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CCP Frame
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:05:00 -
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Dear players,
We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC.
Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :)
CCP Frame, CCP Community Team
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1607
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:05:00 -
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Unexpected. Nonetheless, cool.
Our lives are nothing but a means to an end.
AIV member.
21 day EVE trial.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
378
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:09:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :)
Um, yay
sooner than expected.
Molestia approved
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
338
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:10:00 -
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Alright, sweet.
Now lets see what other things were unexpectedly broken with this hotfix.
"Life is bitter, so atleast coffee should be sweet." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu)
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Cheydinhal Guard
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
530
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:14:00 -
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It begins 
Be the mercenary of tomorrow, today. Go beyond with Aurum!
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
374
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:16:00 -
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Wow! That was unexpected! Let's see how it goes ;)
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
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duster 35000
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
378
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:17:00 -
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Cheydinhal Guard wrote:It begins
it begins: CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS HOTFIX ECHO YAY!
...
Molestia approved
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g li2
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
RISE of LEGION
616
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:19:00 -
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Fast and unexpected.
I'm heavy
G.A.C.
CHACALES
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anaboop
NECROM0NGERS
159
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:26:00 -
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Wow :/, that dispersion module, using missiles. Useless. why not remove missiles from the game.
Fully sick Anaboop trading card
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback.
4695
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:35:00 -
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Nice! What a great surprise to have this morning.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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Edgar Reinhart
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:39:00 -
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Thank you for all your work on this. I look forwards to being killed in new and interesting ways whilst coming to terms with my shiny new starter fits. I expect mainly by my own plasma cannon.
Edgar Reinhart has committed suicide
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xxxxx (Plasma Cannon) Edgar Reinhart
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norttheantiv
Negative-Feedback.
166
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:48:00 -
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Any chance the map rotation has been changed to reduce the railway map?
Winner EU Squad Cup
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
783
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:51:00 -
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My Plasma cannon says thanks.
Also, fingers crossed for more MCC map and less Train map.
GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
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badawgga FALLIN
Eternal Beings
RISE of LEGION
5
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:55:00 -
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This new fix has lost my so..as of rite now I'm at -1,119,354....Thank..
All I want is my hard earned points.. |
Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
635
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:55:00 -
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The Starter fittings seem to be unfinished.
My Minmatar and Amarr alts both still have a "sniper" fitting. The version on the Amarr also breaks its PG limit. 
The new fitting doesn't seem to be there. |
Mordecai Snake
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
96
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:59:00 -
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Some equipment don't have increased max carried:
Compact Nanohive
Ishukone Nanohive
Ishukone Gauged Nanohive
Militia Nanohive
Boundless Proximity Explosive
Viziam Flux Uplink was only increased by 2 |
LudiKure ninda
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
234
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:00:00 -
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No simple trading????? 
( -í° -£-û -í°)
Send your isk here!
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
38
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:17:00 -
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From a let down on the 5milly reward clone challenge , to a holy wowzer's you did it again CCP lol pretty good stuff , very unexpected . good surprise with some solid number's to back them up. time to re-invent the wheel again ( new suits coming right up ) .
proud -ÜG£ºGéèGüÄG¥¥ß+Ça¦+a++GëÇ-즫GÇåG¥¥ß+Ça¦+a++GüÄGü¦-¦G£ºa+Ü
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7 Djin
The Hundred Acre Hood
RISE of LEGION
50
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:22:00 -
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The skill cap needs to be reset today to bring it back on schedule and to maximize Echo playtime. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
7488
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:23:00 -
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\o/
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8327
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:30:00 -
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Warlords 1.1 should have simple player trading. This was just a handful of balancing changes + myofib stim jump increase.
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2308
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:30:00 -
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THANK ****ING GOD THAT STUPID SNIPER LOADOUT IS GONE.
I have some very, very mixed feelings about the sniper rifle weapon due to how it 'encourages' people to (not) play and the behaviours they (don't) learn with instant access to it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
636
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:17:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:THANK ****ING GOD THAT STUPID SNIPER LOADOUT IS GONE.
I have some very, very mixed feelings about the sniper rifle weapon due to how it 'encourages' people to (not) play and the behaviours they (don't) learn with instant access to it.
I agree that a sniper starter loadout was pretty ********. Sniping is supposed to be a higher level playstyle in Dust, due to how the game dynamics work. Without people in the meat grinder, most of the roles run into issues.
However, the loadout seems to interact weirdly with existing characters. Both my Amarr and Minmatar still have a Sniper and no Recon, but the Amarr Sniper is above the PG limit. |
Green Means Go
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:40:00 -
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"dust should be fun"...
every patch, you suck all the fun out of this game......
50% decrease to droplinks is just plain wrong!
Dust is a grindfest as it is!
NOW i get to spend my entire time redeploying links instead of actually killing scrubs.
Thanks!
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
637
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:50:00 -
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Green Means Go wrote:"dust should be fun"...
every patch, you suck all the fun out of this game......
50% decrease to droplinks is just plain wrong!
Dust is a grindfest as it is!
NOW i get to spend my entire time redeploying links instead of actually killing scrubs.
Thanks!
And still no indicator for active equipment!
IMO an equipment UI would make placing uplinks and other stuff far less tedious. It would allow you to focus on everything else more easily and always know exactly which pieces of equipment are still alive and how much bandwith you have to spare. |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9359
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:54:00 -
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Looks like the expanded max equipment carried is either incomplete or missing on a bunch of equipment
Amarr are the good guys
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2542
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:02:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Green Means Go wrote:"dust should be fun"...
every patch, you suck all the fun out of this game......
50% decrease to droplinks is just plain wrong!
Dust is a grindfest as it is!
NOW i get to spend my entire time redeploying links instead of actually killing scrubs.
Thanks!
And still no indicator for active equipment! IMO an equipment UI would make placing uplinks and other stuff far less tedious. It would allow you to focus on everything else more easily and always know exactly which pieces of equipment are still alive and how much bandwith you have to spare.
Personally, i want an equipment UI for everybody, but for logis, and logis only, the UI should be a control interface that lets them toggle equipment on/off, configure equipment parameters(e.g. hive = no grenades) and self destruct.
Coupled with the ability to hack equipment, we'd have a couple new classes: scavenger logis and parasite logis.
Or maybe we'd end up with logi queens directing a few worker logis.
@ CCP: Nice work on the patch devs, thank you - got a day off so about to dive in 
PSN: RationalSpark
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UlyssesWrath
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:08:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :)
Can you give me 5 million Sp in return i shall give you the bpo that i don't want cause i think dmg mods shouldn't exist since they make the game harder to play |
1913 DfLo
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
314
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:16:00 -
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Interesting. We can hop around now.
We're ScReWeD uP
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
48
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:27:00 -
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Yea, Encountered my first bunny hopping build, guy was all Cardiac Regulators for jump boost and a plasma launcher in hand, couldn't hit him as he was moving up and down faster then a character normally moves side to side to dodge shots
CCP please nerf this
Its ok, I'm a ninja
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
415
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:54:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:Yea, Encountered my first bunny hopping build, guy was all Cardiac Regulators for jump boost and a plasma launcher in hand, couldn't hit him as he was moving up and down faster then a character normally moves side to side to dodge shots
CCP please nerf this
Haha in one of the recent maps where A is always underground in the valley like setup, I saw a sentinel I believe jump over a building or at least as high as a clone reanimation unit, scared the crap outta me haha. I though the had a jetpack or something.
