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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.25 12:38:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:If the DK is split up over all members in corp then purges of players that don't play a lot will happen.They come home one day and say who kicked me for playing Planet side 2 Bro that's why. read the 7day contribution part again ? not sure what you mean. When Clones are sold, a secondary currency is generated, District Kredits (DK/DeekayGÇÖs), in direct proportion to each corporation members 7 day Command Point contribution, and automatically placed in the wallet of all corporation members, at a certain price per Clone Found it Thanks I still don't understand this. Corp members that contribute as in sending CP to corp to fight battles? Corp members that do missions that make CP? Only these Corp members get DK from Corp Battles even if they didn't fight in the battle and alliance people did the work but they did CP missions?
Please correct me if I am wrong 1.PC Corp player plays pubs only 24 hours a day seven days a week generating CP for His PC active Corp playing THE DUST514 GAME but he doesn't Deploy into PC matches for his Corps district. 2. Alliance Members plays PC Gamemode helping his alliance keep districts but doesn't get any DK for his help but that No lifer pub crawler with the most CP generated for his pc corp gets the most DK? If this is correct this sounds broken to me please correct me. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 12:51:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Please correct me if I am wrong 1.PC Corp player plays pubs only 24 hours a day seven days a week generating CP for His PC active Corp playing THE DUST514 GAME but he doesn't Deploy into PC matches for his Corps district. 2. Alliance Members plays PC Gamemode helping his alliance keep districts but doesn't get any DK for his help but that No lifer pub crawler with the most CP generated for his pc corp gets the most DK? If this is correct this sounds broken to me please correct me. The machinery of capitalism is oiled with the blood of the workers. That 'no-lifer' is providing the command points to fuel this operation of the corp.
I'm content with both mission runners and PC runner having value in a corporation. Your alliance still holds a role of strategic asset management and treatises.
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Haerr
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.25 12:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions.
DKITEM
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Sirpidey Adtur
Aloren Foundations
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Posted - 2015.05.25 13:20:00 -
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Have there been any thoughts as to having certain districts have unique properties? So that district 8184 isn't the same thing as district 8183.
Perhaps have a small bonus or penalty to certain things on each district, that NEVER (or very rarely) changes.
The air in this district causes plasma weapons stabilize slightly, increasing range 10%, but decreasing damage 10%. The ground in this district causes the wheels on LAVs to spin. LAVs have -10% torque.
Stuff like that. Things that the corp that is defending a district can plan around, and have the homefield advantage, while still giving the same bonuses to attacking corps. |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 13:43:00 -
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[Idea] Use District Kredits to sell your unallocated skill points (this excludes passively gained SP).
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=199395&find=unread
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 13:59:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:* When Clones are sold, a secondary currency is generated, District Kredits (DK/DeekayGÇÖs), in direct proportion to each corporation members 7 day Command Point contribution, and automatically placed in the wallet of all corporation members, at a certain price per Clone
* The players contribution can be tracked on a separate UI page accessible by the corporation members
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:07:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote: ... but that No lifer pub crawler with the most CP generated for his pc corp gets the most DK?
That 'no-lifer' is providing the command points to fuel this operation of the corp. I'm content with both mission runners and PC runner having value in a corporation.
^ Agreed with Jadek. A design which emphasizes activity is a good design. Further, if CP is hard to come by, highly active newbros may -- for the first time ever -- become a valuable asset to PC Corps; could work wonders with retention rates.
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:09:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:CCP Rattati wrote: Dedicated Conquest Mercenaries (Ringers) We hope that the influx of activity will make it less viable to run a multi-district holding corporation, relying only on ringers to fight its battles. If it is still perceived as a problem, we will consider some Command Point costs to make it less profitable option to rely solely on them. Our vision is that corporations instead, recruit, train and retain members, and they in turn generate Command Points for the greater good of the Corporation, and eventually earning the right to be on the competitive roster. One limitation of ringing will be that ringers will not earn DKGÇÖs from Battle, only members belonging to the attacking and defending corporations will earn DKGÇÖs for battles.
