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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.03 17:45:00 -
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Instead of buffing scouts, why not just nerf Gal Logi scans by 10% and buff the STD and ADV scanners slightly so they aren't totally useless like they are now?
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
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'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.04 21:45:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Lol every time I here someone go "kincats break hit detection" I know that they're really saying is "I can't keep track of a moving target because I have no gungame" first off I've killed plenty and have been killed by plenty of scouts.
And here's the thing. They don't move fast enough to break hit detection at all. My internet is good and I can easily compensate for the rare lagspikes because dust is a laggy game and sometimes hitboxes aren't aligned with the player models.
I've speedtanked before and serpentined very well and I still get hit.
Because those people had aim. I've never seen shots come at me and hit me and not have my health decrease,every time I was shot I lost health.
For the people that whine about kincats think about it.
A:you have to stop to regain stamina
B: lowslots dedicated to speed instead of armour
C:cannot attack while sprinting.
In response to some of the above people.
A:scouts in dictionary terms:someone sent ahead of the main force to gauge the enemy force.
B:the term for scout in dust means that they are meant for stealth and assassination(as described by the description)
C:scouts have weapons,and I doubt someone will let them get away if spotted,therefore a scout needs to kill just like all the other suits. Even logistics get weapons.
There already is a balance between health,speed and ewar,you can only have two of the three but ewar is broken for the amarr and min scouts and all suits vs a gal logi so people just go for HP and speed unless they run gal scout.
Problem is the creodron flux active scanner and gallente logistics destroys any stealth the scouts may have. So unless the precision on the flux active scanner is nerfed or all scouts get a bonus to scan profile then the never ending cycle will just continue.
I think the Gal logi bonus to precision should be nerfed slightly from 5% per level to 3% that way it should mean that 2 damps should get all scouts under the scans or 1 damp and a proto cloak.
As for the whole inner ring argument, no it shouldn't be as good as it is but it only has a 6m radius. You can literally hide anywhere outside that radius and most things will never see you, and as scouts are so fast you could get to them and kill them before you appear on their TacNet. I would suggest lowering the inner ring to maybe 4-5m or buffing the range slightly at the cost of precision.
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.08 17:01:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:MexXx Dust-Slayer wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:How long will the sh!t stay in the fan? You made a scout thread, what did you expect? I expected a sh!tstorm. That's why I made it. Didn't expect it to actually go this far with my halfassed stirs to keep it going. High fives all around, guys! Now that we have our facts straight and a good feel for what needs fixin', would now be a good time for an EWAR tuneup? Or should we plan to redo this dance periodically, like we did for the whole of 2015?
How would you change it up exactly? I mean we don't want scouts to be completely invisible but at the same time, we don't want Gal logis perma-scanning.
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.08 17:08:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
I've got numbers and ideas, Echo, but I also have to run off to work. Can I get back to you on this a bit later?
Sure 
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
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'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.08 17:22:00 -
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Ankbar Latrommi wrote:I feel like my participation in thread will get me shat on, but here goes another post... Adipem Nothi wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:
You can either be speedy, tanky, or stealthy. You don't get to have it all.
I'll take that bait! Say I'm a MinScout who has chosen to be "stealthy". I've committed all 3 of my 3 three low slots to complex dampeners. My scan profile is 16dB. What happens when I get within knife range of an Assault or Logi who's committed 1 high slot to precision? These units have the highest module slot count in the game; is it reasonable that their single-module investment trumps my 100% investment in stealth? I've forgone speed and tank to be stealthy; why is it that my stealth is so easily trumped at so little investment? Because if it takes getting into knife range before you show up...I have been paying attention to something else--since I didn't know you were coming--and you are in no danger in the small gap of time it takes for you to knife me in the back. (not from me at least)
See, I don't see a problem with the inner ring being able to pick up just about anything, cos it's literally right in front of you.
By the time you've noticed you're probably gonna die anyway so it's not a real problem like the scanner. I love the scanner, it's my favourite piece of equipment but something needs to change.
They are too strong on a gal logi and either the Gal Logi needs a nerf, the scanner gets nerfed or scouts get buffed.
I personally don't want scouts getting buffed, we saw what happened when they didn't need to fit EWAR and it was horrid, no one wants that again.
The scanner being nerfed isn't going to help either cos then scouts don't have to worry at all if the they have one damp so this is also counterproductive (unless the nerf is well thought out and not just lol nerf precision 15%).
That leaves the Gal Logi. I know how good scans are on this and it's crazy. 21db scan for 200m is insane, it needs to be addressed, maybe lower precision by 10% or 2% per level.
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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