And yeah I cant find the recon suit and also with all the extra equipment, buying militia or even standard equipment seems pointless as the starter fits have every single equipment you may need.
I think CCP should change starter fits from BPOs to maybe 100 a month or something. It should be allotted and claimed.
Also arent we supposed to have both Shield and Armor AV?
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CCP WhoeverGäó
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Alena Ventrallis
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
2650
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Posted - 2015.03.12 15:29:00 -
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Small blasters do not have inverse dispersion.
Listen to my muscle memory
Contemplate what I've been clinging to
Forty-six and two ahead of me
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QORII BALOGUN
NUBIAN PHOENIX CORP
1
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Posted - 2015.03.12 15:31:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:THANK ****ING GOD THAT STUPID SNIPER LOADOUT IS GONE.
I have some very, very mixed feelings about the sniper rifle weapon due to how it 'encourages' people to (not) play and the behaviours they (don't) learn with instant access to it. I agree that a sniper starter loadout was pretty ********. Sniping is supposed to be a higher level playstyle in Dust, due to how the game dynamics work. Without people in the meat grinder, most of the roles run into issues. However, the loadout seems to interact weirdly with existing characters. Both my Amarr and Minmatar still have a Sniper and no Recon, but the Amarr Sniper is above the PG limit.
Same thing here, no recon, no shield av, sniper above pg limit |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
18492
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:23:00 -
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QORII BALOGUN wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:THANK ****ING GOD THAT STUPID SNIPER LOADOUT IS GONE.
I have some very, very mixed feelings about the sniper rifle weapon due to how it 'encourages' people to (not) play and the behaviours they (don't) learn with instant access to it. I agree that a sniper starter loadout was pretty ********. Sniping is supposed to be a higher level playstyle in Dust, due to how the game dynamics work. Without people in the meat grinder, most of the roles run into issues. However, the loadout seems to interact weirdly with existing characters. Both my Amarr and Minmatar still have a Sniper and no Recon, but the Amarr Sniper is above the PG limit. Same thing here, no recon, no shield av, sniper above pg limit
starter fit changes only apply to new characters.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
8359
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:27:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Starter fit changes only apply to new characters. Is that intentional? Will it eventually apply to veterans?
4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
416
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:28:00 -
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Why does the Medic fits have a sidearm slot? To me its a starter logi and all versions except maybe the Amarr versions should lack a sidearm log
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CCP WhoeverGäó
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Gabriel Ceja
Ready to Play
92
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:37:00 -
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Yeeeeeeaaah!  Finally can't wait to get on and ride in a proto tank.
"Throw on the flux capacitor."
activates fuel injector
"WOOOOOO!!!"
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DUST Fiend
15970
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:48:00 -
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The only reason I'm not excited is because I'm selfish and butthurt that dropships got left out.
Great work guys, keep it up
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
Lokun Listamenn
202
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:50:00 -
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Coming SoonGäó in a client side patch
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
Lokun Listamenn
202
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:56:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:QORII BALOGUN wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:THANK ****ING GOD THAT STUPID SNIPER LOADOUT IS GONE.
I have some very, very mixed feelings about the sniper rifle weapon due to how it 'encourages' people to (not) play and the behaviours they (don't) learn with instant access to it. I agree that a sniper starter loadout was pretty ********. Sniping is supposed to be a higher level playstyle in Dust, due to how the game dynamics work. Without people in the meat grinder, most of the roles run into issues. However, the loadout seems to interact weirdly with existing characters. Both my Amarr and Minmatar still have a Sniper and no Recon, but the Amarr Sniper is above the PG limit. Same thing here, no recon, no shield av, sniper above pg limit starter fit changes only apply to new characters.
Why should these changes not affect all players? As a dedicated scout since forever, I was looking forward to seeing how the recon loadout plays. Although the changes should primarily be to make the game more accessible to new players, the people that play now will still have these new starter fittings when they become vets.
Also, veteran players are the most likely to come on here and post feedback about the new loadouts.
Finally, Istill hope you will reconsider the change to oms and reverse this decision. The oms game mode has been marginalized far too long and iI believe the right direction to take is not to reduce the amount of player owned OMS, but increase it. Instead of removing vehicles, I'd rather see small and/or large turret bases available for players to buy and fit up
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Judo Knomee
MANUFACTURERS OF DEATH
0
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:00:00 -
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Like scouts weren't hard enough to hit. Ccp says " wouldn't it be cool if you could also jump like friggin superman?" Good looking out ccp.
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
Lokun Listamenn
203
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:01:00 -
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UlyssesWrath wrote:CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :) Can you give me 5 million Sp in return i shall give you the bpo that i don't want cause i think dmg mods shouldn't exist since they make the game harder to play
Aw little baby has QQ issues with a blueprinted officer tier drop suit module. Poor widdle thang.
Just put a lid on it and wait for auction house/player trade and then turn it into iskies. Ppl who didn't play the event or newbros that follow after will want it, and ppl like you who can't appreciate that we specifically just got a custom blueprint made just to hand out to the ppl who played this event will be the ones who supply it to them. Naturally at whatever cost you decide to charge for it 
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Gyn Wallace
Ready to Play
292
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:07:00 -
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Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally.
Will the assault scrambler rifle's damage buff be shown in the weapon stats? The currently look as though they don't reflect the damage buff.
The Dust/Eve Isk Exchange Thread
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
505
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:14:00 -
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Mordecai Snake wrote:Some equipment don't have increased max carried:
Compact Nanohive
Ishukone Nanohive
Ishukone Gauged Nanohive
Militia Nanohive
Boundless Proximity Explosive
Viziam Flux Uplink was only increased by 2
You can't expect them to get it perfect the first time.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment, Free BPOs!
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DUST Fiend
15972
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:21:00 -
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Gyn Wallace wrote:Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally.
The problem is they want this game to be next gen feeling with the many level platforming and what not. In theory it's not a bad idea, the problem is the game just ISN'T designed for it.
They can't animate the characters right, so they look wicked funny. The levels aren't designed for it and it lends more power to the jumper just thanks to ease of access to, well, everything.
This game needs PS4 and PC and a much larger dev team. Our devs are awesome, just, not nearly enough of them :/
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
421
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:31:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Gyn Wallace wrote:Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally. The problem is they want this game to be next gen feeling with the many level platforming and what not. In theory it's not a bad idea, the problem is the game just ISN'T designed for it. They can't animate the characters right, so they look wicked funny. The levels aren't designed for it and it lends more power to the jumper just thanks to ease of access to, well, everything. This game needs PS4 and PC and a much larger dev team. Our devs are awesome, just, not nearly enough of them :/
I disagree that we need PS4 or PC to get the best out of this game. Uncharted is awesome and it was on PS3 , even Warhawk( I prefer third person shooters) didnt even have any hit detection issues and ran rather smoothly with no frame rate issues. I think its a bit mm small minded for lack of a better word to assume bigger is better or brand new is better. Just as windows 7 runs better on older laptops than Windows vista, or rather most games ran better on xp than on vista
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
Lokun Listamenn
209
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:35:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Gyn Wallace wrote:Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally. The problem is they want this game to be next gen feeling with the many level platforming and what not. In theory it's not a bad idea, the problem is the game just ISN'T designed for it. They can't animate the characters right, so they look wicked funny. The levels aren't designed for it and it lends more power to the jumper just thanks to ease of access to, well, everything. This game needs PS4 and PC and a much larger dev team. Our devs are awesome, just, not nearly enough of them :/
Larger dev team? Good idea, I would love to work with our pals in shanghai, where do I sign?
