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Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4273	Posted - 2015.01.20 11:15:00 - [1] - Quote For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D) Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E) Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set you timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 327	Posted - 2015.01.20 11:43:00 - [2] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. if there is any good team who want to attack them "x" me up, i dont care about alliances or corporation if the result is bring new district available for fights and involve more corp in PC world... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set you timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I will edit later The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep".One of the few vehiculist remained in dust 514
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 818	Posted - 2015.01.20 12:54:00 - [3] - Quote how is this the communitys fault? Nyain has the amount of districts they have because 12 timer is a Asian time zone. Before PC was in nyain's hands they gathered all talent in that timer into a single corporation and then took over timers they could. No one can compete with them cause no one can touch that timer because they own all the competence of that hour. People have lives and jobs in america for talent to show up at 6 am to play a stupid video game.
Mr Machine Guns 1000	Posted - 2015.01.20 12:59:00 - [4] - Quote What's funny Kain NS has given away over 50% of its districts to corps so to call them selfish is just sad and pathetic
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4277	Posted - 2015.01.20 13:01:00 - [5] - Quote Radar R4D-47 wrote: how is this the communitys fault? Nyain has the amount of districts they have because 12 timer is a Asian time zone. Before PC was in nyain's hands they gathered all talent in that timer into a single corporation and then took over timers they could. No one can compete with them cause no one can touch that timer because they own all the competence of that hour. People have lives and jobs in america for talent to show up at 6 am to play a stupid video game. For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. If folks agreed to not defend Nyain San then the issue could be resolved over the course of 1 weekend easily. Nyain San has also moved their timers to 1300, so it's not quite as early of a fight as it was before. I think a fair compromise would be to leave Nayin San's 11 districts on the 1200 timer alone and just address the 50+ districts currently set to 1300. Really though the better option would be for Nyain San to man up to the fact that their corp has largely decayed and move at least all of the 1300 timers to an hour where the Dust community can redistribute the land themselves. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4277	Posted - 2015.01.20 13:03:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: What's funny Kain NS has given away over 50% of its districts to corps so to call them selfish is just sad and pathetic, if people actually talked to them and go to know them I'm sure they would be willing to give more district away That 50% was gained by ERA leaving PC. Your core holdings have be largely untouched. The question is do you want to take all of PC down with you? Your land is going to go away no matter what you do. Your choice is to either have CCP take it away and in the process potentially ruin PC for everyone or give up at least all of the land your currently have set to 1300 (around 50 districts) and save the PC community from some mass reset and timer "fix". Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Mr Machine Guns 1000	Posted - 2015.01.20 13:12:00 - [7] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: What's funny Kain NS has given away over 50% of its districts to corps so to call them selfish is just sad and pathetic, if people actually talked to them and go to know them I'm sure they would be willing to give more district away That 50% was gained by ERA leaving PC. Your core holdings have be largely untouched. The question is do you want to take all of PC down with you? Your land is going to go away no matter what you do. Your choice is to either have CCP take it away and in the process potentially ruin PC for everyone or give up at least all of the land your currently have set to 1300 (around 50 districts) and save the PC community from some mass reset and timer "fix". The number one problem with Pc is not Ns and its timers. The number problem is there is no incentive for a new corp to get into pc because, there is no way to really make isk back for taking a district the only way to gain isk is have a corp give up a hub and you can make a 10 million profit but, after that then only way to get isk is if you win pc so Ccp needs to introduce a new system for corps to make isk that is based on a timer being reinforced with clone gen, until that problem is solved this issue with timers is not the problem the problem with Pc is no one wants to join because of the fear of being taken out have wasted so much isk to get it to Pc, that is why I feel they should bring back corp battles to have people and their corps get ready for pc.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4277	Posted - 2015.01.20 13:33:00 - [8] - Quote Free clone packs are on the horizon so the issue of "making ISK back" because of clone pack cost will be going away in due time. The only problem is when that day comes will your inaction leave us with a timer system that has CCP dictating what timers can landowners be allowed to play on. In the end though your land IS going way no matter what. It's now your decision on whether or not your land gets removed by CCP or you step up to the plate and resolve the issue of you 50+ districts stacked on a timer that most players don't play on in your largely inactive corp. How many players do you have logged into your corp at 1300? I can guarantee that it isn't 800 players. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Nyain_San 143 players means if you had 100% of them on at the same time you could field about 9 districts. The compromise on the table would leave you at 11 districts at 1200. It seems the decision is fairly easy, so why don't you make it. Make a choice to not defend your 1300 timers, and let the community redistribute that land on it's own terms rather than forcing CCP's hand to redistribute timers and land on for the community with no regard to the people that have put work into planetary conquest. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Beast gameplay1 jr Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 18	Posted - 2015.01.20 14:35:00 - [9] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: What's funny Kain NS has given away over 50% of its districts to corps so to call them selfish is just sad and pathetic, if people actually talked to them and go to know them I'm sure they would be willing to give more district away Kain is right they have 20% of the districts and they can't even use have of them plus corps are usually ringing for them
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 331	Posted - 2015.01.20 14:49:00 - [10] - Quote A complete reset sounds awesome! Besided who cares about districts now, just waiting on PC 2.0 soon tm.

Juandeer Woman Mexican Justice League 30	Posted - 2015.01.20 14:54:00 - [11] - Quote LOL... Let us know if you need help Machine Guns. The MJL loves rice just as much as the next guy in the foxhole! Yes... I am PMSing.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4283	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:01:00 - [12] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: A complete reset sounds awesome! Besided who cares about districts now, just waiting on PC 2.0 soon tm. A reset that will give you timers that you can't change and are locked based on whatever % of players are active in a given timezone. If that goes through CCP will be setting the game mainly to US timers. The rest of the world be damned. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Juandeer Woman Mexican Justice League 33	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:02:00 - [13] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: A complete reset sounds awesome! Besided who cares about districts now, just waiting on PC 2.0 soon tm. A reset that will give you timers that you can't change and are locked based on whatever % of players are active in a given timezone. If that goes through CCP will be setting the game mainly to US timers. The rest of the world be damned. You mean Mexican timers? Yes... I am PMSing.
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 331	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:05:00 - [14] - Quote Juandeer Woman wrote: LOL... Let us know if you need help Machine Guns. The MJL loves rice just as much as the next guy in the foxhole! Rice is Nice.
ReGnYuM Red Star. 3443	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:07:00 - [15] - Quote #BanSperoFromTheWarRoom
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4284	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:18:00 - [16] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: A complete reset sounds awesome! Besided who cares about districts now, just waiting on PC 2.0 soon tm. These changes including things like region locked timers are what's being planned for PC 2.0. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 146	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:24:00 - [17] - Quote Look!!!!! I'm saying this as a Dust Player of the Community.... Not Nyain fault they live inAsia. We live in America. They can't defend. Wake your lazy butts up and Attack them. If you have a job a life or sleeping blah blah blah. That's your problem. Why should CCP change or cater to anything. No matter what system they do it will favor a region somehow. There s no way to make this fair ever. We are on one side of the world they are on the other. Period!!! That's never going to change EVER. What you going to do. Tell someone in Asia sorry you can't have timers at 7-9pm your time becuas that's 7-9am USA time...lmao Wow.... All you guys are cry baby's Period. Wake the hell up and go get the land. If you say they can't defend. And so what Nyain San sits and never uses there land. You Dint Like it go get it!!! No instead let's cry to CCP for a year and get our way. I hope CCP you **** your whole side of the country off. And you lose all that community. CCP you guys are stupid. Always listening to cry baby's. PC is about taking land. If I take land and want to sit on it for 10 years (Goones) you don't like it then come get it. I hope you cater to USA CCP. Cuz I'm post all this on EVE forums. maybe if all of High Sec and Low Sec B!tch enough for the next two years. Maybe you will change Null Sec and Goones can finally get wiped out....lmao Wow CCP Wow..... Is there a change needed? Yes, I do think so. But to complain Nyain San doesn't use there land blah blah blah. Shut up wake up and go get it. You say Nyain Dead now. Then why you all crying. Go get it!!! Damn Cry Baby's....always want the easy way out.... Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4285	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:36:00 - [18] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Look!!!!! Not Nyain fault they live inAsia. We live in America. They can't defend. Wake your lazy butts up and Attack them. Couldn't agree more. The complacency of the community has lead us down this road. Either way Asia timers are going to get nuked, so it's just a matter of on what terms. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4383	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:43:00 - [19] - Quote I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 147	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:48:00 - [20] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. Really.....do I really need to mention what Nyain San was able to do the last 3 to 4 times they been Blitzed... Lots have changed since the last blitz. But every time the community thinks it so so easy. When you Blitz you realize Nyain San does have. BatPhone after all... It's crazy but they have The Red Phone. They got to cuz every time. Somehow every one of those battles are full... Like if truth...you know it is Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe

Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4290	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:54:00 - [21] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. Really.....do I really need to mention what Nyain San was able to do the last 3 to 4 times they been Blitzed... Lots have changed since the last blitz. But every time the community thinks it so so easy. When you Blitz you realize Nyain San does have. BatPhone after all... It's crazy but they have The Red Phone. They got to cuz every time. Somehow every one of those battles are full... Like if truth...you know it is Yeah, Nyain San has had a Batphone in the past. I remember well because I helped NS repel one of those Blitz attacks. In fact it was the blitz attack that you tried to help organize Ghost Shadow. The problem now is that everyone's district is on the line if they choose to help Nyain San at this point. Nyain San has been able to rely on the North American community to defend them when push comes to shove, but that time needs to end. Otherwise everyone will suffer the consequences. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 774	Posted - 2015.01.20 15:59:00 - [22] - Quote Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 148	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:00:00 - [23] - Quote Here an idea.... Open World. No Timers at all.... I Attack you no matter the time. 24 hours later is the battle. So if I attack at 5 am then in 24 hours battle at 5am. It's like real life. Dust is big enough now. We all have relationships across the globe. We also have some very smart older guys that play this game. That I know can organize what it would take to succeed. Alliance: now has a true purpose. Have multiple corps as one has a valid reason now. I have to talk to the French or the Japanese or the Russians. We all communicate now no matter where you from even Brazil. We all have a way of communicating with one another. I would need to make round the clock rotations and man post with corps. Just like in real life. I will need a corp available for a.m. And p.m.. I'll need my Japanese or Russian friends to be up and on patrol at 5pm cause it's 5am my time. Now having an alliance is a bigger deal. And have more roles and a reason to be together. It will force the Dust community to talk and establish new relationships if they want to PC. PC: will be the most fun ever. You telling me a Roman837 (hope I got numbers right sorry if I didnt), Radar,Zatara, Kain, Myself couldn't organize something like that. It would take an intelligent, sociable, organized leader or leaders to make a successful alliance to hold land across the 24 hour mark. I think the community and the game would change so much if timers were just open and system gives 24 hour notice of Attack. After all it's PC it's where the Big Boys play. Now you want a new corp in PC get them in your alliance train them up on your own land. So they can help The Empire protect what's Theres It would take a real leadership and relationships across the globe. Be no more one sided region. Everyone works together. Cause you can be attacked at any moment.... Shoot im excited just thinking of this...honestly arnt you? Our community is big enough and language barriers are no longer a problem.... Think about it guys this would be the most fun and strategic game play of PC ever. Now my alliance means something. True World Domination. Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 774	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:01:00 - [24] - Quote What this will do is promote corps to become large and have people of multiple time zones. Which is a good thing Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 774	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:04:00 - [25] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Here an idea.... Open World. No Timers at all.... I Attack you no matter the time. 24 hours later is the battle. So if I attack at 5 am then in 24 hours battle at 5am. It's like real life. Dust is big enough now. We all have relationships across the globe. We also have some very smart older guys that play this game. That I know can organize what it would take to succeed. Alliance: now has a true purpose. Have multiple corps as one has a valid reason now. I have to talk to the French or the Japanese or the Russians. We all communicate now no matter where you from even Brazil. We all have a way of communicating with one another. I would need to make round the clock rotations and man post with corps. Just like in real life. I will need a corp available for a.m. And p.m.. I'll need my Japanese or Russian friends to be up and on patrol at 5pm cause it's 5am my time. Now having an alliance is a bigger deal. And have more roles and a reason to be together. It will force the Dust community to talk and establish new relationships if they want to PC. PC: will be the most fun ever. You telling me a Roman837 (hope I got numbers right sorry if I didnt), Radar,Zatara, Kain, Myself couldn't organize something like that. It would take an intelligent, sociable, organized leader or leaders to make a successful alliance to hold land across the 24 hour mark. I think the community and the game would change so much if timers were just open and system gives 24 hour notice of Attack. After all it's PC it's where the Big Boys play. Now you want a new corp in PC get them in your alliance train them up on your own land. So they can help The Empire protect what's Theres Strangely enough yes I agree. Partially. It will change alliances dramatically. Also they will need to add a new battle finder option...alliance battles so people can see the alliance timers. And allow them to que that they available so the corp can pick players up based on the que Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1618	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:06:00 - [26] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. We attacked last weekend, faced a full team of Nyain San/Chan and Carne Con Papas. It was a tough game, and I can confirm they have their own team active. It's hardly their fault, the mass-attack's fail, the last one.. The corp setting it, threatens to remove us from PC, then ask us to blitz NS with them. lol So poor management is a large reason why nothing has been done. That and all the guys who failed blitzing them, now fight for them So they can field their own players, plus the rest of the community volunteers So there is no chance of this 'blitz' when half the playerbase fights for them..
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 148	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:07:00 - [27] - Quote Yeah Roman...Yeah!!!! See now we brain storming...let's go Radar ...Zatara...all you other big guys...let's talk and Make OUR game fun and fair for all...enough one sided crap and alliance for no reason corps sitting around cuz no one on in there alliance cuz it's 5am in amaerica now they have a purpose while we asleep they protecting and vice versa. And if I want to wake up and help I can. But at least I know I have 4 corps up and ready Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
ColdBlooded Max Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 273	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:09:00 - [28] - Quote Sorry didn't read all this we all know what happen when we listen Kain Spero
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 217	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:11:00 - [29] - Quote I personally think you should get 1 hour. If I want to attack you you only get 1 hour to field a team that would make things interesting a real sandbox feel. This would also make having an Alliance a mustthen you could have it were alliance members could have roles in your battles to get into the battle I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD
ColdBlooded Max Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 274	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:13:00 - [30] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. So u can stack them easier?

Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4383	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:13:00 - [31] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. We attacked last weekend, faced a full team of Nyain San/Chan and Carne Con Papas. It was a tough game, and I can confirm they have their own team active. It's hardly their fault, the mass-attack's fail, the last one.. The corp setting it, threatens to remove us from PC, then ask us to blitz NS with them. lol So poor management is a large reason why nothing has been done. That and all the guys who failed blitzing them, now fight for them So they can field their own players, plus the rest of the community volunteers So there is no chance of this 'blitz' when half the playerbase fights for them.. I was in NS for the last 7 months.. And during that time they were a bit more active than NF. If we truly wanted to "blitz" then we could.. OH, PE, KEQ, TOP, ML. Would be enough. In the past has any decent corp tried to "blitz" them? I mention these corps cuz of their timezone not their allegiance. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 777	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:13:00 - [32] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: I personally think you should get 1 hour. If I want to attack you you only get 1 hour to field a team that would make things interesting a real sandbox feel. This would also make having an Alliance a mustthen you could have it were alliance members could have roles in your battles to get into the battle That would be Rediculous. If isk wasn't such a deciding factor. ..then sure. But 1 small corp spends 50 mill or rather 150 to take a cargo hub...they go to sleep happy they now in pc. Wake up and somone else has it. So...no. That'd be a horrible idea Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 148	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:14:00 - [33] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: I personally think you should get 1 hour. If I want to attack you you only get 1 hour to field a team that would make things interesting a real sandbox feel. This would also make having an Alliance a mustthen you could have it were alliance members could have roles in your battles to get into the battle You Crazy =ƒÿ¦..(and im the coo coo bird) 1 hour notice. You funny buddy. Corps can't even get ready now with 2 day notice or what ever it is...lol...one hour....ahhhh hahaha Stop it and brain storm for real.."don't be a fuddy duddy Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 777	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:15:00 - [34] - Quote ColdBlooded Max wrote: Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. So u can stack them easier? And be attacked. Yes attacker should have the advantage. But this still allows the defender to put it at a time zone best for them. So yes. Your 0600 districts would be avail to realistic people from north American and open it to Asian timers Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 148	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:18:00 - [35] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: I personally think you should get 1 hour. If I want to attack you you only get 1 hour to field a team that would make things interesting a real sandbox feel. This would also make having an Alliance a mustthen you could have it were alliance members could have roles in your battles to get into the battle That would be Rediculous. If isk wasn't such a deciding factor. ..then sure. But 1 small corp spends 50 mill or rather 150 to take a cargo hub...they go to sleep happy they now in pc. Wake up and somone else has it. So...no. That'd be a horrible idea Rotflmao....oh my goodness you so right....ahhhhhhhh hahahahaha......wake up sh!ts gone....oh my, my stomach hurts...I would be so so pisseed.... Yeah yeah shhhhhhs shhhhhh quiet. He sleeping, atttttaaaccccckkkkkkk.........lmao Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 148	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:19:00 - [36] - Quote Roman837 wrote: ColdBlooded Max wrote: Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. So u can stack them easier? And be attacked. Yes attacker should have the advantage. But this still allows the defender to put it at a time zone best for them. So yes. Your 0600 districts would be avail to realistic people from north American and open it to Asian timers Nooooooo...let's brain storm open world Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 217	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:32:00 - [37] - Quote you guys aren't thinking about this right bring back passive Isk make it were your alliance members can field your battles for you. And make the clone packs cheaper. Then if you wanted to hold land you would have to be in an alliance. If you didn't want to be in an alliance you could just troll other corps by attacking them at your leisure kinda like being a pirate corp. this would make it where anyone could get into PC and holding land would mean something and would be difficult to do I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4290	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:36:00 - [38] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. Couldn't agree more but I think +-3 hours may be a bit much. Even a 4 hour window would greatly help the situation. Thing is you can't overlap downtime so you would need to choose 0700 to 1000 or 1200 to 1500 in the case of a 4 hour window. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 148	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:45:00 - [39] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. Couldn't agree more but I think +-3 hours may be a bit much. Even a 4 hour window would greatly help the situation. Thing is you can't overlap downtime so you would need to choose 0700 to 1000 or 1200 to 1500 in the case of a 4 hour window. How about we do something totally new....a total revamp of PC... Always changing tweaking the current system to just make everyone upset... Can we finally talk about this. Get every Real Dust Vet that PC's and k ows PC. Not idiot people that just want to be stupid or have no clue of the game. Everyone says all the hard corp players are gone. Well there still a lot of us here. And honestly im at my wits end with this game. Stuff keeps going backwards then see ya. It's an noting already alwaysbeen listening to cry baby's... Anyways with that said let's trully brain storm and finally get e majority of the group to agree en Devs say yes we can do this or no but we can do this close to it. You know what I mean? Instead of we all type. And CCP does what they want anyways usually listening to dumb new players. .......... Anyways brin back my Logi car swarms are awesome now. Give us our Enforcers back. Why you take away cool things for so long to never bring them back. What was it you all said Devs. We removing Logistics Vehicles and Enforcer tanks to revamp them and release them later.... Still waiting ..... As for PC...enough tweaking...never works does it...Ever...always something and we back here... Let's finally come up with something real and let's Make Alliances mean something...this game can be so much. And it gets less and less in my opinion I tell you what CCP you change this when the time comes. And it's totality bogus. I'm so out. To many new and awesome games for Ps4 to keep dealing with same ol drama Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4291	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:49:00 - [40] - Quote I agree Shadoww. The current timer changes CCP is proposing feel like just a minor tweak that doesn't really solve anything. The problem is timers are too boring of a subject for most players to actually get involved in. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news

Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:49:00 - [41] - Quote Reason why I say total revamp...cuz -3 +3 what does that matter. So they put 4am timer means battle at 1am or 7am. That still sucks for people with jobs lives etc etc on american side.... Honestly ...what can we come up with that's fair for both sides of the world ? Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:51:00 - [42] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: I agree Shadoww. The current timer changes CCP is proposing feel like just a minor tweak that doesn't really solve anything. The problem is timers are too boring of a subject for most players to actually get involved in. How is it a boring topic. When it directly affects PC gaming Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4291	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:52:00 - [43] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Reason why I say total revamp...cuz -3 +3 what does that matter. So they put 4am timer means battle at 1am or 7am. That still sucks for people with jobs lives etc etc on american side.... Honestly ...what can we come up with that's fair for both sides of the world ? If you are actually active at the time of your timers comparable to how much land you are holding I could care less what timers are at. Pokey had a good suggestion that would separate out people "hiding" from people that have timers set to when they are most active: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=187670 Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 219	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:52:00 - [44] - Quote I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD
Alaika Arbosa Minmatar Republic 2397	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:54:00 - [45] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. Is this really a bad idea? I mean, PC as it is(was) is little more than a broken joke that amounted to pissing matches and a popularity contest for Isk farming. If it all went away and got reset from square one as a sensible and viable system, wouldn't that benefit the community as a whole as well as the "I play PC so I play the real Dust and you're all below me" crowd by giving the community at large a good reason to participate? I mean, I find it amusing that people consider any part of Dust to be "competitive" at all. Terrible lag and framerates combined with players that are without doubt worse min/maxers than any RPG could ever produce which lead to people being pigeonholed into playing specific fits just "to be competitive". Its silly is what it is. Kids and mouthbreathers beating their chests over pixels. PC isn't competitive, PC is broken. PC needs reworked from square one to ever have any hope of being taken seriously whatsoever by the community at large. If the people who consider themselves the "PC elite" only want to play with themselves and their small fraction of the community why not just give them their own server where they can beat their chests and feel special about themselves in private with other people who might actually give a damn since they feel the same way. If PC is ever to have any appeal to the majority of the playerbase, it needs a serious overhaul, as in, throw out this abomination we have currently and move forward with deliberation rather than rushing something half-baked out so that your friends will be happy. (last comment directed at previous Devs who shall remain unnamed and not Rattati who I actually think is trying to do his best for the game) Ad Space Available Here 1m Isk/day Mail me message after transferring Isk (sig updated upon transfer completion)
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4291	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:56:00 - [46] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. A really good reason that real time raiding of districts needs to be a thing. Same thing for Districts actually going back to producing value, but that production needs to be active. Going back to passive wealth generation really isn't an option. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:58:00 - [47] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. Can't work man....u need notice....even in real world. You always have notice . Can't mass 100,000 men and someone not notice. So you can't get your 16 and just go attacking people right there and then. What if only 5 players are on. Okay they have an alliance. So what now every corp in alliance has some kind of access to get people in a battle that starts NOW... Come on bro...I told u in the other thread and others told you. That's just plain stupid. No notice.,,stop it dude . That will never happen Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 16:59:00 - [48] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Reason why I say total revamp...cuz -3 +3 what does that matter. So they put 4am timer means battle at 1am or 7am. That still sucks for people with jobs lives etc etc on american side.... Honestly ...what can we come up with that's fair for both sides of the world ? If you are actually active at the time of your timers comparable to how much land you are holding I could care less what timers are at. Pokey had a good suggestion that would separate out people "hiding" from people that have timers set to when they are most active: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=187670 Wow...lot to read and understand about this fuel system. Not understanding. I need to reread it a few times brb Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 219	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:02:00 - [49] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. A really good reason that real time raiding of districts needs to be a thing. Same thing for Districts actually going back to producing value, but that production needs to be active. Going back to passive wealth generation really isn't an option. Maybe make it a defense in real time would be worth more Isk in the payout. perhaps even a separate Payout to corp based on clones destroyed I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 219	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:06:00 - [50] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. Can't work man....u need notice....even in real world. You always have notice . Can't mass 100,000 men and someone not notice. So you can't get your 16 and just go attacking people right there and then. What if only 5 players are on. Okay they have an alliance. So what now every corp in alliance has some kind of access to get people in a battle belonging to a different corp that starts NOW... Come on bro...I told u in the other thread and others told you. That's just plain stupid. No notice.,,stop it dude . That will never happen You no think with brain you want to hold land better have friends in all timers BTW I'll say what I want when I want got it chode?! I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD

Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:13:00 - [51] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. Can't work man....u need notice....even in real world. You always have notice . Can't mass 100,000 men and someone not notice. So you can't get your 16 and just go attacking people right there and then. What if only 5 players are on. Okay they have an alliance. So what now every corp in alliance has some kind of access to get people in a battle belonging to a different corp that starts NOW... Come on bro...I told u in the other thread and others told you. That's just plain stupid. No notice.,,stop it dude . That will never happen You no think with brain you want to hold land better have friends in all timers BTW I'll say what I want when I want got it chode?! What's a chode? And I never said shut up....and if u talking about me saying, stop it dude.....that's a figure of speech. Like Getattahere. Do I really mean get out of here...no im just saying stop that mess. Do I mean you making a mess. Or your a mess. No just a figure of speech. Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4292	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:13:00 - [52] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. A really good reason that real time raiding of districts needs to be a thing. Same thing for Districts actually going back to producing value, but that production needs to be active. Going back to passive wealth generation really isn't an option. Maybe make it a defense in real time would be worth more Isk in the payout. perhaps even a separate Payout to corp based on clones destroyed I think a hybrid system where you have real time attacks and attacks with notice could work well. One problem with Planetary Conquest right now is no matter what the stakes are pretty much the same. You are always fighting for ownership of the district and I think that's something that needs to change as well. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:17:00 - [53] - Quote Kain.... Okay I understand the shield/fuel concept now. So, if corp can stay active with in that window. And keep there shield up the 23 hours every day. How will anyone attack the 6am timer? You would to wait for said corp to finally not have so many active players on so attack window opens more. So if I set my timer to my peak corp time. We will always have Fuel. Would we not? And my 6am timer will always stick. Cuz I know my player base and time peak time. So Japan will still do 6am our time 6pm there time. There up playing at this time. So fuel will always be kept up. Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:19:00 - [54] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Al the destroyer wrote: I just want to make PC fun. It would be fun if when I'm on with my buddies we decide to attack someone we can do it right then and there. Many more ppl would participate in PC if this were the case no one with a life wants to schedule around a game. Let's make the reward much higher with much more risk and I promise you many more will do it. You would have to trust your alliance to have your back and you would have to have theirs. Let's make it easy to do and have a blast doing it. A really good reason that real time raiding of districts needs to be a thing. Same thing for Districts actually going back to producing value, but that production needs to be active. Going back to passive wealth generation really isn't an option. Maybe make it a defense in real time would be worth more Isk in the payout. perhaps even a separate Payout to corp based on clones destroyed I think a hybrid system where you have real time attacks and attacks with notice could work well. One problem with Planetary Conquest right now is no matter what the stakes are pretty much the same. You are always fighting for ownership of the district and I think that's something that needs to change as well. What you mean. I fight for it I own it. Why else would I fight for it? If not to own or benifit by it in some way. Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4292	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:28:00 - [55] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Kain.... Okay I understand the shield/fuel concept now. So, if corp can stay active with in that window. And keep there shield up the 23 hours every day. How will anyone attack the 6am timer? You would to wait for said corp to finally not have so many active players on so attack window opens more. So if I set my timer to my peak corp time. We will always have Fuel. Would we not? And my 6am timer will always stick. Cuz I know my player base and time peak time. So Japan will still do 6am our time 6pm there time. There up playing at this time. So fuel will always be kept up. The key part of the fuel idea is that you can only gather fuel around the timers your districts are set. Say it takes 8 people playing around the timer hour in PC, FW, or Pubs to get enough fuel to maintain the timer on one district. In the case of Nyain San they would have to have 368 players active during 1300 to maintain their current stack of timers. If they fail to maintain that level of activity their timers expand in both directions by an hour (1200-1400). If they can't get 368 equivalent players active between 1200-1400 in their corp then it would expand again to 1200-1600 and so forth. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1500	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:36:00 - [56] - Quote I'm against any idea that forces me to play pubs.
