These are both na+»vely optimistic, I think. With the suit slots flattening out maybe there'll be some chance that we can have some matches without proto suits that are competitive, but it will take very careful tailoring of fits, proto weapons, and a whole lot of heart.

This gets back to a question that someone (Bait) asked on Biomassed the other day: Under the new system, what incentive do I have as a new corporation to take on the big boys in PC? The answer: It's maybe a little cheaper. This is all to the good, but one of the major problems with entering PC is also training and the mountain of discouragement new corps face if they don't have knowledge of how to get a team to be basically competent at Skirmish.

The proposed system voids non-landholders almost entirely of direct corporate income, which is a bit of a bother since there are seemingly still some ISK costs in addition to CP.

District Kredits

On Ringers

To those that disagree with their use, I don't know what to tell you. Expecting nothing but a corp you attack to show and for them to be the only ones allowed just seems ridiculous to me. Look, if you can't win against the best then you aren't going to win at all.

So you get that district against some scrubs, then what. You either fight some other lower tier teams or you take on the big dogs, get 5 capped, redlined, and humiliated then go about blaming it on "Ringers". Maybe focus more of your time taking note of the strategies used, weapons and gear, placements, and your overall general teamwork.

Look, I know you want to win, we all do. But it isn't the ringers holding you back but this mentality that you can't and won't win when you see said ringers. Maybe focus more on improving your game, and less on who you are up against.

I personally take note of other tankers on the field, paying careful attention to fits and playstyle so I can adapt to beat them. If I notice one fit performing rather well, I try it out myself and note it's strengths and weakness. Do the same, adapt or die.

So basically, you would prefer it that only a corp is allowed in battle. That way if one doesn't have enough players to field a team, they will be a few men down, giving you the advantage. Or if we don't have enough PC ready players, we aren't allowed to pull from other corps to help field a full A team.

Why does this sound any more fair to you? And by that logic, what would be the point of an alliance between corps. Or for that matter, this term mercenary associated with dust 514.

Currently, beyond payout, in PC 2.0 ringers will give or gain no benefits fighting for non corp related battles beyond that of ISK paid. That may or may not help curb a want for ringers, but when you need to win you pull in the best of the best. Ringers are not going anywhere and I really don't think they should.

I honestly don't understand what you want or expect. You really expect us to hold your hand and tell you exactly what you need to do to win a battle when we are busy fighting our own? Do you honestly think that someone "trained" the top corps in PC to do PC's.

And these same ringers don't mind helping others out. Big corps give away districts rather frequently as well. These big corps were little guys at one time, and through hard work and team work they made them into what they are today.

In the end man, I just don't understand what you expect or want. I'm sorry, but we aren't going to hold your hand so you can get a foothold. That's your responsibility and not ours, and still yet, acting as if no one is at all willing to help is just wrong. It would seem to me that your problem isn't the ringers, but your mentality going in.

If you want to win, I'm sorry, you are going to have to lose and learn like the rest of us.