They made sure that it failed on PS3 so that CCP would be forced back onto PC where they, and their master-race-minded cronies, would be able to compete in a game based on their personal preferences as opposed to dust's current attempt at consoles.

Note: Yeah, I personally blame them all for ruining any chance this game had to be fun for many, because the meta was more important than the actual long-term viability of the game itself.

EDIT / P.S.-if you don't believe me, just look back at what the main leaders behind the DNS Donut did, where they are now, and who they brag about being a part of (while hiding that fact until the game ended) and how joyous at the Legion turn-of-events.

I answered your question... what do goonfeet do? Goon feet troll people.

confirmed: more goonfleet activity in this thread than in the actual game.

It gets really tiring trying to explain to people that we need MORE people in PC. If that means that it needs to be carebear for a while then so be it.

45 mil ISK clone pack is ********.

Reading some of the responses from people here makes my brain hurt. People just don't seem to have a solid grasp on incentives and risk/reward. CCP dropped the ball by not having some other form of Team Deploy. It stacked the odds from the onset in the favor of those that had participated in corp battles in beta. That on top of an SP and an experience gap. Fast forward a year and you have a gamemode that is(was) dominated by a ridiculously small amount of players.

I discuss this stuff with Zatara on Skype. It's like some people are just plain delusional about the state of PC and the participation levels. We were having a long argument about how many corps and players have pulled out of PC. Zatara didn't think that was the case. I'm not sure how he could think that, but it seems many other dudes from elite corps have this opinion.

PC has hurt Dust from a veteran retention standpoint more than any other thing in my opinion. And we have people in here that want the ******* clone pack price to be more than 45 million???? When a lot of known corps have 3 to 5 people on at a time we want people to do BPO 100% tax weekends.

I'm a bit doped up on my pain meds at the moment so I am rambling a bit. But is it just me or are some people just completely delusional about the state of the game and what is needed to create interest in PC (or as I like to refer, our only avenue for team deploy).

How that isn't suprising... like in any way not suprising that your an SA poster.

and I have a counter-announcement:

Nobody cares what you think, bro. We play cause we enjoy playing.

Heaven forbid people respond to incentives and try to maximize their enjoyment in limited play time. Don't they know we're all supposed to wear hair shirts and flagellate ourselves in the name of e-bushido.

Games should be competitive and dynamic because they're fun to engage in. With a low barrier to entry and a deep and complex strategic element that rewards mastery without squashing the development of new talent.

so, on a sidenote, I just had a braeburn apple. Felt a bit mealy, honeycrisp and Fuji apples are better, not as bad as Gala apples, though. I also like Granny Smith apples. There's also this new mango that's currently in season here in MD. Tastes really good, can't wait to put it in some pancakes and see how it tastes.

You ever had a honeycrisp? They're hard to find unless in the fall season. But... They... are... Amazing. Granny Smiths are honestly, to me, a desperate fallback incase I can't get a Honeycrisp or Fuji. They're also good for cooking, but who doesn't know that.

You're being silly. Agreeing not to fight had nothing to do with passive isk and everything to do with the fact we were all tired of fighting the same group of people day in and day out for months.

The inactive, inadequate and scrubby players are entirely to blame for the state of things. They failed to create content.

The irony is staggering. So you guys locked districts and farmed ISK to pubstomp because there wasnt enough of a turn over of competitive players....

...Meanwhile, new players were getting stomped and decided to give up on the game, significantly hurting player retention and ensuring that the top tier of the playerbase would remain stagnant. Therefore ensuring that the future generation of competitive players would be sparse.

You keep trying to put the problem on everyone else. But each time, it leads right back to where I said it did. Just own up and take responsibility for what you guys collectively did; You took advantage of something to the point that you forced CCPs hand into acting.

Dont blame new players who you didnt give time and space to build themselves up, dont blame people who protested the unsustainable status quo, dont blame CCP. Blame those whos actions brought us here today. Blame those who created a problem that needed solving.



In all fairness, the U.S. political spectrum is so charged and polarized these days that both sides are host to completely unreasonable rhetoric and ideology. When i say "sense of entitlement", and "welfare check", I dont mean to target anyone of any political learning specifically, as both sides are guilty of it.

The "left wing" wants free stuff for the poor as their "entitlements", and the right wing wants obscene, useless procurement contracts and other big government projects to go to their districts as "entitlements". Whether we are talking about giving a $100 of food stamps to someone who doesnt need them, or building 100s of tanks we never asked for, its abuse of tax money that some people feel they are entitled to.

But im preaching to the choir here. Youre a Goon. From what Im told you guys are good at economics.

Prove it.

Show me the exact relationship and how it is the key issue surrounding player retention. And I'm not talking about bogus political theories, I want actual proof.

And tbh, it wouldn't matter if I was running proto, advanced, or standard. I'd take a massive dump on your whiny new incompetent players either way. So this changed nothing, except when I decide to run cheap it's impossible for them to kill anything actually worth something.

They say when you get married you can either be happy, or you can be right.

I am not yet married, therefore I am making the most of the time god has granted me and enjoying both quite thoroughly.

You say that, but the superiority complex your signature implies suggests to me there is a good amount of projection going on. The direct use of curse words in an insulting fashion also breaks A-typical Goon Troll Doctrine, which normally makes use of the original posters logic and turns it against them to make that person feel truly stupid.


The breaking of this doctrine suggests to me a heightened level of agitation and a low level of competence, which would make you a textbook case for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Tell me about your mother.

I see you are avoiding the subject of your mother.

Does it trouble you when this topic is brought up?

Hmmmm, I have to accept Himi as my home boy. Therefore, I must find a way to deter the swarm of goons upon his person. But how to do such an act..... Hmmmm....... I know!!! Bad Rap scares everyone!!

Was that guy serious when he said goons were running dust??