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
421
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:38:00 -
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Judo Knomee wrote:Like scouts weren't hard enough to hit. Ccp says " wouldn't it be cool if you could also jump like friggin superman?" Good looking out ccp.
I hope the back pedaling speed penalty makes a huge difference. I can understand not being able to hit a fleeing count but having one dance in front of me and my bullets it but deal no damage really sucked. I was forced to skill into the Mass Driver
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DUST Fiend
15974
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:39:00 -
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Greiv Rabbah wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Gyn Wallace wrote:Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally. The problem is they want this game to be next gen feeling with the many level platforming and what not. In theory it's not a bad idea, the problem is the game just ISN'T designed for it. They can't animate the characters right, so they look wicked funny. The levels aren't designed for it and it lends more power to the jumper just thanks to ease of access to, well, everything. This game needs PS4 and PC and a much larger dev team. Our devs are awesome, just, not nearly enough of them :/ Larger dev team? Good idea, I would love to work with our pals in shanghai, where do I sign?
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
505
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:48:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX's review of Hotfix Echo
I will go through each section as listed in the Dev Blog and give a rating from 1 to 10.
Starter Loadouts
This was much needed, blueberry scrubs will finally be able to do useful things. This will greatly help NEW players (notice the emphasis). The Shield AV fit is awesome, especially with the damage increase and being able to have some AI capability as well. THANK YOU so much for putting Anti Vehicle grenades on the Anti Vehicle starter fit, it makes sense now. Also glad to see a beta suit back in action and I will be testing it out.
HOWEVER: This change should apply to all players, not just newberries. Everyone should be equal. I use militia starter fits every now and then for the LOLS, and I want to use these new loadouts on my main character, and not my academy alt.
Rating: 8/10
Apply the changes to all players, then I will change it to a 10.
Basic Medium Frames
NO. NO. Oh, and NO. Why? Basic suits should never ever be viable, I don't care what anyone says. Basic suits are a means to an end, and the end are the specialized dropsuits. Basic suits should never be viable because they aren't even made to be used in battle, only the specialized suits. Of course there are a few exceptions to the rule.
Rating: 1/10
Movement
Awesome changes here, been waiting for this for a long time. I already love my APEX tiger scout, and now it's going to get more love. This might make more people use nova knives/shotguns/melee.
Rating: 10/10 
Game Modes and Maps
The PC change is good, but the Research Facility forces a little bit more teamwork than the Communications Outpost. However there is the lag problem so this change was definitely needed. But when you fix the lag, remember to bring this map back into PC.
Now the negative stuff. Don't take Vehicles out of OMS. The installations do the same amount of damage to an enemy team as a vehicle does, it is just stationary. Vehicles force people to use teamwork and use AV. With the new AV vamp, it would be wrong to take the vehicles out of OMS, as we now have a more efficient way to deal with them.
Rating: 7/10
Handheld Weapons
Love the HMG change, good job on making the AHMG viable. Some people in PC will have to change their strategies now, which is always good as it mixes the battles up. I also felt as though the LAV did a little too good of a job and carrying HMG wielding heavies. And now their counter is AHMG wielding heavies.
The Assault Scrambler has been UP for a long time, and now it is finally viable. I was tearing things up on my APEX Dragon vX.1 before, and now it's really going to tear things up.
Plasma Cannons needed a serious vamp, and now we got it. Thank you CCP!
Rating: 10/10
Equipment
Deployable Equipment with an increase to 3 carried is awesome, and now I won't run out of Nanos as often.
Cloak fields needed at little bit of a decrease, as I was only able to fit a cloak when I got level 4 scout.
Dropsuit Modules will be interesting. A lot of bunny hoppers now, gonna make snipers hate hate and hate, but it will make people figure out new ways to counter this new method, which will be fun.
Rating: 10/10
Turrets
Thank you so much for the small blaster change, I can do better with an Incubus now, and I suspect more people will find the Incubus viable.
The missile turret change is nice, and I like it, it gives me more time to escape from them, and also makes it so that I don't waste an entire clip because of a speeding LAV. The increased heat up build on Railguns is probably needed, as I found my Tank being blown up too many times because of one shot from the heat up. The Large blaster turrets are gonna be amazing, I already do incredibly well with AV with the blaster turret, and now I'm really going to have fun, however, this might make the community call for nerfing threads, as the increased damage per shot is really going to hurt infantry.
Rating: 9/10
New Vehicle Modules
Shield Regulators - Greatly needed, I hated waiting such a long time for my shields to come back.
Active heat sink - Awesome stuff, will counter the heat build up on both blasters and railguns, and will probably be seen on most railgun fittings.
Active Dispersion Stabilizers - You're really trying the make the blaster AV viable I see. But think about how this will affect infantry, I personally think it will be balanced as AV, but as AI it will be over powered.
Current Vehicle Modules - Thank you for making armor hardening a little more viable.
Rating: 9/10
Light Assault Vehicles
A much needed change to be sure, but this is what I would have done. I would have decreased the normal LAVs health to 75%, but keep scanning range the same. Then I would've brought back Scout LAVs with 50% health and increased scanning capabilities. This would make it so that all vehicles have specialized options.
Heavy Attack Vehicles
Awesome changes here, proto HAVs are really going to rock and they are going to be very hard to kill. However, I do agree that if they cost 700000 isk, they should probably be beast. Thank you for finally forcing teamwork in HAVs by adding a small turret requirements.
Rating: 10/10
SHAVS
Looks cool, I'll see how it plays out. I hope it will have a different color scheme?
Rating: 10/10
Total Rating: 8.5/10
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment, Free BPOs!
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:50:00 -
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Bpo small turrets make my old 3/2 fittings invalid let alone using all the 5/2. I can hardly fit out a shield tank now. I can't speak for armour based ones but I can say that while everyone is tank spamming I will be hanging mine up for the moment. I know it's a pain ring to balance these things without making them op so I'm not mad but I do hope you work on this. |
XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
505
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:51:00 -
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Demandred Moores wrote:Bpo small turrets make my old 3/2 fittings invalid let alone using all the 5/2. I can hardly fit out a shield tank now. I can't speak for armour based ones but I can say that while everyone is tank spamming I will be hanging mine up for the moment. I know it's a pain ring to balance these things without making them op so I'm not mad but I do hope you work on this.
It's the point of progression, just use the STD small turrets on the PRO, and use higher tier gear for everything else.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment, Free BPOs!
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
Lokun Listamenn
218
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Gyn Wallace wrote:Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally. The problem is they want this game to be next gen feeling with the many level platforming and what not. In theory it's not a bad idea, the problem is the game just ISN'T designed for it. They can't animate the characters right, so they look wicked funny. The levels aren't designed for it and it lends more power to the jumper just thanks to ease of access to, well, everything. This game needs PS4 and PC and a much larger dev team. Our devs are awesome, just, not nearly enough of them :/ Larger dev team? Good idea, I would love to work with our pals in shanghai, where do I sign? Inquire Within
Hahahahahahaha hahahahaa oh my sides. Omg! Hah haha... Ohh haha haha haha ah I'mout of breath man
That was a gut buster!
You sir, have never tried to get in touch with the "diligent"(sarcasm) folks with the recruitment team at CCP games.
