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Posted - 2015.10.18 22:57:00 -
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The gross amount of "rare" officer gear being use so casually in this game is the perfect proof.
Officer is brought into the game with AURUM.
This game has always been pay to win, but now its out of hand.
Eliminate strongboxes, and /or the Warbarge. Both are fueled by AURUM and both are responisible the vast amount of Officer gear in circulation.
Of course, I could just forward this all to Sony, and the US BBB, and respective state departments concerning consumer fraud an misleading...
Wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't it, CCP? ;)
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Posted - 2015.10.18 23:03:00 -
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Haven't even logged on yet.
But seeing is how I have 1000s of "rare" items...
And 1000s of other players do to
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Posted - 2015.10.18 23:06:00 -
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Daemonn Adima wrote:Pretty sure I played with and against you today 8213, either way the quality of the games was really terrible. Redline, rooftops, and 8vs15 all day. Had one superb domination game though, was even the whole time and only 2-3 people on each side had officer/proto going. Ended super close, each with under 50 clones and not even a full notch on our MCC armor!
Scroll up... I haven't even logged in yet
The matchmaking is one issue,, and broken mechanics another.
I'm talking about the access to officer gear being called rare, and pay to win
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Posted - 2015.10.18 23:22:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:8213 wrote:The gross amount of "rare" officer gear being use so casually in this game is the perfect proof.
Officer is brought into the game with AURUM.
This game has always been pay to win, but now its out of hand.
Eliminate strongboxes, and /or the Warbarge. Both are fueled by AURUM and both are responisible the vast amount of Officer gear in circulation.
Of course, I could just forward this all to Sony, and the US BBB, and respective state departments concerning consumer fraud an misleading...
Wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't it, CCP? ;) I'm confused. This is a troll right? I'll explain under the premise that your serious. Officer gear can't be paid for with Aur. You may get lucky by using your daily Aur (which is free by logging in) to pay for your experiential weapons lab to release what it made and it may be officer gear if your lucky. Mon I was ecstatic to be lucky enough to get 3 Logibro after a match. Would have been the 6th that I received as salvage ever. As far as the pay to win idea.....here we go. A merc battles. At end of said battle merc gets compensated in isk (in game currency) to which they use to purchase gear. Many mercs will exchange a lavish amount of isk to mercs willing to give them coveted gear for said isk. Under this understanding there are very wealthy mercs that will exchange this in game currency (earned by playing not paying) in order to gain an edge over the competition. People can do this without paying any actual money thus making your pay to win argument null. Take care, wasted thread.
So, I can use AURUM to make free ISK... p2w I can use AURUM to access officer 2/3s the way possible... p2w Yup, thanks for validating my argument
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Posted - 2015.10.19 12:29:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Pay to Win:
A situation where the best possible gear in the game is available for real world cash and not attainable via any other means.
Please point out what items are on the purchase-for-money that cannot be attained via any other means that will overpower all other items.
Please point out the prototype or officer level gear that cannot be attained from salvage or the NPC market.
I will bring it directly to rattati's attention for inclusion in the next hotfix.
But first show me on the doll where the officer spam touched you.
Aww, a CPM thinking he means something...
Considering there are three ways for officer gear to enter the game, 2 out of 3 are strictly aurum based.
Funny, you used the word "officer spam" So, is there too much officer gear in circulation and being causally used? Where did all of this officer gear come from?
Please, find out where it came from and forward it to CCP (Whom you do not work for, you work for the playerbase, remember)
As usual, you people validate my opinions when trying to counter-argue.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:18:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Again:
- There is a fix - and easy - daily mission with a key as a reward, so you can open Strongboxes for free. - Warbarge Components are produced by the Mobile Factory, for free. They are also possible daily mission rewards, again, for free. And you can also get some as salvage. Thus, you can use the Experimental Laboratory for free. - You can get AUR for free as a daily login bonus. You can use that on any of the above. - You can buy officer gear for in-game currency - from other players through Player Trading - as in, for free.
