Then why don't scout suits get a bonus to profile as their bonus?

The 15% to cloak fitting should belong to the cloak fitting skill(makes it available to other suits without need of booster/enchancers)

Because mark my words,scanning will come back. Once whatever the current fad is be it tanks or jump forge guns scanners will be abused again.

They all have a lower profile than other suits and gal and cal get an additional profile bonus too. Any scout can avoid all but 1 rather gimped scanner.

But will you comeback?

All scouts can beat all active and passive scans, with the exception of inner circle scans.

They all have a lower profile than other suits and gal and cal get an additional profile bonus too. Any scout can avoid all but 1 rather gimped scanner.

You don't play? Take your opinion and tuck it tightly into the smallest crevice of your arse.

Sounds like the words of someone who doesn't understand what two creodron flux active a scanners on a gal logi can do to the enemy team(or actually abuses the tactic and defends it).. Also that gimped scanner(I assume you speak of the duvolle focused scanner) still forces scouts to gimp their fits in order to evade scans.

If creodron flux active scanners themselves had the pg/CPU cost raised to where the duvolle focused is,or if the flux scanner in general scans at the long range it does but with less precision then we would never have this problem.

They way I've felt the ewar should be is that scouts should be able to fit one damp to evade scans,medium frames two and heavies if they really wanted to be stealth ballerinas could fit 3.

You don't play? Take your opinion and tuck it tightly into the smallest crevice of your arse.

If the game either gets ported or I happen to finally care enough to drop a few dollars on a ps3. I'm hoping for the the former.
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And if I can find a decent third party controller to play with because the ds3 is horrendous.

The 15% to cloak fitting should belong to the cloak fitting skill(makes it available to other suits without need of booster/enchancers)
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You don't play? Take your opinion and tuck it tightly into the smallest crevice of your arse.

Here is my answer. Just read your own signature.

Thank you , no suit ganks like scouts and I see this one cares for the repeat performance of scout 514 when most ran scout squads ganking everyone they could with zero issues .

This is way I hate scouts , all they care about is slaying and not scouting and are always asking about their role like they don't have the best role in the game already .

Well you are clearly biased and should reexamine.this.
I agree that these propositions are both dumb and unnecessary, especially the idea to make the cloak viable on other suits(even though the cloak is pretty much useless as it stands)
My question to you, however is what exactly does "scouting" entail? Looking around and sharing passive scans with teammates? Cause we don't do that. Stealing objectives? We still do that, at least I still do. 1.Are scouts not allowed to kill enemies is this what you are proposing? 2.The main thing that led to the overbalance of scouts was the lack of a decloak delay, compound that (seriously broken addition as it was implemented as a weapon switch delay which screws us if we accidentally switch to the wrong slot in the heat of battle) with the further cloak nerf, and blatant visibility of the cloak and really we kinda got shafted too hard.
My point is this: you think scouts are a gnats pube from being broken. You are wrong.

Well you are clearly biased and should reexamine.this.
I agree that these propositions are both dumb and unnecessary, especially the idea to make the cloak viable on other suits(even though the cloak is pretty much useless as it stands)
My question to you, however is what exactly does "scouting" entail? Looking around and sharing passive scans with teammates? Cause we don't do that. Stealing objectives? We still do that, at least I still do. Are scouts not allowed to kill enemies is this what you are proposing? The main thing that led to the overbalance of scouts was the lack of a decloak delay, compound that (seriously broken addition as it was implemented as a weapon switch delay which screws us if we accidentally switch to the wrong slot in the heat of battle) with the further cloak nerf, and blatant visibility of the cloak and really we kinda got shafted too hard.
My point is this: you think scouts are a gnats pube from being broken. You are wrong.

Then why don't scout suits get a bonus to profile as their bonus?

The 15% to cloak fitting should belong to the cloak fitting skill(makes it available to other suits without need of booster/enchancers)

Because mark my words,scanning will come back. Once whatever the current fad is be it tanks or jump forge guns scanners will be abused again.

Min, Cal and Amarr cannot beat a focused scanner on a gal logi - only a Gal scout can.
And only a Gal scout can evade an amarr scouts inner circle. Any scout can evade any other suits inner circle.
This all assumes fitting relavent modules for the task.

Min, Cal and Amarr cannot beat a focused scanner on a gal logi - only a Gal scout can.
And only a Gal scout can evade an amarr scouts inner circle. Any scout can evade any other suits inner circle.
This all assumes fitting relavent modules for the task.

Min, Cal and Amarr cannot beat a focused scanner on a gal logi - only a Gal scout can.
And only a Gal scout can evade an amarr scouts inner circle. Any scout can evade any other suits inner circle.
This all assumes fitting relavent modules for the task.

None of that is accurate, Foo.

No,the main thing that lead to the "overbalance" (OP) scouts was that they had enough innate dampening/eWAR built-in that they could stack eHP and break hit detection.Stealth and health,one had to go.

You're right on this point. Precisely as you said, there was a time when Scouts could stack plates and benefit from strong innate EWAR. Scouts proposed a couple different solutions to this problem, either of which would've worked. One proposed solution was to assign efficacy bonuses to EWAR modules, such that there would be no innate EWAR bonus for Assault Lite. Another proposed solution was to increase the movement penalties for plates when equipped by Scouts, or otherwise restrict plate usage on Scouts, which would've absolutely detered Assault Lite.

Instead of rolling out a fix targeted at the problem (Assault Lite), CCP decided to nerf Scout EWAR across the board. Assault Lite actually weathered this nerf better than other Scout playstyles. EWAR Scouts and Biotic Scouts (playstyles which have existed since Beta) have been largely phased out of competitive play. AM Scouts are now a joke. Intraclass parity -- which was found w/HF Charlie -- has once again been lost.

To add insult to injury, CCP turbobuffed the GalLogi at the same time that they nerfed Scout EWAR. "We're nerfing Scout EWAR because permascan is bad. We're also introducing a new, more efficient form a permascan."

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Mistakes were made. How to fix?

#1. First and foremost, fix active scans (i.e. GalLogi permascan).

#2. Make passive scans less bad (or) find a new job for the AM Scout.

#3. Finetune Falloff mechanics (or) rework EWAR.

Have you seen the cooldown times of the scanners? The guy scanning sacrifices EQ slots to keep scans up. Also, the Duvolle Focused is very very hard to use, as the scanning angle is tiny, and the duration is like 7.5 seconds with GalLogi bonus(can't remember but has like a 45 second cooldown?!?!?!).
Scanners have been shat upon more then enough. Be gone with you I say.

The line reads "fix GalLogi permascan". Permascan occurs at 21dB (not at 15dB).

The Duvolle Focused Active Scanner is among the least problematic of the lot for precisely this reason. Even with 3-4 of them, you can't keep scans up constantly due to lengthy cooldown. By contrast, the Creodron Flux is the absolute worst as it is capable of keeping scans up constantly over vast sections of map.

Another point to ponder here is teamshare vs squadshare. Back when passives were strong, we pretty much all agreed that a unit sharing long-range, always-up scans with his squad was imbalanced. What makes you think that a unit sharing long-range, always-up scans with his entire team is balanced?

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At the end of the day, permascan is bad for gameplay. It always has been. Fixing GalLogi permascan is a no brainer. As it relates to Scouts ... so long as the OP Eye of Sauron is in play, there will not be for passive recon units. Active and passive scans can (and should) be balanced in such a way that there's room for both roles.