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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:26:00 -
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Gun Game. The Art of 1v1.
Dust514GÇÖs playerbase is SORELY lacking this. If I had 200k for every time I saw someone stand completely still while firing a weapon that ISNGÇÖT a sniper rifle, I would have enough ISK to buy Nyain San.
Gun Game is vital to shooting games. Learning it is not the easiest thing, but it will vastly improve your overall experience and gameplay.
FPS games generally boil down to slaying. Slaying is just considered killing a lot of people. In an FPS, killing and not dying are linked. You want to hit the target as much as possible, while being hit yourself as LITTLE as possible.
There are various techniques for doing so. I like to separate them into a few categories; Firing, Strafing, Awareness
Firing
Stances
Killing people is the point of an FPS, so we'll tackle this first. In an FPS, you have a few "Stances" to fire from, that have various effects on your accuracy.
Standing Hipfire is the standard form of firing. You maintain maximum mobility in this stance. Get used to this stance. This is the primary stance for strafe game that we will see later.
Standing ADS is the second standard form of firing. You lose a lot of mobility, which is a DEATH SENTENCE in CQC. ADS is "Aim Down Sights" and vastly decreases the deviation of your bullets from "True Center". In laymans terms, the bullets become less of a "Spray" and more of a "Beam". This allows you to have pinpoint aim and apply maximum DPS.
Knowing when to Hipfire and ADS is extremely important. You don't try to ADS a target facing you at 5m away, and you don't try to hipfire a target at 60m away. The weapon you are using also have a huge effect on when you ADS or not.
For example: The Combat Rifle
The Combat rifle is a fantastic all around rifle, in terms of firing and range (Damage is a whole different story). It is easily able to hipfire at ranges up to 30 or 40m, depending on your skill as a shooter. When ADS'd, it can easily hit targets out to 50 or 70m, although the damage at that range will be vastly different. Now, that doesn't mean that you only ever hipfire at those ranges, and ADS at those ranges. Knowing when to ADS and Hipfire comes from EXPERIENCE. Find a weapon you enjoy and learn to use it.
Crouching Hipfire and Crouching ADS are almost NEVER used in dust. Unless you snipe. In which case, gun game goes out the door, and the rules of sniping kicks in, but IGÇÖm not covering that here.
In dust, you will probably only ever have to worry about the standing ads and hipfire.
Burst Firing
Hop onto Dust. Pull out an AR. Aim at whatever.
Now, Hold down the fire trigger while hipfiring. Note what happens. The bullets come out fairly accurately for a while, and then they start getting less accurate, and the muzzle starts climbing up. The longer you hold down, the higher up the barrel goes and the more inaccurate it gets.
Now try this. Repeat the experiment, but release and then QUICKLY resume firing after 5-10 shots. After 5-10 shots, release and resume again, QUICKLY. Just release and tap again. Note what happens now.
IGÇÖll give you a few seconds to stand in awe. THIS is burst firing. You have lost an incredibly small amount of raw DPS, but have increased your sustained DPS by an incredible amount. The recoil and muzzle climb are almost COMPLETELY GONE.
Now, this isnGÇÖt the same for every rifle. Rail Rifles are similar, but they have to fire in sustained bursts with charge up time in between. Scramblers fire as fast you can pull the trigger, but you have to consider recoil and overheat. Good ScR practice is knowing how many shots you can spam before overheating in CQC, and how many shots you can put out without the recoil getting crazy at range.
Combat rifles are actually the hardest to squeeze maximum DPS out of, but considered to be the most rewarding. The Bursts have a timing interval. Listen to this and practice tapping your finger on a PS3 controller, or do it in game on a wall. This is will get you some really nice CR bursts going. Now, please note that the CR has MASSIVE issues burst firing in lag. This is why the Six Kin is so popular.
Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:27:00 -
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Is this the guide to pressing R1 you were mentioning earlier?
Anything that can be exploited will be exploited.
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:28:00 -
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Knowledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like pie.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:31:00 -
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I wasn't done yet guys... 
Strafing
The GÇ£Not dyingGÇ¥ part of killing. Strafing is done in an effort to throw off enemy aim, promoting longevity. HereGÇÖs an old video from Beta days, featuring ReGnUm and GoD-NoVa. These guys were downright terrifying back in their day, and they still are today. Gun Game carries over from game to game very easily.
Look at 0:41-1:03. If you pay attention, you will see some of the firing techniques mentioned earlier. 0:48 shows how burst firing lets him stay on target and keep putting bullets downrange.
Watch the whole video. He does a much better job of explaining strafing than I can on paper.
You ever meet those people who you just canGÇÖt seem to shoot? They seem to phase through your bullets and drop you in half a second?
THESE are the people who are combining the above two parts. They are strafing and firing perfectly. This will drastically improve your 1v1 game.
Awareness
Now, everyone knows that 1v1 game only goes so far. On large maps, such as the ones in Skirmish or Domination, you will often find that you will be threatened by more than one target at once.
You have a gun, and can really only shoot at one person at a time. Since you can only shoot one person at a time, you want EVERY engagement to be a 1v1.
And guess what? You can do that pretty easily. You have to control fire angles and cover to do so.
Cover
Cover is a wonderful, magical thing. Unlike everything else in this game, it has no hit points. It canGÇÖt be killed. Using cover is a way to reduce the overall damage being done to you. For example, using a pillar. You can stand behind a pillar, strafing in and out of cover and deal consistent damage while having shots hit the cover youGÇÖre strafing behind.
You will take drastically less damage. If you know where the target is from behind cover, you can even start engagements with a GÇ£Pre-FireGÇ¥.
Pre-firing is a STRONG tactical ability to use in gunfights. Prefiring is done by lining up your gun to where the target will be when you leave cover. As you strafe out of cover, you start firing BEFORE you leave cover. The advantage is the fact that you are starting the engagement already dealing damage, giving you a head start in the fight.
In Dust, you can do this to people BEHIND cover as well. If you have scans up, you can watch people through walls. As they turn the corner, you can immediately open fire, oftentimes getting a kill before they can react.
To see this in action, watch This video. ItGÇÖs from BF3, but the form is the same. Prefiring is a powerful technique when used right.
Map Awareness
Map Awareness is a powerful tool in your Dust514 arsenal. ItGÇÖs a combination of knowing the layout of the map, and knowing the general GÇ£FlowGÇ¥ of battle.
HERE ARE THE MAPS. LEARN THEM WELL.
Now, IGÇÖm sure some of you have played enough to learn the GÇ£General FlowGÇ¥ of maps and sockets. For example, everyone knows that Domination on Gallente Research facility features heavy CQC fighting in and around the Supply depot and objective. Or how in skirmish, people like to use the top of the GÇ£MushroomGÇ¥ in the Communications facility to be able to overlook most of the socket.
Knowing where most people travel in maps in crucial. It tells you locations where you can expect enemy fire. Not only that, but by knowing popular areas, you can start to guess where you are being hit from, if you get fired upon while walking around.
This is where cover and map awareness overlap. If you know where they are, you know which pieces of cover are best suited to survive. If you know where they are, you can also move around until you have a place where you can easily fire from, and where its hard to hit you.
Smart use of Map Awareness and cover are what drives Skirmish as a game mode. You have to be able to quickly move between objectives and engage targets safely. Once you learn how to use cover, you will realize that cover has literally been put ALL OVER THE PLACE in city sockets. Those random pillars and boxes are THERE FOR A REASON. USE THEM.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:32:00 -
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COMBINING THEM ALL
Here is the situation.
These pictures will show you how to engage the targets in a combination of cover and map awareness. Strafing and Firing are done in the segments where you are taking down targets.
First priority should be the man closest to you. The man on overwatch is dangerous, but the one on the ground is doubly so. Find an angle to engage where the other two have a hard time hitting you.
After killing him, you want to keep that guy on overwatch where heGÇÖs at, or even keep his head down. Fire a burst from here to do so.
