A lot of very interesting ideas and possibilities here, are there/when will there be some actual numbers available so we can see the actual design beyond the core conceptual aspect?







This imo is an extremley valid sentiment and one I'm in agreement with. All previous announcements about the "BMKs/now DKs" implied a whole new, seperate class of suits, equipment (and hopefully vehicles). SKINs alone really arent any sort of incentive let alone replacement for the isk that was removed from PC payouts.
If we're still without actual elements/items that DK will purchase at this current juncture (post PC payout devaulation pending currency replacement) then I suggest that DKs be usable immediately as isk in the main store as well as usable as a universal currency in the LP store. Repricing etc need not occur, provided the DK payout ratio is better than FW payout ratios ie. such and such is 100 LP or 100 DK. DK Benefit being the ability to shop any of the factional stores without having to fight the factional matches. Of course this is a placeholder for an ACTUAL DK store and its implements being generated and released.
DK also being able to be used to purchase WB components could be a small benefit to DKs.

Its almost like pc 2.0 was designed to be against exploits or something.

Its almost like pc 2.0 was designed to be against exploits or something.

I (for one) wouldn't mind seeing Corps fighting their own battles.

who do you think fights the battles in NULL sec?

I don't have that list. Is it the same handful of players, day after day?

99% of this proposal is fantastic.

The 1 percent of it however, the 'Keep what you kill...' Is this based on the individual or is it the team as a whole, and the total isk value of destroyed gear divided up evenly?

If its as a whole, then its 100% cool. (i'm pretty sure its this, but i want to 100%)

If its by individual, what payout method is in place for Logis to earn thier fair share of ISK?

Now we have to figure out what to spend district kredits on. Here is a controversial idea, but one that keeps the end game of the skill tree in mind.

[Idea] Use District Kredits to sell your unallocated skill points

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=199395&find=unread

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TL;DR
-Unallocated active & boosted sp goes into a implant production.
-Size of raw components to build implant to is determined by your warbarge module level = 5 grades, 5 levels.
-Components are purchased with AUR or District Kredits
-You chose how long it takes to produce. Faster = more skill wastage, Longer = less skill wastage
-Extra crafting production slots to speed up industry rate are bought with AUR or District Kredits
-You sell it, use it, or craft it with salvage or booster.
-Crafted item makes run of modifer pirate implants for special clone not allowed in high sec battles, or makes high powered boosters
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Also we're getting into "resource creep" territory at this point aren't we? As of PC 2.0 we'll have ISK, AUR, SP, warbarge components, CP, DK, and clones. That's a lot of stuff to keep track of

+ LP for each faction

SP is a very touchy subject...

Also we're getting into "resource creep" territory at this point aren't we? As of PC 2.0 we'll have ISK, AUR, SP, warbarge components, CP, DK, and clones. That's a lot of stuff to keep track of

It's peoples sense of accomplishment and progression in this game and to alter it is something certainly not to take lightly in any respects. While I too am at around 44m SP there are super vets in the game who are already pushing 150-160m skill points. It was calculated a while back that if you had the money to stock up on Omega and stack them for 85 weeks with active play you could complete the Skill Tree ~260m SP. I don't believe this factored in Instant Boosting after battles. There will come a point where people are going to run out of things to spend their points on, which forces CCP to perpetually make new things to fill this tree which isn't very ideal in terms of costs for a developer.

There is also the feeling of grind in getting things to level 5 on a skill tree which people don't enjoy if they're not maxing boosters. Instead, getting to a point of maxing your cores and setting on a suit and play style you enjoy, while turning additional SP into a resource you and stockpile, sell, trade, or gift carries a difference sense of progression and daily accomplishment.

There's the recruitment tool aspect I discussed in the topic of being able to use the stockpiled implants to get your friends into Dust more quickly. 10 million lifetime SP is that key point for beginning to be battle effective in PC. The wait and trail by fire for a newbie has it's merits, we all went through it, yet there is a zeitgeist of the games industry to reward instant gratification. CCP games should keep New Eden hard and unforgiving, but when getting people into their games friends rewarding friends with starter SP taken from their own characters feels like a solution that can satisfy both sides of the argument for gratification and process development.

Spreadsheet warriors and new player assistance providers unite!

You seem to have covered all the bases but our player base has been very clever at finding exploited...

... this need to be a one man army diminishes.

... nerfing blaster maddies?

+ LP for each faction

Regarding District Credits (DK):
It states that it's possible to award this to participants in a PC battle as an end of battle reward.

What's stopping dedicated ringers to "corp jump" for each match?

Regarding District Credits (DK):
It states that it's possible to award this to participants in a PC battle as an end of battle reward.

What's stopping dedicated ringers to "corp jump" for each match?

I completely disagree with the premise of equal distribution DK's for active involvement in building up command points. There is a clear difference between a member completing daily mission's and active A-team player in PC. The idea that selling clones for DK's is evenly distributed, is again absolutely absurd.

It should be in the CEO's authority to distribute the DK's just like ISK and the taxing system. Incentive for higher rewards should be an option just like equal rewards.

I completely disagree with the premise of equal distribution DK's for active involvement in building up command points. There is a clear difference between a member completing daily mission's and active A-team player in PC. The idea that selling clones for DK's is evenly distributed, is again absolutely absurd.

It should be in the CEO's authority to distribute the DK's just like ISK and the taxing system. Incentive for higher rewards should be an option just like equal rewards.