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CCP Z C C P C C P Alliance 134	Posted - 2014.06.24 09:29:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, As promised to some of you on twitter, here are some screenshots from the new Market in-game (which is the reason why I did not have the time to get back to the Progression Discussion for quite a while). What's to know? As CCP Rouge presented during Fanfest, we want to create a player driven Economy in Legion. No more Secondary Market with NPC selling at a given price whatever quantity you would dream of. Now people have to loot gear and sell it on this Market. Basic functionalities will be: Sort Search per name, or category Create a Sell Order Purchase a Sell Order This feature will come with a set of sorting/filtering options: Price Name Metalevel Quantity Rarity Duration I can answer some questions on functionality and future development of this feature, but remember, it is only a 1st iteration ;) Enjoy: http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg Monetization and Progression Producer -CCP Z


CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 2962	Posted - 2014.06.24 09:30:00 - [2] - Quote Glue applied. Fire away! CCP Frame

Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1412	Posted - 2014.06.24 09:53:00 - [3] - Quote Oh that is VERY nice. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University
Rain0001 Team Evil 0	Posted - 2014.06.24 09:58:00 - [4] - Quote This makes my spine shiver
Rabbit C515 Die Valkyrja General Tso's Alliance 19	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:01:00 - [5] - Quote I hope those contents are just use for UI mockup as we are expecting 'assault rifle' will be renamed to 'plasma rifle' in Legion
I-Shayz-I Sanmatar Kelkoons 3764	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:05:00 - [6] - Quote So this is what you guys have been busy working on ;D My initial reaction when I saw this was "Woah, look at all the pretty colors!" Seriously, in the current Dust market it's very blue...and more blue I know that a lot of other players really like the idea of a player-market, but it's one of the things that has kept me away from playing EVE. FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. I really hope that even though we won't be able to buy thousands of weapons from a NPC market, there will still be a simplistic way to restock items (like you currently can on the fitting screen) without having to go into the market to buy and sell. That said, this is great stuff and I seriously can't wait to see more of it in the future. Keep it up! 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1239	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:09:00 - [7] - Quote That is awesome. Can't even articulate a wall of text. Such a vast improvement on anything we have... and, truthfully, even better displayed than EVE. Keep it up and we'll make EVE jealous! Note: That IS a good thing. The Black Jackal for CPM1
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1412	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:09:00 - [8] - Quote Just the fact it TELLS you that you're missing a skill to operate an item is a huge boost to the new player. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University

CCP Z C C P C C P Alliance 136	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:13:00 - [9] - Quote Quick answers: - Of course the weapons were just put there for the purpose of the screenshot - We want to make it even easier to restock your fittings, so no back and forth between fitting and Market - Regarding the skill missing: imagine now clicking on it and it opens up your skill tree so you know what to upgrade to get it Monetization and Progression Producer -CCP Z

Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1413	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:23:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Quick answers: - Of course the weapons were just put there for the purpose of the screenshot - We want to make it even easier to restock your fittings, so no back and forth between fitting and Market - Regarding the skill missing: imagine now clicking on it and it opens up your skill tree so you know what to upgrade to get it Awesome. So I take it that along the top we have Mail, Progression, Map, Market, Dropsuit Fittings, Vehicle Fittings, Settings, SP, ISK and AUR. chat windows along the bottom as in Eve is nice. I take it that the chat windows can be moved and pinned to be visible in combat too? That would be very helpful. Scan for the salvage? I'd be very interested in how the transition between menus is handled and if information between them is highlighted and linked. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University

Keeper Ilie 1st Steps On Ground 3	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:43:00 - [11] - Quote The design is very nice! I am also curious if there will be any subtly moving parts in the background as well, just like in the station dock. Success++ P.S. I have tons of friends that would love to give Project Legion a try, the trailer with the boarding of that ship was intensely awesome.
Vaerana Myshtana Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:44:00 - [12] - Quote Neat! This has been one of the big things that was missing to me. That and AV that works (WP for damage is a huge improvement!). I realize that this is a first pass. I think it can filter by item. Is it just a drop-down? That's kinda cool. Ending soon? Is it eBay? I realize that sell orders typically have an expiration date, is the default going to be long? Or is the Dust market going to default to something short like a few days? Overall, first pass looks awesome! So, are we going to be boarding ships next?
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 372	Posted - 2014.06.24 11:30:00 - [13] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: So this is what you guys have been busy working on ;D My initial reaction when I saw this was "Woah, look at all the pretty colors!" Seriously, in the current Dust market it's very blue...and more blue I know that a lot of other players really like the idea of a player-market, but it's one of the things that has kept me away from playing EVE. FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. I really hope that even though we won't be able to buy thousands of weapons from a NPC market, there will still be a simplistic way to restock items (like you currently can on the fitting screen) without having to go into the market to buy and sell. That said, this is great stuff and I seriously can't wait to see more of it in the future. Keep it up! sure you could buy everything the simple way... blindy buying from the "lowest" seller. theres an option for that. problem for you is you dont know if the seller is marking up his prices. 10k isk for a rail rifle from a guy in some station, in a solar system, in a particular region sounds great. but theres a guy in a different station in another region selling the same item for 100 isk. people get ripped off every day in eve.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3747	Posted - 2014.06.24 11:42:00 - [14] - Quote That is a sexy, sexy first iteration. Thank you for posting it! CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 296	Posted - 2014.06.24 11:58:00 - [15] - Quote +1 Great work Z! Edit: And "installations" are?
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3181	Posted - 2014.06.24 12:05:00 - [16] - Quote Jaw Floor. I was about to make a big angry rant on how the comms had stopped and then ccp Z did this. Well god dam legion might be worth investing in. Btw by sell orders, does that mean if ones inclined we could snap up all items of a type of rifle and then relist them? and or go im buying 100 rare sniper rifles at 1isk and wait for the order to complete? "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3181	Posted - 2014.06.24 12:09:00 - [17] - Quote Omg skill missing and fittings requirements is that live to your dropsuit? So u can see if its worth buying? "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 1261	Posted - 2014.06.24 12:40:00 - [18] - Quote Will a compare feature be coming? will the weapon show how your skills effect it? Those 2 questions were the biggest thing missing from 514. The ability to quickly see how your skills effect an item and how it compares to what you have equipped on a suit. I should not have to buy it to have to compare it. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3230	Posted - 2014.06.24 12:58:00 - [19] - Quote Oh myyyy, that looks incredible. Great looking UI. I do have a question regarding buy and sell orders. Are those being physically delivered by Eve bros or assembled at our location in space? I see a timer widget next to some of those ISK figures. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
I-Shayz-I Sanmatar Kelkoons 3767	Posted - 2014.06.24 12:58:00 - [20] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Edit: And "installations" are? A thing that has been in the marketplace and the deployment menu since the beta -_- 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2757	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:00:00 - [21] - Quote Very very nice, CCP Z. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Jadek Menaheim Ancient Textiles. 3230	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:00:00 - [22] - Quote Also I see AUR is represented in that mockup. Can you comment to its possible use in Legion. Where does you CPM 1 Candidate Stand? Visit the Super P.A.C Contribution Log
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 807	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:12:00 - [23] - Quote Nice, thanxx )) Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1008	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:27:00 - [24] - Quote Suck it, EVE.
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 147	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:39:00 - [25] - Quote I'm Captain Crutches and I approve this message. Loving the mockup, it really looks great and much more functional than the current Dust market. I especially like the location display in the top left - as much as you guys (understandably) don't want Legion to be Eve, the added immersion from having at least some things like that be similar or identical is really great IMO. We want to feel like we're part of New Eden, both in terms of gameplay and interface... but that doesn't mean we can't have some improvements~ Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Senator Snipe Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 149	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:47:00 - [26] - Quote we have lots of rare items we don't use that other people would find useful. Is there a trading option? My forge skills are unmatchable
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 807	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:08:00 - [27] - Quote Hmmm, "Player Name Here"? What is it? )))) Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 297	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:29:00 - [28] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Edit: And "installations" are? A thing that has been in the marketplace and the deployment menu since the beta -_- I know, but it has always been empty (as far as I know).
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2757	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:37:00 - [29] - Quote It's still not called a Plasma Rifle though? I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 772	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:53:00 - [30] - Quote Does this mean we don't have to wait 30 secs before we can restock our fits too? "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.

Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1446	Posted - 2014.06.24 15:10:00 - [31] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Edit: And "installations" are? A thing that has been in the marketplace and the deployment menu since the beta -_- I know, but it has always been empty (as far as I know). Installations are things like turrets CRUs and supply depots. The idea was that you'd call them in via the call in menu and place them similarly to OBs though i'm pretty sure they never got it work that way in dust. You'd obviously have to buy them and that's why the tab exists in the market. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2136	Posted - 2014.06.24 15:24:00 - [32] - Quote Brush Master wrote: Will a compare feature be coming? will the weapon show how your skills effect it? Those 2 questions were the biggest thing missing from 514. The ability to quickly see how your skills effect an item and how it compares to what you have equipped on a suit. I should not have to buy it to have to compare it. Great points, Brush Master. Both features have a high practical utility and add to the gameplay experience considerably. They are also both fantastic self-learning tools: with these features players struggling with wrapping their heads around the skills/fitting systems in Legion will learn a lot in the market window via direct hands-on interaction. That's worth hours of interactive tutorial right there. PSN: RationalSpark
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2136	Posted - 2014.06.24 15:31:00 - [33] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Does this mean we don't have to wait 30 secs before we can restock our fits too? ^ +1 Hakyou. Also important to the player experience: Will Legion suffer from the same db access issues? Changing platform won't affect the source of the current latencies we experience in DUST when trying to load team/match lists or contact lists etc. What is the cause of menu lag in DUST anyway and how will Legion resolve it? PSN: RationalSpark
Oceltot Mortalis 7	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:03:00 - [34] - Quote I like this a lot. I hope that there is a way to make the list compact, no pictures so we can see more if we need to. Pro's choice. and also to filter to only plasma or rail or scram or combat... doesn't look like it by the screen shot, only by skill requirements. for those worried, it does say plasma rifle off to the right for the factional plasma rifle... Like Brush Master mentioned, a comparison tool is a MUST! If CCP truly wants to limit flipping between pages, this is one of the major offenders of this. Please make this happen! :) Also like he mentioned, if we "Show Info" on a module in the fitting screen that is installed on a drop suit, we should see the stats with the dropsuit and skill bonuses applied. A little off topic there, BUT to make it more relative, if you could implement a second column of numbers that apply to our current dropsuit and skill bonuses that are highlighted..... 10/10 would send love letters to the dev that implemented it... :D In life, I have this to regret. That too often, when I acquired ISK, I did not have enough of it. -everyone in EVE, ever
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 549	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:08:00 - [35] - Quote Gorgeous!!!!! This is so good, it should be exported to EVE Online!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3825	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:28:00 - [36] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: SFPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. I really hope that even though we won't be able to buy thousands of weapons from a NPC market, there will still be a simplistic way to restock items (like you currently can on the fitting screen) without having to go into the market to buy and sell. I think there should be a restock option with preset default settings which you can change. These settings would allow the Restock to automatically buy the items in your fit at the best available price, but pop up a warning message if any of the items are more than 10% above mean market price. Mean market price should be a running stat based on the previous 30 days of market sales. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5910	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:49:00 - [37] - Quote Niiiice Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Severus Smith Caldari State 546	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:09:00 - [38] - Quote I noticed under weapons you have Light, Medium and Heavy. Is this just an oversight in the UI mockup or are we getting Medium weapons (which would probably fix a lot of current balance issues).
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 148	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:13:00 - [39] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: I noticed under weapons you have Light, Medium and Heavy. Is this just an oversight in the UI mockup or are we getting Medium weapons (which would probably fix a lot of current balance issues). Maybe sidearms are becoming light and lights are becoming medium? Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8805	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:48:00 - [40] - Quote Captain Crutches wrote: Severus Smith wrote: I noticed under weapons you have Light, Medium and Heavy. Is this just an oversight in the UI mockup or are we getting Medium weapons (which would probably fix a lot of current balance issues). Maybe sidearms are becoming light and lights are becoming medium? Not according to the screenshot. The Plasma Rifle is still listed under Light Weapons. This might mean we're getting whole new weapons (hey I can still dream). On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 148	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:56:00 - [41] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Captain Crutches wrote: Severus Smith wrote: I noticed under weapons you have Light, Medium and Heavy. Is this just an oversight in the UI mockup or are we getting Medium weapons (which would probably fix a lot of current balance issues). Maybe sidearms are becoming light and lights are becoming medium? Not according to the screenshot. The Plasma Rifle is still listed under Light Weapons. This might mean we're getting whole new weapons (hey I can still dream). Ah, indeed, I didn't notice that Light was selected, I just noticed that Sidearm wasn't listed. Z did say "screenshot", not "mockup", which means this is what's actually in the build right now (presumably)... so where are the sidearms? Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 550	Posted - 2014.06.24 18:01:00 - [42] - Quote Filter - Ending Soon Is this a gorgeous Auction House or a proper Market?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8805	Posted - 2014.06.24 18:11:00 - [43] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Filter - Ending Soon Is this a gorgeous Auction House or a proper Market? Look at the title. It's the market. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 550	Posted - 2014.06.24 18:22:00 - [44] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Filter - Ending Soon Is this a gorgeous Auction House or a proper Market? Look at the title. It's the market. This is a market. This is another market. This is an auction house. This is another auction house If i only auction salvaged items, it means there is no industry. If there is no industry, there-¦s probably only kill missions and kill modes. No economic warfare. No logistical warfare, only pew pew pew against drones, pew pew pew against each other, and selling weapons to each other. What-¦s the range of the sales? Does it need transportation from a place to another? Can gank someone on the way and take their items or it-¦s magically "soulbounded" until it is used on the ground? Can i buy all items in a system about to become hostile and deprive my enemies of equipment? That-¦s the differenec between a Market and an Auction House (Gooooooooorgeous as it is)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8805	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:13:00 - [45] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Filter - Ending Soon Is this a gorgeous Auction House or a proper Market? Look at the title. It's the market. This is a market. This is another market. This is an auction house. This is another auction house If i only auction salvaged items, it means there is no industry. If there is no industry, there-¦s probably only kill missions and kill modes. No economic warfare. No logistical warfare, only pew pew pew against drones, pew pew pew against each other, and selling weapons to each other. What-¦s the range of the sales? Does it need transportation from a place to another? Can gank someone on the way and take their items or it-¦s magically "soulbounded" until it is used on the ground? Can i buy all items in a system about to become hostile and deprive my enemies of equipment? That-¦s the differenec between a Market and an Auction House (Gooooooooorgeous as it is) Whether it's called a secondary market or the auction house, it makes no difference to me. As an Eve Online player of 6 years and an experienced market tycoon who can post hundreds of orders at once, the market and contracts consist overwhelmingly of looted, second-hand, or player-manufactured goods. So no matter where you go, whether it's to the contract window or the secondary market, it's still one and the same to me in New Eden. Of course Legion doesn't have industry of its own. But if the game gets the green light, it will likely have industry in the form of harvesting materials in some way. Eve players are then likely to be given control of manufacturing the goods and then then sell them to Legionaries when they're ready. But that will take a long time to achieve. In the meantime, what we see now is better than nothing. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Syeven Reed G0DS AM0NG MEN 709	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:41:00 - [46] - Quote Looking good! Will more category's coming under, "Light" etc? e.g. Assault Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle. There will be to much information to look through otherwise. Twitter MajLagSpike CPM Application
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3181	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:41:00 - [47] - Quote an auction house is a single warehouse, a market is a number of auction houses close together :\| "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8805	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:52:00 - [48] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: an auction house is a single warehouse, a market is a number of auction houses close together :\| Practically summed it up nicely. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 551	Posted - 2014.06.24 20:49:00 - [49] - Quote Just want to know if it-¦s a pretty UI or if i can prey on the transportation of items from point A to point B of the market (not the salvage area), and if it-¦s an universal auction house where the entire universe can buy a thing that i looted in one spot.
Bat Shard0 Stardust Incorporation 63	Posted - 2014.06.24 21:31:00 - [50] - Quote It would be nice to put under the name of the gun some basic data like rate of fire, clips size, dps for guns, or Shield/Armor hit points for dropsuits. I understand every data is in FITTING(down right), but as I say some basic and most important data can be placed for quick comparison betwin different items http://dust514news.blogspot.com/

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8805	Posted - 2014.06.24 21:53:00 - [51] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Just want to know if it-¦s a pretty UI or if i can prey on the transportation of items from point A to point B of the market (not the salvage area), and if it-¦s an universal auction house where the entire universe can buy a thing that i looted in one spot. It might start off like a universal auction/market for Legionaries just for simplicity sake since none of us here can figure out a practical means of transporting market commodities across an entire galaxy like Eve players do in a FPS setting. Hopefully Legion would evolve to allow Eve-like auction/markets where players really have to move them to get things done. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Skylight Atoma The Phoenix Federation Dark Taboo 11	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:00:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Quick answers: - Of course the weapons were just put there for the purpose of the screenshot - We want to make it even easier to restock your fittings, so no back and forth between fitting and Market - Regarding the skill missing: imagine now clicking on it and it opens up your skill tree so you know what to upgrade to get it I posted in another thread talking about the menus in Legion, and one thing I think will be useful is tooltips, pretty much everywhere. Here's the link, the tooltip part is at the very top. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2202650#post2202650 In this case, it would be nice to have a tooltip over the "Skill Missing" thing that shows you what skill it is you're missing instead of -requiring- to go to the skill tree to view the missing skill. I'm also assuming that the specific weapon types (in this case assault rifle was selected) will have another sub category show up on that menu on the left instead of in the center where the items are. The fitting resources window is great. Having a compare option for 2 items would be nice, and have it be able to go between market sub groups. Otherwise it looks very nice!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8805	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:13:00 - [53] - Quote Question: Have you finally separated the suits into their own respective races? As it stands right now, Dust 514 has all of the racial suits bunched together in many places making it look unprofessional when it comes to how the market is presented. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3061	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:15:00 - [54] - Quote Looks good cosmetically. Looking forward to seeing how it works functionally (organization and features and such).