The page you just linked needs a disclaimer: "All job inquiries will be ignored and deleted"
Naw but srsly good try. You've never tried to get a job with CCP so you couldn't have known better
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
216
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Posted - 2015.03.12 17:57:00 -
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MLT Nanohives don't seem to have amount carried increased. Oh, and thanks for the SP loan CCP (for proto tanks) time to work off that negative.
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback.
360
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:02:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mordecai Snake wrote:Some equipment don't have increased max carried:
Compact Nanohive
Ishukone Nanohive
Ishukone Gauged Nanohive
Militia Nanohive
Boundless Proximity Explosive
Viziam Flux Uplink was only increased by 2 You can't expect them to get it perfect the first time.
And don't forget the State Ishukone Quantum Nanohives
Caldari loyalist
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
42
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:09:00 -
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"i Beleive i Can Fly , i Believe i Can touch The Sky" lol "Can Leap Building's in a Single Bound" lol is That a Bird ? a Plane? " .... i think you know where im going with this one.! lol
Fun using the Myofibril Mod lol Even the heavies can fly lol
im flying pâ+(n+ƒGùçn+ƒ )n+ë== / Gò¡(-¦n+¢-¦GÇ¥)Gò»"""" no! no! no! im falling
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RISE of LEGION
2157
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:30:00 -
[57] - Quote
Please, please, please don't nerf the myofibrils!
(Didn't think I'd ever need to say that  )
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis(Ishukone Nova Knives)CCPArchduke
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3571
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
So I logged in, was disgruntled when I saw half of my fittings invalid as I assumed the PG glitch hit me again, and discovered WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOT FIX!
A nice surprise, thank you CCP!
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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deadpool lifetone
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
43
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:57:00 -
[59] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Please, please, please don't nerf the myofibrils! (Didn't think I'd ever need to say that )
Oh , Oh , Oh how about pro cal sct , with pro mass driver and 15sec cloak , nanohive and core locuses lmao
GåÉn+Pn+êo n+ÇGû+-¦ )o+¿ "BuaHahahahahah"
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HUGH MANITY
POOPTOSSIN' NINJA MONKEYS FROM HELL
7
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Posted - 2015.03.12 19:00:00 -
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WTF!!?? CCP, you really messed sh*t up this time. Nerfing HMG`s(YET AGAIN!) is a ***** move, and all because short range rifles don`t stand up to them? That`s just STOOPID! Really, are you all idiots in that office? The reality of the situation is that rifle SHOULDN`T be able to go toe to toe with a HMG. That`s WHY there are classes, upsides and downsides to each class choice. Putting everything on even ground is foolish...why even have classes? Just make one class with one weapon for everyone? That is common sense, and pretty much renders the Sentinel even more at a disadvantage. Now Myofibril Junkies are JUMPING ONTO BUILDING ROOFS!!! Good thinking there, Scouts were already over-equipped with more options and abilities than any other class. Sentinels are almost completely helpless against Scouts as it is. Now if they are lucky enough to see them coming(invisible to the naked eye AND sensors), can`t even start firing until they are close enough to jump like bunnies, run circles around their slow ass and one-shot them in the head with OP shotguns! As for a lack of equipment in Academy matches... well DUH! How many hours of playing in Academy did it take for you geniuses to realize new players couldn`t AFFORD the PG AND CPU necessary to use them? I bet it took the better part of 2 years to figure that mystery out. I don`t want to go on a rant forever, but there is one thing I want to mention, and that is the lie we were told regarding the BPO item from the 5M Clone Challenge. We were led to believe it would be something ``useful to MOST players`` and that is a lie. I am not likely to trade my Complex Damage Modifier for a 3% decreased effect . You know where you can put that Militia crap? I started an alt, and tried to fit it on a starter... no deal. High CPU renders it useless to even a new player. You guys sucking on paint fumes over there in Iceland? Anyone with the ability to use a damage modifier would go for a basic to begin with anyway, so ...you guys are clueless. No excuses for this nonsense CCP, and I would also like to point out that range nerfing sniper rifles was anti-progressive, you took away the whole point of what a sniper does. Every change you have ever made to ``balance`` this game has been a disaster. You guys suck. |
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HUGH MANITY
POOPTOSSIN' NINJA MONKEYS FROM HELL
7
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Posted - 2015.03.12 19:10:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:The Starter fittings seem to be unfinished. My Minmatar and Amarr alts both still have a "sniper" fitting. The version on the Amarr also breaks its PG limit. The new fitting doesn't seem to be there.
Start an alt, they only appear on new accounts made since the fix.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
3205
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Posted - 2015.03.12 19:28:00 -
[62] - Quote
DAYUM Son! Where'd ya find this?
On a serious note, I had no idea this was coming so soon.... jesus - Fast work CCP!
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
SCV Ready!
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Zipperhead Zeero
Demonite's Legion
0
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Posted - 2015.03.12 19:39:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :)
stims were a terrible idea .how can a scout knife a flying enemy .im a new player who loved this game and the stims just ruined it for me.everyone is flying around with projectile explosives .this just changed the game into somthing else.i was really hoping this game would a long haul fun skill advancement but i don't think ill stay just to be leaped over and mass drived all day by allready op proto who were allready dominating everything.no even the same game i started only a month ago. really discouraging |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1588
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Posted - 2015.03.12 20:27:00 -
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HUGH MANITY wrote:WTF!!?? CCP, you really messed sh*t up this time. Nerfing HMG`s(YET AGAIN!) is a ***** move, and all because short range rifles don`t stand up to them? That`s just STOOPID! Really, are you all idiots in that office? The reality of the situation is that rifle SHOULDN`T be able to go toe to toe with a HMG. That`s WHY there are classes, upsides and downsides to each class choice. Putting everything on even ground is foolish...why even have classes? Just make one class with one weapon for everyone? That is common sense, and pretty much renders the Sentinel even more at a disadvantage. Now Myofibril Junkies are JUMPING ONTO BUILDING ROOFS!!! Good thinking there, Scouts were already over-equipped with more options and abilities than any other class. Sentinels are almost completely helpless against Scouts as it is. Now if they are lucky enough to see them coming(invisible to the naked eye AND sensors), can`t even start firing until they are close enough to jump like bunnies, run circles around their slow ass and one-shot them in the head with OP shotguns! As for a lack of equipment in Academy matches... well DUH! How many hours of playing in Academy did it take for you geniuses to realize new players couldn`t AFFORD the PG AND CPU necessary to use them? I bet it took the better part of 2 years to figure that mystery out. I don`t want to go on a rant forever, but there is one thing I want to mention, and that is the lie we were told regarding the BPO item from the 5M Clone Challenge. We were led to believe it would be something ``useful to MOST players`` and that is a lie. I am not likely to trade my Complex Damage Modifier for a 3% decreased effect . You know where you can put that Militia crap? I started an alt, and tried to fit it on a starter... no deal. High CPU renders it useless to even a new player. You guys sucking on paint fumes over there in Iceland? Anyone with the ability to use a damage modifier would go for a basic to begin with anyway, so ...you guys are clueless. No excuses for this nonsense CCP, and I would also like to point out that range nerfing sniper rifles was anti-progressive, you took away the whole point of what a sniper does. Every change you have ever made to ``balance`` this game has been a disaster. You guys suck.
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:01:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Demandred Moores wrote:Bpo small turrets make my old 3/2 fittings invalid let alone using all the 5/2. I can hardly fit out a shield tank now. I can't speak for armour based ones but I can say that while everyone is tank spamming I will be hanging mine up for the moment. I know it's a pain ring to balance these things without making them op so I'm not mad but I do hope you work on this. It's the point of progression, just use the STD small turrets on the PRO, and use higher tier gear for everything else.
