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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 19:08:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:bigolenuts wrote:
See, it's not that hard Sota to admit you made a mistake. Just say you made one about the nuke and we move on. No issue.
lol @ still thinking you know something. I'll even do you a favor, baltic sea. Not that you even know what that is, you'll need google for that too.
Keep ignoring it.....this is fun
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 19:22:00 -
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Tell you what I will do Sota. Let me clarify your comment and then I will shoot holes in it.
Your comment was, Quote:We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back.
Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol.
This was in response to, Quote:Hiroshima all over again
They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender.
Personally I would have nuked Russia too.
Basically, you are saying the only reason we didn't bomb Russia during WW2 was because of the reason stated, correct? Want to make sure all your information is correct and in its entirety before I start.
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.01.27 19:54:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Tell you what I will do Sota. Let me clarify your comment and then I will shoot holes in it. Your comment was, Quote:We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back.
Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. This was in response to, Quote:Hiroshima all over again
They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender.
Personally I would have nuked Russia too. Basically, you are saying the only reason we didn't bomb Russia during WW2 was because of the reason stated, correct? Want to make sure all your information is correct and in its entirety before I start.
again, you should try google. We even trained nuclear bombers in europe after giving it a check myself.
silly bigole.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:02:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:bigolenuts wrote:Tell you what I will do Sota. Let me clarify your comment and then I will shoot holes in it. Your comment was, Quote:We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back.
Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. This was in response to, Quote:Hiroshima all over again
They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender.
Personally I would have nuked Russia too. Basically, you are saying the only reason we didn't bomb Russia during WW2 was because of the reason stated, correct? Want to make sure all your information is correct and in its entirety before I start. again, you should try google. We even trained nuclear bombers in europe after giving it a check myself. silly bigole.
Quit ignoring the questions Sota. Read the above.
You are so afraid that it is funny. If there is anything about us bombing Russia during WW2 I will report it.
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:38:00 -
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**grabs popcorn and sits silently listening to Americans try to give history lessons accurately**
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:43:00 -
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Damit. I'm to impatient.
There was never a point in time during World War 2 that nuclear bombs were ever going to be in use. Reason being...they didn't exist yet. The atomic bomb and hydrogen bomb were the 2 bombs being invented and tested at the time.
SoTa. I think you are mixing your dates and events. The only time in a history haa a nuclear war almost occurred. And yes it between the United States and Russia. But it was well after World War 2. It was the Cuban missile crisis.
The cold war was the name of that war. It was a time of spy vs spy. The Russians funded the Vietnam War against the USA and the USA funded the war in Afghanistan vs the states. Both costs untold millions in immediate costs...and even more in on going medical costs.
Was dark times.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.01.27 20:59:00 -
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The heck are you talking about.
If we could of - we would of. It was simply not going to happen. We couldn't even safely send in scouts, how were we going to get close enough to nuke?
Do you guys know anything of the navel situations in the northern and southern areas of russia?
Allied forces saw very little success and had to blockade off entire areas, this effected Russia wether or not if they were involved, because Germany involved them.
Our subs and carriers couldn't get in - so we couldn't nuke. Japan we could - so we did.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.01.27 22:00:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:We couldn't even safely send in scouts, how were we going to get close enough to nuke?.
Drop the RE's and grab a cloak. 
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 22:32:00 -
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Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:00:00 -
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been my point all along lol...this guy
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:11:00 -
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The war in Europe was over before the bombs were dropped on Japan.
Germany and Russia started out as homies until the entire Poland fiasco.
America provided support for Britian/France/Allies UNTIL "the day that will live in empathy", December 7, 1941.
Germany had been working on rocket systems, Werner Von Braun headed that department. I know this because everything around where I am from is named after him. Can't turn a corner without seeing Von Braun this, Von Braun that. He snuck out of Germany some how or another and helped the Americans on their rocketry.
The atomic bomb was so secret that the Vice President didn't even know about until he became President. In May of 1945 some scientists wanted Japan to see first hand what a detonation looked like but that was cancelled.
