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Ateroith
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 00:23:00 -
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CCP y
it has become so scary
"...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.19 01:09:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:How do I directly buy Officer gear with Aurum? Open boxes. Or trade AUR for isk.
Key word is direct those are both indirect methods. |
The Eristic
Titans of Phoenix
Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.19 01:21:00 -
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Of all the accusations one could level at Dust, P2W isn't really one of them.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
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Shaun Iwairo
Dust University
Ivy League
190
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Posted - 2015.10.19 02:09:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:From other side of coin i really know about what this boyko talks.
I miss times when you paid for game once and that was all.
Full concept one price
Because tbh f2p games are the most expensive ones these days.
Yup i think im really old.
lol @ most expensive.
Let me tell you what it's like being a Destiny player in Australia.
Base game: $65 a few months after release
Year one expansion pass: $40
The Taken King major expansion: $75
It's cost me $180 to get the game that Destiny should have been in the first place.
I've bought 2 respecs, an APEX, the Minmatar combat pack and the MN-M Legacy skin all for about $80 and I've still got 4 or 5k aurum left.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 02:49:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:How do I directly buy Officer gear with Aurum? Open boxes. Or trade AUR for isk. Key word is direct those are both indirect methods.
So pay to win could just be a victory screen for a AUR price.
Crush them
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:49:00 -
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Nahh, about half of the officer gear that will be around will be generated by non-aurum ways.
It's not that bad.
And can't be classified as P2W. (but the warbarge damage bonus might)
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Seach "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:58:00 -
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Alone the fact that officer gear is tradable makes the P2W accusation of them void.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Seach "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 06:04:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:How do I directly buy Officer gear with Aurum?
Now arguing for the other perspective,
Whether officer gear can be bought directly or not is irrelevant.
Only whether it is unobtainable (or practically unobtainable) thru other means is.
KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Seach "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ancient Exiles.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
4
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Posted - 2015.10.19 06:07:00 -
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what difference does it make now? SP is the easiest to obtain than it has ever been. You can buy officer gear with ISK...so whatever you are using for AUR now, you can get with ISK
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
Check RND out here
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.10.19 06:11:00 -
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8213 wrote:The gross amount of "rare" officer gear being use so casually in this game is the perfect proof.
Officer is brought into the game with AURUM.
This game has always been pay to win, but now its out of hand.
Eliminate strongboxes, and /or the Warbarge. Both are fueled by AURUM and both are responisible the vast amount of Officer gear in circulation.
Of course, I could just forward this all to Sony, and the US BBB, and respective state departments concerning consumer fraud an misleading...
Wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't it, CCP? ;)
CCP wont care about this they will just keep trying to milk money off the community and thats about it.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.10.19 06:13:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:...
Of course, I could just forward this all to Sony, and the US BBB, and respective state departments concerning consumer fraud an misleading...
Wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't it, CCP? ;) You do know that micro-transactions in games is an actual 'thing', right? This is not something "big bad greedy CCP" invented, and is trying to get away with. And as for the pay to win argument: - There is a fix - and easy - daily mission with a key as a reward, so you can open Strongboxes for free. - Warbarge Components are produced by the Mobile Factory, for free. They are also possible daily mission rewards, again, for free. And you can also get some as salvage. Thus, you can use the Experimental Laboratory for free. - You can get AUR for free as a daily login bonus. You can use that on any of the above. - You can buy officer gear for in-game currency, as in, for free.
Or i just dont play the game which is the best fix for it.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Shaun Iwairo
Dust University
Ivy League
190
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Posted - 2015.10.19 06:18:00 -
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What is your deal Bright Cloud? Every day at about this time you come on the forums and cry about how bad this game is. You don't add anything. You just cry.
Bright Cloud wrote:
Or i just dont play the game which is the best fix for it.
CCP wont care about this they will just keep trying to milk money off the community and thats about it.
Dont bother trying to defending the game. CCP doesnt want to fix things they just want your money. Let your wallet speak for you by not giving them a single cent and leave the game.