Was a mistake on my part I didn't notice the higher tears c/1 and up. |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
315
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:02:00 -
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No you cant have my isk.... What da f is dat sht ccp? Jumping on top on buildings? Its like playing some super mario with shotguns attached.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
644
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:QORII BALOGUN wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:THANK ****ING GOD THAT STUPID SNIPER LOADOUT IS GONE.
I have some very, very mixed feelings about the sniper rifle weapon due to how it 'encourages' people to (not) play and the behaviours they (don't) learn with instant access to it. I agree that a sniper starter loadout was pretty ********. Sniping is supposed to be a higher level playstyle in Dust, due to how the game dynamics work. Without people in the meat grinder, most of the roles run into issues. However, the loadout seems to interact weirdly with existing characters. Both my Amarr and Minmatar still have a Sniper and no Recon, but the Amarr Sniper is above the PG limit. Same thing here, no recon, no shield av, sniper above pg limit starter fit changes only apply to new characters.
...But there are changes. My Frontline fit now has a drop uplink, for example.
Now I'm even more confused. |
thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
355
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:56:00 -
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Omg those blue bottles on a minmatar anything with kinkats.
It's a whole new worlddddd!!!! |
Lynn Beck
Delta Vanguard 6
2383
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:01:00 -
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Could we please put up the new starter fits(all races) up in the LP store as Blueprint suits for say, 300 LP for the corresponding faction?
Kinda stinks that as a caldari I can't put my sisters in the brain of a minmatar and give them Min Starter fits to grind my K/D down with...
Also the fact i would LOVE to have a Blueprint SCR suit to just instantly demolish Proto CalAssaults with.
General John Ripper
-BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse.
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Edgar Reinhart
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:20:00 -
[70] - Quote
Thanks for all the work here. Sad that the new starter fits only apply to new characters was looking forwards to trying them out. Just checking though after the changes with my Gallente starter fits, all I've got in my fittings, the frontline and medic have updated with the new equipment and also the slot layouts have all changed from 0/3 to 1/2 however my 'sniper' fitting is invalid as it's I think 2 over PG.
Does make slot progression on the Gal suits a bit odd now though...... But I can put my event BPO on a starter suit now. As if they weren't already squishy enough. Have to give them a proper run and see how things go but it feels odd..... More vulnerable somehow.
Had one game and saw the good and the bad of the jump changes. Got surprised by someone running behind then leaping over a crate this seems good.... Watching people scale the scenery and bunny hop plasma canons.... Not so sure but I'm happy to see how things play out with all the changes.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1430
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Posted - 2015.03.13 05:28:00 -
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So, I have stacks of tanks that won't work. Cool ... not really.
Why didn't you just remove them from my inventory? They are useless now. I don't want Blue Belles in my tanks. Squad only except Dust doesn't have vehicle locking or squad only access.
As to the turrets and stuff I'll have to determine if the tanks are something I can sell or trade ... like for a real tank.
Dusted once again.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
450 resource points, max.
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Duani Snipe
Gummibaerenbande 514
RUST415
0
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Posted - 2015.03.13 05:29:00 -
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Why did the av weapons every time get buffed but the DS and ADS were getting lost in the patch progressing?
All swarms are strong as hell, the plasma is slow but now really strong too, a dropsuit can now jump high enough to kill a DS easily. Tanks could be fitted like every one wants to make it, but the DS only can use a Regulator now which cost so many pg/cpu that it wont be useful. In actually matches if some bring an ds/ads 1 minute or 2 kills later u had 2+ swarm launcher guys which kill u in 3 seconds. And all the buffs of the past (for expensive sp would be nerfed) the reps are insane badly for ds and nothing happens to them.
CCP it would be nice if ur Pilots can get some chances too in the future because flying/dodge/and kill at the same times are difficult enough. Maybe some Pilotsuits with ds bonus or reduced modul cost in ds or rep buffs......
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2015.03.13 07:01:00 -
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Duani Snipe wrote:Why did the av weapons every time get buffed but the DS and ADS were getting lost in the patch progressing?
All swarms are strong as hell, the plasma is slow but now really strong too, a dropsuit can now jump high enough to kill a DS easily. Tanks could be fitted like every one wants to make it, but the DS only can use a Regulator now which cost so many pg/cpu that it wont be useful. In actually matches if some bring an ds/ads 1 minute or 2 kills later u had 2+ swarm launcher guys which kill u in 3 seconds. And all the buffs of the past (for expensive sp would be nerfed) the reps are insane badly for ds and nothing happens to them.
CCP it would be nice if ur Pilots can get some chances too in the future because flying/dodge/and kill at the same times are difficult enough. Maybe some Pilotsuits with ds bonus or reduced modul cost in ds or rep buffs......
At the moment its really a isk throwing gadget if u play ads. as a pilot in pc I feel your pain. One of two viable fits left before is not usable now (enhanced hvy extender, hardener, burner) and you're forced to use the booster. However the ads was always my favorite thing in the game but it was abused beyond belief before the nerf to it and buff to swarms. I still did well and assume I still will but the insane lack of fitting capability is annoying. A nice balance will eventually come I'm sure but it takes time and there are a lot of things to work on still. We wouldn't want a return to the days where any unskilled pilot could kill 70 people without fear but yes a slight buff is needed. This coming from someone who cried all over the forums when the Nerf to ads and buff to av came. Patience, an extremely skilled pilot will still kill but av will be spammed while these tanks are spammed.
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2015.03.13 07:09:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:So, I have stacks of tanks that won't work. Cool ... not really.
Why didn't you just remove them from my inventory? They are useless now. I don't want Blue Belles in my tanks. Squad only except Dust doesn't have vehicle locking or squad only access.
As to the turrets and stuff I'll have to determine if the tanks are something I can sell or trade ... like for a real tank.
Dusted once again. deleted my fittings, liking the new progression, they're worth skilling into just play with your fits. I think this is by far the most well balanced day 1 for an update they've had. Not saying it's perfect but things are in a good place. Will be spamming my ascr till the heat build up gets nerfed, which I suggest over nerfing damage more than 5% if decided they are op which they are. Tanks are in a good place though. They don't rule the field and the limitations on fittings are well within bounds.
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2015.03.13 07:21:00 -
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Gyn Wallace wrote:Did CCP intend for people to be able to fit 5 myofibs and jump on to most building rooftops? There don't appear to be any diminishing returns... was this tested? It was amusing for a match or two. Scouts who fit lots of myofibs should be able to jump onto a box, and then onto a roof top. Everyone shouldn't be free to ignore stairs and ladders. Jump height is way over the top, literally. Wait, yes, literally.
A shield based suit stacking jump mods, shoot them and watch them die from fall damage I haven't noticed too much of a problem with sacrificing all survivability to do so. Haven't used the new myros just killed the crap out of ppl enjoying them. Trust me they don't last long. It's been nice having fun and seeing them have fun as apposed to everyone running gal assault with a rr or min adsault being a serious try hard. To stack that much they are shield based with no shielding just get that gun game in. |
JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens
113
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Posted - 2015.03.13 11:09:00 -
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super jump is the most fun i have had in this game in a long time, the tanks are a bit tough to figure out and a couple of minor bugs but this was a pretty cool patch/update
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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Dylan Meisinger
ROGUE RELICS
4
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Posted - 2015.03.13 16:10:00 -
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Doesn't matter how many Shields I have now . Im literally dead before I deploy....