Once he has his head down, switch sides so he canGÇÖt hit you where heGÇÖs at (For when he pokes his head back up). This location lets you easily fire on the third guy.
Once they are removed, you have several locations where you can easily engage the man on overwatch. Pick one and go for it.
After playing for a bit, you can easily start to notice places where you can set up and watch angles.
HereGÇÖs a quick sketch of good spots on the communications facility. One of my favorite spots is fantastic in Domination. Sit on L-11 stairwell and use the height difference as cover. Anyone who wants to walk to the objective has to walk down that path, with no cover. Plop down a nanohive and open fire, you can stop whole groups from travelling down that path with 1 or two people.
Overall, that covers almost all the basics for gungame in Dust. There are more advanced techniques, such as headglitching and reload cancelling, among other things, but these start to encroach upon abusing game mechanics, rather than just good old fashioned gun game.
That being said, those skills are still some worth learning. Everyone decent in FPSGÇÖs know how to reload cancel, and headglitching is just smart use of cover to give yourself an advantage (You can fire easily on targets with only a small bit of your hitbox being visible).
But that is for another time. I will field any questions, and feel free to shoot me a message if you want to squad up. If IGÇÖm not running with a full squad of FA, IGÇÖll try and help you out.
O7 Mercs. Hope to see you on the battlefield.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Leadfoot10
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:32:00 -
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Another good tip is to know your competition....
If you're going up against a shield tanked Cal Assault with a RR, you're probably better off not trying to get into a ranged battle -- close the distance and fight them up close with a shield-biased weapon. |
Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:34:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Another good tip is to know your competition....
If you're going up against a shield tanked Cal Assault with a RR, you're probably better off not trying to get into a ranged battle -- close the distance and fight them up close with a shield-biased weapon.
That falls under fittings and matchup tactics.
I'm just addressing raw gungame. I can make another huge post for that, but I'm kinda done for now. Maybe next week.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are.
Does this really help a lot? If so I will try it, completely for got about is. I can't even remember what mine is set to, but I'm sure it's not 100%. |
Leadfoot10
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:38:00 -
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Here's another one, related to your "watch angle" point...
If you're watching a line of players, let's say there are two of them, running from left to right across your screen. You want to shoot first at the one IN THE BACK, in hopes you'll be able to pick him off before the guy in front knows what is happening. If you shoot the one in front, the guy behind him will almost certainly see it happen and turn his attention to you. Whereas if you pick them off from back to front, you stand a good chance of getting them both. |
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:41:00 -
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Good stuff, Ghost! 
Shoot scout with yes.
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:42:00 -
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Lol,
You need to learn Fox Gaden's method for reserving thread posts.
Good write up.
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:42:00 -
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All this time, I never even considered sensitivity. ALL THIS TIME!!
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:44:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. Does this really help a lot? If so I will try it, completely forgot about this. I can't even remember what mine is set to, but I'm sure it's not 100%.
Don't believe me?
Set it at the lowest possible. Jump and turn.
Set it at 50. Jump and turn.
Set it at 100. Jump and turn.
Find out for yourself.
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:49:00 -
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How important is strafing if I'm 200 meters above ground on a tower firing my AR down below?
Should I just shoot at the enemy MCC? |
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:50:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. Does this really help a lot? If so I will try it, completely forgot about this. I can't even remember what mine is set to, but I'm sure it's not 100%. Don't believe me? Set it at the lowest possible. Jump and turn. Set it at 50. Jump and turn. Set it at 100. Jump and turn. Find out for yourself.
I play at 60% so it's personal preference in my opinion...
Plus I out-slay Ghost if that gives you any indication
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Leadfoot10
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:50:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:How important is strafing if I'm 200 meters above ground on a tower firing my AR down below?
Should I just shoot at the enemy MCC?
In that instance, I would suggest just jumping off and letting gravity take over. lol
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Posted - 2015.03.01 18:56:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:How important is strafing if I'm 200 meters above ground on a tower firing my AR down below?
Should I just shoot at the enemy MCC? In that instance, I would suggest just jumping off and letting gravity take over. lol Hope you're well, Thor.
Same to you bud! |
Ghost Kaisar
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Skeletor Voltron wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. Does this really help a lot? If so I will try it, completely forgot about this. I can't even remember what mine is set to, but I'm sure it's not 100%. Don't believe me? Set it at the lowest possible. Jump and turn. Set it at 50. Jump and turn. Set it at 100. Jump and turn. Find out for yourself. I play at 60% so it's personal preference in my opinion... Plus I out-slay Ghost if that gives you any indication
How on earth can you play at 60%?
I feel like I'm trudging through molasses at 60%. Like I'm a damn heavy suit.
And yes, Skel can outslay me like crazy if anyones wondering.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:01:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:How important is strafing if I'm 200 meters above ground on a tower firing my AR down below?
Should I just shoot at the enemy MCC?
Follow up question: Do you love being sniper bait? 
Haven't seen you post in awhile Thor. Hows it going?
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:02:00 -
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I play at a 100 on everything but ADS, I turned left, right ADS down to 80% |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:08:00 -
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/me feels awkward about ninjaing in
Anything that can be exploited will be exploited.
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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:08:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Skeletor Voltron wrote:I play at 60% so it's personal preference in my opinion... Plus I out-slay Ghost if that gives you any indication How on earth can you play at 60%? I feel like I'm trudging through molasses at 60%. Like I'm a damn heavy suit. And yes, Skel can outslay me like crazy if anyones wondering. I guess I'll have to try it. It's difficult to track how I feel about it though, considering I would need time to get used to any changes. Thanks for the idea. |
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:11:00 -
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Great post
My issues with strafing (besides not being great at it) are which direction I should move.
I'm not always sure if I should follow his strafe pattern or move in the opposite direction. I'm talking about the back and forth glitch strafe
And sensitivity..... I have it very low and when I've raised it I notice I get much worse and overshoot targets a lot
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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:12:00 -
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If I may add something.
You don't always want to engage 1v1. 2v1 gives you a good advantage (if you are part of the 2). Therefore it's always good to play close to teammates. Unless you are off scouting or something. |
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:18:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:Great post
My issues with strafing (besides not being great at it) are which direction I should move.
I'm not always sure if I should follow his strafe pattern or move in the opposite direction. I'm talking about the back and forth glitch strafe
And sensitivity..... I have it very low and when I've raised it I notice I get much worse and overshoot targets a lot
Watch the video.
Best strafe is the counter strafe
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:30:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:If I may add something.
You don't always want to engage 1v1. 2v1 gives you a good advantage (if you are part of the 2). Therefore it's always good to play close to teammates. Unless you are off scouting or something.
Obviously, working with teammates is something you should always do.
Barring that, 1v1 everything.
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:34:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:How important is strafing if I'm 200 meters above ground on a tower firing my AR down below?
Should I just shoot at the enemy MCC? Follow up question: Do you love being sniper bait? Haven't seen you post in awhile Thor. Hows it going?
Good man, busy trying to master all the stuff you posted above. I had a bad habit of ADSing too much.
Burst and hip firing have improved my 1 v 1 abilities quite a bit. I still have to clean up my strafing though.
My biggest problem as Leadfoot mentioned is not running when I should. Mastering a sidearm is also huge. |
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:45:00 -
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Dust is a MMO FPS. Guns here have zero to almost zero kick, recoio, dispresion.
All have to do is to click/hold R1, strafe and aim.
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Posted - 2015.03.01 19:48:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Dust is a MMO FPS. Guns here have zero to almost zero kick, recoio, dispresion.
All have to do is to click/hold R1, strafe and aim.
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Varoth Drac
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Posted - 2015.03.01 22:30:00 -
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Great to see STELLIOS in that beta video. He was always my arch shotgun scout rival back in the day. Had some great 1v1s. He was always a little ahead of me though. |
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Posted - 2015.03.01 23:02:00 -
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I haven't read it yet, but wouldn't me benefiting from this require me not being terrible at video games in general first?
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Cpl Foster USMC
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it was nice to see you yesterday Ghost, until I didn't see you 2 min later....GG
is 'Sniper Hate' still a thing ????