Congrats for making the jump off this horrendeus game.
cant code properly prefers to treat costumers as cashcows, not as human beeings with rights to have a opinion.
There is no reason to stay on this game, you should move on to other games like others did.
I didn't even have to edit anything out. That's literally your last few posts in order. Just give it up, your crying is getting beyond tired.
Something is killing new player retention.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.10.19 07:51:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:What is your deal Bright Cloud? Every day at about this time you come on the forums and cry about how bad this game is. You don't add anything. You just cry. Bright Cloud wrote:
Or i just dont play the game which is the best fix for it.
CCP wont care about this they will just keep trying to milk money off the community and thats about it.
Dont bother trying to defending the game. CCP doesnt want to fix things they just want your money. Let your wallet speak for you by not giving them a single cent and leave the game.
Congrats for making the jump off this horrendeus game.
cant code properly prefers to treat costumers as cashcows, not as human beeings with rights to have a opinion.
There is no reason to stay on this game, you should move on to other games like others did.
I didn't even have to edit anything out. That's literally your last few posts in order. Just give it up, your crying is getting beyond tired.
I dont need to add anything cause im talking from experience. I could aswell say the same about CCP they havent added CONTENT (weapons, vehicles etc.) for ages. Just hotfixes and here and there if you are lucky a bugfix but thats about it. Im not crying im trying to get people off this game. Before you claim that the warbarge was content i dont recall a GIF picture where you can throw money at it as content.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Shaun Iwairo
Dust University
Ivy League
190
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Posted - 2015.10.19 08:01:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:...im trying to get people off this game...
But why put so much effort into it? I can understand if you feel slighted by CCP, but coming in and spamming so many threads with not much more than 'don't play Dust' is just strange. Let it go.
Something is killing new player retention.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
3
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Posted - 2015.10.19 11:11:00 -
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I was some what with you until you started making ridiculous threats.
The BBB is a private organization and probably would not waste its time on CCP. Even if they do, they sell good ratings to anyone who wants to buy one so that is a waste of time.
Sony does not give a **** and will just issue a refund cause it is coming out of CCPs wallet anyway. You will just be a tax write off.
State departments for consumer fraud? LOLOLOLOL I could drop a list a mile long on why that is ******** to even say but I think common sense is enough. |
8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:29:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Pay to Win:
A situation where the best possible gear in the game is available for real world cash and not attainable via any other means.
Please point out what items are on the purchase-for-money that cannot be attained via any other means that will overpower all other items.
Please point out the prototype or officer level gear that cannot be attained from salvage or the NPC market.
I will bring it directly to rattati's attention for inclusion in the next hotfix.
But first show me on the doll where the officer spam touched you.
Aww, a CPM thinking he means something...
Considering there are three ways for officer gear to enter the game, 2 out of 3 are strictly aurum based.
Funny, you used the word "officer spam"
So, is there too much officer gear in circulation and being causally used? Where did all of this officer gear come from?
Please, find out where it came from and forward it to CCP (Whom you do not work for, you work for the playerbase, remember)
As usual, you people validate my opinions when trying to counter-argue.
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
Audacity of wanting improvement
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Shaun Iwairo
Dust University
Ivy League
190
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:33:00 -
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8213 wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Pay to Win:
A situation where the best possible gear in the game is available for real world cash and not attainable via any other means.
Please point out what items are on the purchase-for-money that cannot be attained via any other means that will overpower all other items.
Please point out the prototype or officer level gear that cannot be attained from salvage or the NPC market.
I will bring it directly to rattati's attention for inclusion in the next hotfix.
But first show me on the doll where the officer spam touched you. Aww, a CPM thinking he means something... Considering there are three ways for officer gear to enter the game, 2 out of 3 are strictly aurum based. Funny, you used the word "officer spam" So, is there too much officer gear in circulation and being causally used? Where did all of this officer gear come from?Please, find out where it came from and forward it to CCP (Whom you do not work for, you work for the playerbase, remember) As usual, you people validate my opinions when trying to counter-argue.
