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Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
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Posted - 2015.01.20 17:55:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:
and is the concept saying. The more land you own the more players you need to have active for fuel?
Correct.
That's what's up....I can dig it.....
Roman, Radar, D3lta, Rabbit, Kardia, Shep Grey
What you guys think....read that proposal about Shield/Fuel
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Viktor's Alt
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
12
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Posted - 2015.01.20 17:55:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them.
Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce
The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC |
Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
4294
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:04:00 -
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Viktor's Alt wrote:
I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better
It's just means things are squeaky clean.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
5482
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:10:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting all of PC if they aren't addressed.
You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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SoTa PoP
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
5764
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:11:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting all of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. Only problem I see is region lock.
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Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
151
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:13:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting all of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing.
If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point.
Something Awful is going on around here. Hehe
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Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
151
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:15:00 -
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Viktor's Alt wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them.
Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better
I ring every single day....you all types of stupid huh
But I get what u trying to do...have fun with that
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
5482
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:17:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting all of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point.
The goal should be to rework timer mechanics, reward mechanics, implement some checks to prevent locking behaviors and farming, alongside offering free clone packs and the corp warbarge system. The whole system isn't being thrown out, but I think at the very least, it'll be a completely different meta for what corps thrive in it and how.
I noted in another thread that a lot of competitive games have seasons. Every so often they reset, people keep their rewards they got, but the actual competitive ranking resets. I think it's sensible to reset when we change mechanics heavily particularly if the placement from the prior mechanics makes it hard for the new system to work as intended right out of the gate.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
4296
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:24:00 -
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I'm not sure how just scrambling the current timers and then making it where you can't change them counts as "heavily" changing the system.
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Mr Machine Guns
1003
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:26:00 -
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Just keep timers just have it so a certain percentage of a corps districts can be set to certain timer? Maybe 20 to 30 percent |
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Mr Machine Guns
1003
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:27:00 -
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Just keep timers just have it so a certain percentage of a corps districts can be set to certain timer? Maybe 20 to 30 percent it should also applied to corps with a certain number of districts too |
Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:28:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Just keep timers just have it so a certain percentage of a corps districts can be set to certain timer? Maybe 20 to 30 percent
At that point you just end up with ALT corps although that's going to be exceedingly difficult if CCP goes ahead with their activity barriers to being able to attack.
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Roman837
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
778
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:31:00 -
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You should not even be mentioning or considering limiting a corp to how much it can own or what timer it choses to place it's timers on. As much as we myself included complain about timers....it's their choice. The only solution to this is give an option to chose a window left or right by a decided amount of hours to hit the districts..
Other than that. There should be an incentive to own a district. It should generate isk. Doesn't have to be much. But soon as it's attacked the isk stops. And it has to be at full clones.
It is our own fault if we allow a district to sit on line generating isk. That is not passive isk. That is passive opponents and players.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Character Cesar Sousa, CEO of Murphys-Law
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Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
151
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:32:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting all of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point. The goal should be to rework timer mechanics, reward mechanics, implement some checks to prevent locking behaviors and farming, alongside offering free clone packs and the corp warbarge system. The whole system isn't being thrown out, but I think at the very least, it'll be a completely different meta for what corps thrive in it and how. I noted in another thread that a lot of competitive games have seasons. Every so often they reset, people keep their rewards they got, but the actual competitive ranking resets. I think it's sensible to reset when we change mechanics heavily particularly if the placement from the prior mechanics makes it hard for the new system to work as intended right out of the gate.
Resetting is fine....haven't had one. So it's time in my eyes. Why not go for it. But o ly if trully a new system. If it's just tweaks. I won't even care im just going to leave. This is my last year with Dust and other people if stuff don't change im sure.
There just way way to much other awesome stuff now in PS4 world. Why stay here for more headache...
This is deffenetly going to make or break dust player count. I for one this goes side ways....see ya later 3 years of grief to just get more and more...nahhhhh...my last try I hope CCP make a good decision I hope we can all come up with something trully fair. Cuz honestly
Do we really want to keep playing each other...it's been 3 years same ol crap different day...
That brings me to my next point.
Bring back Logistics and Enforcer vehicles. Swarms are where they need to be AV period is awesome across the board. So bring back what was fun. Bring some more to e table. Cuz honestly.
Do all you guys and gals really want to play with this same ol game another year. Same arguments same people in PC just under different banners....