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2138	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:17:00 - [55] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Just want to know if it-¦s a pretty UI or if i can prey on the transportation of items from point A to point B of the market (not the salvage area), and if it-¦s an universal auction house where the entire universe can buy a thing that i looted in one spot. Important questions. What we really need to resolve is the physicality, storage, production, destruction and origin of items in Legion. We speculated a lot on the DUST forums but to my knowledge CCP never naild down exactly what was going on with physical items and consciousness transfer. For my money the only thing that makes any sense at all is point-of-use nanomanufacturing. PSN: RationalSpark
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2138	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:20:00 - [56] - Quote Bat Shard0 wrote: It would be nice to put under the name of the gun some basic data like rate of fire, clips size, dps for guns, or Shield/Armor hit points for dropsuits. I understand every data is in FITTING(down right), but as I say some basic and most important data can be placed for quick comparison betwin different items As a basic design principle, all item data should be accessible from any screen that lists that item. Contextual cascading tooltip windows or something better. Worst case would be a mouse click to access item info. PSN: RationalSpark
byte modal 107	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:56:00 - [57] - Quote Looks good. Thanks for the post and update. To Natu: I'm not sure how it could be anything but a single universal AH or independent regional market hubs. Personally I never expected nor assumed that DUST/Legion characters would have access to destination travel (EVE warp gates) to even open the door of possibility to pirate other characters en route to whatever AH location(s) exist. Sure, at or to and from salvage zones, but not really through space-based travel. I honestly imagine it's just an access point in your merc quarters to buy and sell, and that be that. That would be the cleanest and fastest path I would guess. If that's the general idea, then I would love some type of filter system to view other regional markets so that if I wanted to play the numbers game, I could---to a degree. Just select a region and determine whether or not it's more profitable to put in sell orders here or there or wherever. Keep restrictions of distance from your home system to skills maybe like in EVE, but more generic. I doubt we're going to be trading pure ore or much of anything EVE-side except for our own game-useable items any time soon, so yeah, simplifying trade makes sense I guess. It would be faster and fairly open across the universe as compared to EVE, but that may not be a bad thing. Assuming we are only really able to trade what we have access to, we won't overlap EVE commodities, just sharing the market space through a streamlined access point. Again, I assume that I'm not going to be able to buy Kestrels, but being able to maybe SEE Kestrels on the market along side my own Legion gear would feel pretty immersive. That may even lead to more cross-over players due to curiosity of what all this new stuff that I can't buy is. We're not going to affect the EVE market much at all I imagine, so why not let our trades be faster and a bit more accessible than EVE's. Baby steps and all until one day maybe I can buy a Kestrel... Hm. Maybe I'm making stuff up here, but I think I remember reading character clone transfer discussions in MC Peanut's post a while back from one location to another. Seemed instantaneous to me, just with a transitional visual sequence maybe. With that assumption as a basis, would then all of our inventory travel with us to access for use or trade in other regions? My point is I doubt we would be able to pirate each other beyond ground-game. Of course being stuck keeping things within a system or region, I'm curious what impact if any EVE capsulers will play. IF the markets integrate, what would stop an EVE pilot from severely undercutting or price-gouging system-/region-bound Legion markets? If the Legion marketeer is unable to transport inventory to another trade hub to escape EVE player manipulation, what happens? Back to the idea in the first two paragraphs... Eh, I'm rambling again. =( TLDR: Nice samples. Thanks. + incoherent ramblings on my part. meow =^.^= - me. Irony: Post #35
Grimmiers 596	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:18:00 - [58] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: It's still not called a Plasma Rifle though? The gun that requires a skills to get is called a plasma rifle. It's a mockup. I think for refitting your gear if you could implement a system where we can place a sell order for everything that needs to restocked it will make the process a lot easier. Basically the smart restock option that places multiply sell orders on the market. I also want to know if players will be able to set an aurum price on weapons. I imagine some people would buy officer gear for aurum.
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:32:00 - [59] - Quote Wasn-¦t even talking about an integrated market with EVE because it-¦s definetly not happening for a long time. Was more of a curiosity if there would be Legion only base items to manufacture Legion only equipment, and how the location/transportation of items would work. Wasn-¦t even giving a timeframe, at launch it has to go babysteps, just wondered if down the road there were plans to more than "just shooting, dying, grinding for equip, paying for equip, just shooting again"
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8806	Posted - 2014.06.25 00:30:00 - [60] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Wasn-¦t even talking about an integrated market with EVE because it-¦s definetly not happening for a long time. Was more of a curiosity if there would be Legion only base items to manufacture Legion only equipment, and how the location/transportation of items would work. Wasn-¦t even giving a timeframe, at launch it has to go babysteps, just wondered if down the road there were plans to more than "just shooting, dying, grinding for equip, paying for equip, just shooting again" Eventually there will have to be a point where people in Legion will want to do more than just shoot. Even right now, some of us like me would one day like to earn a living trading in the Legion market while I go shoot somewhere. Or perhaps just hang out in the local colonies or districts and have a drink with my D-UNI friends as we watch over the refining facilities talking about how Jita will burn again. Or better yet, explore the open plains looking for new sources of materials for our war effort. Of course, as we all know, baby steps. I know I won't see something like this for maybe at least 3-5 years. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:22:00 - [61] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Wasn-¦t even talking about an integrated market with EVE because it-¦s definetly not happening for a long time. Was more of a curiosity if there would be Legion only base items to manufacture Legion only equipment, and how the location/transportation of items would work. Wasn-¦t even giving a timeframe, at launch it has to go babysteps, just wondered if down the road there were plans to more than "just shooting, dying, grinding for equip, paying for equip, just shooting again" Eventually there will have to be a point where people in Legion will want to do more than just shoot. Even right now, some of us like me would one day like to earn a living trading in the Legion market while I go shoot somewhere. Or perhaps just hang out in the local colonies or districts and have a drink with my D-UNI friends as we watch over the refining facilities talking about how Jita will burn again. Or better yet, explore the open plains looking for new sources of materials for our war effort. Of course, as we all know, baby steps. I know I won't see something like this for maybe at least 3-5 years. I-¦ve been playing since 2012 , i was expecting 3-4 years back then, not 3-5 now. But, meh. Still looking foward to, willl buy a new pc as soon as something juicy is presented.
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 843	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:26:00 - [62] - Quote Looking good. What are medium weapons? Medium frame EHP is not medium
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11141	Posted - 2014.06.25 02:26:00 - [63] - Quote I see Installations in that Market............ does this mean we will actually get them?! " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 372	Posted - 2014.06.25 04:30:00 - [64] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Looking good. What are medium weapons? This
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1452	Posted - 2014.06.25 05:37:00 - [65] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: medomai grey wrote: Looking good. What are medium weapons? This Placeholders. Really guys, the subject is market, not itemization. Don't read too much into specific content. He wouldn't tell us yet anyway. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 218	Posted - 2014.06.25 07:19:00 - [66] - Quote SCREENSHOOTS!!! I gave Planetside 2 a try, and its menues are frankly butt-ugly and confusing. This here on the other hand looks pretty promising. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3825	Posted - 2014.06.25 11:16:00 - [67] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Quick answers: - Of course the weapons were just put there for the purpose of the screenshot - We want to make it even easier to restock your fittings, so no back and forth between fitting and Market - Regarding the skill missing: imagine now clicking on it and it opens up your skill tree so you know what to upgrade to get it Love to see you working on something that allows us all to slap you on the back and say GÇ£Good Job Z!GÇ¥ Progression was a challenging, complex and sensitive subject, where serious debate was needed, but since it was your first interaction with the community I worried that you might feel a bit beat up having to deal with us on such a controversial subject. So it feels nice to respond to you with GÇ£cool!, and what if...GÇ¥ instead of GÇ£yeah, but...GÇ¥. It is nice to see you getting some love from the community. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3825	Posted - 2014.06.25 11:32:00 - [68] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: So this is what you guys have been busy working on ;D My initial reaction when I saw this was "Woah, look at all the pretty colors!" Seriously, in the current Dust market it's very blue...and more blue I know that a lot of other players really like the idea of a player-market, but it's one of the things that has kept me away from playing EVE. FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. I really hope that even though we won't be able to buy thousands of weapons from a NPC market, there will still be a simplistic way to restock items (like you currently can on the fitting screen) without having to go into the market to buy and sell. That said, this is great stuff and I seriously can't wait to see more of it in the future. Keep it up! sure you could buy everything the simple way... blindy buying from the "lowest" seller. theres an option for that. problem for you is you dont know if the seller is marking up his prices. 10k isk for a rail rifle from a guy in some station, in a solar system, in a particular region sounds great. but theres a guy in a different station in another region selling the same item for 100 isk. people get ripped off every day in eve. I think it will be a choice between connivance and savings. Those who do it the easy way will end up paying more in the long run, but they donGÇÖt have to waste time doing stuff they consider boring, and can spend more time doing fun stuff like shooting people in the face. These will also be the people who sell to whatever GÇ£Buy OrderGÇ¥ is up to offload their stuff, rather than waisting time on the market trying to get full price. Those are the people who will make it profitable for you to play the markets if playing the markets is what is fun for you. (I often enjoy it.) If you know what the going price is on something, and you can scan the markets and spot people selling that item for less than market value, then you can snatch it up. This will allow you to keep your fits stocked for much less ISK, or allow you to resell the item (to the people mentioned above) at a profit. It is a win for the guy who does not want to bother with that complicated stuff and just wants to shoot people in the face. It is a win for the guy who likes to play the market and get rich. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3826	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:18:00 - [69] - Quote byte modal wrote: Hm. Maybe I'm making stuff up here, but I think I remember reading character clone transfer discussions in MC Peanut's post a while back from one location to another. Seemed instantaneous to me, just with a transitional visual sequence maybe. With that assumption as a basis, would then all of our inventory travel with us to access for use or trade in other regions? My point is I doubt we would be able to pirate each other beyond ground-game. We travel nearly instantly because we are transmitted as data and downloaded into a clone in another location. Our stuff canGÇÖt travel instantly unless it to travels as data. I proposed a Digital Token system in the Salvage thread which would cover the logistics of how this could work. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3826	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:30:00 - [70] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Wasn-¦t even talking about an integrated market with EVE because it-¦s definetly not happening for a long time. Was more of a curiosity if there would be Legion only base items to manufacture Legion only equipment, and how the location/transportation of items would work. Wasn-¦t even giving a timeframe, at launch it has to go babysteps, just wondered if down the road there were plans to more than "just shooting, dying, grinding for equip, paying for equip, just shooting again" Eventually there will have to be a point where people in Legion will want to do more than just shoot. Even right now, some of us like me would one day like to earn a living trading in the Legion market while I go shoot somewhere. Or perhaps just hang out in the local colonies or districts and have a drink with my D-UNI friends as we watch over the refining facilities talking about how Jita will burn again. Or better yet, explore the open plains looking for new sources of materials for our war effort. Of course, as we all know, baby steps. I know I won't see something like this for maybe at least 3-5 years. I-¦ve been playing since 2012 , i was expecting 3-4 years back then, not 3-5 now. But, meh. Still looking foward to, willl buy a new pc as soon as something juicy is presented. CCP is learning from its mistakes with DUST. That is why the player to player market will be part of Legion from the beginning. It is also being designed as part of the EVE market, although the crossover may be restricted. Integrating the EVE/Legion market will just be a matter of removing restrictions, rather than programing new links. As to manufacturing, if their is sufficient interest from the players in manufacturing, then I expect will will eventually get what we ask for. CCP has said there will be no manufacturing at launch, but they have also said that some of the manufacturing proposals are interesting, so I think they are getting some ideas from the Community, and if interest continues to be strong, they will likely incorporate manufacturing in one of the earlier expansions. With a Player to Player market already in place, adding manufacturing will be easier. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:52:00 - [71] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: We travel nearly instantly because we are transmitted as data and downloaded into a clone in another location. Our stuff canGÇÖt travel instantly unless it to travels as data. I proposed a Digital Token system in the Salvage thread which would cover the logistics of how this could work. How do i steal your digital tokens?