I will say this; there was a plan by the British to defend themselves against the Soviets with the help of the Americans but an attack never came after WW2.
But atomic bombs during WW2 on Russia, never. There was nothing to gain by it.
You had a good story Sota, sort of. Minus the parts that were unfucking true kind of killed it though.
Roman, I do know history and what I don't know I can find. I was just egging Sota on and watching him back peddle from the subject for a few days. How dare you say I didn't lol Him on the other hand, already proven.
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:16:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras
Uh, sorry Roman, but the Japanese would beg to differ with you on nukes in WWII. Cases in point being Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Also, the V2's raining down on London were rocket powered, courtesy of Werner von Braun (later a darling of the American space program). |
Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:19:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:The war in Europe was over before the bombs were dropped on Japan.
Germany and Russia started out as homies until the entire Poland fiasco.
America provided support for Britian/France/Allies UNTIL "the day that will live in empathy", December 7, 1941.
Germany had been working on rocket systems, Werner Von Braun headed that department. I know this because everything around where I am from is named after him. Can't turn a corner without seeing Von Braun this, Von Braun that. He snuck out of Germany some how or another and helped the Americans on their rocketry.
The atomic bomb was so secret that the Vice President didn't even know about until he became President. In May of 1945 some scientists wanted Japan to see first hand what a detonation looked like but that was cancelled.
I will say this; there was a plan by the British to defend themselves against the Soviets with the help of the Americans but an attack never came after WW2.
But atomic bombs during WW2 on Russia, never. There was nothing to gain by it.
You had a good story Sota, sort of. Minus the parts that were unfucking true kind of killed it though.
Roman, I do know history and what I don't know I can find. I was just egging Sota on and watching him back peddle from the subject for a few days. How dare you say I didn't lol Him on the other hand, already proven.
Believe FDR said "infamy".
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:23:00 -
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Vlad Rostok wrote:bigolenuts wrote:The war in Europe was over before the bombs were dropped on Japan.
Germany and Russia started out as homies until the entire Poland fiasco.
America provided support for Britian/France/Allies UNTIL "the day that will live in empathy", December 7, 1941.
Germany had been working on rocket systems, Werner Von Braun headed that department. I know this because everything around where I am from is named after him. Can't turn a corner without seeing Von Braun this, Von Braun that. He snuck out of Germany some how or another and helped the Americans on their rocketry.
The atomic bomb was so secret that the Vice President didn't even know about until he became President. In May of 1945 some scientists wanted Japan to see first hand what a detonation looked like but that was cancelled.
I will say this; there was a plan by the British to defend themselves against the Soviets with the help of the Americans but an attack never came after WW2.
But atomic bombs during WW2 on Russia, never. There was nothing to gain by it.
You had a good story Sota, sort of. Minus the parts that were unfucking true kind of killed it though.
Roman, I do know history and what I don't know I can find. I was just egging Sota on and watching him back peddle from the subject for a few days. How dare you say I didn't lol Him on the other hand, already proven. Believe FDR said "infamy".
Correct....we were not giving them empathy lol
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:35:00 -
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Those were not nuclear dam weapons. Those were atomic bombs. And hydrogen bombs. Nuclear is much much worse.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Roman837
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
975
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Posted - 2015.01.27 23:37:00 -
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But. The argument about the allies being after Russia is false. If it wasn't for Russia we would not have won that war. Germany made a huge error in awaking the Bear. It costs them epics amount of clones and isk to fight that war.
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Vlad Rostok
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.28 00:52:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Those were not nuclear dam weapons. Those were atomic bombs. And hydrogen bombs. Nuclear is much much worse.
Well, granted I'm not a nuclear engineer, just a chemical one, but I can read discernibly, and this seems legit to me (although Wikipedia may never be as trusted as the Encyclopaedia Brittannica):
Wikipedia wrote:A nuclear weapon is an explosive device that derives its destructive force from nuclear reactions, either fission or a combination of fission and fusion. Both reactions release vast quantities of energy from relatively small amounts of matter. The first fission ("atomic") bomb test released the same amount of energy as approximately 20,000 tons of TNT. The first thermonuclear ("hydrogen") bomb test released the same amount of energy as approximately 10,000,000 tons of TNT.