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Posted - 2015.03.01 23:24:00 -
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Cpl Foster USMC wrote:it was nice to see you yesterday Ghost, until I didn't see you 2 min later....GG
Not sure if a reference to me cloaking or DC'ing. 
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Vrain Matari
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Posted - 2015.03.01 23:35:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:How important is strafing if I'm 200 meters above ground on a tower firing my AR down below?
Should I just shoot at the enemy MCC?
o7. Snorted boogers.
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Vrain Matari
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Nice post Ghost. Should be part of the 'Intro to Dust' package.
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cpl Foster USMC wrote:it was nice to see you yesterday Ghost, until I didn't see you 2 min later....GG Not sure if a reference to me cloaking or DC'ing.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 00:27:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are.
This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity.
High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once.
I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 00:59:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity. High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once. I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work.
Yes, please ignore all of the tips presented and focus on the one thing that you don't like.
I showed how controlling angles and using map awareness can help you take on three guys in different directions and win.
It's an in game feature that is free to adjust. If anyone wants to, they can set it to max, or set it to zero. If there are advantages to running it at max, why shouldn't you?
Because it makes you angry that people can jump and turn around really quick, if you botch your sneak attack?
100 Sensitivity won't save you as a sentinel if you're being shotgunned. It will save you if being shot in the back while moving from point to point.
And yes, IRL, you can't just turn around that fast and start shooting. But this is a video game.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:16:00 -
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Here's a tip, run in a squad with 5 other FA mercs using officer and proto gear shooting in unison at individual targets. Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser? |
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:19:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:Great post
My issues with strafing (besides not being great at it) are which direction I should move.
I'm not always sure if I should follow his strafe pattern or move in the opposite direction. I'm talking about the back and forth glitch strafe
And sensitivity..... I have it very low and when I've raised it I notice I get much worse and overshoot targets a lot
use the rock them to sleep technic where you move with there pattern for a sort amount of time till you all of a sudden change the pattern. and circle or figure 8 strafeing is far superior to side to side strafeing.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:34:00 -
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i play 50-50. easier to track strafers.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:48:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Here's a tip, run in a squad with 5 other FA mercs using officer and proto gear shooting in unison at individual targets. Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser?
Hey, I was in that squad!
Everyone wanted to try out an officer weapon. And it lasted for like 5 minutes. Jeez |
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:.
Combat rifles are actually the hardest to squeeze maximum DPS out of, but considered to be the most rewarding.
Was interested (this should be in training ground sub forum shouldn't it?) until I got to the above quote.
Good troll. 8/10
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Posted - 2015.03.02 01:57:00 -
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You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 02:04:00 -
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I wouldn't have my sensitivity at any higher than 0%, including ads.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 02:22:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity. High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once. I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work. Yes, please ignore all of the tips presented and focus on the one thing that you don't like. I showed how controlling angles and using map awareness can help you take on three guys in different directions and win. It's an in game feature that is free to adjust. If anyone wants to, they can set it to max, or set it to zero. If there are advantages to running it at max, why shouldn't you? Because it makes you angry that people can jump and turn around really quick, if you botch your sneak attack? 100 Sensitivity won't save you as a sentinel if you're being shotgunned. It will save you if being shot in the back while moving from point to point. And yes, IRL, you can't just turn around that fast and start shooting. But this is a video game.
I never said anything about the other tips, mainly because there's nought wrong with them. This one, however, is teaching bluebs bad game behaviour.
Yes, it is an in-game feature you can adjust, but clearly you're going to be stubborn and refuse to acknowledge what I've already said on the matter of "Why it's in video games"
As for me getting angry about botched sneak attacks? Never happens, because I never sneak. Scout w/knives or shotgun bores the living hell out of me.
If you think higher sensitivity won't save your sent from a SG, then you're a pretty terrible sentinel fitter. With default sensitivity, I survive them frequently.
Next you'll be teaching people how to camp and how to Murder Taxi....
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Posted - 2015.03.02 02:37:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity. High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once. I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work. Yes, please ignore all of the tips presented and focus on the one thing that you don't like. I showed how controlling angles and using map awareness can help you take on three guys in different directions and win. It's an in game feature that is free to adjust. If anyone wants to, they can set it to max, or set it to zero. If there are advantages to running it at max, why shouldn't you? Because it makes you angry that people can jump and turn around really quick, if you botch your sneak attack? 100 Sensitivity won't save you as a sentinel if you're being shotgunned. It will save you if being shot in the back while moving from point to point. And yes, IRL, you can't just turn around that fast and start shooting. But this is a video game. I never said anything about the other tips, mainly because there's nought wrong with them. This one, however, is teaching bluebs bad game behaviour. Yes, it is an in-game feature you can adjust, but clearly you're going to be stubborn and refuse to acknowledge what I've already said on the matter of "Why it's in video games" As for me getting angry about botched sneak attacks? Never happens, because I never sneak. Scout w/knives or shotgun bores the living hell out of me. If you think higher sensitivity won't save your sent from a SG, then you're a pretty terrible sentinel fitter. With default sensitivity, I survive them frequently. Next you'll be teaching people how to camp and how to Murder Taxi....
So people shouldn't adjust their sensitivity because you think it was meant as a TV size adjustment?
I'll make sure to set mine back to default, I wouldn't want anyone calling me a glitcher. |
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Posted - 2015.03.02 03:03:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity. High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once. I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work. Yes, please ignore all of the tips presented and focus on the one thing that you don't like. I showed how controlling angles and using map awareness can help you take on three guys in different directions and win. It's an in game feature that is free to adjust. If anyone wants to, they can set it to max, or set it to zero. If there are advantages to running it at max, why shouldn't you? Because it makes you angry that people can jump and turn around really quick, if you botch your sneak attack? 100 Sensitivity won't save you as a sentinel if you're being shotgunned. It will save you if being shot in the back while moving from point to point. And yes, IRL, you can't just turn around that fast and start shooting. But this is a video game. I never said anything about the other tips, mainly because there's nought wrong with them. This one, however, is teaching bluebs bad game behaviour. Yes, it is an in-game feature you can adjust, but clearly you're going to be stubborn and refuse to acknowledge what I've already said on the matter of "Why it's in video games" As for me getting angry about botched sneak attacks? Never happens, because I never sneak. Scout w/knives or shotgun bores the living hell out of me. If you think higher sensitivity won't save your sent from a SG, then you're a pretty terrible sentinel fitter. With default sensitivity, I survive them frequently. Next you'll be teaching people how to camp and how to Murder Taxi....
^ flat out ridiculous. Must be a troll.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 03:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10.
I wouldn't tie it to IQ, but yeah, most of this is common FPS sense.
Sadly, I still see blueberries standing still, hipfiring a Rail Rifle at 50m.
And then I feel a pang of guilt as I mow them down.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 03:09:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:.
Combat rifles are actually the hardest to squeeze maximum DPS out of, but considered to be the most rewarding. Was interested (this should be in training ground sub forum shouldn't it?) until I got to the above quote. Good troll. 8/10
Remember, this guide is for total blueberries.
Most of them would oversample it. Hence why I made it easy for them with a nice metronome to practice with.
Every other main rifle is just "Hold down R1" or "Fire as fast as humanly possible".
I also debated on putting this in Training Ground, but I don't think many would find it there.
This is for new players, remember? I'm certain there's some people in this very thread who haven't figured out that there is other places than GD
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Posted - 2015.03.02 03:14:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Here's a tip, run in a squad with 5 other FA mercs using officer and proto gear shooting in unison at individual targets. Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser? Hey, I was in that squad! Everyone wanted to try out an officer weapon. And it lasted for like 5 minutes. Jeez
Yup. Tried to explain it, got a full paragraph about how I'm ruining the game.
I even switched out halfway through and grabbed my sniper rifle.
Sidenote:
Spaceman-Rob wrote:
Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser?
At least spell my name right. That's just rude.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 04:24:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:.