This is what I get for being a loyalist.
It takes skill points to run proto , not skill.
[up the punx]
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
527
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:33:00 -
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Dylan Meisinger wrote:Doesn't matter how many Shields I have now . Im literally dead before I deploy.... This is what I get for being a loyalist.
I haven't lost a single Cal Factional yet.
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Scottish Eye
New Age Empire.
3
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:58:00 -
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 If the jumping is abused with the stimulant stacking why not increase the stamina use for the jump as a penalty without changing the melee stamina usage.  Would take a page of coding for a 3%-5% penalty to stamina usage for each stimulant stacked? |
thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
363
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
Thanks for the free small turrets on the mlt tanks but no thanks.
Please remove them. I will pay for what I want. |
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
529
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:52:00 -
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Scottish Eye wrote: If the jumping is abused with the stimulant stacking why not increase the stamina use for the jump as a penalty without changing the melee stamina usage. Would take a page of coding for a 3%-5% penalty to stamina usage for each stimulant stacked?
Then a person could just use cardiac regs
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Z Vatican
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.03.14 01:37:00 -
[82] - Quote
My opinion on the update.
Well I played Gal Scout earlier and I'll be honest. I was amazed I could do crazy stuff with my Gal scout. I could stack my Kin Cats and run fast as hell followed by the ability to jump high and shotgun everyone. Amazing!
I love the Hand-to-Hand mods. But then again I felt like I was OP. Generally isn't that how we all want to feel like? Besides that I've trolled quite a lot of people.
Ex. HMG Proto sent comes around the corner..... I jump like 4x his height and round around him and kill him.
Pretty fun stuff.
Now for my tanker account. I was pretty disappointed of what has happened as a tanker. I can't have my usual fitting for my beloved tanks because of the stupid small turrets. The only tank NOT changed is the Kaalikiota... tank. I can fit my fitting there but I've also realized that 2 complex heavy shield extenders are not the same as before. So many tankers out and about nowadays but not something I'm worried about. I am no longer PC eligible for my corp now since my tanks are crap. (Not that PC matters that much to me anyways)
In all honestly this patch has Pros/Cons.
More Cons than Pros if you ask me.... |
JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens
114
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Posted - 2015.03.14 03:34:00 -
[83] - Quote
so when you scrubs stacked damage mods and tanked armor it was ok but now a suit that has a bunch of high slots can jump a bit you scrubs go insane. please do the entire dust community a service and delete the game you are only a very very small percentage of the people who pay and play, and are screwing it up for everyone else.
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
0
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:38:00 -
[84] - Quote
My experience on the first match I played was getting freaked the f**k out. I opened fire on a guy right next to me, then he moon jumps in the air and was going to freak out here but I read the update log and get it now...i hate it. I see nothing about fixes to this crappy matchmaking throwing me in with veterans though..
Dev Team...Y U NO FIX?! You realise you're likely losing every new player that joins Dust because of that crap? I've only stayed this long because my PS3's BluRay and PC's HDD broke but that's changing real soon, mightaswell count me as 1 less player now because I'm never coming back.
God...already hard enough as it is, now you're giving vets the ability to moon jump? pfft...
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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UlyssesWrath
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.03.14 09:41:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :)
Dear CCP i hope you go bankrupt |
Z Vatican
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.03.14 15:35:00 -
[86] - Quote
I just think that people nowadays can stack 5 damage mods lol.....
Already have the fitting and I notice the heat build up is just more stupid.
You nerfed railguns and now AGAIN? *sigh*
I'll wait till next update. |
Dylan Meisinger
ROGUE RELICS
5
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:20:00 -
[87] - Quote
Are you guys ever gonna fix the hit detection on light & sidearm rail weapons? Or am i taking a LONG break from dust 514?(probably permanently)
It takes skill points to run proto , not skill.
[up the punx]
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
707
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:59:00 -
[88] - Quote
Dylan Meisinger wrote:Are you guys ever gonna fix the hit detection on light & sidearm rail weapons? Or am i taking a LONG break from dust 514?(probably permanently)
Shotguns and all weapons to. I shot a guy 3 times in the side from 1 metre (he was standing still) and he turned around and killed me after taking no damage to hois 75% armour left.
Gassault Galogi Galsent
Open Beta Vet - 39 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
545
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Posted - 2015.03.16 02:34:00 -
[89] - Quote
JONAHBENHUR wrote:so when you scrubs stacked damage mods and tanked armor it was ok but now a suit that has a bunch of high slots can jump a bit you scrubs go insane. please do the entire dust community a service and delete the game you are only a very very small percentage of the people who pay and play, and are screwing it up for everyone else.
Legion?
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Balistyc Farshot
The Exemplars
RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2015.03.16 06:52:00 -
[90] - Quote
I will outline changes and my understanding:
Blue bottle - Should have been tested with stacking? Come on CCP, everyone stacks everything. (Plates, Reps, Reds, Dmg Mods, Extenders.) Stacking penalties need to be flat and added day one. Not a bad idea, I can see 1-2 clear rails and crates, 3-4 jump over the wall twice my height. This separated combat a lot and has made more perch fighting. I have seen very few players digging in, but that is the only good thing so far. Take your derp sticker, admit it was missed and tell us when penalties are coming. In Pubs they aren't that noticed yet. In PC, they are brutal so it is coming.
HMG Nerf - Why would you pair the blue with a HMG nerf? Please CCP - Think rock, paper, scissor. If you buff paper and nerf rock, yeah rock is done for. No idea on how to fix this because it was OP before, but the dispersion is just awful. The only HMG that was out performing was the standard variant, you should have just nerfed that. Heavy's now have very little role, which means, logis now need to fight more. Rep tools aren't really needed so much (RT on Assaults). Completely flipped the chess board here.
Tanks - Hulls are very interesting. I have seen so many different tanks out on the battlefield and they all had different purposes. The blaster did not need a buff, that was silly. The rail needed heat since you made more turrets mandatory. Adding in the additionally turrets was awesome. Requires tankers to think tactically. I would have taken a page from the real tanks hand book. There are 3-4 guys in a tank for a reason. Make the mods only function with assistance but buff them again, then the tank driver/main gunner in this case, can't also flip on a scanner without the commander hitting the switch and evaluating the data. Maybe give the other turrets all the modules. Or 1 mod per seat filled. Then the tank can be OP because it is 3 guys fighting together.
LAV nerf - Uhm, why do we drive exploding cars now? This thing is a bigger death trap than the gremlin. I crashed into a building full shields and armor before turning into a burning heap. I consider using an LAV, but fast scouts are just safer now. I don't know who or why you would use a LAV now.
Equipment Quantity Buff - I like this a lot. The REs will need the nerf we are owed. Otherwise not needing to class switch on a supply depot is so much nicer.
Scrambler Rifle - Just OP now. Stop trying to explain. We all get it. Yeah, OP. Suggestion on balancing trick from Drifter in COD. Measure the TTK at each distance for each gun on a universally flat median (150 shield 150 armor). Now figure out TTK at each range. Make your chart. If anything can kill more than 2 foes without reloading or overheating it is OP. If anything can kill in under 2 seconds without aiming requirements, it is OP. Think it through.
Now to start shotgunning and REing again, everyone will love this play style. Face Palm!