Quoting for posterity, especially your use of '2 out of 3 are strictly aurum based'
Something is killing new player retention.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
12
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:43:00 -
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8213 wrote:2 out of 3 are strictly aurum based. Strongboxes, Experimental Lab warbarge sub-system, and EoM salvage are the three ways I know of to produce officer gear. Players have access to all three without purchasing AUR.
I say again... The hell are you going on about?
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:44:00 -
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Again:
- There is a fix - and easy - daily mission with a key as a reward, so you can open Strongboxes for free.
- Warbarge Components are produced by the Mobile Factory, for free. They are also possible daily mission rewards, again, for free. And you can also get some as salvage. Thus, you can use the Experimental Laboratory for free.
- You can get AUR for free as a daily login bonus. You can use that on any of the above.
- You can buy officer gear for in-game currency - from other players through Player Trading - as in, for free.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:04:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:...im trying to get people off this game... But why put so much effort into it? I can understand if you feel slighted by CCP, but coming in and spamming so many threads with not much more than 'don't play Dust' is just strange. Let it go.
Because playing the forum meta is more fun then playing the actual game.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:18:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Again:
- There is a fix - and easy - daily mission with a key as a reward, so you can open Strongboxes for free.
- Warbarge Components are produced by the Mobile Factory, for free. They are also possible daily mission rewards, again, for free. And you can also get some as salvage. Thus, you can use the Experimental Laboratory for free.
- You can get AUR for free as a daily login bonus. You can use that on any of the above.
- You can buy officer gear for in-game currency - from other players through Player Trading - as in, for free.
Then why are there efforts by the current CPM class to limit the gross amount of Officer Gear in the game?
Yes, 2-3% of the officer gear in circulation was brought in by free means. Now, the 100,000s of other officer items? Explain that.
It coincides with our trading system being AURUM only items as well.
In my country we have a saying, "Don't p!ss down my neck and tell me its raining."
You can't claim officer gear to be rare, and at the same time admit is is being over-used spammed. You can't claim officer gear is free, when the overwhelming majority f it is brought into the game by means of AURUM use.
Stop pointing out single isolated examples to try and cover for the negligence in implementing the Warbarge and Strongbox elements.
Please, I encourage you to actually tally the amount of officer gear that is in the game, and track whether or not is is keeping pace with attrition. This would greatly enhance the balance of the game between players, the pay-to-win concept, and simply skewing of information being provided to us. Thank you
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
Audacity of wanting improvement
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
13
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:19:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Pay to Win:
A situation where the best possible gear in the game is available for real world cash and not attainable via any other means.
Please point out what items are on the purchase-for-money that cannot be attained via any other means that will overpower all other items.
Please point out the prototype or officer level gear that cannot be attained from salvage or the NPC market.
I will bring it directly to rattati's attention for inclusion in the next hotfix.
But first show me on the doll where the officer spam touched you.
It's 8213.
Everything touches him the wrong way.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:25:00 -
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Well, I'm not CPM and I don't have magical spreadsheets like CCP Rattati about how many Officer items were created through the different possible means. All I'm saying is that they're available in-game through other means as well, without spending a single dime, and this is a fact. There's no way around it 
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:27:00 -
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8213 wrote:
Please, find out where it came from and forward it to CCP (Whom you do not work for, you work for the playerbase, remember)
Allow me to clarify:
I am a volunteer. I don't work for ANYONE. I don't get paid by CCP, nor do I get paid by the playerbase. I devote my free time to the game, and I don't particularly feel like taking instruction from an individual who cannot figure out that free to play monetization does not constitute any form of fraud under any legal system I am aware of.
But please, by all means, keep thinking your opinion is any more valued or worthwhile than mine, or the ten-day-old newbie asking for help in learning how to not get ripped apart.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
13
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:37:00 -
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Dear CSM and CCP,
This is 8213 here we're talking about.
You can't argue with him, and I don't know why you would want to.
He's shown time and time again to only be capable of two things; Complaining, and trash-talking.