Combat rifles are actually the hardest to squeeze maximum DPS out of, but considered to be the most rewarding. Was interested (this should be in training ground sub forum shouldn't it?) until I got to the above quote. Good troll. 8/10 Remember, this guide is for total blueberries. Most of them would oversample it. Hence why I made it easy for them with a nice metronome to practice with. Every other main rifle is just "Hold down R1" or "Fire as fast as humanly possible". I also debated on putting this in Training Ground, but I don't think many would find it there. This is for new players, remember? I'm certain there's some people in this very thread who haven't figured out that there is other places than GD
Fair enough, post edited to include all of what I feel. |
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Posted - 2015.03.02 04:34:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sensitivity
This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are. This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity. High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once. I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work. Yes, please ignore all of the tips presented and focus on the one thing that you don't like. I showed how controlling angles and using map awareness can help you take on three guys in different directions and win. It's an in game feature that is free to adjust. If anyone wants to, they can set it to max, or set it to zero. If there are advantages to running it at max, why shouldn't you? Because it makes you angry that people can jump and turn around really quick, if you botch your sneak attack? 100 Sensitivity won't save you as a sentinel if you're being shotgunned. It will save you if being shot in the back while moving from point to point. And yes, IRL, you can't just turn around that fast and start shooting. But this is a video game. I never said anything about the other tips, mainly because there's nought wrong with them. This one, however, is teaching bluebs bad game behaviour. Yes, it is an in-game feature you can adjust, but clearly you're going to be stubborn and refuse to acknowledge what I've already said on the matter of "Why it's in video games" As for me getting angry about botched sneak attacks? Never happens, because I never sneak. Scout w/knives or shotgun bores the living hell out of me. If you think higher sensitivity won't save your sent from a SG, then you're a pretty terrible sentinel fitter. With default sensitivity, I survive them frequently. Next you'll be teaching people how to camp and how to Murder Taxi.... ^ flat out ridiculous. Must be a troll.
Not even remotely.
And Thor, no, not calling you a Glitcher. But if you want to play EZ mode you carry right on. I, however, will continue playing the game with more skill than anyone with higher sensitivity will EVER have.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 04:59:00 -
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Even at 100 100 the turn speed is lower than typical FPS. 100 in this game is like 60 in COD.
It's really not an advantage. I can't believe you really think all that lol
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Posted - 2015.03.02 06:46:00 -
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Dengru wrote:Even at 100 100 the turn speed is lower than typical FPS. 100 in this game is like 60 in COD.
It's really not an advantage. I can't believe you really think all that lol
Coming here from BF3 at max sensitivity, It was.
I put it to max and never looked back.
Now, I did go and try Skels settings. It's certainly not unplayable to me, and I still played pretty much the same.
But everything felt sluggish.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 06:48:00 -
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I lost my gun game last year, you haven't seen it have you?
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Posted - 2015.03.02 09:45:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dengru wrote:Even at 100 100 the turn speed is lower than typical FPS. 100 in this game is like 60 in COD.
It's really not an advantage. I can't believe you really think all that lol Coming here from BF3 at max sensitivity, It was. I put it to max and never looked back. Now, I did go and try Skels settings. It's certainly not unplayable to me, and I still played pretty much the same. But everything felt sluggish.
I meant I couldn't believe edau sorry that wasn't clear
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Here's a tip, run in a squad with 5 other FA mercs using officer and proto gear shooting in unison at individual targets. Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser? Hey, I was in that squad! Everyone wanted to try out an officer weapon. And it lasted for like 5 minutes. Jeez Yup. Tried to explain it, got a full paragraph about how I'm ruining the game. I even switched out halfway through and grabbed my sniper rifle. Sidenote: Spaceman-Rob wrote:
Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser?
At least spell my name right. That's just rude.
Yes and in that particular match you did ruin the game for me, I was just trying to have fun with a mate using adv gear, nothing to serious when along came a full squad of proto and officer wearing FA guys to stomp the **** out of everybody. Nobody on our team was in a full squad nor did I notice any proto gear being worn on our side yet for some reason you felt the need to try really REALLY hard to win. You fellas should be good enough by now to do well in a full squad without the need for all that nonsense don't you think? Or did you see me and the rest of my team as such a threat to your ego's?
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Glad to read, commentary included!
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Posted - 2015.03.02 10:59:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Here's a tip, run in a squad with 5 other FA mercs using officer and proto gear shooting in unison at individual targets. Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser? Hey, I was in that squad! Everyone wanted to try out an officer weapon. And it lasted for like 5 minutes. Jeez Yup. Tried to explain it, got a full paragraph about how I'm ruining the game. I even switched out halfway through and grabbed my sniper rifle. Sidenote: Spaceman-Rob wrote:
Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser?
At least spell my name right. That's just rude. Yes and in that particular match you did ruin the game for me, I was just trying to have fun with a mate using adv gear, nothing to serious when along came a full squad of proto and officer wearing FA guys to stomp the **** out of everybody. Nobody on our team was in a full squad nor did I notice any proto gear being worn on our side yet for some reason you felt the need to try really REALLY hard to win. You fellas should be good enough by now to do well in a full squad without the need for all that nonsense don't you think? Or did you see me and the rest of my team as such a threat to your ego's?
Key phrase "wanted to try officer gear# /c
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Mostly we just want to try out officer gear
I want to be a caveman!
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Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10.
Hi! My I.Q is 128. Ghost wrote this guide in respose to me asking about basic slayer tips. I'm a logi and wanted to grasp the thought process of someone who only wants to kill as efficiently as possible. It is also helpful to those who don't play fps, who may have come here from eve, and who may not have the foundation of fps to know basic things such as " cook the grenade" or people who just want to hear the inside of the mind of a pro killer like ghost, or insight into a a6er like Regynum, somebody who insipires fear into the minds of new players like a mythological figure. The point of this is, share the wealth.
Tl:dr- arent there some tanks vs av threads you could be barking in?
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OP wrong
Step 1 - Skill into the FOTM fit - This time it is the Minmatar Assault or any fast moving suit such as a scout and break the game by abusing the terrible hit detection on these suits so you take no damage.
Step 2 - Pick a weapon - Bolt pistol is the best sidearm for them auto aiming headshots, primary can be anything you like but the CR is very good and works well with the Minmatar Assault.
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Here's a tip, run in a squad with 5 other FA mercs using officer and proto gear shooting in unison at individual targets. Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser? Hey, I was in that squad! Everyone wanted to try out an officer weapon. And it lasted for like 5 minutes. Jeez Yup. Tried to explain it, got a full paragraph about how I'm ruining the game. I even switched out halfway through and grabbed my sniper rifle. Sidenote: Spaceman-Rob wrote:
Sound familiar Ghost Kaiser?
At least spell my name right. That's just rude. Yes and in that particular match you did ruin the game for me, I was just trying to have fun with a mate using adv gear, nothing to serious when along came a full squad of proto and officer wearing FA guys to stomp the **** out of everybody. Nobody on our team was in a full squad nor did I notice any proto gear being worn on our side yet for some reason you felt the need to try really REALLY hard to win. You fellas should be good enough by now to do well in a full squad without the need for all that nonsense don't you think? Or did you see me and the rest of my team as such a threat to your ego's?
It was actually a good match. I think we barely won to be honest.
In that situation with blueberries not doing much why shouldn't a squad bring out good gear to turn the match around? Granted we had no idea how the match would play out when we initially ran in, but still. It happens all the time, a good squad is doing all the work, basically 6 v 16 and it comes down to the wire. I just don't see what's wrong with that.
In the match you got so butthurt about it was nothing close to resembling a stomp.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.02 15:25:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:
Yes and in that particular match you did ruin the game for me, I was just trying to have fun with a mate using adv gear, nothing to serious when along came a full squad of proto and officer wearing FA guys to stomp the **** out of everybody. Nobody on our team was in a full squad nor did I notice any proto gear being worn on our side yet for some reason you felt the need to try really REALLY hard to win. You fellas should be good enough by now to do well in a full squad without the need for all that nonsense don't you think? Or did you see me and the rest of my team as such a threat to your ego's?