ThatGÇÖs it for now, we are actively developing this feature so any feedback is welcome.
So it is going to be absolutely not viable to be a mercenary now from what i am understand or even help alliance members? Other than that everything seems to look pretty good. any ETA is it still june/july? The only thing you are not getting is DK's from battle. You will need to get those from your own corp payouts if you want them. That is literally the only thing ringers are not getting. So if that is your definition of "absolutely not viable", I guess we disagree 100%. So the payout for mercs is going to be pretty much the same as it currently is with nothing else added from what im understandings?
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:09:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Maybe the bottom module slots on your warbarge are unlocked with using District Kredits...not sure what bonuses they could be at the moment. ... this is very smart!
(will raiders be able to loot DKs?)
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:15:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:So the payout for mercs is going to be pretty much the same as it currently is with nothing else added from what im understandings? PC victors also get what used to be the losing sides' share of salvage.
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
579
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:16:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:If the DK is split up over all members in corp then purges of players that don't play a lot will happen.They come home one day and say who kicked me for playing Planet side 2 Bro that's why. read the 7day contribution part again Do this on a alliance level also! still think alliance level would be good or maybe alliance could hold districts in itself.How are alliances in eve ? Do alliances own anything in Eve? |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:25:00 -
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We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
579
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that.
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
579
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:30:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. Ok What does the PC Corp Eve side pilot get for Doing OB Support since he is in the dust corp and is in the PC Battles? |
Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
579
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:32:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. I don't agree with this |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:38:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. Ok What does the PC Corp Eve side pilot get for Doing OB Support since he is in the dust corp and is in the PC Battles? The warm fuzzies that they are furthering the goals of the corporation with great big lasers.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:43:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. It's the same as it is in EVE. Alliances are a corporation for corporations. You can share the use of facilities, alliance chat, etc. It's a social feature for organizing like-minded people who might not want to share the same roof in one single corporation (as the logistical strain of a several thousand member corp is a lot to maintain).
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alias lycan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions. If this is the case then i see no reason to use DK's new paint jobs dont interest me |
dzizur
Nos Nothi
369
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:56:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. Ok What does the PC Corp Eve side pilot get for Doing OB Support since he is in the dust corp and is in the PC Battles?
Erm.. couldn't you just pay him for helping out with ISK that he helped you win?
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
372
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Posted - 2015.05.25 14:59:00 -
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alias lycan wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions. If this is the case then i see no reason to use DK's new paint jobs dont interest me
I bet you want OP gear for DK's ? :P wouldn't that be stupid? I mean, people are always complaining about proto stomp, now we got experimental and officer stuff, and you still want something better? eh..
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:00:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that.
you will quickly find yourself at odds with the community at whole on this matter |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:09:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. you will quickly find yourself at odds with the community at whole on this matter I (for one) wouldn't mind seeing Corps fight their own battles.
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:11:00 -
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@Adipem Nothi Same feeling here.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions. Since PC level warfare, is akin to becoming pirates you can have the pirate suits, as well as other, unlawful entities in the game readily accessible to them for DK.
I may have missed the point in the thread somewhere, I just woke up, but if I'm understanding right you can no longer get ISK directly from PC right (aside from battles) ? You have to use the DK credit that you earn during battles just to make an ISK profit from PC?
Also, with raiding. Sounds like a great opportunity for introducing players to PC without the stress piled on all at once. But will Raiding really be that profitable and worth it? Maybe if you guys found the time later down the line we could capture a small amount of Assets for whatever the type of planet infrastructure it is.
Whenever we get the salvage thing in place we could repurpose one of the infrastructures to make specific experimental weapons and maybe even officer weapons to our choosing. Raiders could then come along and raid a district for the sweet chance of getting some good gears in the enemy corporations weapons cache.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:17:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. you will quickly find yourself at odds with the community at whole on this matter I (for one) wouldn't mind seeing Corps fighting their own battles. 110% Agree. I'm so tired of everybody trying to hold hands in PC.