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:36:00 - [57] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Kain.... Okay I understand the shield/fuel concept now. So, if corp can stay active with in that window. And keep there shield up the 23 hours every day. How will anyone attack the 6am timer? You would to wait for said corp to finally not have so many active players on so attack window opens more. So if I set my timer to my peak corp time. We will always have Fuel. Would we not? And my 6am timer will always stick. Cuz I know my player base and time peak time. So Japan will still do 6am our time 6pm there time. There up playing at this time. So fuel will always be kept up. The key part of the fuel idea is that you can only gather fuel around the timers your districts are set. Say it takes 8 people playing around the timer hour in PC, FW, or Pubs to get enough fuel to maintain the timer on one district. In the case of Nyain San they would have to have 368 players active during 1300 to maintain their current stack of timers. If they fail to maintain that level of activity their timers expand in both directions by an hour (1200-1400). If they can't get 368 equivalent players active between 1200-1400 in their corp then it would expand again to 1200-1600 and so forth. Got it....so Ratios would need to be set based on corp/alliance size etc? How would you come up with what need for a corp to have active during set time. and is the concept saying. The more land you own the more players you need to have active for fuel? Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4292	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:45:00 - [58] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: and is the concept saying. The more land you own the more players you need to have active for fuel? Correct. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Viktor's Alt Negative-Impact Back and Forth 11	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:49:00 - [59] - Quote If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights.
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:51:00 - [60] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe

Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 150	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:55:00 - [61] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: and is the concept saying. The more land you own the more players you need to have active for fuel? Correct. That's what's up....I can dig it..... Roman, Radar, D3lta, Rabbit, Kardia, Shep Grey What you guys think....read that proposal about Shield/Fuel Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Viktor's Alt Negative-Impact Back and Forth 12	Posted - 2015.01.20 17:55:00 - [62] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4294	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:04:00 - [63] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better It's just means things are squeaky clean. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5482	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:10:00 - [64] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
SoTa PoP Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 5764	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:11:00 - [65] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. Only problem I see is region lock. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 151	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:13:00 - [66] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point. Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 151	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:15:00 - [67] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better I ring every single day....you all types of stupid huh But I get what u trying to do...have fun with that Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5482	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:17:00 - [68] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point. The goal should be to rework timer mechanics, reward mechanics, implement some checks to prevent locking behaviors and farming, alongside offering free clone packs and the corp warbarge system. The whole system isn't being thrown out, but I think at the very least, it'll be a completely different meta for what corps thrive in it and how. I noted in another thread that a lot of competitive games have seasons. Every so often they reset, people keep their rewards they got, but the actual competitive ranking resets. I think it's sensible to reset when we change mechanics heavily particularly if the placement from the prior mechanics makes it hard for the new system to work as intended right out of the gate. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4296	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:24:00 - [69] - Quote I'm not sure how just scrambling the current timers and then making it where you can't change them counts as "heavily" changing the system. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Mr Machine Guns 1003	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:26:00 - [70] - Quote Just keep timers just have it so a certain percentage of a corps districts can be set to certain timer? Maybe 20 to 30 percent

Mr Machine Guns 1003	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:27:00 - [71] - Quote Just keep timers just have it so a certain percentage of a corps districts can be set to certain timer? Maybe 20 to 30 percent it should also applied to corps with a certain number of districts too
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4296	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:28:00 - [72] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: Just keep timers just have it so a certain percentage of a corps districts can be set to certain timer? Maybe 20 to 30 percent At that point you just end up with ALT corps although that's going to be exceedingly difficult if CCP goes ahead with their activity barriers to being able to attack. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 778	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:31:00 - [73] - Quote You should not even be mentioning or considering limiting a corp to how much it can own or what timer it choses to place it's timers on. As much as we myself included complain about timers....it's their choice. The only solution to this is give an option to chose a window left or right by a decided amount of hours to hit the districts.. Other than that. There should be an incentive to own a district. It should generate isk. Doesn't have to be much. But soon as it's attacked the isk stops. And it has to be at full clones. It is our own fault if we allow a district to sit on line generating isk. That is not passive isk. That is passive opponents and players. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 151	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:32:00 - [74] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point. The goal should be to rework timer mechanics, reward mechanics, implement some checks to prevent locking behaviors and farming, alongside offering free clone packs and the corp warbarge system. The whole system isn't being thrown out, but I think at the very least, it'll be a completely different meta for what corps thrive in it and how. I noted in another thread that a lot of competitive games have seasons. Every so often they reset, people keep their rewards they got, but the actual competitive ranking resets. I think it's sensible to reset when we change mechanics heavily particularly if the placement from the prior mechanics makes it hard for the new system to work as intended right out of the gate. Resetting is fine....haven't had one. So it's time in my eyes. Why not go for it. But o ly if trully a new system. If it's just tweaks. I won't even care im just going to leave. This is my last year with Dust and other people if stuff don't change im sure. There just way way to much other awesome stuff now in PS4 world. Why stay here for more headache... This is deffenetly going to make or break dust player count. I for one this goes side ways....see ya later 3 years of grief to just get more and more...nahhhhh...my last try I hope CCP make a good decision I hope we can all come up with something trully fair. Cuz honestly Do we really want to keep playing each other...it's been 3 years same ol crap different day... That brings me to my next point. Bring back Logistics and Enforcer vehicles. Swarms are where they need to be AV period is awesome across the board. So bring back what was fun. Bring some more to e table. Cuz honestly. Do all you guys and gals really want to play with this same ol game another year. Same arguments same people in PC just under different banners.... IM at my end. This is 100% my last year. It doesn't develope im not giving the, another 4 years to see the same people in PC again and again and again and again....jeeze Do we Need to just make One Corp have every dust player in PC Join we make a true 100% donut and tell CCP enough man. It's just Us Here...I for one am tired of seeing Ghostt Shadoww, MMG, NickMunson,Roman,Devin,Rabbit, O.H.,NS,ML,CAP,AE...been here 3 years same people on top same arguments same same same same same Well I finally got a PS4 2 days ago...and this is it for me...Dust either changes to where I don't see he same people on top all the time. And more variety in PC for the small people...or see you later. Cuz it's obvious everything they do..it's only us top corps fighting each other. New people come in we boot them period.... 3 years people 3 years same ol damn SH!t and same ol damn people Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Mr Machine Guns 1004	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:34:00 - [75] - Quote Agree NS has earned to right to put the district to whatever timer they want, the Japanese players in NS would attack timers unfair to them and take those district and switch to their prime time not to mention downtime is in their prime time too so Ccp has also taken away a timer for all Asian corps
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 750	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:34:00 - [76] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC. Additionally, both of you have legacies of negatively effecting PC for the greater playerbase community as a whole, what with the DNS 100% directive and the 1000 Clone Army attack threat that inspired the formation of one of the largest and longest PC corp donuts to date. I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better ^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^ (Yeah, I fixed it a little bit...) Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Viktor's Alt Negative-Impact Back and Forth 15	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:36:00 - [77] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better I ring every single day....you all types of stupid huh But I get what u trying to do...have fun with that That's strange cause I truely ring everyday and have not seen you in months.
Mr Machine Guns 1004	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:40:00 - [78] - Quote What Kain also forgets to mention how Ns has peronsally help corps set up their version of Pfc in Almur and Kain don't forget the districts Ns was going to give up so you could set up corp battles on Bosena the only reason Kain is saying all these negative things about Ns is because NS helped AE and not him so if Ccp is actually listening to him it's just lol because of a personal grudge one player has
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 151	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:40:00 - [79] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Viktor's Alt wrote: If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them. Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better I ring every single day....you all types of stupid huh But I get what u trying to do...have fun with that That's strange cause I truely ring everyday and have not seen you in months. When I said good luck with that... Ment Im Ignore you from here on out. Cuz you just typing nonsense....good day sir o7 Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 151	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:44:00 - [80] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: What Kain also forgets to mention how Ns has peronsally help corps set up their version of Pfc in Almur and Kain don't forget the districts Ns was going to give up so you could set up corp battles on Bosena the only reason Kain is saying all these negative things about Ns is because NS helped AE and not him so if Ccp is actually listening to him it's just lol because of a personal grudge one player has This is why I'm leaving soon....same ol sh!t different day... Let me know when you guys want to trully talk about this game. And done with the Meta. I'm go play for a few hours. Maybe by then the Meta game will stop. And we can get back to talking about the true problem at hand MMG and all you other trolls....you such children for real. Can't ever be men and just brain storm fr the good of the game Damn kids can't never be serious....good day see yall in a few hours o7 Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2919	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:45:00 - [81] - Quote Any idea that both Kain and Ghostttt like must be a bad one.....
Moorian Flav 297	Posted - 2015.01.20 18:51:00 - [82] - Quote If this is really such a problem, why didn't a current CPM bring this up? BTW, I do find it funny it is at this point PC may actually be reset. Back when 80%-90% of the corps were peacefully farming ISK together, a reset or shutdown of PC was simply impossible. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 308	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:05:00 - [83] - Quote Don't need to read entire thread. This coming from the same guy who led TP, which owned 33% with less than 40 people. Who ran ERA, which owned 30% and couldn't field a team under its own flag to save its life - instead COMPLETELY relying on a massive ringer teams consisting of ERA/STB/TP/NF/FA/etc.. Who forced the 100% idea down the community's throat to "help them" after the spoils were commandeered. Your argument is to strong arm NS because they can't field all their battles? My my, pot/kettle conundrum here. Not that I agree with them holding the amount of land to begin with, for some reasons aforementioned, but for you to attempt to command our agenda is ludacrous. I noticed in your OP that Rattati obviously recognizes your opinion. Why don't you instead take that responsibility and utilize it in a way you may not be familiar with - promoting pc. Bring back the incentive to actually fight for the land, not just have battles between each other because there's nothing else to do. Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself. I've heard talk of some carebear sh!t like only alliance members can play in battles after PC 2.0 - seriously? I guess they should change the Dust514 intro movie, wherein characters are described as mercenaries? Talk about donutization of MH, a wasteland for any small organization - an ideal that does anything BUT follow the eve/dust premise. Oh Roman, I guess I could then attack your 0200 and make it a 0500 battle, ay? Ya know, OUR primetime. I know you've had your warm glass of milk and are probably tucked in, but we'll be waiting. Look both ways before crossing the street -> Nocturnal Acquisitions, pleasing vampires and Pacific Islanders since Uprising. Alright...back to my BIscuits and gravy.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4296	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:06:00 - [84] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: What Kain also forgets to mention how Ns has peronsally help corps set up their version of Pfc in Almur and Kain don't forget the districts Ns was going to give up so you could set up corp battles on Bosena the only reason Kain is saying all these negative things about Ns is because NS helped AE and not him so if Ccp is actually listening to him it's just lol because of a personal grudge one player has Nah, the negative things about NS has to come from the fact that your corp is now largely inactive yet you continue to hold onto 47 districts all stacked on a timer that you don't even have the raw numbers to utilize. Again, your land is going to be forfeit one way or the other. The question is are you going to make CCP pry it from your inactive hands or let the players redistribute it themselves? Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5482	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:09:00 - [85] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: This is deffenetly going to make or break dust player count. I for one this goes side ways....see ya later 3 years of grief to just get more and more...nahhhhh...my last try I hope CCP make a good decision I hope we can all come up with something trully fair. Cuz honestly I recommend participating as helpfully as possible in the Feedback and Ideas Discussion board where CCP Rattati has threads going on for the first few aspects of PC that are going to be touched. (As well as a thread on bringing back more HAV types.) Shepherd Grey wrote: Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself. I agree it's important that success in PC be profitable. However passive ISK can never be a thing again. I think the goal is to ensure that there is good solid payout for real fights. It needs to be very difficult to farm the system. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Al the destroyer 0uter.Heaven 221	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:24:00 - [86] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting *all* of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point. The goal should be to rework timer mechanics, reward mechanics, implement some checks to prevent locking behaviors and farming, alongside offering free clone packs and the corp warbarge system. The whole system isn't being thrown out, but I think at the very least, it'll be a completely different meta for what corps thrive in it and how. I noted in another thread that a lot of competitive games have seasons. Every so often they reset, people keep their rewards they got, but the actual competitive ranking resets. I think it's sensible to reset when we change mechanics heavily particularly if the placement from the prior mechanics makes it hard for the new system to work as intended right out of the gate. Resetting is fine....haven't had one. So it's time in my eyes. Why not go for it. But o ly if trully a new system. If it's just tweaks. I won't even care im just going to leave. This is my last year with Dust and other people if stuff don't change im sure. There just way way to much other awesome stuff now in PS4 world. Why stay here for more headache... This is deffenetly going to make or break dust player count. I for one this goes side ways....see ya later 3 years of grief to just get more and more...nahhhhh...my last try I hope CCP make a good decision I hope we can all come up with something trully fair. Cuz honestly Do we really want to keep playing each other...it's been 3 years same ol crap different day... That brings me to my next point. Bring back Logistics and Enforcer vehicles. Swarms are where they need to be AV period is awesome across the board. So bring back what was fun. Bring some more to e table. Cuz honestly. Do all you guys and gals really want to play with this same ol game another year. Same arguments same people in PC just under different banners.... IM at my end. This is 100% my last year. It doesn't develope im not giving the, another 4 years to see the same people in PC again and again and again and again....jeeze Do we Need to just make One Corp have every dust player in PC Join we make a true 100% donut and tell CCP enough man. It's just Us Here...I for one am tired of seeing Ghostt Shadoww, MMG, NickMunson,Roman,Devin,Rabbit, O.H.,NS,ML,CAP,AE...been here 3 years same people on top same arguments same same same same same Well I finally got a PS4 2 days ago...and this is it for me...Dust either changes to where I don't see he same people on top all the time. And more variety in PC for the small people...or see you later. Cuz it's obvious everything they do..it's only us top corps fighting each other. New people come in we boot them period.... 3 years people 3 years same ol damn SH!t and same ol damn people You want new ppl in PC get rid of the stupid complicated rules fine you don't like 1 hour make it 3 but if it is where you have to jump though a bunch if hoops wait 24 hrs to what... get a district that gains you nothing but clones? You will be fighting the same ppl over and over. Get over worring whether or not you have a district and find some good fights. I play with a guy who has 98 million so who has never been in a PC. Why because it's a pain in the a55. Think outside the box, easier and faster with less cost and better rewards more player that's the goal. I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4297	Posted - 2015.01.20 19:48:00 - [87] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Don't need to read entire thread. This coming from the same guy who led TP, which owned 33% with less than 40 people. Who ran ERA, which owned 30% and couldn't field a team under its own flag to save its life - instead COMPLETELY relying on a massive ringer teams consisting of ERA/STB/TP/NF/FA/etc.. Who forced the 100% idea down the community's throat to "help them" after the spoils were commandeered. Your argument is to strong arm NS because they can't field all their battles? My my, pot/kettle conundrum here. Not that I agree with them holding the amount of land to begin with, for some reasons aforementioned, but for you to attempt to command our agenda is ludacrous. I noticed in your OP that Rattati obviously recognizes your opinion. Why don't you instead take that responsibility and utilize it in a way you may not be familiar with - promoting pc. Bring back the incentive to actually fight for the land, not just have battles between each other because there's nothing else to do. Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself. I've heard talk of some carebear sh!t like only alliance members can play in battles after PC 2.0 - seriously? I guess they should change the Dust514 intro movie, wherein characters are described as mercenaries? Talk about donutization of MH, a wasteland for any small organization - an ideal that does anything BUT follow the eve/dust premise. Oh Roman, I guess I could then attack your 0200 and make it a 0500 battle, ay? Ya know, OUR primetime. I know you've had your warm glass of milk and are probably tucked in, but we'll be waiting. Look both ways before crossing the street -> Nocturnal Acquisitions, pleasing vampires and Pacific Islanders since Uprising. Alright...back to my BIscuits and gravy. I think bringing back rewards to districts is critical for the health of Planetary Conquest in the long run. Those rewards need to be generated actively through gameplay though. Passive wealth generation will just make things like what I did with DNS not only possible again but probable. I don't regret exposing how dysfunctional PC was through player action. That's often the only way that CCP really listens. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4385	Posted - 2015.01.20 20:05:00 - [88] - Quote Shep...I lead TP not Kain Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 310	Posted - 2015.01.20 20:51:00 - [89] - Quote The paradox of "actively" gaining the rewards as compared to passively is a judgement of the lesser of two evils. Passive can lead to doughnut large-scale care bear farming. Active can lead to malicious "farming" of lower-tiered corps via attacking repeatedly, subsequently destroying corps' morale entirely and pushing them out of MH. There has to be a balance of both.....in such a way that neither scenario is encouraged or lucrative. You must be rewarded for having the land, and using it. I understand that the complexity of devising such a reward scale is beyond CCP's applicable capacity, but formulating a blueprint that can be simplified (dumbed down) would motivate corps across the board to exercise entrepreneurship and risk their investment into MH. No doubt a double-edged sword, from either perspective. Take this for example.... District gets 10 mil/day. However, each passing day that the district is not "used" this passive payment decreases exponentially. So today, NS's districts would pay them 0, because they aren't used in any way. Or take away the isk, instead a district gets X weapons/equipment etc at the same decreasing magnitude. Then either/or would be instead earned through active battle, i.e. PC. Periodic free clone packs for new corps without land, to break in without losing it all. Farming could have been ended long ago, if CCP would take five minutes to simply monitor every PC that goes on: spectate a battle that they know is going on - they see no one in it, a warning is issued (or fine). Second infraction, increased consequence - leading to removal of districts/corporate dissolution/bans/etc. A few corps would be set an example, the rest would realize that law is enforced properly. The community could assist by reporting suspects, simplifying this process for devs. I just can't wrap my head around the direction PC is going. In what other situation, in any other game (VG's or RL sports) are the highest-tiered competitors effectively "punished" for aspiring to reach the top? Meaning, why would the risk reap no reward for PC corps, instead becoming an isk-drain? What kind of communist setup do the lobby shooter hobby players in pubs deserve the same income as the "pros"? Duna514, everyone. Inb4elitist?