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.25 12:55:00 - [72] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: CCP is learning from its mistakes with DUST. That is why the player to player market will be part of Legion from the beginning. It is also being designed as part of the EVE market, although the crossover may be restricted. Integrating the EVE/Legion market will just be a matter of removing restrictions, rather than programing new links. As to manufacturing, if their is sufficient interest from the players in manufacturing, then I expect will will eventually get what we ask for. CCP has said there will be no manufacturing at launch, but they have also said that some of the manufacturing proposals are interesting, so I think they are getting some ideas from the Community, and if interest continues to be strong, they will likely incorporate manufacturing in one of the earlier expansions. With a Player to Player market already in place, adding manufacturing will be easier. With unlimited suits and a monetization plan around salvaged items, i don-¦t see much space for manufacturing as an activity. Some sort of "blacksmith" to "enhance" weapons with gemstones in wich slots are bought with chance based aurum stuff i can envision, but manufacturing as an activity, based on the premise of "Class" with unlimited suits? Nope.
Oceltot Mortalis 9	Posted - 2014.06.25 13:04:00 - [73] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: I noticed under weapons you have Light, Medium and Heavy. Is this just an oversight in the UI mockup or are we getting Medium weapons (which would probably fix a lot of current balance issues). I too want clarification from a dev, nay, I demand it! In life, I have this to regret. That too often, when I acquired ISK, I did not have enough of it. -everyone in EVE, ever
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3064	Posted - 2014.06.25 13:21:00 - [74] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: How do i steal your digital tokens? You don't. You can steal the items before they are converted into tokens, but once that character leaves the planet they were salvaging, the items would be safe. It makes sense to do it in this manner, as there is no travel between planets for Legion players. Natu Nobilis wrote: With unlimited suits and a monetization plan around salvaged items, i don-¦t see much space for manufacturing as an activity. Some sort of "blacksmith" to "enhance" weapons with gemstones in wich slots are bought with chance based aurum stuff i can envision, but manufacturing as an activity, based on the premise of "Class" with unlimited suits? Nope. It would be very easily to add in a manufacturing system similar to manufactuing rigs in EVE. You could break modules down into basic components and/or salvage basic components along with modules and manufacture new modules from blueprints with a bill of materials requiring those ingredients. It wouldn't have to be in at launch either. You could quite easily add in the ability to create items after the fact without a problem. It also keeps Legions economy naturally isolated from EVE's. No worrying about an EVE player with a dedicated mining operation building thousands of suits and modules for virtually free with the large stockpile of minerals they might be hoarding.
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.25 13:36:00 - [75] - Quote @ZDub 303 Exactly, we don-¦t steal. No major thefts news, no need to worry about the integrity of your group, no need to organize, delegate, manage, fiscalize, control, audit, TRUST. How can treason happen if there-¦s no component for trust? There seems to be no reason to organize together so far. What-¦s the worst that could happen if i play alone, die to an npc? My suit will be there, so fack it, i get a +1 "common" stick and kill low level drones unitl i can cash in a "uncommon" stick. The biggest fear is simply "who-¦s at the same instance as me?" I get the same feeling in WoW when the warrior decides to grab the mage loot at the end of the raid. "Ohhhhh, the treason! That staff was mine, you random group person!"
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3828	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:25:00 - [76] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: CCP is learning from its mistakes with DUST. That is why the player to player market will be part of Legion from the beginning. It is also being designed as part of the EVE market, although the crossover may be restricted. Integrating the EVE/Legion market will just be a matter of removing restrictions, rather than programing new links. As to manufacturing, if their is sufficient interest from the players in manufacturing, then I expect will will eventually get what we ask for. CCP has said there will be no manufacturing at launch, but they have also said that some of the manufacturing proposals are interesting, so I think they are getting some ideas from the Community, and if interest continues to be strong, they will likely incorporate manufacturing in one of the earlier expansions. With a Player to Player market already in place, adding manufacturing will be easier. With unlimited suits and a monetization plan around salvaged items, i don-¦t see much space for manufacturing as an activity. Some sort of "blacksmith" to "enhance" weapons with gemstones in wich slots are bought with chance based aurum stuff i can envision, but manufacturing as an activity, based on the premise of "Class" with unlimited suits? Nope. First of all, the suit coast has simply been collapsed into the clone cost, so that it is the Corporation rather than the Mercenary that pays for it. So it is not technically free. It is just free from the playerGÇÖs perspective. You may see a cost for suits when you get into Planetary Conquest logistics. (Original meaning of the term GÇ£logisticsGÇ¥, not a synonym for healer.) As for manufacturing, I would start with Drones and Vehicles, where you can salvage components, and then assemble them to make a new Drone or vehicle. Say you salvage a HAV tread (you need 4 of them for the HAVGÇÖs we have now), you can sell it on the market as a part. A manufacturer can buy a Caldari HAV body, 4 treads, a turret mount, a power generator, a medium computer system, an engine, wiring harnesses, drive train, and control modules; put them all together and produce a Caldari HAV. Have additional rare components for vehicle variants. You could also give EVE players the ability to manufacture these components, so you could have two sources: Salvage, and EVE Manufacturing. If the drop rate on Salvage is lower than the demand, then there would still be plenty of room for EVE manufacturers to make a profit. On another note, when you make WOW references without translating the lore it sounds stupid. Magic gemstones makes sense in WOW lore, but in New Eden you would need auxiliary systems and system modifications to do the same thing. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Olomo Daygon ZionTCD Top Men. 35	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:32:00 - [77] - Quote AWESOME! THIS CCP! I'm so glad yall are moving closer to getting Legion Greenlit!! Thi s is the game I always wanted!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3828	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:46:00 - [78] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: We travel nearly instantly because we are transmitted as data and downloaded into a clone in another location. Our stuff canGÇÖt travel instantly unless it to travels as data. I proposed a Digital Token system in the Salvage thread which would cover the logistics of how this could work. How do i steal your digital tokens? 1) You could acquire Digital Tokens through scams and fraud. 2) You could steel the item, and the owner of the item would have to wright it off as a loss, just as if it was lost in battle. Then you could turn the item in as salvage to get a Digital Token for it. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3828	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:50:00 - [79] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: How do i steal your digital tokens? You don't. You can steal the items before they are converted into tokens, but once that character leaves the planet they were salvaging, the items would be safe. It makes sense to do it in this manner, as there is no travel between planets for Legion players. Natu Nobilis wrote: With unlimited suits and a monetization plan around salvaged items, i don-¦t see much space for manufacturing as an activity. Some sort of "blacksmith" to "enhance" weapons with gemstones in wich slots are bought with chance based aurum stuff i can envision, but manufacturing as an activity, based on the premise of "Class" with unlimited suits? Nope. It would be very easily to add in a manufacturing system similar to manufactuing rigs in EVE. You could break modules down into basic components and/or salvage basic components along with modules and manufacture new modules from blueprints with a bill of materials requiring those ingredients. It wouldn't have to be in at launch either. You could quite easily add in the ability to create items after the fact without a problem. It also keeps Legions economy naturally isolated from EVE's. No worrying about an EVE player with a dedicated mining operation building thousands of suits and modules for virtually free with the large stockpile of minerals they might be hoarding. Yes, all they would have to do is reduce the drop rate on fully intact items, when they introduce salvaging of components. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3828	Posted - 2014.06.25 14:58:00 - [80] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: @ZDub 303 Exactly, we don-¦t steal. No major thefts news, no need to worry about the integrity of your group, no need to organize, delegate, manage, fiscalize, control, audit, TRUST. How can treason happen if there-¦s no component for trust? There seems to be no reason to organize together so far. What-¦s the worst that could happen if i play alone, die to an npc? My suit will be there, so fack it, i get a +1 "common" stick and kill low level drones unitl i can cash in a "uncommon" stick. The biggest fear is simply "who-¦s at the same instance as me?" I get the same feeling in WoW when the warrior decides to grab the mage loot at the end of the raid. "Ohhhhh, the treason! That staff was mine, you random group person!" The acquisition, transport, and distribution of the physical items such as weapons is the responsibility of the Corporation that runs the War Barge. There is no NPC Corporations in Planetary Conquest. Player Corporation run conflicts are where the large newsworthy heists will happen. The Digital Token system moves the responsibility of item transport from the individual to the Corporation. But an individual with an EVE contact willing to move the goods, can still steel items from a Player Corporation, and then turn those items in as Salvage. The Player Corporation will have to buy new Digital Tokens in order to restock. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.25 15:26:00 - [81] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: 1) You could acquire Digital Tokens through scams and fraud. 2) You could steel the item, and the owner of the item would have to wright it off as a loss, just as if it was lost in battle. Then you could turn the item in as salvage to get a Digital Token for it. (Edit, think raiding the armory in another Corp's district. ) If a digital token is only a way of transportation of items, how do i fraud or scam someone? That i can steal items on the ground it-¦s already the game mechanic, but once they-¦re converted, they-¦re "imune" until being on the ground again. Is it an item? Do i have it attached to the warbarge? If i destroy a warbarge, does it drop the digital tokens like Sonic? What exactly IS a DT besides a conversion unit? Fox Gaden wrote: Yes, all they would have to do is reduce the drop rate on fully intact items, when they introduce salvaging of components. Nothing that i-¦ve seen so far goes in this way, that-¦-¦s why i-¦m concerned about the manufacture effort.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 372	Posted - 2014.06.25 15:36:00 - [82] - Quote Wait, hold up: how are we to get skillbooks if there's no NPC seeding?