IM at my end. This is 100% my last year. It doesn't develope im not giving the, another 4 years to see the same people in PC again and again and again and again....jeeze
Do we Need to just make One Corp have every dust player in PC Join we make a true 100% donut and tell CCP enough man. It's just Us Here...I for one am tired of seeing Ghostt Shadoww, MMG, NickMunson,Roman,Devin,Rabbit, O.H.,NS,ML,CAP,AE...been here 3 years same people on top same arguments same same same same same
Well I finally got a PS4 2 days ago...and this is it for me...Dust either changes to where I don't see he same people on top all the time. And more variety in PC for the small people...or see you later. Cuz it's obvious everything they do..it's only us top corps fighting each other. New people come in we boot them period....
3 years people 3 years same ol damn SH!t and same ol damn people
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Mr Machine Guns
1004
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:34:00 -
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Agree NS has earned to right to put the district to whatever timer they want, the Japanese players in NS would attack timers unfair to them and take those district and switch to their prime time not to mention downtime is in their prime time too so Ccp has also taken away a timer for all Asian corps |
el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
750
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:34:00 -
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Viktor's Alt wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them.
Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC. Additionally, both of you have legacies of negatively effecting PC for the greater playerbase community as a whole, what with the DNS 100% directive and the 1000 Clone Army attack threat that inspired the formation of one of the largest and longest PC corp donuts to date. I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better
^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^ (Yeah, I fixed it a little bit...)
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Viktor's Alt
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
15
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:36:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them.
Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better I ring every single day....you all types of stupid huh But I get what u trying to do...have fun with that That's strange cause I truely ring everyday and have not seen you in months. |
Mr Machine Guns
1004
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:40:00 -
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What Kain also forgets to mention how Ns has peronsally help corps set up their version of Pfc in Almur and Kain don't forget the districts Ns was going to give up so you could set up corp battles on Bosena the only reason Kain is saying all these negative things about Ns is because NS helped AE and not him so if Ccp is actually listening to him it's just lol because of a personal grudge one player has |
Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
151
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:40:00 -
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Viktor's Alt wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Viktor's Alt wrote:If anyone sends attacks on nyian contact me i would like to fight them.
Not that I hate nyian or think they are selfish I just want some fights and think it will be fun. This has nothing to do with a blitz...this is about changing PC totally..... Lead by example and give feedback not BS pls u a dust vet...brain storm with us. Stop being a douce The ridiculous part of this thread is neither you or kain are even in PC I'll be a douche 24/7 because no one does it better I ring every single day....you all types of stupid huh But I get what u trying to do...have fun with that That's strange cause I truely ring everyday and have not seen you in months.
When I said good luck with that... Ment Im Ignore you from here on out. Cuz you just typing nonsense....good day sir o7
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Ghostt Shadoww
Carne Con Papas
151
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:44:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:What Kain also forgets to mention how Ns has peronsally help corps set up their version of Pfc in Almur and Kain don't forget the districts Ns was going to give up so you could set up corp battles on Bosena the only reason Kain is saying all these negative things about Ns is because NS helped AE and not him so if Ccp is actually listening to him it's just lol because of a personal grudge one player has
This is why I'm leaving soon....same ol sh!t different day...
Let me know when you guys want to trully talk about this game. And done with the Meta. I'm go play for a few hours. Maybe by then the Meta game will stop. And we can get back to talking about the true problem at hand
MMG and all you other trolls....you such children for real. Can't ever be men and just brain storm fr the good of the game
Damn kids can't never be serious....good day see yall in a few hours o7
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2919
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:45:00 -
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Any idea that both Kain and Ghostttt like must be a bad one..... |
Moorian Flav
297
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Posted - 2015.01.20 18:51:00 -
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If this is really such a problem, why didn't a current CPM bring this up?
BTW, I do find it funny it is at this point PC may actually be reset. Back when 80%-90% of the corps were peacefully farming ISK together, a reset or shutdown of PC was simply impossible.
I don't troll; I tell the truth.
I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
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Shepherd Grey
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
308
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:05:00 -
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Don't need to read entire thread. This coming from the same guy who led TP, which owned 33% with less than 40 people. Who ran ERA, which owned 30% and couldn't field a team under its own flag to save its life - instead COMPLETELY relying on a massive ringer teams consisting of ERA/STB/TP/NF/FA/etc.. Who forced the 100% idea down the community's throat to "help them" after the spoils were commandeered. Your argument is to strong arm NS because they can't field all their battles? My my, pot/kettle conundrum here. Not that I agree with them holding the amount of land to begin with, for some reasons aforementioned, but for you to attempt to command our agenda is ludacrous.