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Gaius Calinus
Incarnation Soldiers
21
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Posted - 2015.03.16 08:08:00 -
[91] - Quote
Dylan Meisinger wrote:Are you guys ever gonna fix the hit detection on light & sidearm rail weapons? Or am i taking a LONG break from dust 514?(probably permanently)
No they won't... Actually there has never been any real hit detection on the rail-guns, no matter which one you mention...
Lately one of my team mates fired at a gal.ass. and I've seen with my own eyes how he clearly hit the target. But instead of at least loose a bit of the shield, that one started recharging!
Nobody can tell me he didn't hit, they were 3 m from each other at the most, from one side of the null canon to the other...
But don't despair, there are still few things they haven't ruined yet...
It's a hard time for the Caldari loyalists among us:
- Regular Rail Guns - nerved, even aiming makes your gun jumping like you've mounted in some new myo.fibr. the higher the meta, the higher it jumps
- Rail guns - pre loading time... it becomes longer and longer each time they "fix" something, one day it'll be 2 seconds
- Shields - worthless since Echo, they've buffed the scrambler... honestly, I don't think there is any weapon left which doesn't cut through the shields just as you whouldn't have any equipped ...
But I don't complain, there are still possibilities to get the enemy down and those haven't been nerved... yet... But it's only a matter of time, I guess...
Hail Caldari !!
Hail to the Caldari State !!!
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V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
44
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Posted - 2015.03.16 18:03:00 -
[92] - Quote
At least add some kind of drawback to Myofibs, not only penalty for stack, crasy stamina consume so they can jump only once at full high and after should wait for regen... Your maps were not even designed for it.
The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
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edgardo1156
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
11
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Posted - 2015.03.16 23:28:00 -
[93] - Quote
That jump high is fun, but I think that's exgerar and beyond logic. And regarding the tanks does not seem that small turrets apart that even riding the c-1 and g-1 with std modules are fast filling the ra and cpu. And 1 turret seems a waste. In my view they were good as before they needed eraRA and more CPU and a module on each side, and just taking into account the damage that made anti vehicle weapons. Pro least the tanks had given them another color !! CCP bastards! Naik if you think the same
Rindanse ante el Imperio Amarr. Vine a esclavizar de nuevo a los Minmatar que escaparon de nuestro imperio. xD
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cupcake666
Dust 514 Elite Ops
0
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Posted - 2015.03.19 01:13:00 -
[94] - Quote
I have not been able to find this discussion in any other topic forums so excuse me if this is already been discussed.
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why is it that when going into new dropsuit fittings it will not visually display slots & statistics like it does for suits that are already fitted. it makes building new suits very difficult when the very base of the process does not display slots or statistics.I often have ideas of what I would like to do with a new fitting but I have to go through quite a few and delete them till I can figure out the suit I'm actually looking for.why has it taken so long to fix that.? or is there just something wrong with my account. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1722
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Posted - 2015.03.19 13:30:00 -
[95] - Quote
cupcake666 wrote:I have not been able to find this discussion in any other topic forums so excuse me if this is already been discussed.
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why is it that when going into new dropsuit fittings it will not visually display slots & statistics like it does for suits that are already fitted. it makes building new suits very difficult when the very base of the process does not display slots or statistics.I often have ideas of what I would like to do with a new fitting but I have to go through quite a few and delete them till I can figure out the suit I'm actually looking for.why has it taken so long to fix that.? or is there just something wrong with my account.
Sorry I don't fully understand what is happening for you. Do you mean when scrolling through all the suits to create a *new* fitting? And you can't see what the slot layout etc. is of each of those suits?
Not sure if pressing the square button helps you here....or whether I'm taking for granted my knowledge of general slot layouts and I already know what suit I'm gonna choose when creating a new fitting.....
Can you elaborate at all? |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
1727
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Posted - 2015.03.19 17:36:00 -
[96] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:cupcake666 wrote:I have not been able to find this discussion in any other topic forums so excuse me if this is already been discussed.
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why is it that when going into new dropsuit fittings it will not visually display slots & statistics like it does for suits that are already fitted. it makes building new suits very difficult when the very base of the process does not display slots or statistics.I often have ideas of what I would like to do with a new fitting but I have to go through quite a few and delete them till I can figure out the suit I'm actually looking for.why has it taken so long to fix that.? or is there just something wrong with my account. Sorry I don't fully understand what is happening for you. Do you mean when scrolling through all the suits to create a *new* fitting? And you can't see what the slot layout etc. is of each of those suits? Not sure if pressing the square button helps you here....or whether I'm taking for granted my knowledge of general slot layouts and I already know what suit I'm gonna choose when creating a new fitting..... Can you elaborate at all?
just looking at the fitting creation screens now and i think i know what you mean now.
yes that would be useful though can't say I've ever wished it...what i do is press triangle on each suit to bring up their base stats and flick through those tabs. not as useful but thats all i can suggest to you if you're not already doing that.
of course that doesnt show you how your skills modify the base values...
you could also look at protofits.com - that is a fantastic tool and actually gives you more information. just bear in mind it's community run and relies on data exposed by ccp on a regular basis |
cupcake666
Dust 514 Elite Ops
2
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Posted - 2015.03.19 22:43:00 -
[97] - Quote
Thanks. Maybe ccp has been over looking this. Coming up with load outs based on weapons and equipment would benefit from this. |
Koldy Lyte Marven
Y.A.M.A.H
34
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Posted - 2015.03.21 01:29:00 -
[98] - Quote
I see people flying now... no I don't do drugs...
You died? Yes? You know why? Yes? Don't do that again, then
-Koldy L.M., best worst bad@$$ fighter ever =ƒÿÄ
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UlyssesWrath
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.03.21 03:17:00 -
[99] - Quote
Koldy Lyte Marven wrote:I see people flying now... no I don't do drugs...
caldari assault proto i beleive i can fly |
SEPPUKU SAMURAI
KAPPA.514
Imperium Eden
0
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:05:00 -
[100] - Quote
Please put restrictions on hardner simultaneously can be activated.
Unbalance game widespread due to tank of the simultaneously hardner active.
I love command suits!
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1448
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Posted - 2015.03.24 07:57:00 -
[101] - Quote
JONAHBENHUR wrote:so when you scrubs stacked damage mods and tanked armor it was ok but now a suit that has a bunch of high slots can jump a bit you scrubs go insane. please do the entire dust community a service and delete the game you are only a very very small percentage of the people who pay and play, and are screwing it up for everyone else.
Yo JONAH!
From your post I take it you are a jumper?
Until Uprising 1.0 (5/14/2013) I was shield tanker, then armor tanker as shields and rail guns were so broken as to make playing useless. I only switched to armor because shields didn't work and stacking was - Oops, different armor tanking I'm guessing.
Never mind.  <- use Gilda Radner voice.
I just went to my other FPS game and practiced on the jump jets troops. Less of an issue for me now. Although I hate the mechanic as there is
... wait for it ...
No Balance! As in there isn't a compensating mechanic.
If I had a missile with splash damage it would be reasonable, but nothing (rail, missile, blaster) has much of any splash damage these days. Now I have to pull back to the red line and wait out the module cool down timers.
PS: what times UTC are you online? I might have to set my mic up again.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
450 resource points, max.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1448
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Posted - 2015.03.24 08:07:00 -
[102] - Quote
SEPPUKU SAMURAI wrote:Please put restrictions on hardner simultaneously can be activated.
Unbalance game widespread due to tank of the simultaneously hardner active.