Then why are there efforts by the current CPM class to limit the gross amount of Officer Gear in the game?
Yes, 2-3% of the officer gear in circulation was brought in by free means. Now, the 100,000s of other officer items? Explain that. It coincides with our trading system being AURUM only items as well.
In my country we have a saying, "Don't p!ss down my neck and tell me its raining."
You can't claim officer gear to be rare, and at the same time admit is is being over-used spammed. You can't claim officer gear is free, when the overwhelming majority f it is brought into the game by means of AURUM use.
Stop pointing out single isolated examples to try and cover for the negligence in implementing the Warbarge and Strongbox elements.
Please, I encourage you to actually tally the amount of officer gear that is in the game, and track whether or not is is keeping pace with attrition. This would greatly enhance the balance of the game between players, the pay-to-win concept, and simply skewing of information being provided to us. Thank you
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:37:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Well, I'm not CPM and I don't have magical spreadsheets like CCP Rattati about how many Officer items were created through the different possible means. All I'm saying is that they're available in-game through other means as well, without spending a single dime, and this is a fact. There's no way around it
Cool, now the part of my inquisition that has been getting avoided.
Why and how is there this much Officer gear in circulation? Perhaps, this can be forwarded to the Dev Team?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:42:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dear CSM and CCP,
This is 8213 here we're talking about.
You can't argue with him, and I don't know why you would want to.
He's shown time and time again to only be capable of two things; Complaining, and trash-talking.
He will simply discount all of your opinions "because you don't know what you're talking about" and continue spewing whatever nonsense he believes in until half the War Room comes down here and yells at him until he quits Dust514.
AGAIN.
I haven't quit in 2 years... Unlike the majority of WR. Because unlike them, I'm incapable of just giving up up on the terrible game and want improvement before I'm 6-ft under
Fighting for a better game should not be seen as problematic.. Perhaps if more were involved, the majority of the playerbase wouldn't have quit...
They call me an elite and a vet... That should tell you how may actual elites and vets have been so long gone from this game...
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Posted - 2015.10.19 13:55:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:8213 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dear CSM and CCP,
This is 8213 here we're talking about.
You can't argue with him, and I don't know why you would want to.
He's shown time and time again to only be capable of two things; Complaining, and trash-talking.
He will simply discount all of your opinions "because you don't know what you're talking about" and continue spewing whatever nonsense he believes in until half the War Room comes down here and yells at him until he quits Dust514.
AGAIN. I haven't quit in 2 years... Unlike the majority of WR. Because unlike them, I'm incapable of just giving up up on the terrible game and want improvement before I'm 6-ft under Fighting for a better game should not be seen as problematic.. Perhaps if more were involved, the majority of the playerbase wouldn't have quit... They call me an elite and a vet... That should tell you how may actual elites and vets have been so long gone from this game... I should have specified, "Quit PC" rather than "Quit Dust514". Practically the same thing though, pubs aren't worth playing 90% of the time.
All I play is PC and FW :( But, I hate PC. Its meaningless and insulting to play 1fps
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Posted - 2015.10.19 14:14:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Are you going to report all the other free games that allow you to spend real money to gain an advantage out there?
If spending money wasn't profitable to your in game play, what would be the point and how would CCP make money?
I personally haven't spent a dime on this game in over half a year or more, I got plenty of officer gear and suits. How do you suppose I did that? c:
By buying it off the players who did spend money...
Any other brainbusters?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 14:42:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I personally haven't spent a dime on this game in over half a year or more, I got plenty of officer gear and suits. How do you suppose I did that? c: By buying it off the players who did spend money... Any other brainbusters? crumble-crumble-crumble... So you do see that officer gear is available for players who do not spend money on the game! I'm super relieved now, and glad that your concerns were properly addressed.
Avoiding the main point, yet again. HOW is it brought into the game?
That's like saying I bought paper from the store. The store makes paper. It doesn't come from a tree first, it comes only from the store.
Unless you can tell me that officer gear is not in as much casual use as we all know (your personal BPO excluded of course ), and can back it up with factual evidence, you're still avoiding the point. As a good GM does.