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 751	Posted - 2015.01.20 22:33:00 - [90] - Quote Nocturnal Acquisitions: We came, We saw, We stole your bedtime. gpn Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.

Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1072	Posted - 2015.01.21 01:00:00 - [91] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Don't need to read entire thread. This coming from the same guy who led TP, which owned 33% with less than 40 people. Who ran ERA, which owned 30% and couldn't field a team under its own flag to save its life - instead COMPLETELY relying on a massive ringer teams consisting of ERA/STB/TP/NF/FA/etc.. Who forced the 100% idea down the community's throat to "help them" after the spoils were commandeered. Your argument is to strong arm NS because they can't field all their battles? My my, pot/kettle conundrum here. Not that I agree with them holding the amount of land to begin with, for some reasons aforementioned, but for you to attempt to command our agenda is ludacrous. I noticed in your OP that Rattati obviously recognizes your opinion. Why don't you instead take that responsibility and utilize it in a way you may not be familiar with - promoting pc. Bring back the incentive to actually fight for the land, not just have battles between each other because there's nothing else to do. Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself. I've heard talk of some carebear sh!t like only alliance members can play in battles after PC 2.0 - seriously? I guess they should change the Dust514 intro movie, wherein characters are described as mercenaries? Talk about donutization of MH, a wasteland for any small organization - an ideal that does anything BUT follow the eve/dust premise. Oh Roman, I guess I could then attack your 0200 and make it a 0500 battle, ay? Ya know, OUR primetime. I know you've had your warm glass of milk and are probably tucked in, but we'll be waiting. Look both ways before crossing the street -> Nocturnal Acquisitions, pleasing vampires and Pacific Islanders since Uprising. Alright...back to my BIscuits and gravy. This coming from the guy who hid all of Cap Acq's districts at Nyain-San-o-clock to save them from KEQ. Legion will be out before you or Cap Acq are either relevant or competent, Shepherd. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
Everything Dies Same Dung Different Year 1184	Posted - 2015.01.21 02:44:00 - [92] - Quote Question related to active/passive ISK farming: What if districts paid more ISK, the longer you left your timer window open? Example: A district set to the bare minimum timer (an hour?) would generate next to nothing in terms of ISK. However, setting the timer to a four-hour window, say, would generate significantly more ISK. Leaving it open 24 hours could generate large amounts of ISK...but would leave the district vulnerable to attack at any time. Obviously, ISK amounts would have to be monitored (perhaps a district that hasn't been attacked in a certain amount of time stops generating ISK?) to prevent large alliances from simply throwing open a bunch of districts and then covering for each other without the actual district owner having to do much work themselves. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 749	Posted - 2015.01.21 04:04:00 - [93] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Nah, the negative things about NS has to come from the fact that your corp is now largely inactive yet you continue to hold onto 47 districts all stacked on a timer that you don't even have the raw numbers to utilize. Who is this guy and how does he know how active we are? Who is internal error? Why do they care? Do they own land? Do they matter? Are they really a thing, I've never heard of them...Is this an alt? In response to shadoww's alt I say that this is the most active corp I've ever been in, and some random pub scrub has no place speaking in what's what in pc, or in a corp they have no connection to. Even if we were inactive, we'd still be 10 times more active than ur corp homie. wat is u gonna do about it dawg declare ware? u aint even got an army dawg, wat is u? Man, people these days. It's almost as bad as when homeless start running their mouths with conspiracy theories, utterly disgusting. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
MCLOVIN619 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 19	Posted - 2015.01.21 06:39:00 - [94] - Quote Come on viktor don't make fun of him,rebellion makes him a lot of isk....on a serious note though guys I'm one of the vu guys that was all for taking nyain San districts and a big advocate of them doin it a top(why aren't yall still attacking them btw?) and even I don't believe in a reset,I believe that if corps just all sent out attacks on Saturday with 150 clones we would take a lot of districts The all father to the almighty,righteous,one and only law bringing hammer that will dispose of all opposition,I am Simba
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 750	Posted - 2015.01.21 07:30:00 - [95] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Stuff that doesn't matter Hey buddy no matter what happens we're gonna have districts, the point of districts is to fight people in other corps/competitively. Unless the issue is that they're going to completely remove the feature, it doesn't matter tbh, the only people who should care are the people that want to blatantly farm, and avoid fighting at all costs. I mean sure, I guess you could say that "owning districts" is cool, but it's all just paper really, no one has any effect on any district beyond giving them funny names with alt. corps(which I will admit is a tragic loss), or changing the map to another map that may or may not be the map you want. If you honestly think that Nyain San is the only reason for the changes, you're an idiot. It's always been an issue that corporations hold too many districts even though they don't have enough players to defend all those districts. If you disagree, then go make your voice heard in features and discussion. Also don't question anyone else's credentials, especially with the tags your carrying around, it's disgraceful. GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
Everything Dies Same Dung Different Year 1185	Posted - 2015.01.21 13:54:00 - [96] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Nah, the negative things about NS has to come from the fact that your corp is now largely inactive yet you continue to hold onto 47 districts all stacked on a timer that you don't even have the raw numbers to utilize. Who is this guy and how does he know how active we are? Who is internal error? Why do they care? Do they own land? Do they matter? Are they really a thing, I've never heard of them...Is this an alt? In response to shadoww's alt I say that this is the most active corp I've ever been in, and some random pub scrub has no place speaking in what's what in pc, or in a corp they have no connection to. Even if we were inactive, we'd still be 10 times more active than ur corp homie. wat is u gonna do about it dawg declare ware? u aint even got an army dawg, wat is u? Man, people these days. It's almost as bad as when homeless start running their mouths with conspiracy theories, utterly disgusting. You're probably going to want to delete your post. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4311	Posted - 2015.01.21 15:06:00 - [97] - Quote It seems so far that diplomacy with Nyain San is going to win the day. There is a tentative agreement for them to maintain 10 districts on the 1200-1300 timer while the other 36 will have their timers moved in increments of 4 per hour starting with the 1700 timer. After that it will be up to the community to take it from there. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5777	Posted - 2015.01.21 16:44:00 - [98] - Quote Sounds like it's already far past this. Instead of addressing timers and opening up PC by limiting the ability of small elite groups to dominate it sounds like they are entertaining more of a PS2 approach. Window timers and instant battles would have been SOOO much better. Too bad. I hope it doesn't end up a wake up and take everything back from Faction Warfare Army type of deal. I'm selling Templar Codes. 3 of 4 remaining. 200 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 155	Posted - 2015.01.21 16:44:00 - [99] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Question related to active/passive ISK farming: What if districts paid more ISK, the longer you left your timer window open? Example: A district set to the bare minimum timer (an hour?) would generate next to nothing in terms of ISK. However, setting the timer to a four-hour window, say, would generate significantly more ISK. Leaving it open 24 hours could generate large amounts of ISK...but would leave the district vulnerable to attack at any time. Obviously, ISK amounts would have to be monitored (perhaps a district that hasn't been attacked in a certain amount of time stops generating ISK?) to prevent large alliances from simply throwing open a bunch of districts and then covering for each other without the actual district owner having to do much work themselves. Hey Man, I think you on to something here. I'm liking it. Maybe incorporate this with the fuel / shield idea somehow. But yeah, good bullet point to brainstorm Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 155	Posted - 2015.01.21 16:47:00 - [100] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Nah, the negative things about NS has to come from the fact that your corp is now largely inactive yet you continue to hold onto 47 districts all stacked on a timer that you don't even have the raw numbers to utilize. Who is this guy and how does he know how active we are? Who is internal error? Why do they care? Do they own land? Do they matter? Are they really a thing, I've never heard of them...Is this an alt? In response to shadoww's alt I say that this is the most active corp I've ever been in, and some random pub scrub has no place speaking in what's what in pc, or in a corp they have no connection to. Even if we were inactive, we'd still be 10 times more active than ur corp homie. wat is u gonna do about it dawg declare ware? u aint even got an army dawg, wat is u? Man, people these days. It's almost as bad as when homeless start running their mouths with conspiracy theories, utterly disgusting. 1..... Who are you? (Serious question have no idea who you are. Are you even on a leaderboard? Any of the 10? 2.... What the fudge are you trying to say? 3.... Who are you again? Ps...I don't have an Alt. Never have never will Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe

Ghostt Shadoww Carne Con Papas 155	Posted - 2015.01.21 16:59:00 - [101] - Quote Question....what if CAP goes after land. And they end up owning 25-35%. You guys going to b!tch then as well. Who is going to attack and get all this land. Are you top corps going to leave it open for new comers. Or are all of you going to go after it like candy. Honestly...Nyain San sitting on districts. Strong arming them is 100% wrong. I surprised they sitting by. If anyone doesn't like what someone is doing with there districts. Then go take them. Wake up and take them.. I still think this is a bunch of cry baby stuff. So many failed blitz to Nyian San. To now they have to free up there land. Cause no one can get up at 5am. So for all those failed try's in The past. All the headache and drama all these blitz caused. Now for nothing. Cause some weak cry baby's can't wake up and fight themselves Again a change is needed. But making a corp give it up. And all you guys say they can't field and still you can't wake up.. Wow guess that's the American way. Easy way out stupid political sh!t..... Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 315	Posted - 2015.01.21 17:04:00 - [102] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: This coming from the guy who hid all of Cap Acq's districts at Nyain-San-o-clock to save them from KEQ. Tell ya what high roller, point me in the direction of anything you own, and you can tell me where good hiding spots are after we're through with you. If I didn't know your corp better, or my relation with Hawkin were any less, I'd be getting PR QQ mails by the droves the moment attacks were launched to effectively rearrange your lip machine like the human centipede. Or have you just been converted to Eastern Orthodox Romanism recently? You know only 120,000 clones actually "make it" according to his teachings, right?