Natu Nobilis DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 553	Posted - 2014.06.25 15:42:00 - [83] - Quote Why would you think somehting like this?
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3066	Posted - 2014.06.25 16:04:00 - [84] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: @ZDub 303 Exactly, we don-¦t steal. No major thefts news, no need to worry about the integrity of your group, no need to organize, delegate, manage, fiscalize, control, audit, TRUST. How can treason happen if there-¦s no component for trust? There seems to be no reason to organize together so far. What-¦s the worst that could happen if i play alone, die to an npc? My suit will be there, so fack it, i get a +1 "common" stick and kill low level drones unitl i can cash in a "uncommon" stick. The biggest fear is simply "who-¦s at the same instance as me?" I get the same feeling in WoW when the warrior decides to grab the mage loot at the end of the raid. "Ohhhhh, the treason! That staff was mine, you random group person!" Hm... i'm trying to formulate a response but this is all pretty much nonsense ranting about MMORPGs... could you rephrase this into a statement? Betrayal and all that is still possible. You can have a corporate hanger in Legion as well as anything else. You can also still bring in physical item transport into Legion by only allowing a certain number of stations with digital token services, thereby require EVE players to transport Legion assets between stations and planets in Low Sec.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8809	Posted - 2014.06.25 18:14:00 - [85] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Wait, hold up: how are we to get skillbooks if there's no NPC seeding? I'm guessing CCP Z is referring to weapons, vehicles and modules specifically. Skill books on the other hand are mostly NPC seeded even in Eve Online. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Captain Crutches Nexus Marines 150	Posted - 2014.06.25 19:59:00 - [86] - Quote I'd also like to echo that it's great to see Z giving us something we really like, so we can give the poor guy some positive reinforcement after that progression threadnought. :) Z's progression is the only thing about Legion that gives me doubts. The rest has me totally stoked! @CaptainCrutches
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 375	Posted - 2014.06.25 21:22:00 - [87] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Wait, hold up: how are we to get skillbooks if there's no NPC seeding? I'm guessing CCP Z is referring to weapons, vehicles and modules specifically. Skill books on the other hand are mostly NPC seeded even in Eve Online. Okay, next question: Why is it so hard to have straight up manufacturing and mining in Legion?Why does everything have to be about going pew pew at clones and rogue drones (which is a silly amount of things to shoot at)?
Kincate DUST University Ivy League 74	Posted - 2014.06.25 21:32:00 - [88] - Quote I like, I am assumeing though that the categories are place holders right? I mean will they be more specific? 1st Legionhare
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8811	Posted - 2014.06.25 21:56:00 - [89] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Wait, hold up: how are we to get skillbooks if there's no NPC seeding? I'm guessing CCP Z is referring to weapons, vehicles and modules specifically. Skill books on the other hand are mostly NPC seeded even in Eve Online. Okay, next question: Why is it so hard to have straight up manufacturing and mining in Legion?Why does everything have to be about going pew pew at clones and rogue drones (which is a silly amount of things to shoot at)? It just seems to make sense to allow Eve players to handle the production side of things while Legion players handle the harvesting side of things for one very compelling reason. Eve Online has 11 years worth of manufacturing experience. Their industry is exceedingly robust and efficient and every industrial player there knows how to best produce bulk quantities in a short amount of time to meet the demand. They have the tools, the facilities, and the skills. Legion on the other hand doesn't even have an industry to begin with except for maybe the districts one day becoming the ground work for large-scale harvesting of materials. Hell, we don't know what materials will be harvested or needed for production of the gear we need as Legionaries and we don't even have NPC production facilities for those who don't want to bother owning and managing one. So until Legion is ready for its own industry, it's just easier in the short term to let the Eve player handle the production while Legionaries deal with harvesting. Some people speculate that this will only mean that Eve players will be extorting Legionaries through pricing, but that's not going to be the case if Eve players have to one day rely on Legionaries to provide the materials needed and when the same Eve players have to deal with their own competitors who are willing to snatch up their clients. Competition ensures the prices remain reasonable. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8811	Posted - 2014.06.25 21:59:00 - [90] - Quote Kincate wrote: I like, I am assumeing though that the categories are place holders right? I mean will they be more specific? Very likely place holders. CCP Z did say that this is just the first iteration. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 376	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:35:00 - [91] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Wait, hold up: how are we to get skillbooks if there's no NPC seeding? I'm guessing CCP Z is referring to weapons, vehicles and modules specifically. Skill books on the other hand are mostly NPC seeded even in Eve Online. Okay, next question: Why is it so hard to have straight up manufacturing and mining in Legion?Why does everything have to be about going pew pew at clones and rogue drones (which is a silly amount of things to shoot at)? It just seems to make sense to allow Eve players to handle the production side of things while Legion players handle the harvesting side of things for one very compelling reason. Eve Online has 11 years worth of manufacturing experience. Their industry is exceedingly robust and efficient and every industrial player there knows how to best produce bulk quantities in a short amount of time to meet the demand. They have the tools, the facilities, and the skills. Legion on the other hand doesn't even have an industry to begin with except for maybe the districts one day becoming the ground work for large-scale harvesting of materials. Hell, we don't know what materials will be harvested or needed for production of the gear we need as Legionaries and we don't even have NPC production facilities for those who don't want to bother owning and managing one. So until Legion is ready for its own industry, it's just easier in the short term to let the Eve player handle the production while Legionaries deal with harvesting. Some people speculate that this will only mean that Eve players will be extorting Legionaries through pricing, but that's not going to be the case if Eve players have to one day rely on Legionaries to provide the materials needed and when the same Eve players have to deal with their own competitors who are willing to snatch up their clients. Competition ensures the prices remain reasonable. ...... And We can use the same person for all accounts, so by that logic, Can't someone in Legion do it as well? EDIT: I mean, as you said, we're doing the harvesting, so why are they building the stuff? IF we are in a sense the same person, why couldn't you simply plug it in yourself? What, force us to switch games to do something as silly as start a job?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8811	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:31:00 - [92] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: ...... And We can use the same person for all accounts, so by that logic, Can't someone in Legion do it as well? EDIT: I mean, as you said, we're doing the harvesting, so why are they building the stuff? IF we are in a sense the same person, why couldn't you simply plug it in yourself? What, force us to switch games to do something as silly as start a job? I guess you could say that the mere fact that Legion is not as mature as Eve is what forces us to switch games. You can ask any of the 11-year Eve vets about how life was back in 2003 for Eve and they will tell you that industry took baby steps to get to where it is. So until Legion has matured over time, manufacturing within Legion will have to wait. But to be fair to you, I will have to state that Eve Online didn't have a role model to look up to like Legion does now. Legion is looking up to Eve as the model on how things are done right and/or balanced for the part of the universe it's creating. But Eve Online didn't have that back then. There was no other game to look up to as the standard model. Eve was quite literally it's own standard. So CCP had to do a ton of adjustments, overhauls, plus trial and error in order to get Eve to where it is today. Legion on the other hand has a chance to learn from the mistakes of Eve Online and apply that to itself. But if we're going to manufacture all the gear on our own, then at least we need to answer the following first. 1. What are the various ores we can harvest? And the materials that are obtained from refining the ores? 2. What use does each material have for each gear you want to manufacture? 3. How much material and/or salvage can go into manufacturing one unit of an item? 4. What facilities do we have? 5. What about the User Interface for every step of the manufacturing cycle such as refining, researching, manufacturing, and storage? 6. What skill books can apply to manufacturing, researching and inventing? What are their bonuses? 7. Where do we acquire the blueprints? 8. How can we move the materials between systems and regions to a facility that will assemble them into an item? For 1-3, this will likely take the longest to figure out since you need to account for the variety of weapons, modules, vehicles, and installations to get this done. For 4 it seems like it has an easy answer. In the short term we can use the same manufacturing facilities as the Eve players do which are located in orbiting stations near the moons. But of course some import/export taxes will likely be imposed as you need to move those materials from the planet to the stations. Keep in mind that vast majority of the stations are orbiting the moons of the planets. And if the system your materials are located in doesn't have a station, you will need to send them via stargates to the nearest system that does have a station. For 5, the UI can be based on the new UI for industry coming for Eve Online: Crius. For 6, this will take some time to figure out as you want the skill book bonuses to be balanced out. Not sure about 7. For 8, that's a tricky one. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2674	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:12:00 - [93] - Quote CCP Z, it's not often another man gets me rock hard. Can I show you mine now?