He will simply discount all of your opinions "because you don't know what you're talking about" and continue spewing whatever nonsense he believes in until half the War Room comes down here and yells at him until he quits Dust514.
AGAIN.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:37:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Well, I'm not CPM and I don't have magical spreadsheets like CCP Rattati about how many Officer items were created through the different possible means. All I'm saying is that they're available in-game through other means as well, without spending a single dime, and this is a fact. There's no way around it
Cool, now the part of my inquisition that has been getting avoided.
Why and how is there this much Officer gear in circulation? Perhaps, this can be forwarded to the Dev Team?
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
Audacity of wanting improvement
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:42:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dear CSM and CCP,
This is 8213 here we're talking about.
You can't argue with him, and I don't know why you would want to.
He's shown time and time again to only be capable of two things; Complaining, and trash-talking.
He will simply discount all of your opinions "because you don't know what you're talking about" and continue spewing whatever nonsense he believes in until half the War Room comes down here and yells at him until he quits Dust514.
AGAIN.
I haven't quit in 2 years...
Unlike the majority of WR. Because unlike them, I'm incapable of just giving up up on the terrible game and want improvement before I'm 6-ft under 
Fighting for a better game should not be seen as problematic.. Perhaps if more were involved, the majority of the playerbase wouldn't have quit...
They call me an elite and a vet... That should tell you how may actual elites and vets have been so long gone from this game...
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
Audacity of wanting improvement
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Jared Fogle
Fake Ancient Exiles. 2.0
189
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:47:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Again:
- There is a fix - and easy - daily mission with a key as a reward, so you can open Strongboxes for free.
- Warbarge Components are produced by the Mobile Factory, for free. They are also possible daily mission rewards, again, for free. And you can also get some as salvage. Thus, you can use the Experimental Laboratory for free.
- You can get AUR for free as a daily login bonus. You can use that on any of the above.
- You can buy officer gear for in-game currency - from other players through Player Trading - as in, for free.
Stop it. Common sense will get you banned around these parts. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
13
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:53:00 -
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8213 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dear CSM and CCP,
This is 8213 here we're talking about.
You can't argue with him, and I don't know why you would want to.
He's shown time and time again to only be capable of two things; Complaining, and trash-talking.
He will simply discount all of your opinions "because you don't know what you're talking about" and continue spewing whatever nonsense he believes in until half the War Room comes down here and yells at him until he quits Dust514.
AGAIN. I haven't quit in 2 years... Unlike the majority of WR. Because unlike them, I'm incapable of just giving up up on the terrible game and want improvement before I'm 6-ft under Fighting for a better game should not be seen as problematic.. Perhaps if more were involved, the majority of the playerbase wouldn't have quit... They call me an elite and a vet... That should tell you how may actual elites and vets have been so long gone from this game...
I should have specified, "Quit PC" rather than "Quit Dust514".
Practically the same thing though, pubs aren't worth playing 90% of the time.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
2
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:55:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:8213 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dear CSM and CCP,
This is 8213 here we're talking about.
You can't argue with him, and I don't know why you would want to.
He's shown time and time again to only be capable of two things; Complaining, and trash-talking.
He will simply discount all of your opinions "because you don't know what you're talking about" and continue spewing whatever nonsense he believes in until half the War Room comes down here and yells at him until he quits Dust514.
AGAIN. I haven't quit in 2 years... Unlike the majority of WR. Because unlike them, I'm incapable of just giving up up on the terrible game and want improvement before I'm 6-ft under Fighting for a better game should not be seen as problematic.. Perhaps if more were involved, the majority of the playerbase wouldn't have quit... They call me an elite and a vet... That should tell you how may actual elites and vets have been so long gone from this game... I should have specified, "Quit PC" rather than "Quit Dust514". Practically the same thing though, pubs aren't worth playing 90% of the time.
All I play is PC and FW :(
But, I hate PC. Its meaningless and insulting to play 1fps
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
Audacity of wanting improvement
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