District Kredits and a new District Market
We look forward to adding new and special gear, exclusive to the District Market and those illustrious Mercenaries that fought for and hold, or held Districts, earning District Kredits.

Raiding
This also introduces a way for Corporations that donGÇÖt want to own Districts, to make money by using their earned Command Points to attack their enemies, or easy targets by any definition, to see if they canGÇÖt make money using the recently introduced Keep what you Kill reward method. If a corporation ends up winning a District, and doesnGÇÖt want it, they can always ransom it back as well. We hope to expand on the Raiding concept further down the line, by actually stealing resources from the District owner, possibly by GÇ£instant-sellingGÇ¥ clones for ISK and DK.

This idea seems nice, but I'd like to expand or convince you to change this.

The reason I say this is that there are two problems I don't see being solved that could be solved in tandem with this.

1) Lack of maps

2) No need to hold additional district types (production facilities and surface research labs)

Anyway, on to my solutions, instead of just creating a market, how about making it to where corps can manufacture and/or sell weapons, dropsuits and vehicles using districts.

To expand further on this:

I believe that the manufacturing should come in two types of shipments, cartel and sanctioned gear.

cartel gear will produce more units, will sell more than the cost of producing, but will take longer to manufacture, and will have an added chance of getting "hijacked".

sanctioned gear produces less units per shipment, will sell only slightly more than the cost of producing, but doesn't take as long as cartel gear to produce, and has a very low chance of getting stolen.

How they're made:

The process starts at the surface research lab, and will end at the cargo hub.

Surface research lab role: This is where you'll produce and use blueprints of your desired weapon or vehicle. It would help if the blueprints had customizable abilities (higher damage, less recoil, etc.). The blueprints should be permanent, and should cost quite a bit if you wish to change or modify it.

Reward for capturing a hostile lab: You gain the blueprint the original owner used for your corp.

Reward for defending your own lab: This reward is dependent on if the total carnage reaches 20 mil destroyed minimum. If this happens, the defenders will receive an isk reward alongside the original equivalent to the total lost isk (divided equally amongst the defenders of course)

The production facility role: This is where I believe the lack of maps can be remedied, as I believe there should be different types of facilities for production. Four to be precise. Shipments will take, depending on type of item built, and whether it's cartel or sanctioned, anywhere from 24-48 hours to create.

Dropsuit and weapons facilities: These facilities are obviously used to produce weapons and dropsuits for the infantry players.

Turret and Vehicle facilities: These facilities are used to create vehicle hulls and turrets for the vehicle players.

Rewards for capturing a facility that is producing: If an attacker successfully captures a hostile facility with an isk lost amount equaling 20 mil or higher while it is in production, you will have two options, depending on what you have available. I will use the infantry suit as an example.

Say you capture a dropsuit shipment.

If you have a shipment of weapons either being produced or already made, you can choose to move them into the just captured facility to make a weapon and armor set with certain benefits (lowered weapon PG/CPU is a decent example). There should be additional if the weapon and armor are of similar nationality (Amarr, min, etc.)

If you have a blueprint of another dropsuit, you can cross in the blueprint with the shipment and put your buffs into the suit, to a lesser extent if they're not of the same race type.

Rewards for defending a shipment: If a defender is able to defend his shipment and destroy 20 mil worth of equipment, then he will get to use the excess salvage to put in the production, making even more of his shipment than originally before.

The isk destroyed limit should be very important, as if this not implemented, it will be abused vehemently (If I still played, I'd do it).

Next area should be the cargo hub. This is where you will hold your shipment until you either:
A) sell it on the district market mentioned.
B) put it in your own corp armory. (oh yeah, there should be a corp armory)

If you chose to create cartel gear, once it reaches the hub, it should take anywhere from 24-48 hours to sit until you can put it up on the market (sort of a let the heat die down thing). In that time, enemy forces can take this opportunity to try to raid the gear.

Rewards for capturing the hub: You'd obviously snag the shipment and keep it for yourself, but unable to sell it on the market.

Rewards for defending the hub: In the event of being able to defend your shipment, I believe getting bonus command points would be a nice little reward (if of course, the damage is 20 mil or above), aside from keeping your crap.

Well, those are my long winded thoughts on it again. Hope I helped.