Ku Shala The Generals 959	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:04:00 - [94] - Quote very nice I can see the market now it isn't just a blur ! look well organised too.. +5 *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* Caldari Loyalist: -Assault CK.0 -Logistics CK.0 -Sentinal CK.0 -Scout CK.0 -Commando C-1 series
lateris ablon Commando Perkone Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:09:00 - [95] - Quote I really like the fact that you have the fitting requirements in the layout upfront. Also, the use of colors to make items stands out is cool. o-0-((~Immersion through Scale-Consistency through light and shading-High detail through tessellation ~))-0-o
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8812	Posted - 2014.06.26 20:25:00 - [96] - Quote lateris ablon wrote: I really like the fact that you have the fitting requirements in the layout upfront. Also, the use of colors to make items stands out is cool. Which reminds me. What about those who are color blind? Will the market window account for that? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
M Zwei Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:06:00 - [97] - Quote would there is an option to click for checking the details (show info) for the modules?
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1456	Posted - 2014.06.27 02:29:00 - [98] - Quote M Zwei wrote: would there is an option to click for checking the details (show info) for the modules? I was noticing a distinct lack of "show info" icons as well. Having a one-click way to access all relevant stats from ideally everywhere is important when shopping and building fits. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels 50	Posted - 2014.06.27 10:31:00 - [99] - Quote Will project legion allow us too board jita stations and slaughter EvE pilots and confiscate there stuff?
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2936	Posted - 2014.06.27 11:04:00 - [100] - Quote Hot damn that is a nice looking market. A few things probably more personal taste than problematic. 1) Personally I would prefer 50,000 ISK over +¦50,000 2) Would it be possible to create a Pop-up list that does an intial filter? Weapons ^ Heavy Weapons ^ Light Weapons >>>>> Rifles >>>>>>>>>Blaster Rifles >>>>>>>>>Combat Rifles >>>>>>>>>Scrambler Rifles >>>>>>>>>Rail Rifles >>>>>Shotguns >>>>>Launchers Etc? My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 381	Posted - 2014.06.28 03:49:00 - [101] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Hot damn that is a nice looking market. A few things probably more personal taste than problematic. 1) Personally I would prefer 50,000 ISK over +¦50,000 2) Would it be possible to create a Pop-up list that does an intial filter? Weapons ^ Heavy Weapons ^ Light Weapons >>>>> Rifles >>>>>>>>>Plasma Rifles >>>>>>>>>Combat Rifles >>>>>>>>>Scrambler Rifles >>>>>>>>>Rail Rifles >>>>>Shotguns >>>>>Launchers Etc? Fixed. Stop calling it the wrong name.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 381	Posted - 2014.06.28 03:50:00 - [102] - Quote The Lion ElJonson wrote: Will project legion allow us too board jita stations and slaughter EvE pilots and confiscate there stuff? That will never happen. At all.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 381	Posted - 2014.06.28 04:18:00 - [103] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: 1. What are the various ores we can harvest? And the materials that are obtained from refining the ores? 2. What use does each material have for each gear you want to manufacture? 3. How much material and/or salvage can go into manufacturing one unit of an item? 4. What facilities do we have? 5. What about the User Interface for every step of the manufacturing cycle such as refining, researching, manufacturing, and storage? 6. What skill books can apply to manufacturing, researching and inventing? What are their bonuses? 7. Where do we acquire the blueprints? 8. How can we move the materials between systems and regions to a facility that will assemble them into an item? For 1-3, this will likely take the longest to figure out since you need to account for the variety of weapons, modules, vehicles, and installations to get this done. For 6, this will take some time to figure out as you want the skill book bonuses to be balanced out. Not sure about 7. For 8, that's a tricky one. And This is the actual problem. Now, I can't say I know exactly the right answer as far as the skills and timers/numbers go, so honestly, I won't even try on that (leave it to the economist to handle). You answered 4 and 5 as I would, so I won't cover those. That leaves 7 and 8, which I think I have an idea of: 7: Well, for 7, I say that it works just like EVE's BPO's (minus the skin BPO's, which I really think should be BPO's, not like EVE's where it's just BPC's, which kinda makes sense, as those ships are for showing off and PVE and such, where ships last a long time, versus here, where we'll die easily). That NPC's sometimes seeds BPO's to the market, in which people buys, uses, levels, and eventually sells as a better BPO through contracts (oh, on that note, I really think that we should be able to display comments on contracts to tell people what they are buying fully). 8: Well, I see it as two ways: NPC (aka interbus or ORE, yes, they are going to be used again), or via capusleer. Interbus would be simple: Either it would be a- Assuming there's no hub for us as a operating center for us to use for ground ops (which should come in), you'd "call" for a interbus hauler to come down and pick up your load, in which after a minute (or 5), it sends down a a hauler drone (modified RDV with a storage crate under it), in which it would take the ore from you (or loot, whatever necessary), back to the ship to a pre-picked destination (probably you would save the station as a drop off point before hand, and then select it). Or you would go the capusleer route and Call on him/her to link to said district, send a drone down to your location, and it basically does the same thing as the NPC. Difference between the two is that the NPC would take X time per jump/warp, and stays on a set course while the capusleer can change course. NPC is also probably only allowed in hisec as well. b-assuming that we actually do get a hub, It changes to one of three things: space elevator sends up stuff a landing pad for the hauler drones (doing it in the field is not possible) a rocket sends things up The capsuller option also still exists (it's the same).
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 685	Posted - 2014.06.28 08:29:00 - [104] - Quote How will I know if my goods are selling for the lowest price Will I be able to modify my sell orders? Will I be able to set up buy orders? (Some people don't want to take the time to set up sell orders, allowing buy orders makes it easier for those people to quickly sell their goods. At the same time rewarding people that have the patience too set up these orders.) Side question: why is DUST items still visible in EVEs market menu '#PCMasterRace
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8817	Posted - 2014.06.28 14:33:00 - [105] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: How will I know if my goods are selling for the lowest price Will I be able to modify my sell orders? Will I be able to set up buy orders? (Some people don't want to take the time to set up sell orders, allowing buy orders makes it easier for those people to quickly sell their goods. At the same time rewarding people that have the patience too set up these orders.) Side question: why is DUST items still visible in EVEs market menu Because they are part of the singularity and tranquillity server inventory. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 151	Posted - 2014.06.29 11:24:00 - [106] - Quote +1 CCP Z I have only had chance to look on my phone but they look nice. The balance for me would be between allowing the ease of use for a casual player and allowing the complexity for a market trader. Good work so far GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 82	Posted - 2014.07.02 14:15:00 - [107] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Hey guys, As promised to some of you on twitter, here are some screenshots from the new Market in-game (which is the reason why I did not have the time to get back to the Progression Discussion for quite a while). What's to know? As CCP Rouge presented during Fanfest, we want to create a player driven Economy in Legion. No more Secondary Market with NPC selling at a given price whatever quantity you would dream of. Now people have to loot gear and sell it on this Market. Basic functionalities will be: Sort Search per name, or category Create a Sell Order Purchase a Sell Order This feature will come with a set of sorting/filtering options: Price Name Metalevel Quantity Rarity Duration I can answer some questions on functionality and future development of this feature, but remember, it is only a 1st iteration ;) Enjoy: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg [img]http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg Whoa whoa whoa.....those are way to expensive man....how little do you think we will be dying ? lol or are the ship boardings in eve and the ground fighting going to be giving out more isk.... or will they be provided in the eve market? Oh eve market will be awesome in Legion. This is a must And corps should be able to make the guns for corp members too...maaybe...but that can be abused :/ Supporter of Legion Supporter of Valkyrie Supporter/Fan of Eve
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2418	Posted - 2014.07.02 17:49:00 - [108] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: So this is what you guys have been busy working on ;D My initial reaction when I saw this was "Woah, look at all the pretty colors!" Seriously, in the current Dust market it's very blue...and more blue I know that a lot of other players really like the idea of a player-market, but it's one of the things that has kept me away from playing EVE. FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. I really hope that even though we won't be able to buy thousands of weapons from a NPC market, there will still be a simplistic way to restock items (like you currently can on the fitting screen) without having to go into the market to buy and sell. That said, this is great stuff and I seriously can't wait to see more of it in the future. Keep it up! sure you could buy everything the simple way... blindy buying from the "lowest" seller. theres an option for that. problem for you is you dont know if the seller is marking up his prices. 10k isk for a rail rifle from a guy in some station, in a solar system, in a particular region sounds great. but theres a guy in a different station in another region selling the same item for 100 isk. people get ripped off every day in eve. That's called paying for convenience, not being ripped off.