As of 2014, only two nuclear weapons have been used in the course of warfare, both times by the United States near the end of World War II. On 6 August 1945, a uranium gun-type fission bomb code-named "Little Boy" was detonated over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Three days later, on 9 August, a plutonium implosion-type fission bomb code-named "Fat Man" was exploded over the Japanese city of Nagasaki. These two bombings resulted in the deaths of approximately 200,000 civilians and military personnel from acute injuries sustained from the explosions.- Wikipedia
It would seem that atomic or nuclear are both labels for a fission device, and so this argument would seem to be more semantics than anything else.
As to whether or not one is "much much worse", I would think that is more a function of yield. Then again, I'm just a chemical engineer, not a nuclear engineer.
Incidentally, if you haven't read "In Harm's Way", an account of the USS Indianapolis, which effectively delivered "Little Boy" to Tinian Island, I highly recommend it. |
bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.28 01:56:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Those were not nuclear dam weapons. Those were atomic bombs. And hydrogen bombs. Nuclear is much much worse.
I say nuclear as all inclusive. I apologize for threatening your degree in nuclear studies. Shall I go back and correct posting?
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.28 01:58:00 -
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Sota will be back shortly. He has taken an anime time machine back to 1931 so he can be right. Please stand by.
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.28 03:47:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras
The fat man and little boy was used mate. Ever here of Hiroshima or Nagasaki?
Those were nukes
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.01.28 03:52:00 -
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Nuclear weapons are atomic bombs and hydrogen bombs. They are called nuclear weapons because the both have something to do with the nucleus of an atom. A hydrogen bomb uses nuclear fusion (smashing atoms together) and an atomic bomb uses nuclear fission (ripping atoms apart). Hydrogen bombs are much more powerful than atomic bombs though.
Here is my stupidity for those who care.
http://youtu.be/4rElV_w_DPQ
Incase if anyone cares.
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nickmunson
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.01.28 07:59:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:So. I agreed with everything you just said. Up until you just randomly lied and called me out. **** off nick.
I was in STB for 11 months. Caught CEO stealing isk and other directors covering it up. Confronted them and got kicked. Joined DDB for 4 months because I had friends there. Totally helped them in pc and to get them more active. Brought 10 players with me. During that time I also provided obs to the entire renegade alliance.
Fan fest hit and DDB was going Dormant. A director of DDB Kody Cole asked me to join ERA with him as they were active. He said others would follow. So I applied and Kane accepted. Kody changed his mind. For the next 3 months while in ERA I used my isk resources and players to fight with and for DDB. Not ever against them. Also during that time in ERA I even got STB back into PC and defended their districts.
Wow. Such a flopper.wow look at my corp hopping and disloyalty.
Went away on a fishing trip and Espeon tried to seize power. He took 10 out of 60 active players. Didn't hurt much he got the ****** players.
We decided ERA smelled to much like Kane and wanted to have nothing to do with him. Was perfect opportunity to start and build our own corp.
5 months ago we created Murphys Law. In a short 5 months we have already accomplished more then corps who started day one.
If you're gonna talk trash get your story straight. I am loyal to my team and to my alliance. Can you and corp say the same?
look at cap aqc players corp history, even while dormant people stuck through it. didnt move on, just stayed. have many still active just no pcs. why, cause that is loyalty, not following friends every where they go, like molon we have actually built something lasting, not something that will fall apart if kicked out of pc. thats what makes you different, you have said it yourself many of times, YOU DONT BELIEVE in your own corp members to beat the best out there or even try, that you will ring out the best players you can. im sorry i wouldnt follow a ceo like that. that has no faith in the majority of his corp memebrs only a hand full.sad. worse part is you say this stuff about your own memebrs never being in a tough pc and they still follow you even though your saying they arent good enough.
love me or hate me. you kill me i hunt you.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.28 11:06:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras The fat man and little boy was used mate. Ever hear of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Those were nukes
The war was basically over by the time they were used though. From what I've read the Allies carpet bombed Japan for months softening them up for a land invasion and we purposely did not hit those two cities plus another one so the full effect of the bomb could be analyzed. Japan had agreed to surrender before either bomb was dropped but not to the full concessions we were demanding. So, the rest is history. Nagasaki was a secondary target as well and although a bigger bomb was used we missed the target by 800 meters and the mountains absorbed most of the effect.