It was actually a good match. I think we barely won to be honest. In that situation with blueberries not doing much why shouldn't a squad bring out good gear to turn the match around? Granted we had no idea how the match would play out when we initially ran in, but still. It happens all the time, a good squad is doing all the work, basically 6 v 16 and it comes down to the wire. I just don't see what's wrong with that. In the match you got so butthurt about it was nothing close to resembling a stomp.
No, you're thinking of a separate game, where he did have a squad and we had two squads running proto vs. Each other. That match was fun. My Shotgun scout went 31-3.
The match he's talking about was different, it was a stomp. But the sad fact was that it wouldn't have mattered what we ran against that team. A team full of nobodies and randoms can't stand up to the squads we had in that domination. They lost the game in the first 5 minutes, we just had to take another 10 to clone them.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.02 15:26:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP wrong
Step 1 - Skill into the FOTM fit - This time it is the Minmatar Assault or any fast moving suit such as a scout and break the game by abusing the terrible hit detection on these suits so you take no damage.
Step 2 - Pick a weapon - Bolt pistol is the best sidearm for them auto aiming headshots, primary can be anything you like but the CR is very good and works well with the Minmatar Assault.
Step 3 - Profit
And then fall and fail when they take away your crutch.
Your choice.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
Nobody messes with my family
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.03.02 15:32:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP wrong
Step 1 - Skill into the FOTM fit - This time it is the Minmatar Assault or any fast moving suit such as a scout and break the game by abusing the terrible hit detection on these suits so you take no damage.
Step 2 - Pick a weapon - Bolt pistol is the best sidearm for them auto aiming headshots, primary can be anything you like but the CR is very good and works well with the Minmatar Assault.
Step 3 - Profit And then fall and fail when they take away your crutch. Your choice.
They still havn't fixed either problem yet.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.02 15:37:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP wrong
Step 1 - Skill into the FOTM fit - This time it is the Minmatar Assault or any fast moving suit such as a scout and break the game by abusing the terrible hit detection on these suits so you take no damage.
Step 2 - Pick a weapon - Bolt pistol is the best sidearm for them auto aiming headshots, primary can be anything you like but the CR is very good and works well with the Minmatar Assault.
Step 3 - Profit And then fall and fail when they take away your crutch. Your choice. They still havn't fixed either problem yet. By then you have enough SP to skill into the next FOTM.
What happens when you move to another game?
Learning GunGame is something that anyone who likes to play FPS's should do, because most of it transfers from game to game.
Most of mine came from playing BF3. I just had to learn to strafe better to play Dust514.
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Cat Merc
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Me when first reading the OP: "That's an excellent guide for new players! What could possibly go wrong?"
Me after reading the entire thread: "Why GD. Just why.  "
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Cat Merc
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Note:
Learning the maps is VERY, VERRRRRY important.
Map knowledge can carry you even with fairly mediocre gun game, because knowing positioning, timing of movement, when to pre fire, all of that jazz, is an incredibly useful skill.
It's one of the reasons DUST and CSGO are the only FPS games I'm good at. Most other games bored me before I could learn all of that.
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.03.02 15:58:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP wrong
Step 1 - Skill into the FOTM fit - This time it is the Minmatar Assault or any fast moving suit such as a scout and break the game by abusing the terrible hit detection on these suits so you take no damage.
Step 2 - Pick a weapon - Bolt pistol is the best sidearm for them auto aiming headshots, primary can be anything you like but the CR is very good and works well with the Minmatar Assault.
Step 3 - Profit And then fall and fail when they take away your crutch. Your choice. They still havn't fixed either problem yet. By then you have enough SP to skill into the next FOTM. What happens when you move to another game? Learning GunGame is something that anyone who likes to play FPS's should do, because most of it transfers from game to game. Most of mine came from playing BF3. I just had to learn to strafe better to play Dust514.
What happens when you move to another game?
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2015.03.02 16:02:00 -
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Cheers Ghost
As well as helping your intended blueberry audience, this helps vet scrubs like me who haven't played an FPS before realise there's so much more I could be doing better. This plus Arkena's gallente assault guide is helpful!
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
VP Gaming Alliance
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Thanks OP for the guide. I personally had no experience with FPS before this other than messing around on my brother in-laws xbox playing halo on easy cause I liked the story 
Dust was the first one I took seriously and learned a lot of that stuff the hard way. I agree with cat merc that if I didn't know the maps and feel of the battles I would suck much more cause I don't have the gun game for a straight up 1vrs1.
But I do say in match "let's head to D cause it's been to quite and just as I get there someone starts to hack, or now they will push over here next" which allows me to out maneuver and flank which makes up for my gun game
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Here's another one, related to your "watch angle" point...
If you're watching a line of players, let's say there are two of them, running from left to right across your screen. You want to shoot first at the leftmost one -- the one trailing -- in hopes you'll be able to pick him off before the guy in front knows what is happening. If you shoot the one in front, the guy behind him will almost certainly see it happen and turn his attention to you. Whereas if you pick them off from back to front, you stand a good chance of getting them both.
Moving past that....
One of the things I really struggle with, and I see many people struggle with, is the "flight or fight" reaction. Said more directly, I struggle with thinking I'm much better than I really am and as a result get into fights I shouldn't. When I dial back my aggressiveness, I end up dying less AND killing more....the latter being rather counterintuitive.
For me, however, the biggest improvement I made in Dust as a slayer was when I dedicated myself to becoming good with sidearms, and balancing my primary weapon (armor-biased ARR in my case) with a complimentary sidearm (shield-biased ScP).
Hope this helps....Lead
I have the same problem...
Since I epically sucked when I started I had damn near a negative KD which has risen to an amazing 1.2
I have gotten a lot better but I am far too aggressive in part because I run cheap stuff and I have a crappy KD anyway and I'm just having fun. So when a squad mates like "heavy on C!" (Note: got no mic) I run past him and charge the heavy and 3 out 4 I get him if he's alone but the point is I don't care if I die, I gonna try
Did an experiment though were I took a step back and played a little more conservatively for a week and got my weekly KD to almost 3
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10.
Everyone is new to FPSes at one point or another, hence why you see bad players in literally every game, every day.
You've been an absolute humorless jackass these last few months running solid, I think you need a good, long break.
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Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10. Everyone is new to FPSes at one point or another, hence why you see bad players in literally every game, every day. You've been an absolute humorless jackass these last few months running solid, I think you need a good, long break.
Or maybe he needs a stiff drink and/or laid
Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
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Tesfa Alem
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In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:02:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game".
To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage.
If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:08:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10. Hi! My I.Q is 128. Ghost wrote this guide in respose to me asking about basic slayer tips. I'm a logi and wanted to grasp the thought process of someone who only wants to kill as efficiently as possible. It is also helpful to those who don't play fps, who may have come here from eve, and who may not have the foundation of fps to know basic things such as " cook the grenade" or people who just want to hear the inside of the mind of a pro killer like ghost, or insight into a a6er like Regynum, somebody who insipires fear into the minds of new players like a mythological figure. The point of this is, share the wealth. Tl:dr- arent there some tanks vs av threads you could be barking in?
Stahp, you're going to make me blush 
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Tesfa Alem
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:43:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game". To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage. If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here.
Well if you want this thread to degenerate, two can play at that game
If you love hipfire so much go play destiny 
Or go play Call of Duty!
Oh snap! No he diddn't
Hipfire is about letting aim assist shoot for you. Leting the Aim Assist do the work for you is a part of this game, but certainly not a part of skill.
But please tell me more about your advanced tactics. Headglitching, reload glitching and the like.
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Everything Dies
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1. This is still the first and only FPS that I've really played, particularly with/against other people.
2. I'm that guy that's usually standing brick-still as he fires. I also crouch for hip firing/ADS firing if I can get the drop on someone.