I don't thinking its even possible to has a mobile factory on a person warbarge since its introduction without the use of aurum, as a enough time has not elapsed... So, anything produced from the lab on the WB is aurum produced.
Stongboxes are sitting at a rough 500:1 box to key ratio, so that would account for less than 1% of total officer gear in the game overall.
And EOM drops... I don't know what the percentage for them. But unless it accounts for 50% of officer gear in the game, then you must argue that officer is aurum based, especially at it's current levels of use and attainability.
We can joke all you would like. I'm a funny guy. But, for the FOURTH time... HOW DOES THIS MUCH OFFICER GEAR GET BROUGHT INTO THE GAME?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 14:44:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:8213 wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Are you going to report all the other free games that allow you to spend real money to gain an advantage out there?
If spending money wasn't profitable to your in game play, what would be the point and how would CCP make money?
I personally haven't spent a dime on this game in over half a year or more, I got plenty of officer gear and suits. How do you suppose I did that? c: By buying it off the players who did spend money... Any other brainbusters? I don't buy officer gear off of people.
Then where did you obtain it from? And how much is "plenty"?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 14:46:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:8213 wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:8213 wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Are you going to report all the other free games that allow you to spend real money to gain an advantage out there?
If spending money wasn't profitable to your in game play, what would be the point and how would CCP make money?
I personally haven't spent a dime on this game in over half a year or more, I got plenty of officer gear and suits. How do you suppose I did that? c: By buying it off the players who did spend money... Any other brainbusters? I don't buy officer gear off of people. Then where did you obtain it from? And how much is "plenty"? Suits and weapons in the 20's, 30's, and more on some. Come on now, you asked for a brain buster right? :P
How did you obtain it?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 15:08:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:8213 wrote:
How did you obtain it?
Warbarge, daily keys, salvage, and I trade what I don't use for things I do with a bunch of guys who gets them the same way. No money spent for any of us to get lots of what we need :3
WB? Do you time travel or how do you combat wait times between upgrades?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 15:22:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:I'm not avoiding the main point. I gave you a detailed list of how to bring officer gear in game without spending AUR, you just don't agree and want to argue. Do you want me to copy paste it in again?
You just avoided the point... again...
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Posted - 2015.10.19 15:42:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:GM Archduke wrote:I'm not avoiding the main point. I gave you a detailed list of how to bring officer gear in game without spending AUR, you just don't agree and want to argue. Do you want me to copy paste it in again? You just avoided the point... again... LOL I'll stop feeding trolls. One last time ways to get officer gear without spending real money for AUR: - There is a fix - and easy - daily mission with a key as a reward, so you can open Strongboxes for free, and get officer gear from them. - Warbarge Components are produced by the Mobile Factory, for free. They are also possible daily mission rewards, again, for free. And you can also get some as salvage. Thus, you can use the Experimental Laboratory for free, and get officer gear. - Officer gear is available as salvage. For free. - You can get AUR for free as a daily login bonus. You can use that on any of the above. No real money spent.
I'm the one getting trolled... How Did This Much Officer Gear Get Into The Game ?
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Posted - 2015.10.19 16:00:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:How Did This Much Officer Gear Get Into The Game ? Simple. Every Mercenary has a free Warbarge, that can be upgraded for free to produce experimental and officer gear every day, for free. Every Mercenary can get Officer gear as salvage. Every Mercenary gets a lot of strongboxes and some keys for free from missions and salvage. Every Newsletter subscriber received officer items for free /forgot about this one so far/. Every Mercenary gets AUR for free, every day they log in, this can be converted to Warbarge Components and keys. This is how this much officer gear gets into the game. I'm not trolling and I'm not joking /much less having fun/, I'm here to help. But I really don't think you care to listen.
Now, does this statement you say account for the majority of officer gear in the game? Because, I'm arguing that the gross amount of gear being used and that is in the game is AURUM fueled. You are trying to claim that it is fueled mostly by free mechanics.
