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Echo 1991 wrote:

JRleo jr wrote:

Echo 1991 wrote:

JRleo jr wrote:

Echo 1991 wrote:

AV cant hit you whenever though, the furthest away any AV weapon can reach is 300m and thats just the forge gun. and AV isnt balanced around one module, fit a booster/extender, hardener and afterburner and see how often you die if get the hell out of an area when AV shoots you.

Um you do realize that we can't see av unless it's around 75m, right? They can easily surprise any airborne vehicle, and swarms and forges knock around the python so damm much.

Dont talk crap because yes you can see it, i know you can. If they are firing behind you thats a different story and maybe why you cant see it Roll

Ahaha, funny, I guess that's why I get hit by a random forge, and if I evade since I know his general location, I can activate my hard and locate him, and if he's mlt or I try to evade I can take him out, proto forge usually is a bad idea though.

So then what is your argument? you say you cant see them but know where they are and evade. Also the fact that you get knocked about by explosions is to do with a little thing called physics. it causes impact which is going to make you move so dont complain about it, just learn to fly properly.

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JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:06:00 - [331] - Quote Atiim wrote: Temias Mercurial wrote: How about flying a Python yourself and seeing the other side of the coin... the argument of AV and dropships is getting so annoying when people are not aware of the perspective of the other player. I've been operating Pythons and Incubi for months now, and I'm well aware of the V/AV scene from the pilot's perspective. And from my experience, I can honestly tell you that the Python's ability to easily evade AV within a very short period of time, coupled with the RoF and DPS the turrets have with ADS Operation means that it needs no HP buff. No role in the game should ever have all 3 attributes of combat (being 'Tank', Speed, and DPS). Not all ships use an ab. Dropships don't go from 0 to 75 instantly, I've seen swarms, they are garunteed at least 2 hits, if you are not moving so fast of course. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:07:00 - [332] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: AV cant hit you whenever though, the furthest away any AV weapon can reach is 300m and thats just the forge gun. and AV isnt balanced around one module, fit a booster/extender, hardener and afterburner and see how often you die if get the hell out of an area when AV shoots you. Um you do realize that we can't see av unless it's around 75m, right? They can easily surprise any airborne vehicle, and swarms and forges knock around the python so damm much. Dont talk crap because yes you can see it, i know you can. If they are firing behind you thats a different story and maybe why you cant see it Ahaha, funny, I guess that's why I get hit by a random forge, and if I evade since I know his general location, I can activate my hard and locate him, and if he's mlt or I try to evade I can take him out, proto forge usually is a bad idea though. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 387	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:11:00 - [333] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: AV cant hit you whenever though, the furthest away any AV weapon can reach is 300m and thats just the forge gun. and AV isnt balanced around one module, fit a booster/extender, hardener and afterburner and see how often you die if get the hell out of an area when AV shoots you. Um you do realize that we can't see av unless it's around 75m, right? They can easily surprise any airborne vehicle, and swarms and forges knock around the python so damm much. Dont talk crap because yes you can see it, i know you can. If they are firing behind you thats a different story and maybe why you cant see it Ahaha, funny, I guess that's why I get hit by a random forge, and if I evade since I know his general location, I can activate my hard and locate him, and if he's mlt or I try to evade I can take him out, proto forge usually is a bad idea though. So then what is your argument? you say you cant see them but know where they are and evade. Also the fact that you get knocked about by explosions is to do with a little thing called physics. it causes impact which is going to make you move so dont complain about it, just learn to fly properly.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:15:00 - [334] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: AV cant hit you whenever though, the furthest away any AV weapon can reach is 300m and thats just the forge gun. and AV isnt balanced around one module, fit a booster/extender, hardener and afterburner and see how often you die if get the hell out of an area when AV shoots you. Um you do realize that we can't see av unless it's around 75m, right? They can easily surprise any airborne vehicle, and swarms and forges knock around the python so damm much. Dont talk crap because yes you can see it, i know you can. If they are firing behind you thats a different story and maybe why you cant see it Ahaha, funny, I guess that's why I get hit by a random forge, and if I evade since I know his general location, I can activate my hard and locate him, and if he's mlt or I try to evade I can take him out, proto forge usually is a bad idea though. So then what is your argument? you say you cant see them but know where they are and evade. Also the fact that you get knocked about by explosions is to do with a little thing called physics. it causes impact which is going to make you move so dont complain about it, just learn to fly properly. Haha, wow, you're funny, learn to fly? Haha, I can avoid forges without an ab if I know what I'm doingnand am far enough. And proto forges even with a hard wrecks the python, and python gets thrown back when trying to hover which is very annoying. And I mean I don't know thier location is until after he fires, due to the way air vehicles are. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 387	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:19:00 - [335] - Quote so you want to buff ADSs becuase you choose to not use an afterburner and wonder why AV can still hit you. Am i about right? cos that is what it seems like
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:19:00 - [336] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: so you want to buff ADSs becuase you choose to not use an afterburner and wonder why AV can still hit you. Am i about right? cos that is what it seems like Wow, you are waay off. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 387	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:21:00 - [337] - Quote So then whats the problem you have? cos, as far as im aware, there isnt one.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:23:00 - [338] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: So then whats the problem you have? cos, as far as im aware, there isnt one. The python just needs a small buff and this is it. And fyi, ads will never be as good as a tank, due to higher skill required to operate a ads property, not sp, and the knockback effect, sometimes it's real bad, or atleast not with most people. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 387	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:30:00 - [339] - Quote the python doesnt need any buff, it is supposed to have less hp as shielded vehicles are faster, have more resists and have a passive regen. what else does it need cos you can get over 4000 eHP on a python with an extender and a hardener.
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 142	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:42:00 - [340] - Quote I think that what people are forgetting is that even thought a Python may have near tank health, it has a lower natural resistance than a tank has, so will take more damage than a tank... so it's not as formidable anyway. My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.

Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 389	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:46:00 - [341] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: I think that what people are forgetting is that even thought a Python may have near tank health, it has a lower natural resistance than a tank has, so will take more damage than a tank... so it's not as formidable anyway. no. resistance is the same
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 167	Posted - 2014.08.02 01:14:00 - [342] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: I think that what people are forgetting is that even thought a Python may have near tank health, it has a lower natural resistance than a tank has, so will take more damage than a tank... so it's not as formidable anyway. Key word is near, like a sica, that is more (can't find correct spelling) septimal to damage, thrusters are easier to hit than back of gunlogi I think, can be shot from anywhere because it's an air vehicle, and not as much cpu and pg. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11185	Posted - 2014.08.02 05:55:00 - [343] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: so it's not as formidable anyway. 500.5HP of Damage per shot 536.25 RPM 4,473 DPS If you don't find this to be formidable, then arguing with you is pointless as you clearly lack credibility. 'Hotfix Charlie' Pythons = Flying Gunnlogis with 4,473 DPS. Also featuring 112m/s flight speeds :D -HAND
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3564	Posted - 2014.08.02 06:04:00 - [344] - Quote Atiim wrote: ... clear lack of credibility. Who? Pilots? Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 168	Posted - 2014.08.02 06:30:00 - [345] - Quote Atiim wrote: Temias Mercurial wrote: so it's not as formidable anyway. 500.5HP of Damage per shot 536.25 RPM 4,473 DPS If you don't find this to be formidable, then arguing with you is pointless as you clearly lack credibility. Swarms aren't the only av atiim, nor should they be as powerful as you want them to be. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 393	Posted - 2014.08.02 14:35:00 - [346] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Atiim wrote: Temias Mercurial wrote: so it's not as formidable anyway. 500.5HP of Damage per shot 536.25 RPM 4,473 DPS If you don't find this to be formidable, then arguing with you is pointless as you clearly lack credibility. Swarms aren't the only av atiim, nor should they be as powerful as you want them to be. Swarms arent that strong, a forge will always deal more damage than a swarm launcher, on top of that they have a smaller area in which they can engage.


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