That is balanced by swarm missiles that track around corners, even greater than 360 degrees. Many AV solutions are available to compensate. Swarm missiles don't leave trails under most conditions, at least they are not displayed for the vehicle driver (graphic optimizations, I understand). Forge gun rounds don't show either unless you are looking in that direction. Otherwise, surprise! The Proto FG can kill a tank in one clip and I've done it in two shots (Ishu FG, bad driver, weak spot, hardeners ran out).
Note that a lone Merc with Militia gear and no bonuses (SP bonuses do not apply to Militia gear) will only kill a tank if the driver makes a mistake (gets stuck).
Also note that just damaging them gives you +75 WP. If you cannot take them out, damage them repeatedly = profit.
Otherwise, earn SP to skill into the AV you like best and learn how to sneak up on them.
Don't sneak up on me though, send me email first.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
450 resource points, max.
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Z Vatican
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:01:00 -
[103] - Quote
KalOfTheRathi wrote:SEPPUKU SAMURAI wrote:Please put restrictions on hardner simultaneously can be activated.
Unbalance game widespread due to tank of the simultaneously hardner active. That is balanced by swarm missiles that track around corners, even greater than 360 degrees. Many AV solutions are available to compensate. Swarm missiles don't leave trails under most conditions, at least they are not displayed for the vehicle driver (graphic optimizations, I understand). Forge gun rounds don't show either unless you are looking in that direction. Otherwise, surprise! The Proto FG can kill a tank in one clip and I've done it in two shots (Ishu FG, bad driver, weak spot, hardeners ran out). Note that a lone Merc with Militia gear and no bonuses (SP bonuses do not apply to Militia gear) will only kill a tank if the driver makes a mistake (gets stuck). Also note that just damaging them gives you +75 WP. If you cannot take them out, damage them repeatedly = profit. Otherwise, earn SP to skill into the AV you like best and learn how to sneak up on them. Don't sneak up on me though, send me email first.
I have found a way to go against tanks for that xD
Walk up to the tank as if I'm just a scrub trying to shoot the tank with a SMG then when I'm behind them or something with my SMG I shoot my adv plasma cannon and throw 3 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades..... It works... And IT IS HILARIOUS! |
XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
616
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:51:00 -
[104] - Quote
Z Vatican wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:SEPPUKU SAMURAI wrote:Please put restrictions on hardner simultaneously can be activated.
Unbalance game widespread due to tank of the simultaneously hardner active. That is balanced by swarm missiles that track around corners, even greater than 360 degrees. Many AV solutions are available to compensate. Swarm missiles don't leave trails under most conditions, at least they are not displayed for the vehicle driver (graphic optimizations, I understand). Forge gun rounds don't show either unless you are looking in that direction. Otherwise, surprise! The Proto FG can kill a tank in one clip and I've done it in two shots (Ishu FG, bad driver, weak spot, hardeners ran out). Note that a lone Merc with Militia gear and no bonuses (SP bonuses do not apply to Militia gear) will only kill a tank if the driver makes a mistake (gets stuck). Also note that just damaging them gives you +75 WP. If you cannot take them out, damage them repeatedly = profit. Otherwise, earn SP to skill into the AV you like best and learn how to sneak up on them. Don't sneak up on me though, send me email first. I have found a way to go against tanks for that xD Walk up to the tank as if I'm just a scrub trying to shoot the tank with a SMG then when I'm behind them or something with my SMG I shoot my adv plasma cannon and throw 3 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades..... It works... And IT IS HILARIOUS!
All you need is are triple stacked dmg modded swarms with AV grenades and it doesn't matter how many hardeners they got, they are going down if they do not have an escape route.
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SalvadorSlX7
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.27 15:09:00 -
[105] - Quote
CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :)
balance the guns already! |
XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
642
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Posted - 2015.03.27 17:24:00 -
[106] - Quote
SalvadorSlX7 wrote:CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :) balance the guns already!
Balance, what's that?
*takes out RE
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SalvadorSlX7
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.03.27 18:18:00 -
[107] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:SalvadorSlX7 wrote:CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :) balance the guns already! Balance, what's that? *takes out RE
I am sorry i used the wrong word there what i meant to say was make the weapons less broken |
XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
646
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Posted - 2015.03.27 22:54:00 -
[108] - Quote
SalvadorSlX7 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:SalvadorSlX7 wrote:CCP Frame wrote:[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/66992/1/echo.jpg[/img] Dear players, We have been working on Hotfix Echo, and here are the things that you should expect to arrive to Tranquility today, after 11:00 UTC. Drop us a comment and your first impressions of the Hotfix right here once you log in and experience it for yourself! :) balance the guns already! Balance, what's that? *takes out RE I am sorry i used the wrong word there what i meant to say was make the weapons less broken
Oh, I get you now.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1455
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Posted - 2015.03.29 02:17:00 -
[109] - Quote
Z Vatican wrote:
I have found a way to go against tanks for that xD
Walk up to the tank as if I'm just a scrub trying to shoot the tank with a SMG then when I'm behind them or something with my SMG I shoot my adv plasma cannon and throw 3 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades..... It works... And IT IS HILARIOUS!
While you think it is a gimick it is typical Dust play. Nothing really works well, if you were too far away to throw the LD's then your plan would fail. I have rarely lost more than shields on my armor tanks to a plasma cannon, unless someone else hit me first.
So, you must sneak up on a tank. Not a big deal or even a particularly genius move. The cloaked scouts try it all the time. Of course, that tactic would work less well if the modules would active consistently (like the fuel injection to escape with) and if any of the main weapons were effective against infantry.
I seriously don't understand why a main blaster turret is so ineffective against infantry, not just a particular class - all of them. Must be that weird CCP mindset. Or it might be because the game is still fundamentally broken, all the main turrets have significant failure modes. You never know if they are going to work. Worse, you never know when or how they will fail.
My first week back was bad. I must have lost a dozen tanks. Then I determined that the new 1M+ ISK tanks are junk and quit wasting cash on them. Now I am using my inventory of Sicas, Somas, Gunnies and Maddies. Not a big deal, when they are stacked up anyway. If I see players like you about I fall back, hit the red line and either snipe with a Thales to thin you out or with a particle cannon. Either works well enough. I rarely loose a tank to something other than another tank now. I haven't lost a tank in over a week to a single infantry using any weapon. Only teams cause problems.
It isn't really uncommon a tactic in other games. In MOG (My Other Game) we use jet packs and drop C-4 on a vehicle on the way by. If you're good, I am not, you can jump off, float over the vehicle, drop the C-4, blow the vehicle while killing anyone standing close by all before your jet pack runs out. Looks like I need more practice. ;-)
Of course in that game, taking out a tank might well be a suicide mission. One that many don't hesitate to take. Tankers as well, we all run headlong into a group of reds (and purples or blues) with the intent of disrupting their effort. It's messy but it works.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
450 resource points, max.
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1521
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Posted - 2015.03.30 01:09:00 -
[110] - Quote
Echo's okay
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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IM4 PRINC3SS
Ready to Play
1
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Posted - 2015.03.31 22:09:00 -
[111] - Quote
You know what I think is awesome, how CCP increases the cost of tanks 10 fold but you are easier than ever to get remoted from a LAV. I don't know how this wasn't changed yet but if CCP is trying to kill the vehicle aspect of this game they are succeeding. As a tanker I sincerely hope they remove this from the game before they lose even more players than they already have. As for me, I will not be returning and I will ensure everyone I know, knows not to play as well. |
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