Emo Skellington The Neutral Zone Psychotic Alliance 82	Posted - 2014.07.02 18:37:00 - [109] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Quick answers: - Of course the weapons were just put there for the purpose of the screenshot - We want to make it even easier to restock your fittings, so no back and forth between fitting and Market - Regarding the skill missing: imagine now clicking on it and it opens up your skill tree so you know what to upgrade to get it Will there be other skill reqs like in eve where say you want to throw an emp grenade and you need cpu skills to level 4 or if you wanted a specialist weapon you need prof 2 and a (possibly) new skill book like gallente weapoins specialist (lowers cpu and pg needs of gallente weapons) I would very much like faction gear too where you need other skills limke in eve hopefully something like this -caldari logistics III -Amarr logistics III Supporter of Legion Supporter of Valkyrie Supporter/Fan of Eve
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8832	Posted - 2014.07.02 18:58:00 - [110] - Quote Emo Skellington wrote: CCP Z wrote: Hey guys, As promised to some of you on twitter, here are some screenshots from the new Market in-game (which is the reason why I did not have the time to get back to the Progression Discussion for quite a while). What's to know? As CCP Rouge presented during Fanfest, we want to create a player driven Economy in Legion. No more Secondary Market with NPC selling at a given price whatever quantity you would dream of. Now people have to loot gear and sell it on this Market. Basic functionalities will be: Sort Search per name, or category Create a Sell Order Purchase a Sell Order This feature will come with a set of sorting/filtering options: Price Name Metalevel Quantity Rarity Duration I can answer some questions on functionality and future development of this feature, but remember, it is only a 1st iteration ;) Enjoy: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg [img]http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg Whoa whoa whoa.....those are way to expensive man....how little do you think we will be dying ? lol or are the ship boardings in eve and the ground fighting going to be giving out more isk.... or will they be provided in the eve market? Oh eve market will be awesome in Legion. This is a must And corps should be able to make the guns for corp members too...maaybe...but that can be abused :/ It's not about how little you will be dying. It will be about how much you make. Prices will be determined by the players after all. That means that the market forces of Supply & Demand will ensure that the price is right according to the average wealth of the players. Also if you have more ISK, you will be willing to spend more ISK for the same item. If you are tight on ISK, you will not be as willing. And since the Secondary Market will be key to this, it means you will then have additional means of earning ISK. Market Trading, similar to real-world Day Trading, will be a lucrative business for certain players who like the buy low and sell high and then profit from the margins while they're busy fighting. Imagine if I have a strong market presence in the region you're fighting in and you and me run into each other in battle. Not only will I make a profit fulfilling contracts by defeating you in combat, but I will also be making additional profit off of YOU when you later decide to replenish your stockpile with sell orders that I already established. That's right. A double whammy! On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3018	Posted - 2014.07.05 00:32:00 - [111] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hot damn that is a nice looking market. A few things probably more personal taste than problematic. 1) Personally I would prefer 50,000 ISK over +¦50,000 2) Would it be possible to create a Pop-up list that does an intial filter? Weapons ^ Heavy Weapons ^ Light Weapons >>>>> Rifles >>>>>>>>>Blaster Rifles >>>>>>>>>Combat Rifles >>>>>>>>>Scrambler Rifles >>>>>>>>>Rail Rifles >>>>>Shotguns >>>>>Launchers Etc? Fixed. Stop calling it the wrong name. Never, it has and always will be the blaster rifle to me, sounds so much more badass! They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 177	Posted - 2014.07.08 03:40:00 - [112] - Quote To OP. Its a beauty. That said, you dont need that big items. Make it smaller. Get out of that console design mentality, we can look at more than 4 items at once in the same listing,, especially when the big images add little to nothing to functionality and information. And have precision pointing tools at our disposal for added awesomeness.
Kincate DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2014.07.08 12:11:00 - [113] - Quote CCP Z, Market looks shiny. My only comment is that even though at this point it may not be critical, Market data being able to look at an item's price history, volume sold, etc... otherwise tr+¿s bon. 1st Legionhare
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 255	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:47:00 - [114] - Quote A couple suggestions. 1. If you have an unfilled order (buy or sell) for an item then it should be highlighted in the market. Say if I have an order for a bunch of assault riffles, an exclamation mark would then appear next to the relevant category (Weapons). And when you expand another exclamation mark appears next to the next relevant category (Light), and this is repeated right down to the relevant weapon which has an "oustanding order" message on it (similar to the skill missing message except green maybe?) 2. Being able to filter by race. 3. Being able to see on the market screen how many you already have in stock. 4. Entries color coded according to rarity. Unless of course the items themselves will have some visual cues to indicate rarity.
Ghural Bear Pradox One Proficiency V. 298	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:47:00 - [115] - Quote A couple suggestions. 1. If you have an unfilled order (buy or sell) for an item then it should be highlighted in the market. Say if I have an order for a bunch of assault riffles, an exclamation mark would then appear next to the relevant category (Weapons). And when you expand another exclamation mark appears next to the next relevant category (Light), and this is repeated right down to the relevant weapon which has an "oustanding order" message on it (similar to the skill missing message except green maybe?) 2. Being able to filter by race. 3. Being able to see on the market screen how many you already have in stock. 4. Entries color coded according to rarity. Unless of course the items themselves will have some visual cues to indicate rarity.
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 255	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:49:00 - [116] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: To OP. Its a beauty. That said, you dont need that big items. Make it smaller. Get out of that console design mentality, we can look at more than 4 items at once in the same listing,, especially when the big images add little to nothing to functionality and information. And have precision pointing tools at our disposal for added awesomeness. No. No. No. Not everyone has great eyesight squints Maybe have a compact and expanded option that people can toggle.
Ghural Bear Pradox One Proficiency V. 298	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:49:00 - [117] - Quote Ender Storm wrote: To OP. Its a beauty. That said, you dont need that big items. Make it smaller. Get out of that console design mentality, we can look at more than 4 items at once in the same listing,, especially when the big images add little to nothing to functionality and information. And have precision pointing tools at our disposal for added awesomeness. No. No. No. Not everyone has great eyesight squints Maybe have a compact and expanded option that people can toggle.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10720	Posted - 2014.07.19 23:47:00 - [118] - Quote Could we add a "Recommended" Section, where it shows items purchased the most by players in your Contacts List? And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot lived... -HAND
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 3169	Posted - 2014.07.21 03:01:00 - [119] - Quote I'm not sure if you guys have discussed this yet... I just noticed that this Plasma Rifle requires a High Slot. This might mean we are finally moving to a more eve-like high-mid-low set up. Very exciting imo, this will allow for more customization in terms of equipment, grenades, explosives, weapons, etc. Hopefully we can see a fleshed out hardpoint system later on as well! B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 398	Posted - 2014.07.22 19:03:00 - [120] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hot damn that is a nice looking market. A few things probably more personal taste than problematic. 1) Personally I would prefer 50,000 ISK over +¦50,000 2) Would it be possible to create a Pop-up list that does an intial filter? Weapons ^ Heavy Weapons ^ Light Weapons >>>>> Rifles >>>>>>>>>Blaster Rifles >>>>>>>>>Combat Rifles >>>>>>>>>Scrambler Rifles >>>>>>>>>Rail Rifles >>>>>Shotguns >>>>>Launchers Etc? Fixed. Stop calling it the wrong name. Never, it has and always will be the blaster rifle to me, sounds so much more badass! 1: Get out of your own world and come back to reality, it's called the Plasma Rifle, deal with it. 2: That is an opinion.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12135	Posted - 2014.07.23 04:42:00 - [121] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Hot damn that is a nice looking market. A few things probably more personal taste than problematic. 1) Personally I would prefer 50,000 ISK over +¦50,000 2) Would it be possible to create a Pop-up list that does an intial filter? Weapons ^ Heavy Weapons ^ Light Weapons >>>>> Rifles >>>>>>>>>Blaster Rifles >>>>>>>>>Combat Rifles >>>>>>>>>Scrambler Rifles >>>>>>>>>Rail Rifles >>>>>Shotguns >>>>>Launchers Etc? Fixed. Stop calling it the wrong name. Never, it has and always will be the blaster rifle to me, sounds so much more badass! 1: Get out of your own world and come back to reality, it's called the Plasma Rifle, deal with it. 2: That is an opinion. 1.) That's an opinion 2.) That's an opinion "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 496	Posted - 2014.07.26 20:41:00 - [122] - Quote Looks promising. I look forward to playing this.
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4378	Posted - 2014.08.05 01:35:00 - [123] - Quote No picture of my HMG I don't rage,I get even
Zindorak 1.U.P 608	Posted - 2014.08.13 12:31:00 - [124] - Quote That looks sexy Also what console is this on? Pokemon master
San Saorlan Fight Club Outfit 1	Posted - 2014.08.16 14:54:00 - [125] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. People that prefer their shooting games to be all about the shooting are unlikely to play PL. They will be playing COD or BF4 or some other mindless game. People interested in PL do want a lot of market interaction and it is the main link to Eve. More market I say. Also hopefully we can craft all of these items. PL is going to be an MMO no just a FPS. The FPS is just the combat mechanic and does not mean the game has to limit itself t being as shallow as Dust was/is.