Shepherd Grey Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 315	Posted - 2015.01.21 17:14:00 - [103] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Question....what if CAP goes after land. And they end up owning 25-35%. Answer: We already have more land that I want or need, ever. CAP is neither imperialistic, nor elitist. Just a bunch of hobbits gettin down in the shire. You can take that 30% all the way to mordor, golem....districts are no longer precious.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1504	Posted - 2015.01.21 17:47:00 - [104] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: This coming from the guy who hid all of Cap Acq's districts at Nyain-San-o-clock to save them from KEQ. Tell ya what high roller, point me in the direction of anything you own, and you can tell me where good hiding spots are after we're through with you. If I didn't know your corp better, or my relation with Hawkin were any less, I'd be getting PR QQ mails by the droves the moment attacks were launched to effectively rearrange your lip machine like the human centipede. Or have you just been converted to Eastern Orthodox Romanism recently? You know only 120,000 clones actually "make it" according to his teachings, right? Leave the poor lady alone.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4313	Posted - 2015.01.21 18:22:00 - [105] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Question....what if CAP goes after land. And they end up owning 25-35%. Answer: We already have more land that I want or need, ever. CAP is neither imperialistic, nor elitist. Just a bunch of hobbits gettin down in the shire. You can take that 30% all the way to mordor, golem....districts are no longer precious. Well, hopefully something will give and make districts truly worth fighting over again. Removing passive ISK was a stopgap and never meant for a final solution. With client side patches back to being a thing though I really hope CCP introduces active wealth generation to land, raiding, and many of the other cool things we've been waiting years to actually see happen. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
DJINN Rampage Pure Evil. Capital Punishment. 1679	Posted - 2015.01.21 19:31:00 - [106] - Quote Hiroshima all over again Dust 514 Playboy Of The Year 2015 *True* *Ancient Exile.* Questions And Concerns Please Join "Rampy's Office"
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4396	Posted - 2015.01.21 20:14:00 - [107] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5775	Posted - 2015.01.21 20:18:00 - [108] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any field stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4396	Posted - 2015.01.21 20:25:00 - [109] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. Adolf found that out lol. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5780	Posted - 2015.01.21 20:44:00 - [110] - Quote Shepherd Grey wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: This coming from the guy who hid all of Cap Acq's districts at Nyain-San-o-clock to save them from KEQ. Tell ya what high roller, point me in the direction of anything you own, and you can tell me where good hiding spots are after we're through with you. If I didn't know your corp better, or my relation with Hawkin were any less, I'd be getting PR QQ mails by the droves the moment attacks were launched to effectively rearrange your lip machine like the human centipede. Or have you just been converted to Eastern Orthodox Romanism recently? You know only 120,000 clones actually "make it" according to his teachings, right? No offense to Leither, but the dude has like 5 hours of Dust in the last year. He's a smart dude, but he doesn't have much of an idea about the current goings on in PC. I believe he was active in RND a bit around the time that RND went to DNS. Since coming to Molon he's hardly played. I'm selling Templar Codes. 3 of 4 remaining. 200 mil ISK. Message me in game.

gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 754	Posted - 2015.01.21 22:41:00 - [111] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: 1..... Who are you? (Serious question have no idea who you are. Are you even on a leaderboard? Any of the 10? 2.... What the fudge are you trying to say? 3.... Who are you again? Ps...I don't have an Alt. Never have never will. I have 1 billion Isk and 80 mill SP ....no alt here buddy Ayy ghost do ya go up an down da blok askin people bout if da sky is blue dawg? Cause you dun smurfed up homie, yu be like "ayy gusatvo did ya see da sky was blue?" and I be like "ayy swerve" GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1368	Posted - 2015.01.21 23:50:00 - [112] - Quote So, NS goes and takes districts not on their timers and gets punished for it. That tells me that in the future if no one can take your districts CCP will do it for the community. So much for the gamers building the sandbox. Why don't black people go on cruises? They are not falling for that again!
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 3520	Posted - 2015.01.22 00:20:00 - [113] - Quote I would laugh at all of you, but I can't for some damn reason. Still PC being removed is the fastest fix... [12:23:46 AM] Breakin Stuff: GODIN THAT IS HANDS DOWN THE STUPIDEST F*ING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1074	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:11:00 - [114] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: This coming from the guy who hid all of Cap Acq's districts at Nyain-San-o-clock to save them from KEQ. Tell ya what high roller, point me in the direction of anything you own, and you can tell me where good hiding spots are after we're through with you. If I didn't know your corp better, or my relation with Hawkin were any less, I'd be getting PR QQ mails by the droves the moment attacks were launched to effectively rearrange your lip machine like the human centipede. Or have you just been converted to Eastern Orthodox Romanism recently? You know only 120,000 clones actually "make it" according to his teachings, right? No offense to Leither, but the dude has like 5 hours of Dust in the last year. He's a smart dude, but he doesn't have much of an idea about the current goings on in PC. I believe he was active in RND a bit around the time that RND went to DNS. Since coming to Molon he's hardly played. 5 hours is an understatement. Under 100 is not. Saying I have no idea about the goings on is irrelevant (though it's hard to have no idea about nothing), since I was talking about something that happened more than a year ago. What Shepherd just spouted was some inane gibberish, which is really no more than I'd expect from him. In the post that I quoted of his, everything he was whining about in reference to Kain was something he has done in the past. Hiring ringers prolifically? Check. Holding more districts than his corporation needed to hold? Check. If I can give him one accolade, it's that he's consistent. I don't think a single event has trickled through MH that he hasn't had some sort of crybaby response to. The real shame is that the mass exodus from this game of boatloads of PC players has somehow, against all odds, bolstered Cap Acq into the realm of relative competency. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5812	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:20:00 - [115] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Shepherd Grey wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: This coming from the guy who hid all of Cap Acq's districts at Nyain-San-o-clock to save them from KEQ. Tell ya what high roller, point me in the direction of anything you own, and you can tell me where good hiding spots are after we're through with you. If I didn't know your corp better, or my relation with Hawkin were any less, I'd be getting PR QQ mails by the droves the moment attacks were launched to effectively rearrange your lip machine like the human centipede. Or have you just been converted to Eastern Orthodox Romanism recently? You know only 120,000 clones actually "make it" according to his teachings, right? No offense to Leither, but the dude has like 5 hours of Dust in the last year. He's a smart dude, but he doesn't have much of an idea about the current goings on in PC. I believe he was active in RND a bit around the time that RND went to DNS. Since coming to Molon he's hardly played. 5 hours is an understatement. Under 100 is not. Saying I have no idea about the goings on is irrelevant (though it's hard to have no idea about nothing), since I was talking about something that happened more than a year ago. What Shepherd just spouted was some inane gibberish, which is really no more than I'd expect from him. In the post that I quoted of his, everything he was whining about in reference to Kain was something he has done in the past. Hiring ringers prolifically? Check. Holding more districts than his corporation needed to hold? Check. If I can give him one accolade, it's that he's consistent. I don't think a single event has trickled through MH that he hasn't had some sort of crybaby response to. The real shame is that the mass exodus from this game of boatloads of PC players has somehow, against all odds, bolstered Cap Acq into the realm of relative competency. I'm not sure what's given you the idea that Cap Acq isn't good. They are really good. They'd be really good even if all the old school people came back. I'm selling Templar Codes. 3 of 4 remaining. 200 mil ISK. Message me in game.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1368	Posted - 2015.01.22 10:20:00 - [116] - Quote Leither, funny response. Thor. untrue. You know why there are no Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future either.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1368	Posted - 2015.01.22 11:33:00 - [117] - Quote Kain must have something to gain or why else would he be worried about it. Any of you that have been around should know this. You know why there are no Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future either.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5819	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:19:00 - [118] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Leither, funny response. Thor. untrue. Lol, okay bud I'm selling Templar Codes. 3 of 4 remaining. 200 mil ISK. Message me in game.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1369	Posted - 2015.01.22 14:23:00 - [119] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Leither, funny response. Thor. untrue. Lol, okay bud I seem to forget who you are and why you would think they are good lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Propaganda X Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:11:00 - [120] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Kain must have something to gain or why else would he be worried about it. Any of you that have been around should know this. Yea IDK if anybody remembers but, why is Kain still playing this game? After killing a lot of the player base and killing PC for a certain amount of time. You would think this guy would just shut up already. IDK even know why anybody else continued to fill this thread.

TRULY ELITE Titans of Phoenix 283	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:57:00 - [121] - Quote I don't see how a reset to PC is a bad thing, it means corps will have to earn things using their teams and not sit on districts that they've had for months which no one is willing to attack Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar. Assault, Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout MK.0
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1376	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:20:00 - [122] - Quote TRULY ELITE wrote: I don't see how a reset to PC is a bad thing, it means corps will have to earn things using their teams and not sit on districts that they've had for months which no one is willing to attack There you go. Why are you not willing to attack it? Scared? I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1376	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:30:00 - [123] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. umm, Sota, why would have the United States wanted to bomb Russia during WW2? Please explain this to me. I am lost and your vast knowledge is needed at this point. I just can't wrap my head around why we would want to nuke Russia. Furthermore, where did you get your facts that the subs were in the way AND we didn't have enough fuel stations? Just curious. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4403	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:10:00 - [124] - Quote For those of you upset with Kain understand this. This is not what he wants but he wanted to let us know that we have a choice before CCP does something. If we let CCP do it it'll probably fck everything up like normal. But if you guys would rather wait to see how it plays out then I don't blame you, that's what I'm doing. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 3521	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:40:00 - [125] - Quote Lets blame Kane, because he did things that screwed you over... Regarding the russia/ww2 thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable [12:23:46 AM] Breakin Stuff: GODIN THAT IS HANDS DOWN THE STUPIDEST F*ING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1377	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:46:00 - [126] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Lets blame Kane, because he did things that screwed you over... Regarding the russia/ww2 thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable Delete this. He is talking about during WW2. This was after and NOT what Sota was referring to. Germany surrendered before we dropped the bomb on Japan. Do we really need to get into a history lesson lol Delete that. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1117	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:51:00 - [127] - Quote I think a PC reset would do you guys a lot of good. And you can laugh as The Worst Corp To Ever Hold More Land Than STB(which is NS of course) holds 0% from here on out.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5800	Posted - 2015.01.23 00:15:00 - [128] - Quote snipped - aint worth it. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:33:00 - [129] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4415	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:38:00 - [130] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5806	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:42:00 - [131] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Just ignore him. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 101	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:45:00 - [132] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Tried? Well, a non-aggression pact was signed. The two then proceeded to divide Poland between them.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:47:00 - [133] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 They had agreed to split Poland but this has nothing to do with 'Merica wanting to nuke Russia. **** stabbed the Ruskies in the back or some ** along those lines and it was on. So Sota, just post some information backing what you said and I will move along. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:50:00 - [134] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Tried? Well, a non-aggression pact was signed. The two then proceeded to divide Poland between them. And from the start of that agreement it seems like I read ****** began staging troops at the Russian border waiting on the opportunity to advance into the Motherland. I mean, it is all in the history books lol Even what Sota said, if true would be in the history books unless of course it was some random jibberish from a person who really had no idea that the Russians were on our side. Naaaah, that would never happen lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 566	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:51:00 - [135] - Quote Seems to me yall could do multiple strikes on the timer - you know wake up early/stay up late once, take some of the land, and set it to your own timer....force them to play on your timer to get it back....
Patrick57 Incorruptibles 9675	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:52:00 - [136] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: If you have a job a life. That's your problem. you heard ghostt, quit your jobs, quit having a life, then you can take their districts i fucking hate waffles
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1423	Posted - 2015.01.24 15:29:00 - [137] - Quote Been a couple of days now. Does this mean there is nothing written about America going to nuke Russia during WW2? lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Everything Dies Same Dung Different Year 1194	Posted - 2015.01.24 19:32:00 - [138] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Even what Sota said, if true would be in the history books unless of course it was some random jibberish from a person who really had no idea that the Russians were on our side. Naaaah, that would never happen lol Don't put too much trust in history/textbooks: http://www.cracked.com/article_21131_6-disturbing-things-i-learned-writing-your-textbooks.html Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1425	Posted - 2015.01.24 19:58:00 - [139] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Even what Sota said, if true would be in the history books unless of course it was some random jibberish from a person who really had no idea that the Russians were on our side. Naaaah, that would never happen lol Don't put too much trust in history/textbooks: http://www.cracked.com/article_21131_6-disturbing-things-i-learned-writing-your-textbooks.html i'll take my chances on that us bombing Russia and only failing due to their submarines and not having a jump off location as being untrue and unable to prove. Was dribble from a person who actually thinks/thought we were at war with Russia during WW2. I saw Romans boat. It was very majestic and had a golden glow around it as if it were spiritual.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 770	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:22:00 - [140] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. lol so corps can intentionally stack timers if you launch two attacks on a corp with 3 hour differentials? nah. LogicGäó

Viktor's Alt Negative-Impact Back and Forth 37	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:44:00 - [141] - Quote This thread has gotten so unbelievably stupid. ))<>(( Back and Forth 4EVA
Mr Machine Guns 1030	Posted - 2015.01.24 21:00:00 - [142] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: This thread has gotten so unbelievably stupid. Welcome to the war room
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5822	Posted - 2015.01.25 01:35:00 - [143] - Quote Bigole - since you seem so desperate, please go google the russian trade lines in the baltic seas and there importance to the german economy and supplies. Thanks. America never attempted to nuke russia - we attempted to get ships in there seas. And if you knew about our navy you'd see why the two are related. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Propaganda X Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2015.01.25 02:52:00 - [144] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district. First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down. Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5824	Posted - 2015.01.25 03:02:00 - [145] - Quote Propaganda X wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district. First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down. Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team. stfu no one cares what you have to say until you get off the alt to say it. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 762	Posted - 2015.01.25 03:11:00 - [146] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: stfu no one cares what you have to say until you get off the alt to say it. What baffles me is why people think that Nyain San is the only offender, or why they think that just because kane says something, that is makes it so. Does anyone honestly believe that if we make nyain changes their timers, that ratatati will say "oh there's nothing wrong here lets move on to something else." It's a laughable thought, that's basically saying "oh that guy shot this guy, but this guy didn't die... oh everything's fine then" GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 787	Posted - 2015.01.26 00:08:00 - [147] - Quote If all districts are about to be resetted (basically nobody owns the land) then the same thing will happend when PC started. get stright on after downtime and put your flag onto a district. You comming 1 hour late? Well sorry to hear that cause all districts have beeing grabbed while you had breakfast. Just remember what the Cronos alliance did with SI, GAC, WTF and Betamax. Its gonna be funny as hell to see this happening again but hey ya know what they saying: Dust, Dust never changes... Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 3230	Posted - 2015.01.27 06:07:00 - [148] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. -.-...................... Serious? I've played this game to long... I was there the very first Hour PC launched and we went fro district grabs,,, When there was hundreds of PC corporations going to bat. When an entire alliance was based around Australian time zones... Nyain san was sought out by alliance not because of their gun game or elite player status... Though they have a few.. But because of their timezone that they are active.... Corporations that can hold strong turn outs in American timezones.. Then corporations in European zones... Then corporations in Asian and Aussie time zones.. This is how we build PC alliances ever since the start... When alliance built completely around one time zone failed. Nyain san aren't special or unique in playing to their time zone... The fact that this post is so small picture scenario asking nyain san to play on our timezone or risk having the entire game nerfed because when they play mainly... Is just ridiculously absurd and small minded. Worst? Is these purposed changes will DO NOTHING... as far as theory crafting any changes for how the game actually works... In fact they will make it stronger for PC built alliances to further dominate PC.... This fix makes PERFECT sense if you knew very little practicality to how and why PC operates the way it does... And how players have built entire corporations and alliances around it... For YEARS. The problem with PC has nothing to do with the same players who have sought out a competitive game mode to play in DUST for nearly 2 years... Or that players operate on slightly different timezones... The problem is that there is no motivation or even ability for a player that isn't in the PC circle to become competitive in aspiration and join in.... PC has stagnated, suffocated and now is on it's death wease as the same few hundred players get cycled around the same handful of corporations possibly with a slight name change.... Until CCP builds or we seriously start looking on how to create upwward mobility in this games competitive landscape... Then PC is doomed to die and any competitiveness this game once enjoyed with it... None of these changes do that... or will even help the situation and or address the actual problem in anyway.
