I knew the answer it's a rhetorical question now their literally no reason to hold land except for more clones. This is quite the dumb idea.

I'm sorry your vision is so narrow you can't see how to make ISK in the new environment. Heck I know even Zatara has some pretty creative plans to continue to make ISK. Players will find a way and passive ISK will be put to bed.

Also, not really "moving over to goons" since I've been there all along. Fact is that Roman, Espeon, and the other leaders deserve their time to run things. What happens to ERA is up to them and it's extremely clear.

Again, getting rid of passive ISK was the plan all along. Just needed a bit more firepower to lay the groundwork for a convincing argument and bluing up all of the best players in the game did the trick. Everyone was so willing to suck at the teat of passive ISK they were willing to do anything to protect it. Even destroy all of PC and everyone's access to it in the process while allying with people that they hated.

Troll.

I'm a little confused as to what exactly Goons do in Dust. Could you clarify?

They made sure that it failed on PS3 so that CCP would be forced back onto PC where they, and their master-race-minded cronies, would be able to compete in a game based on their personal preferences as opposed to dust's current attempt at consoles.

Note: Yeah, I personally blame them all for ruining any chance this game had to be fun for many, because the meta was more important than the actual long-term viability of the game itself.

EDIT / P.S.-if you don't believe me, just look back at what the main leaders behind the DNS Donut did, where they are now, and who they brag about being a part of (while hiding that fact until the game ended) and how joyous at the Legion turn-of-events.

They made sure that it failed on PS3 so that CCP would be forced back onto PC where they, and their master-race-minded cronies, would be able to compete in a game based on their personal preferences as opposed to dust's current attempt at consoles.

Note: Yeah, I personally blame them all for ruining any chance this game had to be fun for many, because the meta was more important than the actual long-term viability of the game itself.

EDIT / P.S.-if you don't believe me, just look back at what the main leaders behind the DNS Donut did, where they are now, and who they brag about being a part of (while hiding that fact until the game ended) and how joyous at the Legion turn-of-events.

The only way any of this would matter is if they wiped ISK.

No, I'm actually curious!

If I wanted to troll, I'd say I've ~always~ been in AE. because, you know, I joined them in November last year.

I've been there all along.

I answered your question... what do goonfeet do? Goon feet troll people.

Yeah but with those free generated clones you can launch attacks for free. And dont forget that the income from the PC matches is aswell increased. So beeing lazy wont pay off. You have to continuesly search for a district that you can launch a attack on. I could even see a long run agreement where district flipping is prohibited on the community. Lets say your corp holds 5 districts and launches a attack. That attack is not there to flip the district but instead to have a decent fight and good payouts. Ofcourse both sides will still fight hard simply cause the looser gets no ISK payout at all.

Another thing is the new system will prevent another blue donout cause its not attractive to hold all of the land. When nobody except 1 alliance has all districts then there is nobody to fight against. So showing mercy on some scrub corp could bring more profit then flipping the district. Cause it is better to get their clone count low and then wait 2-3 days to re attack again to farm them.

you see now even the biggest scrubs in the game have a purpose in PC. And that is to get farmed every day while we keep them the illusion that they defended their home successfull.

I'm not an idiot I know what's happening I just disagree with carebear 514.

Trolling between game systems is one of the greatest things I have ever participated in.

Definitely

confirmed: more goonfleet activity in this thread than in the actual game.

I suppose now is a bad time to mention I've been a Goon longer than most of the Goons in this thread?

This is the product of a whiny fanbase that can't handle the consequences of losing.

It gets really tiring trying to explain to people that we need MORE people in PC. If that means that it needs to be carebear for a while then so be it.

45 mil ISK clone pack is ********.

Reading some of the responses from people here makes my brain hurt. People just don't seem to have a solid grasp on incentives and risk/reward. CCP dropped the ball by not having some other form of Team Deploy. It stacked the odds from the onset in the favor of those that had participated in corp battles in beta. That on top of an SP and an experience gap. Fast forward a year and you have a gamemode that is(was) dominated by a ridiculously small amount of players.

I discuss this stuff with Zatara on Skype. It's like some people are just plain delusional about the state of PC and the participation levels. We were having a long argument about how many corps and players have pulled out of PC. Zatara didn't think that was the case. I'm not sure how he could think that, but it seems many other dudes from elite corps have this opinion.

PC has hurt Dust from a veteran retention standpoint more than any other thing in my opinion. And we have people in here that want the ******* clone pack price to be more than 45 million???? When a lot of known corps have 3 to 5 people on at a time we want people to do BPO 100% tax weekends.

I'm a bit doped up on my pain meds at the moment so I am rambling a bit. But is it just me or are some people just completely delusional about the state of the game and what is needed to create interest in PC (or as I like to refer, our only avenue for team deploy).

confirmed: more goonfleet activity in this thread than in the actual game.

It gets really tiring trying to explain to people that we need MORE people in PC. If that means that it needs to be carebear for a while then so be it.

45 mil ISK clone pack is ********.

Reading some of the responses from people here makes my brain hurt. People just don't seem to have a solid grasp on incentives and risk/reward. CCP dropped the ball by not having some other form of Team Deploy. It stacked the odds from the onset in the favor of those that had participated in corp battles in beta. That on top of an SP and an experience gap. Fast forward a year and you have a gamemode that is(was) dominated by a ridiculously small amount of players.

I discuss this stuff with Zatara on Skype. It's like some people are just plain delusional about the state of PC and the participation levels. We were having a long argument about how many corps and players have pulled out of PC. Zatara didn't think that was the case. I'm not sure how he could think that, but it seems many other dudes from elite corps have this opinion.

I suppose now is a bad time to mention I've been a Goon longer than most of the Goons in this thread?

Please show me the fully featured and actively developed fpsmmo that this forum is supposedly about. Seems like that game hasn't even been thumbs up'd for production yet.

But yeah, there will probably be way more posting than playing. What of it, friend?