[quote=Roman837]Watch what happens if they limit a corps ability to aim at achieving the ultimate goal. 100 percent. That should be everyone's goal. Owning everything. We should be able to pick and chose when our timers are. They are ours. We took them and own them.

People should strive to be in pc. It should go...pubs....factional..then pc. Master them all before pc. Then. We administer pc on our own. We created tiers. Big corps don't smash small corps unless they training their new players.

Anyone can join pc. If they have a team. And if they fight for it. Like we all did

I dont want anything handed to me. Im fine with working for it. But they need to limut it so one corp can't own the majority of the land.
This is the big issue, the point everyone is missing.
CCP doesn't want you to have so much of the pie.
It's that simple.
This is CCP's game. They have control....not your 10% of the population. Suck it up and deal with it.
I'm off this thread.

CCP should remove everyone's goal? To win? To be on the TOP. Wow. Why do you guys even play this game? It's not just a first person shooter. It is a game of galactic conquest. Your political moves are just as important as your players gun games.

Chess shouldn't be about killing the enemy king I guess. It should be about moving peices of the board and dancing around the other player. Without the end goal being there. Why play.

We have a rule in our corp. Just for your information. Seeing as how you think we're some elitist. We don't want more then 10 districts. When we get more than that through conquest. We give them Way.

That is how the game has been acting now for months. Player and corporation run planetary conquest. We choose who is in and out. If they want me out. They team up and take me out. They did it 2 weeks ago. We were reduced to ashes. Guess what. It was amazing.

I am so happy they did it. It took them all using politics and diplomacy. It took them using coordination and team work.

They achieved their goal. They played the game as it should be. Ruthlessly.

I guess in eve the goal should be jusy to pvp but not kill the other guys ship it yiu have a better ship then them.

I currently have 3 districts. Ya...I'm really controlling everything.

This is all proof the people arguing on here have no clue about what they are arguing about or pushing for. Get your corp started. Get a pc team. Before begging for a district try and take one. If unsuccessful message us. We will give you one. Then protect yiu until you are ready to reach out on your own.

We have a corp currently in MH that all you pansy ass negative complainers should talk to. They are called Random Gunz. A year ago no one knew their name. 6 months ago they entered pc. 5 months ago...we used attacks vs them to train our newest members because our elite players would stomp them. We attacked them repeatedly. But never flipped their districts. We didn't want to. After a few weeks of them losing to us...Instead of bringing in my new players...I slowly had to start bringing in more and more of my good players. Why? Because Random gunz was getting better!

They did not quit. They took their beatings. Adapted. And became what is now one of the most competent and active planetary conquest teams. They earned their place. Mad respect for them. Funny enough they just attacked my district.

You want to remove the hard and toughness of this game. You want quantity over quality. You want to dilute planetary conquest. Why?

Because you are way to lazy to put your time in. Take your beatings and earn your place.

In other words. Get good.

You seriously seem to miss what one of the real issues is in Planetary conquest is. It absolutely has flaws.

You said earlier that the ultimate goal for a corporation is to own 100% of Molden Heath. Guess what? If Nyan wanted to, it would have been pretty easy:

1) Attack a district
2) Slowly flip it because they can
3) Change timer to the usual 13:00 or 12:00
4) They win PC

Actually NS already won PC, none of their districts is under attack, and they're also selling them afaik. If you really want the competitiveness you seem to aim for, you cannot be that blind towards timers.

Think about EU timezone: it's the most vulnerable timezone, period. We're exposed both to US attacks and Asia attacks and this is a major problem because of the inevitable, huge network lag one of the two factions will get. Is this competitive? No, it's not. It's an easy win for one of the two.

I clearly remember a series of 5-6 matches against Hellstorm. It wasn't about tactics because both factions always used the same tactic on the same map. It wasn't about players because we always used the same players as they did.
First match, we lost miserably. Second game, they got wrecked. Third game we got stomped. Fourth game we won by measure. They all weren't close games. Each game was like a pubstomp for one or the other corporation/alliance. Now answer this question: is this competitive?

PC has flaws, and as much as I understand your frustration for the changes being in development, you should also understand the effort CCP is putting into PC in order to make it more competitive.

For what concerns timers hiding, it has been a common tactic: you know who you're fighting, you know when they're online, therefor you set your timer at an unaccessible timezone, taking non-aggression agreements with the major corps at that timezone. Let's be honest. This is not competitive.

They do not complain because

1) They already have more districts than they wanted
2) Many of the timers are still accessible to them, with little to no required effort. while you had to set your alarm clock for a game, they just played regularly.

But, don't get me wrong, if there were only one super-corporation in US it would work the same way. Nobody would attack you in your timer because it would be too early for asians and too late for europeans.

That's not quite entirely true. They simply took many districts from EU timezone + other districts in Oceania Timezone.

no. They won't

They will be where they are currently. Chirping from sidelines. We will suffer from it adapt and move on

Does your credibility count anything? Idk who you are but if you say only he is wrong that doesnt make you right

No, my corporation does not exist anymore. As the alliance does not exist anymore. As the corporations that used to be in the alliance does not exist anymore. All of my corpmates are in other corporation and on ps4 and I would never ask them to come back, even if I'm pretty confident some of them would. But, sure, I may join one corp with one of my alts and participate in PC, why not? I'm pretty confident in my skills, I might not be the best player, but a good "PC player" yes.

You really believe there is nothing wrong with the way PC is now?

Is there nothing you would do to improve it?

Please do forge you alliance just like DNS we all know how well that worked out last time right?

thank you they actually posted something like this already.

It was something along the lines of the deeper you go into MH the more ISK you could make but, the more powerful the corps were.
something like that...

Excuse me, but how would a wider attack window simplify PC? how would fixed timers / server on each district simplify PC? It would simply change the way you play, but it would not dumb it down at all!

It's not about simplify PC, it's about to make it a bit more fair for those who can't compete not because they just don't want to or because they are not capable of, but simply because they can't because of its mechanics.

Dude I'm stuffed after reading this thread...so much entertainment.

They're all gonna quit.

They're all not gonna quit but instead join forces to rule the roost.

It's like wrestling!

Accesible?

You guys realize if you want land in PC it's as easy as.... asking for one?

It's very accessible - so much so one man corps are popping up all over the place and are being put down. It's absurd people cry about how tough PC is to break into when you don't even bother trying or getting to know what's going on in PC.

What PC really needed was a UI over-haul - tutorials on star map - and ADVERTISE IT EVEN EXISTS IN THE DAMN GAME.

These changes aren't going to change the fact the same corps are going to stomp you.

What it will do is ruin the sandbox and choices we've made up to this point to get where we are.

If you want to work your way up here - it's not hard. I personally field people with just 10mil SP and they do just fine.

The Warbarge addition sounds really cool - no vet will complain about that. What we don't want is CCP telling us what district we can take.