3. An important tip would also be to use standard/advanced gear to really get the "flight or fight" feeling down.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.02 21:10:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game". To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage. If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here. Well if you want this thread to degenerate, two can play at that game If you love hipfire so much go play destiny Or go play Call of Duty! Oh snap! No he diddn'tHipfire is about letting aim assist shoot for you. Leting the Aim Assist do the work for you is a part of this game, but certainly not a part of skill. But please tell me more about your advanced tactics. Headglitching, reload glitching and the like.
There's a weird elitest distinction in any competitive game that leans toward "hard mode" play, or using the weakest tactics and trying to win with them. I can see the appeal, but most of us are going to use what works. Shoto in sf, Sentinel in mvc2, etc etc. That's why in most high level competitive play it's not called "glitching" it's called using the system. I have noticed you have to abandon logical physics in dust and play around the wonks. Shooting people through goofy shxt, taking advantage of that guy who didnt know you have to jump up that last step..because why should you?, and things of the like are all par for the course, or for better phrasing Anything goes. It would be nice to always fight with the Marquis of Queensbury rules, but chances are if somebody can use a technical hiccup to their advantage, they will.
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CPM Awox
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Posted - 2015.03.03 03:28:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10. I wouldn't tie it to IQ, but yeah, most of this is common FPS sense. Sadly, I still see blueberries standing still, hipfiring a Rail Rifle at 50m. And then I feel a pang of guilt as I mow them down.
lolguilt. All I feel is a pang of recoil.
Killed again has Super-Ebola.
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Archduke Ferd1nand
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Posted - 2015.03.03 03:30:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game". To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage. If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here. Well if you want this thread to degenerate, two can play at that game If you love hipfire so much go play destiny Or go play Call of Duty! Oh snap! No he diddn'tHipfire is about letting aim assist shoot for you. Leting the Aim Assist do the work for you is a part of this game, but certainly not a part of skill. But please tell me more about your advanced tactics. Headglitching, reload glitching and the like.
If you hip fire in CoD, you're doing it wrong.
In a game where head shots 1 shot, quick scoping is key, with any gun
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Soul Cairn
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Posted - 2015.03.03 03:32:00 -
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Congratulations on the sticky.
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True Adamance
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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How did this get stickied? It's common sense....all of it.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.03 06:10:00 -
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This got stickied?
Never saw that coming.
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Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Atiim wrote:You know the playerbase is terrible when someone finds it nessecary to write a guide on how to do things which are basic knowledge / common sense to anyone who's IQ exceeds 10. I wouldn't tie it to IQ, but yeah, most of this is common FPS sense. Sadly, I still see blueberries standing still, hipfiring a Rail Rifle at 50m. And then I feel a pang of guilt as I mow them down.
I feel no guilt. Contrary to popular belief a lot of things aren't common FPS sense.
Example: Taking cover, Moving out of the way, timing, teamwork, situational awareness, avenues of approach, tag teaming, omg I could go on forever.
Atim is right about the playerbase. Bunch of low IQ's, butthurt, and grudge holding. Add in bad mechanics and lag, and there's no wonder why the playerbase is small.
The post makes sense, but you're preaching to the choir unfortunately. You'd have to write a book to reach truly new to FPS players on this. Posting about teamwork and tactics would serve your purpose better. A lesson in cover fire would go a lot further. Gun game is far to advanced for the true noob.
1. To achieve that good strafe speed they'd need the right mods on which they may not even be specced into yet.
2. Every role does not require gun game. However, every role does require teamwork and communication.
3. Some players simply won't be good at strafing, or anything we may suggest to make them better killers. That doesn't mean they shouldn't play just because they don't strafe.
I remember a time in this games history when no one strafed, and it wasn't so long ago. To say that it's common FPS sense is a bit much. Strafing, and complaints about strafers, is fairly recent because players figured out that speed tanking their suits made them move fast enough to take advantage of any and all hit detection issues. (Min assault comes to mind)
Used differently each method of fighting is useful. There are many types of gun game, and one can define his/her own style. With the right amount of setup time spent outside of battle a player can build a sufficient "stand and deliver" fitting. High shield, distance weapons, and regen can work wonders at range. While high speed, CQC weapons, and great movement mechanics work well also depending on the situation. For example, the Amarr assault fitting w/scrambler, dmg mods, and armor is an effective fitting for the stand and deliver technique, but it's success or failure is strongly hinged on team work.
Whether a player can strafe or not shouldn't cripple his individual style of play if his squad or team is solid in tactics, comms, and strategy. Good post though, truly! o7
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
Killers 4 Hire
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Posted - 2015.03.03 07:24:00 -
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This post is bad and you should feel bad. Who doesn't know how to play a FPS? If one doesn't know how then they side of wouldn't be playing this game.
-1 for trying.
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.03 08:51:00 -
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Is there anyone who is familiar with my skill?
I hope not, they need to underestimate me, its what gives me my biggest edge against proto stompers when they see me firing at them. |
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 13:41:00 -
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May I reproduce this in my Alliance Tip-of-The-Day emails? (With credit to the author of course?)
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Sensitivity is all about personal preferences and gameplay. At long range, a slower sensibility will help you, but when someone will engage you in your back, you'll need an higher one to turn arround fast.
On PC I need a huge sensibility to play, but on Dust, with the controller, 65-70% are perfect for me^^
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
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Posted - 2015.03.03 14:09:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:How did this get stickied? It's common sense....all of it.
common sense - no. You're taking your innate skills for granted.
Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:This post is bad and you should feel bad. Who doesn't know how to play a FPS? If one doesn't know how to play an FPS then they surely wouldn't be playing this game.
-1 for trying.
Pray tell which FPS one who doesn't know how to play an FPS should play? One where they won't encounter your logic...
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Ghost Kaisar
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Fox Gaden wrote:May I reproduce this in my Alliance Tip-of-The-Day emails? (With credit to the author of course?)
Sure, go ahead.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Fatal Absolution
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I'll definitely have to check the sensitivity advice. I'm almost scared to see what happens.  I typically can get between 20-30 kills in a match regardless of gear and I play at a whopping 30-35 sensitivity. I follow pretty much every other bit of this post by default. It's basically all common sense. Lol
Bloody brilliant post though. Useful for the less-learned.
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Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:May I reproduce this in my Alliance Tip-of-The-Day emails? (With credit to the author of course?) Sure, go ahead.
Thanks, some of the guys who have been in my Corp for a while are probably getting tired of my stuff getting repeated every couple of months. It will be good to provide them with some fresh content, and this is a some solid advice you have posted.
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Posted - 2015.03.03 17:28:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:I'll definitely have to check the sensitivity advice. I'm almost scared to see what happens. I typically can get between 20-30 kills in a match regardless of gear and I play at a whopping 30-35 sensitivity. I follow pretty much every other bit of this post by default. It's basically all common sense. Lol Bloody brilliant post though. Useful for the less-learned.
Just remember that 100% sensitivity is useful if you have the aim for it. I say put it to 100 and just get used to it, as you will get more and more accurate with it over time.
The only problem with 100% sensitivity is in CQC and Long range, where quick swipes can completely blow you off target.
However, if you have great twitch reflexes, you can easily use it at all ranges.
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game". To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage. If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here. Well if you want this thread to degenerate, two can play at that game If you love hipfire so much go play destiny Or go play Call of Duty! Oh snap! No he diddn'tHipfire is about letting aim assist shoot for you. Leting the Aim Assist do the work for you is a part of this game, but certainly not a part of skill. But please tell me more about your advanced tactics. Headglitching, reload glitching and the like.
Someone sounds REALLY butthurt..
What FPS have you never hipfired in? I remember hipfiring in doom and goldeneye like 20 years ago. There is a time and place for both hipfire and ADS in every FPS I have ever played.
I didnt know about things like prefiring corners and such until just a few years ago, and I've been playing FPS since FPS was a thing. Some have already stated in this very thread that dust is their first FPS.
