Yes, it is a specialized fit. But that fit Solo'd two tanks (destroyed both) post 1.8 but pre A-Hotfix.

@OP:


Maybe you might remember me from earlier today with my basic templar assault and standard templar scrambler pistol against your boundless cr and proto scout.


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maybe it's not the suit that's bad?

Is the rest of your accomplishments based upon pre alpha 1.8? I was fine pre alpha, it was the cloak dampening nerf that hit us hardest. And all to fix a tanking problem that still exists.

I know I have found the suit unplayable since alpha, and in the worst state I have seen it in my 1.25 years in the suit. That could be because it was in the best place it had been just prior to alpha, but given the current state of play, it is definitely UP.

It is especially UP at the std and adv levels, which also need to factor in. We can't just say that all those who can't afford proto should not play minjas, that is unreasonable.

Same for Amarr Scout obviously

Ya lol i was trying to NK on manus peak....and evey time id see you id run up close and pull out my NKs and you would backpedal...so lol

EDIT: I generally only run SG, so don't bring up the whole "your bad" thing. well see what happens when i run my shotty fit lol. Also, my 290 hp fit can get one shot by a ScrP headshot, so congrats bro.

not trying to chest thump, just pointing out that a scout strafing that fast and with a proto cr ,nonetheless, should never lose in the situations we fought under.

(I am ignoring the knife bonus as it is more of a fun addition than a real worthwhile bonus).

Possible solutions compilation from what people have posted so far:

Conservative:
-Raise the PG on the suit to accommodate the PG intensive modules it must fit
-Change one of the bonuses to PG reduction on biotic modules
-Boost hacking bonus to 10%+

Moderate:
-Change a bonus to biotic module efficacy
-Increase base sprint speed

Liberal:
-Change a bonus to movement metrics (i.e. movement speed) bonus
-Change a bonus to sprint speed bonus

Will add more when i find them/when they are added by ppl

Same for Amarr Scout obviously

it has the fastest move speed in the game.....I tried it on one of my alts and I like it cause of the strafe speed. Not sure what's so horrible about the suit

Err, Amarr scouts are... Ok I guess Ratti.

Anyway why is this yet again another Minja complain thread? Ask Mr. Mustard for advice, he is 'THE Minja' of New Eden. I've seen bricked up minjas kick my butt, minjas outstrafe my speed heavy, minjas just go *slash, slash* outta nowhere and I go down in an instant... Hell, one guy I'll never forget ran nova knives and the freedom assault massdriver, and could bring the best heavy down without being noticed... And this was before cloak...

Give the suit more PG! Its insane the amount of PG required for 3 complex shields and a kincat plus that stupid cloak. You gave the suit an extra low but yet we have to fill it with a PG upgrade? We're pretty much in the same boat as before the scout buff

I ignored the rest of your post after this line. You're bad and you should feel bad. Eat a ****.

Change the hack bonus to an inherent suit bonus (remove 5% to hacking a level, make base hack speed 1.3)

Add a 5% a level increase to kin cat module efficiency

Retain the nova knife bonus

Add 10 PG

Maths for movement:
First module = 15.75%
Total = +15.75%
Speed = 9.6m/s

Second module = 13.69%
Total = +31.59%
Speed = 10.9m/s

Third module = 8.99%
Total = +43.42%
Speed = 11.9m/s
ignore these._will not make min scout more competitive
We're still screwed when it comes to Cal hyper-scanners, but at least we can be definitively the fastest suit, can actually fit kin cats, and retain the ability to speed hack.

Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of.

that IMO is a bad idea to remove the hacking bonus, but i agree with the pg buff.
if you think about it the min scout need that bonus because it is the first to get in and the first to get out so hacking is very essentil to the min scouts survival.

as a minmatar scout you depend on:
movement
hacking speed
isolated or small groups of targets
traveling on foot for less attention
depending on his/her weapons for being engaged by a target

Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of.

Amarr should get a bonus to scrambler pistols (or just pistols in general?). The light assault idea is a great idea, but it needs to have a unique thing about it that makes you want to skill into it (want to be the best gunslinger? play amarr scout type of thing)
Idk, I don't play the amarr scout...but the stamina bonus is just silly. It's like giving the Minmatar logistics suit a hacking speed bonus on top of the inherent 20% bonus it already gets from being a logi (and minmatar)

Minmatar should be all about speed. Slots are fine, but maybe give it a pg reduction to kin cats? :O
I think that any sort of fitting bonuses should be towards actually using the items. I don't like just basic increases in stats that allow the suit to potentially be abused by another playstyle that wasn't possible before (like HP tanking).
A cool option would be to give it a bonus to nova knives that reduces their fitting cost to 0 at level 5. I mean these are KNIVES we're talking about.

Leave the dampening and precision to the gal/cal scouts and make the Amarr/Minmatar all about being a beast with sidearms. Just make sure to give bonuses that are only applied if the item is actually being equipped to the suit.

that IMO is a bad idea to remove the hacking bonus, but i agree with the pg buff.
if you think about it the min scout need that bonus because it is the first to get in and the first to get out so hacking is very essentil to the min scouts survival.

as a minmatar scout you depend on:
movement
hacking speed
isolated or small groups of targets
traveling on foot for less attention
depending on his/her weapons for being engaged by a target