I noticed in your OP that Rattati obviously recognizes your opinion. Why don't you instead take that responsibility and utilize it in a way you may not be familiar with - promoting pc. Bring back the incentive to actually fight for the land, not just have battles between each other because there's nothing else to do. Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself. I've heard talk of some carebear sh!t like only alliance members can play in battles after PC 2.0 - seriously? I guess they should change the Dust514 intro movie, wherein characters are described as mercenaries? Talk about donutization of MH, a wasteland for any small organization - an ideal that does anything BUT follow the eve/dust premise.
Oh Roman, I guess I could then attack your 0200 and make it a 0500 battle, ay? Ya know, OUR primetime. I know you've had your warm glass of milk and are probably tucked in, but we'll be waiting. Look both ways before crossing the street -> Nocturnal Acquisitions, pleasing vampires and Pacific Islanders since Uprising.
Alright...back to my BIscuits and gravy. |
Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:06:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:What Kain also forgets to mention how Ns has peronsally help corps set up their version of Pfc in Almur and Kain don't forget the districts Ns was going to give up so you could set up corp battles on Bosena the only reason Kain is saying all these negative things about Ns is because NS helped AE and not him so if Ccp is actually listening to him it's just lol because of a personal grudge one player has
Nah, the negative things about NS has to come from the fact that your corp is now largely inactive yet you continue to hold onto 47 districts all stacked on a timer that you don't even have the raw numbers to utilize.
Again, your land is going to be forfeit one way or the other. The question is are you going to make CCP pry it from your inactive hands or let the players redistribute it themselves?
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
5482
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:09:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:This is deffenetly going to make or break dust player count. I for one this goes side ways....see ya later 3 years of grief to just get more and more...nahhhhh...my last try I hope CCP make a good decision I hope we can all come up with something trully fair. Cuz honestly
I recommend participating as helpfully as possible in the Feedback and Ideas Discussion board where CCP Rattati has threads going on for the first few aspects of PC that are going to be touched. (As well as a thread on bringing back more HAV types.)
Shepherd Grey wrote:Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself.
I agree it's important that success in PC be profitable. However passive ISK can never be a thing again. I think the goal is to ensure that there is good solid payout for real fights. It needs to be very difficult to farm the system.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Al the destroyer
0uter.Heaven
221
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:24:00 -
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Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Ghostt Shadoww wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:For Old Nyain San I would agree, but now the corporation is a shell of it's former self. Still those timers are going to result in CCP resetting all of PC if they aren't addressed. You speak like resetting PC when a better system comes out is a bad thing. If it's a totally new system. Then yeah wipe it clean start a new. If not just a tweak. Then what's the point. The goal should be to rework timer mechanics, reward mechanics, implement some checks to prevent locking behaviors and farming, alongside offering free clone packs and the corp warbarge system. The whole system isn't being thrown out, but I think at the very least, it'll be a completely different meta for what corps thrive in it and how. I noted in another thread that a lot of competitive games have seasons. Every so often they reset, people keep their rewards they got, but the actual competitive ranking resets. I think it's sensible to reset when we change mechanics heavily particularly if the placement from the prior mechanics makes it hard for the new system to work as intended right out of the gate. Resetting is fine....haven't had one. So it's time in my eyes. Why not go for it. But o ly if trully a new system. If it's just tweaks. I won't even care im just going to leave. This is my last year with Dust and other people if stuff don't change im sure. There just way way to much other awesome stuff now in PS4 world. Why stay here for more headache... This is deffenetly going to make or break dust player count. I for one this goes side ways....see ya later 3 years of grief to just get more and more...nahhhhh...my last try I hope CCP make a good decision I hope we can all come up with something trully fair. Cuz honestly Do we really want to keep playing each other...it's been 3 years same ol crap different day... That brings me to my next point. Bring back Logistics and Enforcer vehicles. Swarms are where they need to be AV period is awesome across the board. So bring back what was fun. Bring some more to e table. Cuz honestly. Do all you guys and gals really want to play with this same ol game another year. Same arguments same people in PC just under different banners.... IM at my end. This is 100% my last year. It doesn't develope im not giving the, another 4 years to see the same people in PC again and again and again and again....jeeze Do we Need to just make One Corp have every dust player in PC Join we make a true 100% donut and tell CCP enough man. It's just Us Here...I for one am tired of seeing Ghostt Shadoww, MMG, NickMunson,Roman,Devin,Rabbit, O.H.,NS,ML,CAP,AE...been here 3 years same people on top same arguments same same same same same Well I finally got a PS4 2 days ago...and this is it for me...Dust either changes to where I don't see he same people on top all the time. And more variety in PC for the small people...or see you later. Cuz it's obvious everything they do..it's only us top corps fighting each other. New people come in we boot them period.... 3 years people 3 years same ol damn SH!t and same ol damn people You want new ppl in PC get rid of the stupid complicated rules fine you don't like 1 hour make it 3 but if it is where you have to jump though a bunch if hoops wait 24 hrs to what... get a district that gains you nothing but clones? You will be fighting the same ppl over and over. Get over worring whether or not you have a district and find some good fights. I play with a guy who has 98 million so who has never been in a PC. Why because it's a pain in the a55. Think outside the box, easier and faster with less cost and better rewards more player that's the goal.