Good guide Ghost, the haters should look over it again.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.03 19:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:I'll definitely have to check the sensitivity advice. I'm almost scared to see what happens. I typically can get between 20-30 kills in a match regardless of gear and I play at a whopping 30-35 sensitivity. I follow pretty much every other bit of this post by default. It's basically all common sense. Lol Bloody brilliant post though. Useful for the less-learned. Just remember that 100% sensitivity is useful if you have the aim for it. I say put it to 100 and just get used to it, as you will get more and more accurate with it over time. The only problem with 100% sensitivity is in CQC and Long range, where quick swipes can completely blow you off target. However, if you have great twitch reflexes, you can easily use it at all ranges.
I'll definitely check it out. If it doesn't work I'll decrease by 5 or 10 gradually and see where the sweet spot lies.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
common sense - no. You're taking your innate skills for granted..
I don't have "innate skills"......
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Posted - 2015.03.03 20:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
common sense - no. You're taking your innate skills for granted..
I don't have "innate skills"......
Mostly just FPS experience.
Anyone whose played FPS's for a while would have picked up on some, if not all of what is listed here.
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Bradric Banewolf
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Posted - 2015.03.03 21:28:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game". To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage. If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here. Well if you want this thread to degenerate, two can play at that game If you love hipfire so much go play destiny Or go play Call of Duty! Oh snap! No he diddn'tHipfire is about letting aim assist shoot for you. Leting the Aim Assist do the work for you is a part of this game, but certainly not a part of skill. But please tell me more about your advanced tactics. Headglitching, reload glitching and the like. There's a weird elitest distinction in any competitive game that leans toward "hard mode" play, or using the weakest tactics and trying to win with them. I can see the appeal, but most of us are going to use what works. Shoto in sf, Sentinel in mvc2, etc etc. That's why in most high level competitive play it's not called "glitching" it's called using the system. I have noticed you have to abandon logical physics in dust and play around the wonks. Shooting people through goofy shxt, taking advantage of that guy who didnt know you have to jump up that last step..because why should you?, and things of the like are all par for the course, or for better phrasing Anything goes. It would be nice to always fight with the Marquis of Queensbury rules, but chances are if somebody can use a technical hiccup to their advantage, they will.
I'm just afraid that this was stickied because ghost inadvertently gave CCP the excuse they needed to avoid admitting the hit detection issues in the game. The ones they have yet to comment on..... yeah those.
Ghost' heart is in the right place, but we don't want to make this "gun game" strafing/bad hit detection nonsense the new standard, and it goes unfixed because we inadvertently excepted it as a standard part of the game. What he has wrote IS correct, but can be considered the first chapter in the book of gun game. Not the entire book. There are far more important parts to effective tactics in a team based FPS.
When and if the hit detection issues are addressed and fixed. Players who abuse the mechanic won't seem so great at strafing as they once were. We want to make sure they still know that taking cover, as opposed to standing in the open dodging rounds like the matrix, is still the best method for not being hit as you stated.
We will see a lot of resident strafers coming to this post going "see I'm gun game incarnate". This is a fallacy, and I am hoping you are quick to set them straight. I don't care how effective it is currently we all know hit detection is shotty at best. I better not catch any of my guys strafing in the open, not 10 meters from actual cover, and not taking it in haste!
Also, for the vets ready to teach the strafe tactic solely to new players. Please start with the basic fundamentals first. I can't even count the amount of new players we've picked up in our training corp that have some really sh*tty habits?! They get in squad with great intentions, and we quickly see why they've been in 20 corps in 3 months?! They run head long into 4 guys, and begins to strafe frantically as the enemy squad obliterates him with teamwork. While my other squad mates begin to all hit him with "man wtf was that?"! I drop my controller laughing uncontrollably, and die in-game in the process lol!
After I recover, I go into detail with him as to why what he did doesn't truly work. He explains why he does it, and it's usually because they either saw someone else do it or was instructed to do it previously.
This is not any one persons fault because the flaw in mechanics has made this bs almost more effective than taking cover or covering fire. What we don't want to do is make this a standard. This isn't the best way to approach a gun fight, and is instead a "trick up my sleeve" tactic to surviving in close call situations.
I feel before teaching them to attempt to abuse broken mechanics we should point out how this game lacks effective horizontal cover, and vertical cover is what they will have to adapt to using more often than not. They will also need to know that 2 and 3 man fire teams are the best for them when first starting to play the game. Strafing is for vets with the SP to spec into speed mods and complex shield, armor, and regeneration mods. New players don't benefit from any such strafing in militia fits.
Flanking, cover and concealment, avenues of approach, mobile cover (tanks), fire team tactics, high ground/low ground, time on target, priority of fire, primary objectives, and so much more. These are things they can do and learn at any level. Strafing may only be super effective right now because of hit detection issues. The other examples work regardless of what changes in the game.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.03 21:49:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:This got stickied?
Never saw that coming.
I approve of Frame's habit of stickying useful newbie threads.
This one is even in GD, where it might actually get seen!
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Ghost Kaisar
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.04 00:32:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:This got stickied?
Never saw that coming. I approve of Frame's habit of stickying useful newbie threads. This one is even in GD, where it might actually get seen!
That was actually my intention for putting it in GD
Nobody ever really finds the other ares...
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Posted - 2015.03.04 00:34:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:In summary.
sprint in circles
let auto aim and hipfire do the work for you
rinse repeat.
every "gun game" player does this. I am not as spastic, so i prefer out flanking, using cover, utilizing position and tactics. Sadly aiming down sights should be the most accurate, in dust 514 its not. If i had my way, all hipfire would be near unmanagable. Sure you could circle strafe, but you wouldn't be able to hit the broadside of the MCC.
I'm gonna throw you a couple likes, because, i do like what motivated you to write a guide, its not a from a bad place and i applaud you for it.
but man oh man do i hate the term 'gun game.' My Missile Incubus hates "gun game" too ;)
If you read in the guide, flanking, cover, position and tactics are included in my version of "Gun Game". To me, its a combination of knowing how to fire your gun, avoiding being hit, and using map knowledge to its fullest advantage. If you hate hipfire, go play battlefield. It's all about what you just talked about. I had to learn how to strafe coming here. Well if you want this thread to degenerate, two can play at that game If you love hipfire so much go play destiny Or go play Call of Duty! Oh snap! No he diddn'tHipfire is about letting aim assist shoot for you. Leting the Aim Assist do the work for you is a part of this game, but certainly not a part of skill. But please tell me more about your advanced tactics. Headglitching, reload glitching and the like. There's a weird elitest distinction in any competitive game that leans toward "hard mode" play, or using the weakest tactics and trying to win with them. I can see the appeal, but most of us are going to use what works. Shoto in sf, Sentinel in mvc2, etc etc. That's why in most high level competitive play it's not called "glitching" it's called using the system. I have noticed you have to abandon logical physics in dust and play around the wonks. Shooting people through goofy shxt, taking advantage of that guy who didnt know you have to jump up that last step..because why should you?, and things of the like are all par for the course, or for better phrasing Anything goes. It would be nice to always fight with the Marquis of Queensbury rules, but chances are if somebody can use a technical hiccup to their advantage, they will. Lots o Stuff
This isn't a "Fix" for hit detection, its simply a way to improve newberries aim and abilities on the field.
These carry over to ALL FPS GAMES.
This guide can do nothing but help.
But yes CCP, hit detection and collision detection still need a LOT of work. I shouldn't be flipping LAV's over invisible bumps
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ADADADADADADAD *minmatar assault takes no damage*
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.04 05:32:00 -
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Oceltot Mortalis wrote:ADADADADADADAD *minmatar assault takes no damage*
Fluxes and Flaylocks
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.04 11:50:00 -
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Moving to high ground, or behind partial cover such as a railing completely disables aim assist. Just thought that was worth mentioning, because it completely cripples people.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:This got stickied?
Never saw that coming. I approve of Frame's habit of stickying useful newbie threads. This one is even in GD, where it might actually get seen! That was actually my intention for putting it in GD Nobody ever really finds the other ares...
