tryhards who are going to take this game way too seriously. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.08.21 21:43:00 -
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Spies huh... lol. Saber you do realize we don't have any secrets right? Our website is transparent you don't even have to be logged in to read forum posts or anything. So Saber how close are to to toppling use from with in? I mean seriously its not hard to find our precious secrets.
Now I've never played EVE so I'm not well versed on the subject but I have played many FPS games and have played on a competitive level and I can tell you that the way this new build plays and the direction CCP is taking this game is not good. I had very high hopes for dust but if things continue to fall in line it will be become a mediocre FPS relegated to unskilled gameplay dominated by EVE bankrolled players. I know all the EVE players want this game to be all about the so called "meta game" but if the FPS aspect doesn't improve we will be left with an MMO with mediocre FPS gameplay, played by only by EVE players. |
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