I run around carrying nanohives like I'm delivering pizzas XD
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Kain Spero
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.20 19:48:00 -
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Shepherd Grey wrote:Don't need to read entire thread. This coming from the same guy who led TP, which owned 33% with less than 40 people. Who ran ERA, which owned 30% and couldn't field a team under its own flag to save its life - instead COMPLETELY relying on a massive ringer teams consisting of ERA/STB/TP/NF/FA/etc.. Who forced the 100% idea down the community's throat to "help them" after the spoils were commandeered. Your argument is to strong arm NS because they can't field all their battles? My my, pot/kettle conundrum here. Not that I agree with them holding the amount of land to begin with, for some reasons aforementioned, but for you to attempt to command our agenda is ludacrous.
I noticed in your OP that Rattati obviously recognizes your opinion. Why don't you instead take that responsibility and utilize it in a way you may not be familiar with - promoting pc. Bring back the incentive to actually fight for the land, not just have battles between each other because there's nothing else to do. Passive isk at some level is a must, or some way to generate usable income that can be funneled to members/corp in financing pc itself. I've heard talk of some carebear sh!t like only alliance members can play in battles after PC 2.0 - seriously? I guess they should change the Dust514 intro movie, wherein characters are described as mercenaries? Talk about donutization of MH, a wasteland for any small organization - an ideal that does anything BUT follow the eve/dust premise.
Oh Roman, I guess I could then attack your 0200 and make it a 0500 battle, ay? Ya know, OUR primetime. I know you've had your warm glass of milk and are probably tucked in, but we'll be waiting. Look both ways before crossing the street -> Nocturnal Acquisitions, pleasing vampires and Pacific Islanders since Uprising.
Alright...back to my BIscuits and gravy.
I think bringing back rewards to districts is critical for the health of Planetary Conquest in the long run. Those rewards need to be generated actively through gameplay though.
Passive wealth generation will just make things like what I did with DNS not only possible again but probable. I don't regret exposing how dysfunctional PC was through player action. That's often the only way that CCP really listens.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
4385
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:05:00 -
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Shep...I lead TP not Kain
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Shepherd Grey
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
310
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Posted - 2015.01.20 20:51:00 -
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The paradox of "actively" gaining the rewards as compared to passively is a judgement of the lesser of two evils. Passive can lead to doughnut large-scale care bear farming. Active can lead to malicious "farming" of lower-tiered corps via attacking repeatedly, subsequently destroying corps' morale entirely and pushing them out of MH. There has to be a balance of both.....in such a way that neither scenario is encouraged or lucrative. You must be rewarded for having the land, and using it. I understand that the complexity of devising such a reward scale is beyond CCP's applicable capacity, but formulating a blueprint that can be simplified (dumbed down) would motivate corps across the board to exercise entrepreneurship and risk their investment into MH. No doubt a double-edged sword, from either perspective.
Take this for example.... District gets 10 mil/day. However, each passing day that the district is not "used" this passive payment decreases exponentially. So today, NS's districts would pay them 0, because they aren't used in any way. Or take away the isk, instead a district gets X weapons/equipment etc at the same decreasing magnitude. Then either/or would be instead earned through active battle, i.e. PC. Periodic free clone packs for new corps without land, to break in without losing it all. Farming could have been ended long ago, if CCP would take five minutes to simply monitor every PC that goes on: spectate a battle that they know is going on - they see no one in it, a warning is issued (or fine). Second infraction, increased consequence - leading to removal of districts/corporate dissolution/bans/etc. A few corps would be set an example, the rest would realize that law is enforced properly. The community could assist by reporting suspects, simplifying this process for devs.
I just can't wrap my head around the direction PC is going. In what other situation, in any other game (VG's or RL sports) are the highest-tiered competitors effectively "punished" for aspiring to reach the top? Meaning, why would the risk reap no reward for PC corps, instead becoming an isk-drain? What kind of communist setup do the lobby shooter hobby players in pubs deserve the same income as the "pros"? Duna514, everyone. Inb4elitist? |
el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
751
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Posted - 2015.01.20 22:33:00 -
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Nocturnal Acquisitions: We came, We saw, We stole your bedtime.
gpn
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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