Depressingly true.
I hope that the newbies actually do look into RTG but all too often they post here instead. It's probably not worth asking for the current behemoth stickied in RTG to get moved over here, though.
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Posted - 2015.03.05 19:53:00 -
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I predicted that this thread would be stickied.
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ReGnYuM
Kameira Lodge
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NO WAY MY STRAFING VIDEO IS IN A STICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
ReGnYuM
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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LOOK MOMMY, I'M FAMOUS |
Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:03:00 -
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You're welcome 
I actually had more than a few vets exclaim that they had never seen this video before.
It's a great video on strafing, says a lot more than I can in words.
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Dead Man's Game
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1vs1 encounters are very rare lately.
BTW connection is the major wins/loss factor of every encounter in 90% of the cases.
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Nos Nothi
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:You're welcome I actually had more than a few vets exclaim that they had never seen this video before. It's a great video on strafing, says a lot more than I can in words.
yeah, I watched it a few years ago now i guess; I'm still garbage at strafing but less bad than I was :)
I should probably go watch it again.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.08 05:52:00 -
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Negative-Feedback is full of scrubs.
I wouldn't listen to any advice they give out.
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:20:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:LOOK MOMMY, I'M FAMOUS
"Since watching this video my life has changed."
If you call now, we'll add the grenade tossing video for $19.95!
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Jaran Vilktar
CORP SIX KING
Smart Deploy
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So, Ghost Kaisar... thank's! My strafe game has always been pretty bad (mainly cus' I forget that I'm supposed to strafe while shooting  ) also, I feel so silly right now. I've been here for about 2 years and I've always played with my ADS X and Y sensitivity at the default settings because I... thought that ADS meant Assault-Drop-Ship oh god all of those reds I could've taken down!
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Lol this got stickied. Awesome. |
THUNDERGROOVE
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:20:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:1vs1 encounters are very rare lately.
BTW connection is the major wins/loss factor of every encounter in 90% of the cases.
Hey man. Once you get the 1v1's down, you can become amazing like me and master the 1v3
My invasion of thoughts is your caviar
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Soul Cairn
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:50:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:shaman oga wrote:1vs1 encounters are very rare lately.
BTW connection is the major wins/loss factor of every encounter in 90% of the cases. Hey man. Once you get the 1v1's down, you can become amazing like me and master the 1v3
You can't 1v3 for ****.
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Patrick57
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you got stickied ghost, nice:p |
Patrick57
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:LOOK MOMMY, I'M FAMOUS "Since watching this video my life has changed." If you call now, we'll add the grenade tossing video for $19.95! Disclaimer: Actor was paid for his testimony
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Soul Cairn wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:shaman oga wrote:1vs1 encounters are very rare lately.
BTW connection is the major wins/loss factor of every encounter in 90% of the cases. Hey man. Once you get the 1v1's down, you can become amazing like me and master the 1v3 You can't 1v3 for ****.
Fite me kid
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.16 14:47:00 -
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Ghost gets a sticky on gun game... ROFL
What's next? Patrick57 gets a sticky on how not to get benched?
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Demandred Moores
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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This is a personal setting that adjusts how GÇ£TwitchyGÇ¥ your aim is. Set the sucker to 100 across the board.
GET USED TO IT.
The reason for this is simple, it makes you more reactive. When you get pissed about people being able to turn around on a dime, itGÇÖs because sensitivity is maxed. It requires better aim however, as minor adjustments can have large effects. But the increased ability to snap back and forth between targets, and the ability to quickly track running targets in ADS is godsend.
So, getting used to a higher sensitivity is done in two ways.
1.)Slowly increase the current setting by 5 every day or so.
2.)Max it and play till youGÇÖre used to it.
I prefer the latter. YouGÇÖll learn to love how snappy the controls are.[/quote]
This is the most cowardly and nooby playstyle of any fps. I refuse to ever alter my sensitivity because if I take three guys on from different directions and win, it's much more of an accomplishment than having high sensitivity.
High sensitivity is for tryhards who get ridiculously enraged if they die even once.
I do believe sensitivity options were added to fps games to compensate for bigger/smaller tv screens, not so that people can insta-turn. Ever tried insta-turning your entire body? Doesn't work.
[/quote]
Yes, please ignore all of the tips presented and focus on the one thing that you don't like.
I showed how controlling angles and using map awareness can help you take on three guys in different directions and win.
It's an in game feature that is free to adjust. If anyone wants to, they can set it to max, or set it to zero. If there are advantages to running it at max, why shouldn't you?
Because it makes you angry that people can jump and turn around really quick, if you botch your sneak attack?
100 Sensitivity won't save you as a sentinel if you're being shotgunned. It will save you if being shot in the back while moving from point to point.
And yes, IRL, you can't just turn around that fast and start shooting. But this is a video game. [/quote]
I never said anything about the other tips, mainly because there's nought wrong with them. This one, however, is teaching bluebs bad game behaviour.
Yes, it is an in-game feature you can adjust, but clearly you're going to be stubborn and refuse to acknowledge what I've already said on the matter of "Why it's in video games"
As for me getting angry about botched sneak attacks? Never happens, because I never sneak. Scout w/knives or shotgun bores the living hell out of me.
If you think higher sensitivity won't save your sent from a SG, then you're a pretty terrible sentinel fitter. With default sensitivity, I survive them frequently.
Next you'll be teaching people how to camp and how to Murder Taxi....[/quote]
^ flat out ridiculous. Must be a troll.[/quote]
Not even remotely.
And Thor, no, not calling you a Glitcher. But if you want to play EZ mode you carry right on. I, however, will continue playing the game with more skill than anyone with higher sensitivity will EVER have.[/quote]
I like how you insult someone providing useful tips for player using a personal opinion as your bases lol. I'll make sure to kill you over and over with officer knives til you rage quit if I see you. Good post, glad to have something to point my logi friends too as it's instinctive to me and can be long and tedious to explain. |
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BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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I use different settings of sencetivety with different weapons.
If I use a CQC weapon i set to 100.
With mid-long range i set it to 50-60.
When I snipe I have it very low at 15-25
This way the movement speed of my crosshairs are easy to control pompared to
the weapon I use and the range the red dots are at, not to fast, not to slow.
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Radiant Pancake3
THE REBEL FEDERATION
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Must say was effy on turning sensitivity to 100 then I went 50/1. Much surprise.
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WyrmHero1945
Finesse Soldiers
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Are these tips for mouse and keyboard? Because 100 sensitivity on a controller is just overkill. I play at 0 sensitivity and I feel it too fast.  |
Dreis Shadowweaver
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Are these tips for mouse and keyboard? Because 100 sensitivity on a controller is just overkill. I play at 0 sensitivity and I feel it too fast. Also it's very hard to strafe (or dance side to side) while aiming without KB/M.
I also play at 0 sensitivity.
KB/M cannot receive aim assist though.
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.10.19 18:08:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Are these tips for mouse and keyboard? Because 100 sensitivity on a controller is just overkill. I play at 0 sensitivity and I feel it too fast. Also it's very hard to strafe (or dance side to side) while aiming without KB/M.
I came here from BF3 with 100 sensitivity.
I feel like the game is sluggish even at 100, and unplayable at 0.
Like trying to turn in molasses.
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Posted - 2015.11.18 01:39:00 -
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In order for me to get any form of a kill, I need to keep my overall at about 40. Thanks to having a controller that randomly acts up, speeding up the rate it moves is suicidal at best. And believe me, I can do my share for a team, though you guys'll be busy using the turrets I took.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.11.18 15:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Are these tips for mouse and keyboard? Because 100 sensitivity on a controller is just overkill. I play at 0 sensitivity and I feel it too fast. Also it's very hard to strafe (or dance side to side) while aiming without KB/M. I came here from BF3 with 100 sensitivity. I feel like the game is sluggish even at 100, and unplayable at 0. Like trying to turn in molasses.
Heheh, I can't play with my sensitivity at anything higher than 0.
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