San Saorlan Fight Club Outfit 1	Posted - 2014.08.16 14:55:00 - [126] - Quote Zindorak wrote: That looks sexy Also what console is this on? Funny :) (or stupid)
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 849	Posted - 2014.08.18 04:21:00 - [127] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Also I see AUR is represented in that mockup. Can you comment to its possible use in Legion. This caught my attention as well. With a full player market and little NPC interaction it seems that AUR would have to be totally repurposed. I had really hoped to not see AUR items at all as they are also bad for a player driven economy in my opinion. PLEASE PLEASE tell us AUR will only be for boosters while the only shortcut gear will be from the LP stores. As I settled into the idea of Legion this was one the main things that came to buy.
Zindorak 1.U.P 681	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:27:00 - [128] - Quote What Is Legion gonna be on? Do beta testers get the game for free? and is it free? Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3229	Posted - 2014.08.26 20:42:00 - [129] - Quote Zindorak wrote: What Is Legion gonna be on? Do beta testers get the game for free? and is it free? Windows 7, 8.1, and 9. OSX and Linux support are unknown but doubtful (afaik, there may have been an official no on it). It is supposed to be free to play according to posts from CCP Z and such. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Zindorak 1.U.P 686	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:13:00 - [130] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Zindorak wrote: What Is Legion gonna be on? Do beta testers get the game for free? and is it free? Windows 7, 8.1, and 9. OSX and Linux support are unknown but doubtful (afaik, there may have been an official no on it). It is supposed to be free to play according to posts from CCP Z and such. Ok thank you. Wait windows 9? Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad

Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 756	Posted - 2014.08.27 01:38:00 - [131] - Quote Don't know if this was pointed out but it says Prize instead of Price. Icelandic translation perhaps? Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3229	Posted - 2014.08.27 02:19:00 - [132] - Quote Zindorak wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Zindorak wrote: What Is Legion gonna be on? Do beta testers get the game for free? and is it free? Windows 7, 8.1, and 9. OSX and Linux support are unknown but doubtful (afaik, there may have been an official no on it). It is supposed to be free to play according to posts from CCP Z and such. Ok thank you. Wait windows 9? Eh, it's rumored to release in the next year or so from what I've read and were definitely more than a year from beta for legion. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Mex-0 Comander's Capital 39	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:09:00 - [133] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Quick answers: - Of course the weapons were just put there for the purpose of the screenshot - We want to make it even easier to restock your fittings, so no back and forth between fitting and Market - Regarding the skill missing: imagine now clicking on it and it opens up your skill tree so you know what to upgrade to get it Will we be able to use PS3 controllers with Project Legion? I've grown rather fond of mine... I don't use OP weapons, I AM OP.
deadly assasin323 deadly blood steps 9	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:07:00 - [134] - Quote So with the new market I have to get my weapons via salvage(sweet loot)and decide if I want to use it or sell it to other players through the market.is that correct.because I like the idea to sell you gear to the world but I still liked the way that I had to work and make isk off a battle and pay for a good gun can I still buy a gun from the market and not have to deal with high prices a player might wager with Join my corp deadly blood steps go check us out we need players like you
Haerr Legio DXIV 1337	Posted - 2014.09.06 11:11:00 - [135] - Quote More pics, please! :) Super Cow Powers.
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 682	Posted - 2014.09.07 07:28:00 - [136] - Quote San Saorlan wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. People that prefer their shooting games to be all about the shooting are unlikely to play PL. They will be playing COD or BF4 or some other mindless game. People interested in PL do want a lot of market interaction and it is the main link to Eve. More market I say. Also hopefully we can craft all of these items. PL is going to be an MMO no just a FPS. The FPS is just the combat mechanic and does not mean the game has to limit itself t being as shallow as Dust was/is. Not really true. I've no interest in spending all my time managing assets, but I'd still rather play PL than CoD. I've been playing DUST since open beta because that's been true. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 128	Posted - 2014.09.14 18:11:00 - [137] - Quote Regarding the 'Screenshots'. Has the QA team pointed out that you spelled alliance incorrectly on the chat tab yet? Also is this a mock up or an actual screenshot? just asking as the font spacing seems a little inconsistent here as well. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Josephine Darkwater Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.09.28 20:20:00 - [138] - Quote My very first thought on those pics was (sry for the language) "Awwshit ** that stupid militia gear, not again!" Make one(!) really basic really really weak dropsuit ready for every player without any useful customisation. This suit is always ready, does not cost any ressources and every death comes with 1 tritanium for free. It's the newbsuit While beeing useless in any and all regards it is enough to complete the most basic missions and as mentioned in another thread this "loot salvaging" on a very simple level. Like mining with a noobship. Neither fun nor effective but it's enough for the very first ISK. But do not give all players right from the start this weak but really really cheap allround stuff that is not really the best but you can do a really good job at killing people with it. Ever tried to kill someone with a (as in "one") noobship? Not that easy :) I think the more basic concepts you can take from EVE the better Legion will be and more important: The connection between the two games will become easier too. deezy dabest wrote:** PLEASE PLEASE tell us AUR will only be for boosters while the only shortcut gear will be from the LP stores. As I settled into the idea of Legion this was one the main things that came to mind. Which is another thing that was a stupid idea in the first place. The only thing that all this AUR gear accomplished was a huge chaos in the market. Everywhere this stupid AUR stuff in between, endless lists of scrolling around and probably dusts attempt to seem like a "complex game" like uhhhh there's so much stuff until you realize it's all the same but it got fancy long and complicated names and cost money.
Grimmiers 663	Posted - 2014.10.02 15:48:00 - [139] - Quote I never noticed the installations in the market menu... I wanna see a lot of cool stuff during eve vegas to make up for fanfest
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 137	Posted - 2014.10.11 16:52:00 - [140] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Zindorak wrote: What Is Legion gonna be on? Do beta testers get the game for free? and is it free? Windows 7, 8.1, and 9. Lies, i hear its only 7,8/8.1 and 10 Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)

Horse Schitt Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.10.12 08:22:00 - [141] - Quote Any chance for menu customization? I like having thicker borders on the menus. Without them it feels like buttons and examples bleed onto each other.
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 596	Posted - 2014.10.19 00:47:00 - [142] - Quote +1 Director, Dust University @TrueXer0z
Jathniel G I A N T 1236	Posted - 2014.11.02 10:22:00 - [143] - Quote Please don't be dead, please don't be dead. please please please please PLEASE don't be dead! Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.11.06 20:36:00 - [144] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Hey guys, As promised to some of you on twitter, here are some screenshots from the new Market in-game (which is the reason why I did not have the time to get back to the Progression Discussion for quite a while). What's to know? As CCP Rouge presented during Fanfest, we want to create a player driven Economy in Legion. No more Secondary Market with NPC selling at a given price whatever quantity you would dream of. Now people have to loot gear and sell it on this Market. Basic functionalities will be: Sort Search per name, or category Create a Sell Order Purchase a Sell Order This feature will come with a set of sorting/filtering options: Price Name Metalevel Quantity Rarity Duration I can answer some questions on functionality and future development of this feature, but remember, it is only a 1st iteration ;) Enjoy: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg [img]http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg that is one sexy market screen show me more!!! "not sure if im smart or just crazy?"
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.11.06 20:40:00 - [145] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: So this is what you guys have been busy working on ;D My initial reaction when I saw this was "Woah, look at all the pretty colors!" Seriously, in the current Dust market it's very blue...and more blue I know that a lot of other players really like the idea of a player-market, but it's one of the things that has kept me away from playing EVE. FPS players want to spend more time shooting people in the face than managing their assets in a market hub. I really hope that even though we won't be able to buy thousands of weapons from a NPC market, there will still be a simplistic way to restock items (like you currently can on the fitting screen) without having to go into the market to buy and sell. That said, this is great stuff and I seriously can't wait to see more of it in the future. Keep it up! sure you could buy everything the simple way... blindy buying from the "lowest" seller. theres an option for that. problem for you is you dont know if the seller is marking up his prices. 10k isk for a rail rifle from a guy in some station, in a solar system, in a particular region sounds great. but theres a guy in a different station in another region selling the same item for 100 isk. people get ripped off every day in eve. and as long as i get my rifle i whould not really care just need to fight beter then this thread just got 20% cooler
Eris Ernaga Successful Players Every Time 941	Posted - 2014.11.16 14:06:00 - [146] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Glue applied. Fire away! Please post more. *Closed Beta Vet* Gone until the game gets better Estimated Wait Time: *ErrorWaitTimeToLong*
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2160	Posted - 2014.11.27 06:03:00 - [147] - Quote CCP Z wrote: Hey guys, As promised to some of you on twitter, here are some screenshots from the new Market in-game (which is the reason why I did not have the time to get back to the Progression Discussion for quite a while). What's to know? As CCP Rouge presented during Fanfest, we want to create a player driven Economy in Legion. No more Secondary Market with NPC selling at a given price whatever quantity you would dream of. Now people have to loot gear and sell it on this Market. Basic functionalities will be: Sort Search per name, or category Create a Sell Order Purchase a Sell Order This feature will come with a set of sorting/filtering options: Price Name Metalevel Quantity Rarity Duration I can answer some questions on functionality and future development of this feature, but remember, it is only a 1st iteration ;) Enjoy: [img]http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/Q6sraNb.jpg [img]http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg[/img] http://i.imgur.com/EuvkKz5.jpg those screens are sexy.. do something like that for eve market menus! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]


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