I want to know who is correct. If the majority of the 100,000s of officer pieces that exist in this game are because of free mechanics, then I'll rest my case.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 16:19:00 -
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See you on he field... We both know what happens to you
And, if you haven't the resources to discuss the inquiry, please refrain and deposit someone to the discussion that has.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 17:02:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:GM Archduke wrote: EDIT: And now I'm off to play some DUST. Don't be surprised if I don't post here anymore.
Typical, find funny guy in the topic, make a troll out of him, and if someone else appear with some descend arguments just avoid him. edit: and I know you have edited your post twice . Now three times. Again, not trolling. To answer your question, yes, in the scenario you described the team who spent real money on getting stuff sooner is likely to have an advantage, and no, this is still not pay to win. I mean, seriously, guys, have you never played any other games involving micro-transactions? This is just how it works.Starter fits can still kill full officer fits. You can still have superior tactics, superior gun-play, better luck or just in general be more enthusiastic about the game and win by sheer willpower. There is no way you can actually buy a win.
We'd need to discuss the definition of winning. If winning is defined by netting the most account of resource and ISK, then yes your game is 100% pay-to-win.
If winning is defined by simply winning a battle, not taking into account resource loss or profiting, then no your game is not pay-to-win and simply has 0 need for micro-transactions. So, why would there be micro-transactions in the game?
But, the main point I was trying to make is that Officer Gear in this game has become out of control, and it is direct result of AURUM use over free mechanics.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 17:04:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:8213 wrote:GM Archduke wrote:I'm not avoiding the main point. I gave you a detailed list of how to bring officer gear in game without spending AUR, you just don't agree and want to argue. Do you want me to copy paste it in again? You just avoided the point... again... No, he didn't. You're just repeatedly claiming 'but ur avoiding mah point waaah' without actually ever making one.
My point is that officer gear in the game has reached a saturated amount, and it is a direct result of AURUM use.
What we are discussing here is, whether the officer items are mainly from free mechanics or AURUM mechanics. I believe it is AURUM mechanics.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 18:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Who here is now level 4 or 5 on any sub section since the implementation of the war barge with out paying anything? anyone?
How about two or more lvl 4+ sub sections? oh yeah no one. Two level 4 without aur? Hi.
So, no AURUM what-so-ever? Including WB Components obtain from Boxes that were opened with AURUM? ...Maybe you can prove with math and tim how you were able to accomplish this?
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Posted - 2015.10.20 18:28:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:He changed tack a page an a half ago to
What we are discussing here is, whether the officer items are mainly from free mechanics or AURUM mechanics. I believe it is AURUM mechanics.
Emphasis mine.
I can now see what he's complaining about, but holy hell did he go about it in the wrong way.
Yes, as in 50% or more. In my opinion AURUM has made 90% pf Officer Gear in the game... I haven't changed anything.
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Posted - 2015.10.20 20:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just thought I would throw it out there and that experimental lab appears to have been changed. It now produces experimental weaponry far more than officer gear, which is nice.
Oh... so apparently it was a problem???? Well, thread is almost done.
I love ALWAYS being right
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Posted - 2015.10.20 20:26:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:8213 wrote:I love ALWAYS being right When you change your argument and rhetoric every other post it's pretty easy to decide you won an argument. Move along, folks. Just another 8213 thread. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Perhaps you are new here.
I had a 50+ page thread talking about how Scouts did not need a buff. Everyone disagreed with me. And, I was a Scout. Scouts got buffed anyway, were obviously unbalanced and OP... I was right
I had another 50+ page thread discussing how Vehicles and AV were actually balanced. And, I was a tanker. Everyone disagreed. Vehicles got buffed and AV nerfed, it was obviously unbalanced... I was right
I was fought against when the sixkin HMG was to OP... right I'm still being fought about sidearm balance... but let's just assume what we know, I'm right
I reviewed DUST 514 and said it was one of the worst constructed games ever made... Considering the game have only received negative views(except 1), has a failed playerbase, and has been put on the chopping block for Legion... yup right as usual
I stated before Uprising was even released that Protostomping and the way the game progresses will drive away new players and the playerbase will only stay small and never gain... So, how many people log on after 3 years?
