DUST Search - If you all don't Solve Nyain San CCP will do it for you.

Propaganda X wrote:

Kain Spero wrote:

For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so.

To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings.

CCP Rattati wrote:

Dear players,

we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones.

There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly.

Methods to reset, if we go that way

A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings
B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU
C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer
D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers
E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes.

I will add more.

Please discuss.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread

I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you.

To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves.

I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district.

First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down.

Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team.

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TRULY ELITE Titans of Phoenix 283	Posted - 2015.01.22 16:57:00 - [121] - Quote I don't see how a reset to PC is a bad thing, it means corps will have to earn things using their teams and not sit on districts that they've had for months which no one is willing to attack Born Amarr, Pure Minmatar. Assault, Commando, Logistics, Sentinel, Scout MK.0
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1376	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:20:00 - [122] - Quote TRULY ELITE wrote: I don't see how a reset to PC is a bad thing, it means corps will have to earn things using their teams and not sit on districts that they've had for months which no one is willing to attack There you go. Why are you not willing to attack it? Scared? I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1376	Posted - 2015.01.22 17:30:00 - [123] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: DJINN Rampage wrote: Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. umm, Sota, why would have the United States wanted to bomb Russia during WW2? Please explain this to me. I am lost and your vast knowledge is needed at this point. I just can't wrap my head around why we would want to nuke Russia. Furthermore, where did you get your facts that the subs were in the way AND we didn't have enough fuel stations? Just curious. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4403	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:10:00 - [124] - Quote For those of you upset with Kain understand this. This is not what he wants but he wanted to let us know that we have a choice before CCP does something. If we let CCP do it it'll probably fck everything up like normal. But if you guys would rather wait to see how it plays out then I don't blame you, that's what I'm doing. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders 3521	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:40:00 - [125] - Quote Lets blame Kane, because he did things that screwed you over... Regarding the russia/ww2 thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable [12:23:46 AM] Breakin Stuff: GODIN THAT IS HANDS DOWN THE STUPIDEST F*ING THING YOU HAVE EVER SAID
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1377	Posted - 2015.01.22 18:46:00 - [126] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Lets blame Kane, because he did things that screwed you over... Regarding the russia/ww2 thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable Delete this. He is talking about during WW2. This was after and NOT what Sota was referring to. Germany surrendered before we dropped the bomb on Japan. Do we really need to get into a history lesson lol Delete that. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1117	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:51:00 - [127] - Quote I think a PC reset would do you guys a lot of good. And you can laugh as The Worst Corp To Ever Hold More Land Than STB(which is NS of course) holds 0% from here on out.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5800	Posted - 2015.01.23 00:15:00 - [128] - Quote snipped - aint worth it. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:33:00 - [129] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4415	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:38:00 - [130] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5806	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:42:00 - [131] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Just ignore him. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Vlad Rostok SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 101	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:45:00 - [132] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Tried? Well, a non-aggression pact was signed. The two then proceeded to divide Poland between them.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:47:00 - [133] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 They had agreed to split Poland but this has nothing to do with 'Merica wanting to nuke Russia. **** stabbed the Ruskies in the back or some ** along those lines and it was on. So Sota, just post some information backing what you said and I will move along. I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:50:00 - [134] - Quote Vlad Rostok wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: snipped - aint worth it. Snipped my ass. I just would like to know when we were going to nuke Russia during WW2. I am pretty sure that they were on the same side as 'Merica. I could be wrong though lol I don't remember correctly but I think Russia tried to ally with Germany which upset the allies, this was before ww2 Tried? Well, a non-aggression pact was signed. The two then proceeded to divide Poland between them. And from the start of that agreement it seems like I read ****** began staging troops at the Russian border waiting on the opportunity to advance into the Motherland. I mean, it is all in the history books lol Even what Sota said, if true would be in the history books unless of course it was some random jibberish from a person who really had no idea that the Russians were on our side. Naaaah, that would never happen lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 566	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:51:00 - [135] - Quote Seems to me yall could do multiple strikes on the timer - you know wake up early/stay up late once, take some of the land, and set it to your own timer....force them to play on your timer to get it back....
Patrick57 Incorruptibles 9675	Posted - 2015.01.23 03:52:00 - [136] - Quote Ghostt Shadoww wrote: If you have a job a life. That's your problem. you heard ghostt, quit your jobs, quit having a life, then you can take their districts i fucking hate waffles
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1423	Posted - 2015.01.24 15:29:00 - [137] - Quote Been a couple of days now. Does this mean there is nothing written about America going to nuke Russia during WW2? lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Everything Dies Same Dung Different Year 1194	Posted - 2015.01.24 19:32:00 - [138] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Even what Sota said, if true would be in the history books unless of course it was some random jibberish from a person who really had no idea that the Russians were on our side. Naaaah, that would never happen lol Don't put too much trust in history/textbooks: http://www.cracked.com/article_21131_6-disturbing-things-i-learned-writing-your-textbooks.html Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1425	Posted - 2015.01.24 19:58:00 - [139] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Even what Sota said, if true would be in the history books unless of course it was some random jibberish from a person who really had no idea that the Russians were on our side. Naaaah, that would never happen lol Don't put too much trust in history/textbooks: http://www.cracked.com/article_21131_6-disturbing-things-i-learned-writing-your-textbooks.html i'll take my chances on that us bombing Russia and only failing due to their submarines and not having a jump off location as being untrue and unable to prove. Was dribble from a person who actually thinks/thought we were at war with Russia during WW2. I saw Romans boat. It was very majestic and had a golden glow around it as if it were spiritual.
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 770	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:22:00 - [140] - Quote Roman837 wrote: Only change needed...is add a plus or minus 3 ours to a district. So if somone sets their district to 1200...The attacker gets to pick if it's 0900 to 1500. Done and done. End of debate. Attacker should have an advantage of picking their best time within the defenders time zone. lol so corps can intentionally stack timers if you launch two attacks on a corp with 3 hour differentials? nah. LogicGäó