It will be nice to finally see people attacking each other in mass again.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:17:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:We are not implementing anything to benefit alliances. Alliances exist as a strategic element and as such must provide its own benefit. There is no built-in benefit intended, now or ever. Ringers helping alliance buddies, is nothing more and nothing less, than exactly that. you will quickly find yourself at odds with the community at whole on this matter
The Think Tank has, as far as I know, unanimously, supported this plan.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:19:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I may have missed the point in the thread somewhere, I just woke up, but if I'm understanding right you can no longer get ISK directly from PC right (aside from battles) ? You have to use the DK credit that you earn during battles just to make an ISK profit from PC? Yeah, you keep the ISK value of what you kill in PC battles.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:20:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions. Since PC level warfare, is akin to becoming pirates you can have the pirate suits, as well as other, unlawful entities in the game readily accessible to them for DK. I may have missed the point in the thread somewhere, I just woke up, but if I'm understanding right you can no longer get ISK directly from PC right (aside from battles) ? You have to use the DK credit that you earn during battles just to make an ISK profit from PC? Also, with raiding. Sounds like a great opportunity for introducing players to PC without the stress piled on all at once. But will Raiding really be that profitable and worth it? Maybe if you guys found the time later down the line we could capture a small amount of Assets for whatever the type of planet infrastructure it is. Whenever we get the salvage thing in place we could repurpose one of the infrastructures to make specific experimental weapons and maybe even officer weapons to our choosing. Raiders could then come along and raid a district for the sweet chance of getting some good gears in the enemy corporations weapons cache.
Clones are sold from Districts, for Command Points earned by members, and result in a lot of ISK for the corporation.
That sale also places DK's into the wallets of Command Point contributing members of the corp.
DK's and ISK, plus salvage can be earned also from fighting on behalf of the Corporation in PC battles.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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alias lycan
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:25:00 -
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dzizur wrote:alias lycan wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions. If this is the case then i see no reason to use DK's new paint jobs dont interest me I bet you want OP gear for DK's ? :P wouldn't that be stupid? I mean, people are always complaining about proto stomp, now we got experimental and officer stuff, and you still want something better? eh.. I actually dont want DK's at all i believe its a wasted effort. Theres no need for more currencies but if your're gonna add them at least make it worthwhile or give us an option to exchange them. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.05.25 15:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Has there been discussion in the Think Tank on the kinds of items can be purchased with District Kredits? Just that they cannot be more powerful than normal items. They need to be exclusive, and different. SKINs are an obvious first step, and I am open to suggestions. Since PC level warfare, is akin to becoming pirates you can have the pirate suits, as well as other, unlawful entities in the game readily accessible to them for DK. I may have missed the point in the thread somewhere, I just woke up, but if I'm understanding right you can no longer get ISK directly from PC right (aside from battles) ? You have to use the DK credit that you earn during battles just to make an ISK profit from PC? Also, with raiding. Sounds like a great opportunity for introducing players to PC without the stress piled on all at once. But will Raiding really be that profitable and worth it? Maybe if you guys found the time later down the line we could capture a small amount of Assets for whatever the type of planet infrastructure it is. Whenever we get the salvage thing in place we could repurpose one of the infrastructures to make specific experimental weapons and maybe even officer weapons to our choosing. Raiders could then come along and raid a district for the sweet chance of getting some good gears in the enemy corporations weapons cache. Clones are sold from Districts, for Command Points earned by members, and result in a lot of ISK for the corporation. That sale also places DK's into the wallets of Command Point contributing members of the corp. DK's and ISK, plus salvage can be earned also from fighting on behalf of the Corporation in PC battles.
Sweet, all we need is 16 man deployment or at least two squads of 8 and then well have one of the major components in getting Lucent Echelon started as a corp.
This is looking very good Rattati and I'm deeply pleased, you have no idea. PC has been nothing but a blue doughnut of top tier players not wanting to fight and generate mountains of ISK pretty much since its inception.
Watching New Eden burn is one of my favorite recreational activities.
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