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 43	Posted - 2015.01.27 09:33:00 - [149] - Quote this is the most idiotic and kinda racist and nationalist thinking ive ever seen. if your not american and on american timers were gonna screw with your corp and players and make you suffer. i hope ccp gets sued over that stuff. i really do, i dont care if the majority player base is around american prime time hours, you shouldnt force others from different nations and timers to conform to yours, you single out people and push people away from the game completely, lets see how many ways you can be an idiot and try and ruin the game kain. their prime time is that timer so what, so they arent allowed to play after work with their friends and pc at their times, force them to alarm clock to play, cause you are to lazy to plan out in advance when an attack is gonna happen and use logistics love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 44	Posted - 2015.01.27 11:37:00 - [150] - Quote Propaganda X wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district. First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down. Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team. Agreed, and o wait their is only a handful of corps willing to do that. which is sad, why even have a corp with players that never get into pc? to look good in pubs? cantt hurt your precious stats. bottom line if a corps full 16 cant win a fair pc vs another full 16 and resort to ringing they need to get out of pc. cause all they will do is pick on weaker corps. reasons why sota, roman, are the biggest jokes in dust. when their corp flops they drob tags and just make a new corp with the same players. or different, no loyalty to the corp, to the players, to the ceo, meaning CRAP LEADERSHIP, just freaking plan ahead and strat out like a real war, they are forced to do that with eve. this is why half you cry babies should just biomanss, you dont even have a fulll understanding of what ccp has created. timers ect. love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.

Kain Spero Negative-Feedback 4441	Posted - 2015.01.27 12:59:00 - [151] - Quote Nick, you're just a little late to the party: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2587197#post2587197 As far as I'm concerned the issue has been resolved. Fixed timers seem to be off the table in CCP's PC plans as well as a reset. The PC community finally voiced their opinions rather than sitting quietly in a corner and there was a response. What the community does with Nyain San's districts after this timer shift is up to them, but you can't really be arguing timer hiding at this point. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 963	Posted - 2015.01.27 13:09:00 - [152] - Quote So. I agreed with everything you just said. Up until you just randomly lied and called me out. ** off nick. I was in STB for 11 months. Caught CEO stealing isk and other directors covering it up. Confronted them and got kicked. Joined DDB for 4 months because I had friends there. Totally helped them in pc and to get them more active. Brought 10 players with me. During that time I also provided obs to the entire renegade alliance. Fan fest hit and DDB was going Dormant. A director of DDB Kody Cole asked me to join ERA with him as they were active. He said others would follow. So I applied and Kane accepted. Kody changed his mind. For the next 3 months while in ERA I used my isk resources and players to fight with and for DDB. Not ever against them. Also during that time in ERA I even got STB back into PC and defended their districts. Wow. Such a flopper.wow look at my corp hopping and disloyalty. Went away on a fishing trip and Espeon tried to seize power. He took 10 out of 60 active players. Didn't hurt much he got the **** players. We decided ERA smelled to much like Kane and wanted to have nothing to do with him. Was perfect opportunity to start and build our own corp. 5 months ago we created Murphys Law. In a short 5 months we have already accomplished more then corps who started day one. If you're gonna talk trash get your story straight. I am loyal to my team and to my alliance. Can you and corp say the same? Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1437	Posted - 2015.01.27 13:39:00 - [153] - Quote Roman837 wrote: So. I agreed with everything you just said. Up until you just randomly lied and called me out. ** off nick. I was in STB for 11 months. Caught CEO stealing isk and other directors covering it up. Confronted them and got kicked. Joined DDB for 4 months because I had friends there. Totally helped them in pc and to get them more active. Brought 10 players with me. During that time I also provided obs to the entire renegade alliance. Fan fest hit and DDB was going Dormant. A director of DDB Kody Cole asked me to join ERA with him as they were active. He said others would follow. So I applied and Kane accepted. Kody changed his mind. For the next 3 months while in ERA I used my isk resources and players to fight with and for DDB. Not ever against them. Also during that time in ERA I even got STB back into PC and defended their districts. Wow. Such a flopper.wow look at my corp hopping and disloyalty. Went away on a fishing trip and Espeon tried to seize power. He took 10 out of 60 active players. Didn't hurt much he got the **** players. We decided ERA smelled to much like Kane and wanted to have nothing to do with him. Was perfect opportunity to start and build our own corp. 5 months ago we created Murphys Law. In a short 5 months we have already accomplished more then corps who started day one. If you're gonna talk trash get your story straight. I am loyal to my team and to my alliance. Can you and corp say the same? I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. I've listened to PC's the past 3-4 days you guys have been having against OH and you not have changed your strategy not one time. Every single match it is the same ole same. Obviously what you are attempting to do is not working, you don't beat them. Blame it on people not listening, people not doing this, etc, etc, etc. Fact is, it is you. Hard truth you don't want to hear, I know man. It hurts when it is told like that. I don't dislike you Roman. I've actually grown somewhat fond of you. You're not a bad guy but I don't think you are a real leader. Yes you've built corps. But you just picked up the remaining pieces and rebuilt. Not did anything from scratch. You need an FC or at least listen to your players somewhat and try something different. Now don't get all pissy at me and tell me to do it. I'm not capable. Been away from the game to long. But you have some talent in your group surely. Unless you've just surrounded yourself with lazy in-game people. That is for you to decide. Maybe you need another fishing trip. My last relationship was likes Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 963	Posted - 2015.01.27 14:14:00 - [154] - Quote Oh Bigole. You mad I substituted you? You are correct. I usually use same tactics with minor variations. The initial plan in a pc. Must be well known. Doctrine is doctrine. You make small specific changes based on the team you are playing. The match you listened to yesterday. 8 of the players didn't have mics to talk. 2 didn't speak English and one of the most important players in that match who is Ari...had a broke mic. You listened to a bad match. After the initial deployment...it's all about improvisation. All about making a decision and going with it. Being confident. An fc makes a call. The people on the ground respond. If it's unsuccessful the fc needs their input so he can change that. This current team we are facing. Which has been easily besting everyone...but our mixed team. Is good. Hats off to them. The strategy they are using I may not like. But it is working. I can tell you their exact plan. Deploy 3 tanks and 2 Ads. Get cat walk or something over looking an objective. Camp it with 3 players. Their tanks are used to keep our ads down. They then spam their ads to distract our players....then send in 2 ninja hackers. They. They Abandon the letter to be left by the roof too campers. That's it. No fighting. Is it working. Ya for the most part. It's more of a huge annoyance. Wanna know why? Because our team is built on slayers. They don't listen when you tell them to stay on an objective that it's going to be a ninja hacker coming. They care about kills. That is hard to control. I can say it a 1000 times. But if they chose not to listen what so I do. Bench them? To point out. We are having great matches vs them. Our brawn vs their sleek movements. They are not out killing us. But dam are they dedicated to ninja hacks. It is one thing to comment from listening on the outside. It's another to be in it and see it. Calling me the worst fc ever..common now. More people are likely to believe that SoTas next corp will be a success. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1439	Posted - 2015.01.27 14:22:00 - [155] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Oh Bigole. You mad I substituted you? You are correct. I usually use same tactics with minor variations. The initial plan in a pc. Must be well known. Doctrine is doctrine. You make small specific changes based on the team you are playing. The match you listened to yesterday. 8 of the players didn't have mics to talk. 2 didn't speak English and one of the most important players in that match who is Ari...had a broke mic. You listened to a bad match. After the initial deployment...it's all about improvisation. All about making a decision and going with it. Being confident. An fc makes a call. The people on the ground respond. If it's unsuccessful the fc needs their input so he can change that. This current team we are facing. Which has been easily besting everyone...but our mixed team. Is good. Hats off to them. The strategy they are using I may not like. But it is working. I can tell you their exact plan. Deploy 3 tanks and 2 Ads. Get cat walk or something over looking an objective. Camp it with 3 players. Their tanks are used to keep our ads down. They then spam their ads to distract our players....then send in 2 ninja hackers. They. They Abandon the letter to be left by the roof too campers. That's it. No fighting. Is it working. Ya for the most part. It's more of a huge annoyance. Wanna know why? Because our team is built on slayers. They don't listen when you tell them to stay on an objective that it's going to be a ninja hacker coming. They care about kills. That is hard to control. I can say it a 1000 times. But if they chose not to listen what so I do. Bench them? To point out. We are having great matches vs them. Our brawn vs their sleek movements. They are not out killing us. But dam are they dedicated to ninja hacks. It is one thing to comment from listening on the outside. It's another to be in it and see it. Calling me the worst fc ever..common now. More people are likely to believe that SoTas next corp will be a success. Roman, please...mad because you subbed me, hell no. I am bigger than that. Surely you don't believe that yourself. Remember, the sub was Ari, not like it was a scrub..lol You have had success as a FC before with better players. You don't have the better players now and it shows. I knew you would be offended but it is what it is. Also, listening to it tells the ENTIRE story. I just said you've not tried anything different, not one, single thing. Same strategy every one I listened to. I also knew you would flip it around to pointing fingers at them not following your direction. I said that in the OP. What I am telling you is, try something different. Why would they need to change what they are doing? It is obviously working. My last relationship was likes Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1439	Posted - 2015.01.27 14:24:00 - [156] - Quote A good leader doesn't make excuses, he finds a way to solve the problems. Want me to go through your response and count your excuses? My last relationship was likes Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 964	Posted - 2015.01.27 14:46:00 - [157] - Quote Just lol is my reply. Anyways. Since everyone is reading this may as well use it as good advertising. Go check out the post ccp just made. The new patch is sooner then we thought Feb 3rd. Some excellent changes. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1439	Posted - 2015.01.27 14:49:00 - [158] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Just lol is my reply. Anyways. Since everyone is reading this may as well use it as good advertising. Go check out the post ccp just made. The new patch is sooner then we thought Feb 3rd. Some excellent changes. Last thing, you can make excuses and hold others accountable only after you can hold yourself accountable. I still like you Roman. Can I apply and be accepted? lol My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
tastzlike chicken ROGUE SPADES 289	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:02:00 - [159] - Quote As has been pointed out by a few people: PC needs to be reworked from the beginning. There is ZERO incentive to give a ** about PC except for epeen stroking and "goodfights"; Both of which could be preserved by an arena mode or a cleaner version of that 1st iteration we had with the contract fights. It would give corps something to do while PC is fixed in a meaningful way. I love the whole concept of PC and benefits from district ownership --but the system needs to be reworked from the beginning (and IMO should include a vibrant list of things you can do with a district --PvE, manufacturing, build infrastructure that give the district owning corp discounts on certain weapons, modules, whatever.... make the districts more valuable to a broader base of players in the PC corp). Anything other than a re-work amounts to the proverbial "rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic" type activity. No new features? No resources for PvE? Fine, give us back a contract mode and let's see some high stakes battles worthy of all the forum warrioring... Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.**
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1078	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:09:00 - [160] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1439	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:21:00 - [161] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol Roman has a decent start up plan. His movements sound late and they are the same every time. He's being reactive instead of proactive. Kujo would have already countered that and had them on a new game plan lol My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1079	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:26:00 - [162] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol The scary part is that I legitimately don't put this past you. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1439	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:28:00 - [163] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol The scary part is that I legitimately don't put this past you. Remember Leither, I've seen your high school photo. You look very femdon lol Want to squad up tonight and talk squad movements to me baby? My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Leither Yiltron Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1079	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:45:00 - [164] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol The scary part is that I legitimately don't put this past you. Remember Leither, I've seen your high school photo. You look very femdon lol Want to squad up tonight and talk squad movements to me baby? Thor's accusation earlier in this thread was moderately accurate. I don't have a PS3 set up at the moment. Long term roadmap by Aeon Amadi Have a pony
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1439	Posted - 2015.01.27 15:49:00 - [165] - Quote No PS3 setup? Ouch!! My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5911	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:11:00 - [166] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol Roman has a decent start up plan. His movements sound late and they are the same every time. He's being reactive instead of proactive. Kujo would have already countered that and had them on a new game plan lol lol @ you thinking you know something. Tell us more of what you know about dust while always getting benched. Plenty of time for you to read up on it xD n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4456	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:32:00 - [167] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol Roman has a decent start up plan. His movements sound late and they are the same every time. He's being reactive instead of proactive. Kujo would have already countered that and had them on a new game plan lol Kujo... The guy who accuses others of something behind their back but won't talk to them about it... Cubs is 100x better. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1442	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:38:00 - [168] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol Roman has a decent start up plan. His movements sound late and they are the same every time. He's being reactive instead of proactive. Kujo would have already countered that and had them on a new game plan lol lol @ you thinking you know something. Tell us more of what you know about dust while always getting benched. Plenty of time for you to read up on it xD I asked to play because they were missing one. Missing piece showed up, I'm out. I don't have to read up on the topic you pretended to know something about. You are the one who needs to provide some proof to his post. I'm not the one who made **** up to try and have something to say. Better yet, just keep ignoring it so I can keep laughing at you. lol I'll start on you in Skype shortly. See ya in bit boy. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1442	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:39:00 - [169] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol Roman has a decent start up plan. His movements sound late and they are the same every time. He's being reactive instead of proactive. Kujo would have already countered that and had them on a new game plan lol Kujo... The guy who accuses others of something behind their back but won't talk to them about it... Cubs is 100x better. You hold a personal grudge. Your assessment is tainted. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5914	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:39:00 - [170] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I can say this Roman; you are the worst FC I have ever heard. Now here I am disappointed. I thought for sure nobody could possibly upset me for lowest FC in your estimation. Well, you were not a bad FC per-say. Your voice made it hard for me to not keep touching myself in battle. BIG difference. lol Roman has a decent start up plan. His movements sound late and they are the same every time. He's being reactive instead of proactive. Kujo would have already countered that and had them on a new game plan lol lol @ you thinking you know something. Tell us more of what you know about dust while always getting benched. Plenty of time for you to read up on it xD I asked to play because they were missing one. Missing piece showed up, I'm out. I don't have to read up on the topic you pretended to know something about. You are the one who needs to provide some proof to his post. I'm not the one who made **** up to try and have something to say. Better yet, just keep ignoring it so I can keep laughing at you. lol I'll start on you in Skype shortly. See ya in bit boy. lol @ continuing to think you know something. and lol @ you being unable to use google. lol @ you all day long. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1442	Posted - 2015.01.27 17:42:00 - [171] - Quote Laugh while you post the proof then I'll be quiet about it. Until then, it never happened. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5914	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:18:00 - [172] - Quote lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 381	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:33:00 - [173] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What's that SoTa? SoTa getting pwnd =D "Hi, my name is Rampage."