Viktor's Alt Negative-Impact Back and Forth 37	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:44:00 - [141] - Quote This thread has gotten so unbelievably stupid. ))<>(( Back and Forth 4EVA
Mr Machine Guns 1030	Posted - 2015.01.24 21:00:00 - [142] - Quote Viktor's Alt wrote: This thread has gotten so unbelievably stupid. Welcome to the war room
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5822	Posted - 2015.01.25 01:35:00 - [143] - Quote Bigole - since you seem so desperate, please go google the russian trade lines in the baltic seas and there importance to the german economy and supplies. Thanks. America never attempted to nuke russia - we attempted to get ships in there seas. And if you knew about our navy you'd see why the two are related. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Propaganda X Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2015.01.25 02:52:00 - [144] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district. First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down. Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5824	Posted - 2015.01.25 03:02:00 - [145] - Quote Propaganda X wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district. First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down. Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team. stfu no one cares what you have to say until you get off the alt to say it. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 762	Posted - 2015.01.25 03:11:00 - [146] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: stfu no one cares what you have to say until you get off the alt to say it. What baffles me is why people think that Nyain San is the only offender, or why they think that just because kane says something, that is makes it so. Does anyone honestly believe that if we make nyain changes their timers, that ratatati will say "oh there's nothing wrong here lets move on to something else." It's a laughable thought, that's basically saying "oh that guy shot this guy, but this guy didn't die... oh everything's fine then" GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 787	Posted - 2015.01.26 00:08:00 - [147] - Quote If all districts are about to be resetted (basically nobody owns the land) then the same thing will happend when PC started. get stright on after downtime and put your flag onto a district. You comming 1 hour late? Well sorry to hear that cause all districts have beeing grabbed while you had breakfast. Just remember what the Cronos alliance did with SI, GAC, WTF and Betamax. Its gonna be funny as hell to see this happening again but hey ya know what they saying: Dust, Dust never changes... Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 3230	Posted - 2015.01.27 06:07:00 - [148] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. -.-...................... Serious? I've played this game to long... I was there the very first Hour PC launched and we went fro district grabs,,, When there was hundreds of PC corporations going to bat. When an entire alliance was based around Australian time zones... Nyain san was sought out by alliance not because of their gun game or elite player status... Though they have a few.. But because of their timezone that they are active.... Corporations that can hold strong turn outs in American timezones.. Then corporations in European zones... Then corporations in Asian and Aussie time zones.. This is how we build PC alliances ever since the start... When alliance built completely around one time zone failed. Nyain san aren't special or unique in playing to their time zone... The fact that this post is so small picture scenario asking nyain san to play on our timezone or risk having the entire game nerfed because when they play mainly... Is just ridiculously absurd and small minded. Worst? Is these purposed changes will DO NOTHING... as far as theory crafting any changes for how the game actually works... In fact they will make it stronger for PC built alliances to further dominate PC.... This fix makes PERFECT sense if you knew very little practicality to how and why PC operates the way it does... And how players have built entire corporations and alliances around it... For YEARS. The problem with PC has nothing to do with the same players who have sought out a competitive game mode to play in DUST for nearly 2 years... Or that players operate on slightly different timezones... The problem is that there is no motivation or even ability for a player that isn't in the PC circle to become competitive in aspiration and join in.... PC has stagnated, suffocated and now is on it's death wease as the same few hundred players get cycled around the same handful of corporations possibly with a slight name change.... Until CCP builds or we seriously start looking on how to create upwward mobility in this games competitive landscape... Then PC is doomed to die and any competitiveness this game once enjoyed with it... None of these changes do that... or will even help the situation and or address the actual problem in anyway.