I also read that there were over 100 people that had been in both cities and experienced both blasts. Imagine that luck lol..They have some Japanese word/phrase for them. I can go find it again if interested.
My last relationship was like Forrest Gumps and Jenni. I was a retard and she was a whore.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.29 19:59:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Dude....we went fighting Russia in ww2. Nukes were not invented then. ..Nor was rocketry. The atom bomb was dropped from a bomber. You are mistaking time eras The fat man and little boy was used mate. Ever hear of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Those were nukes The war was basically over by the time they were used though. From what I've read the Allies carpet bombed Japan for months softening them up for a land invasion and we purposely did not hit those two cities plus another one so the full effect of the bomb could be analyzed. Japan had agreed to surrender before either bomb was dropped but not to the full concessions we were demanding. So, the rest is history. Nagasaki was a secondary target as well and although a bigger bomb was used we missed the target by 800 meters and the mountains absorbed most of the effect. I also read that there were over 100 people that had been in both cities and experienced both blasts. Imagine that luck lol..They have some Japanese word/phrase for them. I can go find it again if interested.
If you're bored you can look up Russia wants America punished for war crimes in ww2.. Isn't Stalin responsible for like 40m deaths?
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THE DRiZZLE AQUA TEEN
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Posted - 2015.01.30 21:40:00 -
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Zzzzzz
Keeping The Dream Alive.
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.01.31 01:14:00 -
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Nyain still has those districts? LOL.
Y'all only defend them because you get paid to ring whenever those districts get attacked. It's a joke they have any land at all, they don't even play.
Only loyal to the republic.
PSN: TerrifiedPotato
I'm nothing more than bittervet without a PS3.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:02:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol.
Bumped to show Sota's lack of intelligence and possibly the most ignorant comment made in the War Room this year. A top nomination and it is only 1/31/2015
I used to laugh at Grandpa when he'd go fishing.But I wouldn't be laughing that evening when he'd come back with a whore
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:07:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. Bumped to show Sota's lack of intelligence and possibly the most ignorant comment made in the War Room this year. A top nomination and it is only 1/31/2015
lol, you really need to learn you naval history.
But thanks for the bump <3
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:22:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:bigolenuts wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:Hiroshima all over again They attacked a country that was only supplying the allies and had no intentions of going to war, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a result of their actions. Nagasaki wasn't needed but it was to show power and what would happen if they didn't surrender. Personally I would have nuked Russia too. We couldn't nuke russia, everytime we got close enough to send one - there subs got in the way, and we couldn't hold any fuel stations close enough to there locations to send in planes that could safely make it back. Even though at the time russia's air/navy forces were a joke - the country is just so damn big, lol. Bumped to show Sota's lack of intelligence and possibly the most ignorant comment made in the War Room this year. A top nomination and it is only 1/31/2015 lol, you really need to learn you naval history. But thanks for the bump <3
LOL, ok Mr. Historian. You have been asked time and time again to provide the proof to support your claim. Nothing yet. It's easier to say, "I'm not going to help you learn how to use Google" than actually just get the proof.
LOL...here you go Sota... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwkZrj2VT4
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake- Napoleon Bonaparte
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.01.31 16:48:00 -
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Don't need to provide proof to obvious claims.
It's really no ones fault but your own that you don't understand what the Navy is capable of or what it means to station a carrier somewhere. It should be very obvious, if you need more details then go ahead and google a special 'gay' plane. *Let's that one slide by him*
But it's cool - if you use google enough I'm sure you'll feel like you learned something. 
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