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5915	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:38:00 - [174] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What's that SoTa? SoTa getting pwnd =D Oh hey - I'm in a PC match! Where were you? Jjust watching from the side-lines. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:39:00 - [175] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What is this Google you speak of? Demonstrate it for me one time. I catch on quick. Show me where in WW2 that America was going to nuke Russia but their subs kept us at bay and we did not have a refueling spot close enough. Just this one time sugar, please! My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:40:00 - [176] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What's that SoTa? SoTa getting pwnd =D lol My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:41:00 - [177] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What's that SoTa? SoTa getting pwnd =D Oh hey - I'm in a PC match! Where were you? Jjust watching from the side-lines. Looks like whataguy was in PC too. Dropping elbows on fools lol My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5916	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:42:00 - [178] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What's that SoTa? SoTa getting pwnd =D Oh hey - I'm in a PC match! Where were you? Jjust watching from the side-lines. Looks like whataguy was in PC too. Dropping elbows on fools lol I messed up and wrote it wrong - edited it, lol. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 18:44:00 - [179] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lol @ bigole unable to use google. must suck to be stupid and need someone else to fill in the blanks for you. What's that SoTa? SoTa getting pwnd =D Oh hey - I'm in a PC match! Where were you? Jjust watching from the side-lines. Looks like whataguy was in PC too. Dropping elbows on fools lol I messed up and wrote it wrong - edited it, lol. See, it's not that hard Sota to admit you made a mistake. Just say you made one about the nuke and we move on. No issue. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5916	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:01:00 - [180] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: See, it's not that hard Sota to admit you made a mistake. Just say you made one about the nuke and we move on. No issue. lol @ still thinking you know something. I'll even do you a favor, baltic sea. Not that you even know what that is, you'll need google for that too. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:08:00 - [181] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: See, it's not that hard Sota to admit you made a mistake. Just say you made one about the nuke and we move on. No issue. lol @ still thinking you know something. I'll even do you a favor, baltic sea. Not that you even know what that is, you'll need google for that too. Keep ignoring it.....this is fun My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:22:00 - [182] - Quote Tell you what I will do Sota. Let me clarify your comment and then I will shoot holes in it. Your comment was, Quote: We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. This was in response to, Quote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. Basically, you are saying the only reason we didn't bomb Russia during WW2 was because of the reason stated, correct? Want to make sure all your information is correct and in its entirety before I start. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5916	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:54:00 - [183] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Tell you what I will do Sota. Let me clarify your comment and then I will shoot holes in it. Your comment was, Quote: We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. This was in response to, Quote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. Basically, you are saying the only reason we didn't bomb Russia during WW2 was because of the reason stated, correct? Want to make sure all your information is correct and in its entirety before I start. again, you should try google. We even trained nuclear bombers in europe after giving it a check myself. silly bigole. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1446	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:02:00 - [184] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Tell you what I will do Sota. Let me clarify your comment and then I will shoot holes in it. Your comment was, Quote: We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. This was in response to, Quote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. Basically, you are saying the only reason we didn't bomb Russia during WW2 was because of the reason stated, correct? Want to make sure all your information is correct and in its entirety before I start. again, you should try google. We even trained nuclear bombers in europe after giving it a check myself. silly bigole. Quit ignoring the questions Sota. Read the above. You are so afraid that it is funny. If there is anything about us bombing Russia during WW2 I will report it. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 973	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:38:00 - [185] - Quote grabs popcorn and sits silently listening to Americans try to give history lessons accurately Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 973	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:43:00 - [186] - Quote Damit. I'm to impatient. There was never a point in time during World War 2 that nuclear bombs were ever going to be in use. Reason being...they didn't exist yet. The atomic bomb and hydrogen bomb were the 2 bombs being invented and tested at the time. SoTa. I think you are mixing your dates and events. The only time in a history haa a nuclear war almost occurred. And yes it between the United States and Russia. But it was well after World War 2. It was the Cuban missile crisis. The cold war was the name of that war. It was a time of spy vs spy. The Russians funded the Vietnam War against the USA and the USA funded the war in Afghanistan vs the states. Both costs untold millions in immediate costs...and even more in on going medical costs. Was dark times. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5916	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:59:00 - [187] - Quote The heck are you talking about. If we could of - we would of. It was simply not going to happen. We couldn't even safely send in scouts, how were we going to get close enough to nuke? Do you guys know anything of the navel situations in the northern and southern areas of russia? Allied forces saw very little success and had to blockade off entire areas, this effected Russia wether or not if they were involved, because Germany involved them. Our subs and carriers couldn't get in - so we couldn't nuke. Japan we could - so we did. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1581	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:00:00 - [188] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: We couldn't even safely send in scouts, how were we going to get close enough to nuke?. Drop the RE's and grab a cloak. Noob.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 974	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:32:00 - [189] - Quote Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1447	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:00:00 - [190] - Quote been my point all along lol...this guy My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1447	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:11:00 - [191] - Quote The war in Europe was over before the bombs were dropped on Japan. Germany and Russia started out as homies until the entire Poland fiasco. America provided support for Britian/France/Allies UNTIL "the day that will live in empathy", December 7, 1941. Germany had been working on rocket systems, Werner Von Braun headed that department. I know this because everything around where I am from is named after him. Can't turn a corner without seeing Von Braun this, Von Braun that. He snuck out of Germany some how or another and helped the Americans on their rocketry. The atomic bomb was so secret that the Vice President didn't even know about until he became President. In May of 1945 some scientists wanted Japan to see first hand what a detonation looked like but that was cancelled. I will say this; there was a plan by the British to defend themselves against the Soviets with the help of the Americans but an attack never came after WW2. But atomic bombs during WW2 on Russia, never. There was nothing to gain by it. You had a good story Sota, sort of. Minus the parts that were unfucking true kind of killed it though. Roman, I do know history and what I don't know I can find. I was just egging Sota on and watching him back peddle from the subject for a few days. How dare you say I didn't lol Him on the other hand, already proven. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 103	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:16:00 - [192] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras Uh, sorry Roman, but the Japanese would beg to differ with you on nukes in WWII. Cases in point being Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Also, the V2's raining down on London were rocket powered, courtesy of Werner von Braun (later a darling of the American space program).
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 103	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:19:00 - [193] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: The war in Europe was over before the bombs were dropped on Japan. Germany and Russia started out as homies until the entire Poland fiasco. America provided support for Britian/France/Allies UNTIL "the day that will live in empathy", December 7, 1941. Germany had been working on rocket systems, Werner Von Braun headed that department. I know this because everything around where I am from is named after him. Can't turn a corner without seeing Von Braun this, Von Braun that. He snuck out of Germany some how or another and helped the Americans on their rocketry. The atomic bomb was so secret that the Vice President didn't even know about until he became President. In May of 1945 some scientists wanted Japan to see first hand what a detonation looked like but that was cancelled. I will say this; there was a plan by the British to defend themselves against the Soviets with the help of the Americans but an attack never came after WW2. But atomic bombs during WW2 on Russia, never. There was nothing to gain by it. You had a good story Sota, sort of. Minus the parts that were unfucking true kind of killed it though. Roman, I do know history and what I don't know I can find. I was just egging Sota on and watching him back peddle from the subject for a few days. How dare you say I didn't lol Him on the other hand, already proven. Believe FDR said "infamy".
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1451	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:23:00 - [194] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: bigolenuts wrote: The war in Europe was over before the bombs were dropped on Japan. Germany and Russia started out as homies until the entire Poland fiasco. America provided support for Britian/France/Allies UNTIL "the day that will live in empathy", December 7, 1941. Germany had been working on rocket systems, Werner Von Braun headed that department. I know this because everything around where I am from is named after him. Can't turn a corner without seeing Von Braun this, Von Braun that. He snuck out of Germany some how or another and helped the Americans on their rocketry. The atomic bomb was so secret that the Vice President didn't even know about until he became President. In May of 1945 some scientists wanted Japan to see first hand what a detonation looked like but that was cancelled. I will say this; there was a plan by the British to defend themselves against the Soviets with the help of the Americans but an attack never came after WW2. But atomic bombs during WW2 on Russia, never. There was nothing to gain by it. You had a good story Sota, sort of. Minus the parts that were unfucking true kind of killed it though. Roman, I do know history and what I don't know I can find. I was just egging Sota on and watching him back peddle from the subject for a few days. How dare you say I didn't lol Him on the other hand, already proven. Believe FDR said "infamy". Correct....we were not giving them empathy lol My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 975	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:35:00 - [195] - Quote Those were not nuclear dam weapons. Those were atomic bombs. And hydrogen bombs. Nuclear is much much worse. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Roman837 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 975	Posted - 2015.01.27 23:37:00 - [196] - Quote But. The argument about the allies being after Russia is false. If it wasn't for Russia we would not have won that war. Germany made a huge error in awaking the Bear. It costs them epics amount of clones and isk to fight that war. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 103	Posted - 2015.01.28 00:52:00 - [197] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Those were not nuclear dam weapons. Those were atomic bombs. And hydrogen bombs. Nuclear is much much worse. Well, granted I'm not a nuclear engineer, just a chemical one, but I can read discernibly, and this seems legit to me (although Wikipedia may never be as trusted as the Encyclopaedia Brittannica): Wikipedia wrote: A nuclear weapon is an explosive device that derives its destructive force from nuclear reactions, either fission or a combination of fission and fusion. Both reactions release vast quantities of energy from relatively small amounts of matter. The first fission ("atomic") bomb test released the same amount of energy as approximately 20,000 tons of TNT. The first thermonuclear ("hydrogen") bomb test released the same amount of energy as approximately 10,000,000 tons of TNT. As of 2014, only two nuclear weapons have been used in the course of warfare, both times by the United States near the end of World War II. On 6 August 1945, a uranium gun-type fission bomb code-named "Little Boy" was detonated over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Three days later, on 9 August, a plutonium implosion-type fission bomb code-named "Fat Man" was exploded over the Japanese city of Nagasaki. These two bombings resulted in the deaths of approximately 200,000 civilians and military personnel from acute injuries sustained from the explosions. - Wikipedia It would seem that atomic or nuclear are both labels for a fission device, and so this argument would seem to be more semantics than anything else. As to whether or not one is "much much worse", I would think that is more a function of yield. Then again, I'm just a chemical engineer, not a nuclear engineer. Incidentally, if you haven't read "In Harm's Way", an account of the USS Indianapolis, which effectively delivered "Little Boy" to Tinian Island, I highly recommend it.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1454	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:56:00 - [198] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Those were not nuclear dam weapons. Those were atomic bombs. And hydrogen bombs. Nuclear is much much worse. I say nuclear as all inclusive. I apologize for threatening your degree in nuclear studies. Shall I go back and correct posting? My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1454	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:58:00 - [199] - Quote Sota will be back shortly. He has taken an anime time machine back to 1931 so he can be right. Please stand by. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4465	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:47:00 - [200] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras The fat man and little boy was used mate. Ever here of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Those were nukes Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4468	Posted - 2015.01.28 03:52:00 - [201] - Quote Nuclear weapons are atomic bombs and hydrogen bombs. They are called nuclear weapons because the both have something to do with the nucleus of an atom. A hydrogen bomb uses nuclear fusion (smashing atoms together) and an atomic bomb uses nuclear fission (ripping atoms apart). Hydrogen bombs are much more powerful than atomic bombs though. Here is my stupidity for those who care. http://youtu.be/4rElV_w_DPQ Incase if anyone cares. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 46	Posted - 2015.01.28 07:59:00 - [202] - Quote Roman837 wrote: So. I agreed with everything you just said. Up until you just randomly lied and called me out. ** off nick. I was in STB for 11 months. Caught CEO stealing isk and other directors covering it up. Confronted them and got kicked. Joined DDB for 4 months because I had friends there. Totally helped them in pc and to get them more active. Brought 10 players with me. During that time I also provided obs to the entire renegade alliance. Fan fest hit and DDB was going Dormant. A director of DDB Kody Cole asked me to join ERA with him as they were active. He said others would follow. So I applied and Kane accepted. Kody changed his mind. For the next 3 months while in ERA I used my isk resources and players to fight with and for DDB. Not ever against them. Also during that time in ERA I even got STB back into PC and defended their districts. Wow. Such a flopper.wow look at my corp hopping and disloyalty. Went away on a fishing trip and Espeon tried to seize power. He took 10 out of 60 active players. Didn't hurt much he got the **** players. We decided ERA smelled to much like Kane and wanted to have nothing to do with him. Was perfect opportunity to start and build our own corp. 5 months ago we created Murphys Law. In a short 5 months we have already accomplished more then corps who started day one. If you're gonna talk trash get your story straight. I am loyal to my team and to my alliance. Can you and corp say the same? look at cap aqc players corp history, even while dormant people stuck through it. didnt move on, just stayed. have many still active just no pcs. why, cause that is loyalty, not following friends every where they go, like molon we have actually built something lasting, not something that will fall apart if kicked out of pc. thats what makes you different, you have said it yourself many of times, YOU DONT BELIEVE in your own corp members to beat the best out there or even try, that you will ring out the best players you can. im sorry i wouldnt follow a ceo like that. that has no faith in the majority of his corp memebrs only a hand full.sad. worse part is you say this stuff about your own memebrs never being in a tough pc and they still follow you even though your saying they arent good enough. love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1455	Posted - 2015.01.28 11:06:00 - [203] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Roman837 wrote: Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras The fat man and little boy was used mate. Ever hear of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Those were nukes The war was basically over by the time they were used though. From what I've read the Allies carpet bombed Japan for months softening them up for a land invasion and we purposely did not hit those two cities plus another one so the full effect of the bomb could be analyzed. Japan had agreed to surrender before either bomb was dropped but not to the full concessions we were demanding. So, the rest is history. Nagasaki was a secondary target as well and although a bigger bomb was used we missed the target by 800 meters and the mountains absorbed most of the effect. I also read that there were over 100 people that had been in both cities and experienced both blasts. Imagine that luck lol..They have some Japanese word/phrase for them. I can go find it again if interested. My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4493	Posted - 2015.01.29 19:59:00 - [204] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Roman837 wrote: Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras The fat man and little boy was used mate. Ever hear of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Those were nukes The war was basically over by the time they were used though. From what I've read the Allies carpet bombed Japan for months softening them up for a land invasion and we purposely did not hit those two cities plus another one so the full effect of the bomb could be analyzed. Japan had agreed to surrender before either bomb was dropped but not to the full concessions we were demanding. So, the rest is history. Nagasaki was a secondary target as well and although a bigger bomb was used we missed the target by 800 meters and the mountains absorbed most of the effect. I also read that there were over 100 people that had been in both cities and experienced both blasts. Imagine that luck lol..They have some Japanese word/phrase for them. I can go find it again if interested. If you're bored you can look up Russia wants America punished for war crimes in ww2.. Isn't Stalin responsible for like 40m deaths? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