Well, with a couple of hundred weekly active players and a few dozen active daily players over all time zones, it's going to be rude of me not to spend those CP points building up in the D-UNI wallet don't you think?

Keep what you kill is also very attractive to raiding using cheap or free fittings.

Starlight Burner was kind enough to record the audio of the lecture for me covering this topic. This is for those players who are not wanting to spend the better part of their entire day reading all 8 pages of this thread but are at least willing to sit down for 48 minutes listening to it on SoundCloud.

https://soundcloud.com/doomdog-kollser/pc2-0-and-more-d-uni-lecture

These are both na+»vely optimistic, I think. With the suit slots flattening out maybe there'll be some chance that we can have some matches without proto suits that are competitive, but it will take very careful tailoring of fits, proto weapons, and a whole lot of heart.

This gets back to a question that someone (Bait) asked on Biomassed the other day: Under the new system, what incentive do I have as a new corporation to take on the big boys in PC? The answer: It's maybe a little cheaper. This is all to the good, but one of the major problems with entering PC is also training and the mountain of discouragement new corps face if they don't have knowledge of how to get a team to be basically competent at Skirmish.

The proposed system voids non-landholders almost entirely of direct corporate income, which is a bit of a bother since there are seemingly still some ISK costs in addition to CP.

More Activity and More Conflict
As Districts will become more profitable, more corporations will be interested in owning Districts. Their motivation to claim Districts should prove stronger than Corporations holding and defending Districts they cannot profit from.

District Kredits

On Ringers

To those that disagree with their use, I don't know what to tell you. Expecting nothing but a corp you attack to show and for them to be the only ones allowed just seems ridiculous to me. Look, if you can't win against the best then you aren't going to win at all.

So you get that district against some scrubs, then what. You either fight some other lower tier teams or you take on the big dogs, get 5 capped, redlined, and humiliated then go about blaming it on "Ringers". Maybe focus more of your time taking note of the strategies used, weapons and gear, placements, and your overall general teamwork.

Look, I know you want to win, we all do. But it isn't the ringers holding you back but this mentality that you can't and won't win when you see said ringers. Maybe focus more on improving your game, and less on who you are up against.

I personally take note of other tankers on the field, paying careful attention to fits and playstyle so I can adapt to beat them. If I notice one fit performing rather well, I try it out myself and note it's strengths and weakness. Do the same, adapt or die.

The issues about Ringers you missed in my post. They stop corps from investing in younger players to make them PC ready. Then when new players become PC ready, they will leave the corp or ringer for other corps.

This means that us being in Corps has zero value!
Please explain to everyone the incentive to be in a corporation. Think on all levels, down to the new guy leaving the academy.

Any talk of training I will call BS on because you said you expect PC people to show up at your level through hard work. You don't train people because you think ready people should come to you.

Pretty much your post said, "I liked things the way they were! Fix my lag on cargo hub." The system was broken, period. If you don't see that then you refuse to acknowledge anyone else's view in this game.

So basically, you would prefer it that only a corp is allowed in battle. That way if one doesn't have enough players to field a team, they will be a few men down, giving you the advantage. Or if we don't have enough PC ready players, we aren't allowed to pull from other corps to help field a full A team.

Why does this sound any more fair to you? And by that logic, what would be the point of an alliance between corps. Or for that matter, this term mercenary associated with dust 514.

Currently, beyond payout, in PC 2.0 ringers will give or gain no benefits fighting for non corp related battles beyond that of ISK paid. That may or may not help curb a want for ringers, but when you need to win you pull in the best of the best. Ringers are not going anywhere and I really don't think they should.

I honestly don't understand what you want or expect. You really expect us to hold your hand and tell you exactly what you need to do to win a battle when we are busy fighting our own? Do you honestly think that someone "trained" the top corps in PC to do PC's.

And these same ringers don't mind helping others out. Big corps give away districts rather frequently as well. These big corps were little guys at one time, and through hard work and team work they made them into what they are today.

In the end man, I just don't understand what you expect or want. I'm sorry, but we aren't going to hold your hand so you can get a foothold. That's your responsibility and not ours, and still yet, acting as if no one is at all willing to help is just wrong. It would seem to me that your problem isn't the ringers, but your mentality going in.

If you want to win, I'm sorry, you are going to have to lose and learn like the rest of us.