I suppose now is a bad time to mention I've been a Goon longer than most of the Goons in this thread?

How that isn't suprising... like in any way not suprising that your an SA poster.

Calling a system where ISK only comes from killing other clones carebear ...

I'd like to interrupt the above badposter's tenuous grasp of English to remind everyone that this thread is now about Goonfeet and our hentai-esque tendrils that have infiltrated every orifice of DUST 514 and CCP.

We're everywhere! Better check under the bed and in the cupboard!!!

Wouldn't it make more sense to include custom clone packs?

You could pay for each clone individually, but at 300k a pop. That way you could select the amount of clones you need, without having to worry about an expensive cost of admission.

However, there would need to be a minimum of clones you'd have to purchase.

No, this is the product of Nyain San using PC funding to wage war against militia players in pubs. They made a PC problem into everyones problem. They weren't the only ones doing it, but they did it the most. You are acting like this is a case of someone losing a PC fight and not being happy about it cause they didn't get to collect the reward. Thats not the case at all.

CCP is not making the game "boring". They are just ending a massive entitlement and subsidies program that a handful of players were using to negatively impact the game.

In an earlier post you said "Well now all someone has to do to bleed out Nyain San is run them down in pubs". Good! The cost of the proto equipment is part of balancing. Its high costs is supposed to limit how often a player will choose to lose it, lest they cross into the red ink. So now Nyain will have their entitlements tap turned off and will have to compete on their own merit.

if they are good players this wont be a problem for them. Cutting off the CCP issued ISK welfare check should make things much more interesting all around.

You just made pubs more relevant than PC.

Do you have any idea how backwards that is?

Its not about prioritizing game modes. The concept is exceedingly simple to understand:

PC passive ISK was supposed to be used to bankroll PC warfare; Conquests, defenses, and reimbursing your mercenaries for their losses. Instead, corps agreed to not fight eachother just to hold land . They refused to play so they could use the PC ISK like a welfare check to finance other endeavors.

Since PC ISK was not being used to finance PC, its being removed. Thats not my fault. Blame those who colluded to not fight and just collect passive ISK.

What was stopping your from attacking one of the 244 Online districts? What was stoping every single player in every single corporation in the game who was not in DNS from forming a huge alliance, working together and forming a 16man super team to smack all other teams asses. Let me answer that for you. Lazyness. None of you wanted to put the effort forward to form that team. It would have taken you lots of time and effort. Pride stopped you, lazyness stopped you. None of our teams in DNS could have stopped you. You out numbered us 10 to 1.

Owning districts took time and planning. Strategy and strength. Removing the reward from the game, removes the competiveness out of the game. Congrats. Own your 1-3 districts..sit on them. Make NOTHING. No show battles you know your going to lose, and the attacker gets NO isk. They get land...yay.

As an interruption of your regularly scheduled shitposting, I have the following news:

Dust has died already and nothing you whine about in this forum matters. That is all.

You may now resume your pointless blathering.

and I have a counter-announcement:

Nobody cares what you think, bro. We play cause we enjoy playing.

I'm not your bro, guy.

Wouldn't 150 clones be destroyed by the win netting each player around 2m unless that's changed? Though still with no value to districts no one will be too interested in the flip if they have a few districts and it'll just be Farmville 514.

Feedback from players seems to have stalled out the idea of only the killed clones counting

We've been living in Farmville 514 for over a year.

As the system stands right now if a defender no shows then you would still get payment for destroying 150 clones. Feedback from players seems to have stalled out the idea of only the killed clones counting but this may still end up being the case of an attacker no showing a battle yielding no ISK for the defender.

What was stopping your from attacking one of the 244 Online districts? What was stoping every single player in every single corporation in the game who was not in DNS from forming a huge alliance, working together and forming a 16man super team to smack all other teams asses. Let me answer that for you. Lazyness. None of you wanted to put the effort forward to form that team. It would have taken you lots of time and effort. Pride stopped you, lazyness stopped you. None of our teams in DNS could have stopped you. You out numbered us 10 to 1.

Owning districts took time and planning. Strategy and strength. Removing the reward from the game, removes the competiveness out of the game. Congrats. Own your 1-3 districts..sit on them. Make NOTHING. No show battles you know your going to lose, and the attacker gets NO isk. They get land...yay.

Heaven forbid people respond to incentives and try to maximize their enjoyment in limited play time. Don't they know we're all supposed to wear hair shirts and flagellate ourselves in the name of e-bushido.

Games should be competitive and dynamic because they're fun to engage in. With a low barrier to entry and a deep and complex strategic element that rewards mastery without squashing the development of new talent.

so, on a sidenote, I just had a braeburn apple. Felt a bit mealy, honeycrisp and Fuji apples are better, not as bad as Gala apples, though. I also like Granny Smith apples. There's also this new mango that's currently in season here in MD. Tastes really good, can't wait to put it in some pancakes and see how it tastes.

Man I hate Granny Smith, but I love me some Fuji.

You ever had a honeycrisp? They're hard to find unless in the fall season. But... They... are... Amazing. Granny Smiths are honestly, to me, a desperate fallback incase I can't get a Honeycrisp or Fuji. They're also good for cooking, but who doesn't know that.

Its not about prioritizing game modes. The concept is exceedingly simple to understand:

PC passive ISK was supposed to be used to bankroll PC warfare; Conquests, defenses, and reimbursing your mercenaries for their losses. Instead, corps agreed to not fight eachother just to hold land . They refused to play so they could use the PC ISK like a welfare check to finance other endeavors.

Since PC ISK was not being used to finance PC, its being removed. Thats not my fault. Blame those who colluded to not fight and just collect passive ISK.

You're being silly. Agreeing not to fight had nothing to do with passive isk and everything to do with the fact we were all tired of fighting the same group of people day in and day out for months.

The inactive, inadequate and scrubby players are entirely to blame for the state of things. They failed to create content.

You're being silly. Agreeing not to fight had nothing to do with passive isk and everything to do with the fact we were all tired of fighting the same group of people day in and day out for months.

The inactive, inadequate and scrubby players are entirely to blame for the state of things. They failed to create content.

DAMN YOU POOR STUPID PEOPLE ITS YOUR FAULT FOR OUR SUFFERING!!! (Its creepy how this idea is propagated so easily in the right wing and relevant to the ongoing political and socioeconomical environment in the US)