THE DRiZZLE AQUA TEEN Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 218	Posted - 2015.01.30 21:40:00 - [205] - Quote Zzzzzz Keeping The Dream Alive.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 687	Posted - 2015.01.31 01:14:00 - [206] - Quote Nyain still has those districts? LOL. Y'all only defend them because you get paid to ring whenever those districts get attacked. It's a joke they have any land at all, they don't even play. Only loyal to the republic. PSN: TerrifiedPotato I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1566	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:02:00 - [207] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. Bumped to show Sota's lack of intelligence and possibly the most ignorant comment made in the War Room this year. A top nomination and it is only 1/31/2015 I used to laugh at Grandpa when he'd go fishing.But I wouldn't be laughing that evening when he'd come back with a whore
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5937	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:07:00 - [208] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. Bumped to show Sota's lack of intelligence and possibly the most ignorant comment made in the War Room this year. A top nomination and it is only 1/31/2015 lol, you really need to learn you naval history. But thanks for the bump <3 n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1566	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:22:00 - [209] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. Bumped to show Sota's lack of intelligence and possibly the most ignorant comment made in the War Room this year. A top nomination and it is only 1/31/2015 lol, you really need to learn you naval history. But thanks for the bump <3 LOL, ok Mr. Historian. You have been asked time and time again to provide the proof to support your claim. Nothing yet. It's easier to say, "I'm not going to help you learn how to use Google" than actually just get the proof. LOL...here you go Sota... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwkZrj2VT4 Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5938	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:48:00 - [210] - Quote Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims. It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. Let's that one slide by him But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1567	Posted - 2015.01.31 16:55:00 - [211] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims. It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. Let's that one slide by him But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. The boats, plane and all that are understood..GOTCHA on that part.. The part I don't get is why they were wanting to bomb them during WW2 and where is it written with the word you speak? Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5939	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:02:00 - [212] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims. It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. Let's that one slide by him But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. The boats, plane and all that are understood..GOTCHA on that part.. The part I don't get is why they were wanting to bomb them during WW2 and where is it written with the word you speak? Again, quote where I said they wanted. All America has ever tried to do is gain security. We made several attempts to enter both the Baltic Sea and southern seas of Russia, but we only saw success in the Mediterranean seas. Carriers generally were in area's they could be resupplied and acted as mobile command center - if america was going to drop an H-Bomb on anyone, it was going to be from a Carrier. But we couldn't do much with U-boats blowing everything up, so there was no hope to H-Bomb russia Can't nuke Europe for obvious reasons and add in the massive size of russia and the fuel required by the plane to get back - it wasn't happening. And if you check reports, we did train pilots to drop H-Bombs in europe, we just never did anything with 'em. Found this info just recently on google n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:10:00 - [213] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims. It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. Let's that one slide by him But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. The boats, plane and all that are understood..GOTCHA on that part.. The part I don't get is why they were wanting to bomb them during WW2 and where is it written with the word you speak? Again, quote where I said they wanted. All America has ever tried to do is gain security. We made several attempts to enter both the Baltic Sea and southern seas of Russia, but we only saw success in the Mediterranean seas. Carriers generally were in area's they could be resupplied and acted as mobile command center - if america was going to drop an H-Bomb on anyone, it was going to be from a Carrier. But we couldn't do much with U-boats blowing everything up, so there was no hope to H-Bomb russia Can't nuke Europe for obvious reasons and add in the massive size of russia and the fuel required by the plane to get back - it wasn't happening. And if you check reports, we did train pilots to drop H-Bombs in europe, we just never did anything with 'em. Found this info just recently on google So now you say we dropped the bomb from a plane which took off from a carrier? Really? Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5939	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:10:00 - [214] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims. It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. Let's that one slide by him But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. The boats, plane and all that are understood..GOTCHA on that part.. The part I don't get is why they were wanting to bomb them during WW2 and where is it written with the word you speak? Again, quote where I said they wanted. All America has ever tried to do is gain security. We made several attempts to enter both the Baltic Sea and southern seas of Russia, but we only saw success in the Mediterranean seas. Carriers generally were in area's they could be resupplied and acted as mobile command center - if america was going to drop an H-Bomb on anyone, it was going to be from a Carrier. But we couldn't do much with U-boats blowing everything up, so there was no hope to H-Bomb russia Can't nuke Europe for obvious reasons and add in the massive size of russia and the fuel required by the plane to get back - it wasn't happening. And if you check reports, we did train pilots to drop H-Bombs in europe, we just never did anything with 'em. Found this info just recently on google So now you say we dropped the bomb from a plane which took off from a carrier? Really? Carrier would be required. There's no fuel station nearby Russia like there is with Japan. Japan faced similar issues when they engaged us from so far away with no islands nearby to hop around on or set up camp. Again, you really don't know anything. But thanks for the refresher course of pointless topics. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:11:00 - [215] - Quote Quote: We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. that says it right there Sota.."everytime we got close enough to send one"...Why would be worried about how close we were to send one if they didn't WANT to? Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5939	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:17:00 - [216] - Quote Poor bigole - 3 times now I've tried to explain, he still doesn't get it. I pray this level of stupid isn't contagious. Looks at Rampage **** IT IS!~~ RUUUUN!~~~ BigOle is after our brains~! Sending in a ticket to rename bigole - BigolePussySak Perfect fit for a guy in a heavy suit who runs from assault suits, lol. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:20:00 - [217] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Poor bigole - 3 times now I've tried to explain, he still doesn't get it. I pray this level of stupid isn't contagious. Looks at Rampage **** IT IS!~~ RUUUUN!~~~ BigOle is after our brains~! Sending in a ticket to rename bigole - BigolePussySak Perfect fit for a guy in a heavy suit who runs from assault suits, lol. LOL...you have proved nothing really Sota...I mean, you are typing at least.... Lets talk about your job since we talked about my lack of game skills. Where you working these days? Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5940	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:21:00 - [218] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Poor bigole - 3 times now I've tried to explain, he still doesn't get it. I pray this level of stupid isn't contagious. Looks at Rampage **** IT IS!~~ RUUUUN!~~~ BigOle is after our brains~! Sending in a ticket to rename bigole - BigolePussySak Perfect fit for a guy in a heavy suit who runs from assault suits, lol. LOL...you have proved nothing really Sota...I mean, you are typing at least.... Lets talk about your job since we talked about my lack of game skills. Where you working these days? lol proof is for conversations I care for - you're just another scrub on the forums whose entertaining me for a bit. This is the only thing you're really good for - you should thank me for putting you to use <3 n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:23:00 - [219] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Poor bigole - 3 times now I've tried to explain, he still doesn't get it. I pray this level of stupid isn't contagious. Looks at Rampage **** IT IS!~~ RUUUUN!~~~ BigOle is after our brains~! Sending in a ticket to rename bigole - BigolePussySak Perfect fit for a guy in a heavy suit who runs from assault suits, lol. LOL...you have proved nothing really Sota...I mean, you are typing at least.... Lets talk about your job since we talked about my lack of game skills. Where you working these days? lol proof is for conversations I care for - you're just another scrub on the forums whose entertaining me for a bit. This is the only thing you're really good for - you should thank me for putting you to use <3 Turn it, twist it, do whatever you please. You're still an idiot Sota... What year did all this go down that you speak of? Just curious Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5940	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:24:00 - [220] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Poor bigole - 3 times now I've tried to explain, he still doesn't get it. I pray this level of stupid isn't contagious. Looks at Rampage **** IT IS!~~ RUUUUN!~~~ BigOle is after our brains~! Sending in a ticket to rename bigole - BigolePussySak Perfect fit for a guy in a heavy suit who runs from assault suits, lol. LOL...you have proved nothing really Sota...I mean, you are typing at least.... Lets talk about your job since we talked about my lack of game skills. Where you working these days? lol proof is for conversations I care for - you're just another scrub on the forums whose entertaining me for a bit. This is the only thing you're really good for - you should thank me for putting you to use <3 Turn it, twist it, do whatever you please. You're still an idiot Sota... What year did all this go down that you speak of? Just curious Calls me an idiot - while offering me PSN cards. GG Thanks for the memories. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:28:00 - [221] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims. It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. Let's that one slide by him But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. The boats, plane and all that are understood..GOTCHA on that part.. The part I don't get is why they were wanting to bomb them during WW2 and where is it written with the word you speak? Again, quote where I said they wanted. All America has ever tried to do is gain security. We made several attempts to enter both the Baltic Sea and southern seas of Russia, but we only saw success in the Mediterranean seas. Carriers generally were in area's they could be resupplied and acted as mobile command center - if america was going to drop an H-Bomb on anyone, it was going to be from a Carrier. But we couldn't do much with U-boats blowing everything up, so there was no hope to H-Bomb russia Can't nuke Europe for obvious reasons and add in the massive size of russia and the fuel required by the plane to get back - it wasn't happening. And if you check reports, we did train pilots to drop H-Bombs in europe, we just never did anything with 'em. Found this info just recently on google So now you say we dropped the bomb from a plane which took off from a carrier? Really? Carrier would be required. There's no fuel station nearby Russia like there is with Japan. Japan faced similar issues when they engaged us from so far away with no islands nearby to hop around on or set up camp. Again, you really don't know anything. But thanks for the refresher course of pointless topics. So, a carrier would be required to drop the bombs on Japan? I beg to differ. They took off from North Field, Tinian according to this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5940	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:30:00 - [222] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Carrier would be required. There's no fuel station nearby Russia like there is with Japan. Japan faced similar issues when they engaged us from so far away with no islands nearby to hop around on or set up camp. Again, you really don't know anything. But thanks for the refresher course of pointless topics. So, a carrier would be required to drop the bombs on Japan? I beg to differ. They took off from North Field, Tinian according to this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki Ouch, you just owned yourself. I'll let you re-read and find out why. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:36:00 - [223] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Carrier would be required. There's no fuel station nearby Russia like there is with Japan. Japan faced similar issues when they engaged us from so far away with no islands nearby to hop around on or set up camp. Again, you really don't know anything. But thanks for the refresher course of pointless topics. So, a carrier would be required to drop the bombs on Japan? I beg to differ. They took off from North Field, Tinian according to this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki Ouch, you just owned yourself. I'll let you re-read and find out why. Naaw, not owned...good try though.. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5940	Posted - 2015.01.31 17:58:00 - [224] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Carrier would be required. There's no fuel station nearby Russia like there is with Japan. Japan faced similar issues when they engaged us from so far away with no islands nearby to hop around on or set up camp. Again, you really don't know anything. But thanks for the refresher course of pointless topics. So, a carrier would be required to drop the bombs on Japan? I beg to differ. They took off from North Field, Tinian according to this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki Ouch, you just owned yourself. I'll let you re-read and find out why. Naaw, not owned...good try though.. Why you hitting yourself? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1568	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:26:00 - [225] - Quote Didn't need to re-read anything. Hell, I didn't even read it the first time LOL.... I know there is nothing in there about America wanting to attack Russia during WW2 with atomic bombs...No need to clarify. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5941	Posted - 2015.01.31 18:27:00 - [226] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Didn't need to re-read anything. Hell, I didn't couldn't read it the first time LOL.... I know there is nothing in there about America wanting to attack Russia during WW2 with atomic bombs...No need to clarify. Fixed for accuracy. Continue your good work, peasant. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 231	Posted - 2015.02.01 01:38:00 - [227] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. Really.....do I really need to mention what Nyain San was able to do the last 3 to 4 times they been Blitzed... Lots have changed since the last blitz. But every time the community thinks it so so easy. When you Blitz you realize Nyain San does have. BatPhone after all... It's crazy but they have The Red Phone. They got to cuz every time. Somehow every one of those battles are full... Like if truth...you know it is The few times they win they had a **** ton of ringers ..they lose more often than not Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1573	Posted - 2015.02.01 10:49:00 - [228] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: Ghostt Shadoww wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't think the issue is the time but rather they're all set to 1 time for a reason, unless they became active recently they couldn't even have half a pc team at that time. Not like I care though dust has been dead to me for a long time now. Really.....do I really need to mention what Nyain San was able to do the last 3 to 4 times they been Blitzed... Lots have changed since the last blitz. But every time the community thinks it so so easy. When you Blitz you realize Nyain San does have. BatPhone after all... It's crazy but they have The Red Phone. They got to cuz every time. Somehow every one of those battles are full... Like if truth...you know it is The few times they win they had a **** ton of ringers ..they lose more often than not That is what Alliances are for...to help in a time of need. How does this always seem to over peoples heads? Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte


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