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 43	Posted - 2015.01.27 09:33:00 - [149] - Quote this is the most idiotic and kinda racist and nationalist thinking ive ever seen. if your not american and on american timers were gonna screw with your corp and players and make you suffer. i hope ccp gets sued over that stuff. i really do, i dont care if the majority player base is around american prime time hours, you shouldnt force others from different nations and timers to conform to yours, you single out people and push people away from the game completely, lets see how many ways you can be an idiot and try and ruin the game kain. their prime time is that timer so what, so they arent allowed to play after work with their friends and pc at their times, force them to alarm clock to play, cause you are to lazy to plan out in advance when an attack is gonna happen and use logistics love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
nickmunson Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 44	Posted - 2015.01.27 11:37:00 - [150] - Quote Propaganda X wrote: Kain Spero wrote: For those still trying to defend Nyain San you are now risking all of PC in doing so. To address planetary conquest and specifically Nyain San CCP has plans to "reset" all timers an nullify your current holdings. CCP Rattati wrote: Dear players, we want to talk about District Timers, in particular, the not-so-much-intended practice of safeguarding Districts into difficult timezones. There are a few ideas already on the table, not a complete list and I expect Kain Spero to show up pretty much instantly. Methods to reset, if we go that way A) Randomize - all Timers will be reset to a random TZ within the allowed Begin and End settings B) Redistribute - all Timers will be reset and fixed in a ratio that aligns with average PCU C) Reset and allow +-X timers around the default District Timer D)Reset and reduce the available option for Timers E)Reset and allow incremental jumps from the default Timer, rising exponentially in ISK cost per 30 minutes. I will add more. Please discuss. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188219&find=unread I also ask Nyain San to stop their selfish holding of land that they don't even use. Set your timers to a reasonable spread and then let the community take it from there. There is no reason to pull down the entire Planetary Conquest community with you. To the PC community: the biomass on those districts will soon have no value ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2580202#post2580202 ) , so waiting around to resolve the Nyain San issue is no longer an option if you want to be compensated for districts that Nyain San is unable to defend themselves. I don't know about you guys but, I personally wouldn't want this dude figuring out PC issues. Or involved in any matters involving PC. Matter of fact he shouldn't even have a district. First district with Internal Error. tags needs to be taken down. Also I wonder why CCP even called for Kain concerning PC issues. It should be CCP contacting all the district owners who actually field a 16 man team. Agreed, and o wait their is only a handful of corps willing to do that. which is sad, why even have a corp with players that never get into pc? to look good in pubs? cantt hurt your precious stats. bottom line if a corps full 16 cant win a fair pc vs another full 16 and resort to ringing they need to get out of pc. cause all they will do is pick on weaker corps. reasons why sota, roman, are the biggest jokes in dust. when their corp flops they drob tags and just make a new corp with the same players. or different, no loyalty to the corp, to the players, to the ceo, meaning CRAP LEADERSHIP, just freaking plan ahead and strat out like a real war, they are forced to do that with eve. this is why half you cry babies should just biomanss, you dont even have a fulll understanding of what ccp has created. timers ect. love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.



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