I stated that allowing modules that make players strafe vertically 20m/s was unbalnced when horizontal strafing was being nerfed at the same time... right as I always am (see a pattern here?)
Now, I stated that AURUM was driving the amount of Officer Gear being spammed in this game through WB Upgrades and Strongbox keys... So far, if the WB really only does make experimental it would appear I'm on my way to being right.
I come off as a d!ck often, and like anyone who is labeled a d!ck; I could care less of your opinion of me. I strive to make the playersbase stronger and help the game. Despite the stubbornness of them. If I see a problem with the game, I want it corrected. Because I'm not a self involved pr!ck who tries to argue in favor of unbalance for my benefit.
My argument never changed this thread. It was Archduke that constantly ignored the points I was making and tried to shadow them with his isolated examples. Word of advice, no game developer is ever your fiend or on your side. It's their job to take your money.
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Posted - 2015.10.20 20:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:8213 wrote:Now, I stated that AURUM was driving the amount of Officer Gear being spammed in this game through WB Upgrades and Strongbox keys... So far, if the WB really only does make experimental it would appear I'm on my way to being right. Keep your internet forum resume to yourself. I don't give a ****. Referring to this statement since it pertains to the thread... As it has been explained to you time, and time, and time, and time again: warbarges can be upgraded quite easily by just logging in daily to claim your FREE warbarge components and EoM warbarge components. You are making the assumption that somehow all warbarges are being upgraded via AUR. You are making the assumption that officer weapons are all coming from strongboxes. When in fact it's just hundreds of mercenaries who are upgrading their warbarge for FREE, flooding the market with officer weapons they produced for FREE, without spending a dollar on AUR. So, in response to this, CCP changed the experimental lab production table to be experimental weapons. Now this tide of officer weapons that were produced for FREE will slow down. I don't think we can make this any more clear: this bullshit you are concocting about officer weapons being purchased is just that... bullshit. You can pump out officer weapons every day without spending any money on AUR. Also, strongbox keys can also be obtained for FREE just by getting one victory a day. You can also earn them for FREE by completing certain daily missions.
You see, your arguent is cute, but we are talking about 100,000s... The game should not have over a million pieces of "rare" salvage in it with a 4,000 person playerbase...
Yes, you can farm WBs for free. I had a person mail m in game just yesterday claiming he's farming 500 WBs himself through multiple accounts and PS3s (Michael Epic). Of course he's lying, because to log into DUST 500 times would take about 6 hours a day, just to log onto the game that many times...
So, wrap your head around the numbers and realize that unless 1,000 players have 500 farmable accounts, it doesn't add up. The time wals that the WB have would make it an impossibility without Aurum use.
I will honestly claim that is the WB now does only produce experimental then it proves Officer gear is much to much in this game. And, my case states that AURUM is driving this.
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Posted - 2015.10.20 21:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:8213 wrote:4,000 person playerbase... 4,000 person playerbase? That is close to the number of concurrent logins, probably. That doesn't count the people who login, claim their goods, and log out. The number of unique logins each month is much, much, much higher Anecdotal I know, but a friend is logging in once per day to get his free stuff but not playing matches. He just claims his warbarge components, gets his FREE AUR, and occasionally sends other people officer gear he doesn't use. He is an example of someone who doesn't increase the concurrent login numbers much, but does count as a unique login. 8213 wrote:And, my case states that AURUM is driving this. Your entire "case" hinges on the fact that there are only 4,000-ish players playing Dust 514. Since that is not true, your "case" is dribble shlock.
You realize that these alts that log in would consume hours, and they nee to have a loyalty rank of 2, right?
Sorry, but besides those who always claim to be God's Gift to DUST and do everything the "honest" way it doesn't add up.
I know what happens in this game, and you can make up scenarios all you'd like...
The overwhelming amount of Officer Gear in this game comes from a direct result of using AURUM.
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