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da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 660	Posted - 2014.04.04 02:42:00 - [1] - Quote Fanfest 2014 Fanfest is less than a month away and obviously many of us that were here since closed beta are kinda pissed that we just now are getting the rest of the racial variants suits. Although the new suits.... and the blasted cloaking which has infested this game has made the game fun for awhile it doesn't change how little progress has been made with uprising and the hype around last years fanfest. But anyways I was wondering, if anyone here is going to fanfest what are you going to be asking CCP? Maybe something like : At fanfest I will say this.. lol maybe but it's probably best not to start raging, but it's best to pretty much explain your anger and tell CCP each one of their mistakes their team in Shanghai did in one whole question when you guys get to ask them. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1758	Posted - 2014.04.04 02:51:00 - [2] - Quote if you do this while im watching the live stream, i WILL laugh at you. you may want to refrase it in a manner in wich you will actually get a useful responce. things like "how satisfied are you guys with the progress you have made in the development of dust this far" "what are you guys doing to bring the game closer to the vision presented at the games inception" ya know things that sound thought out and somewhat intellegent, things that any good marketing team would jump on to answer.

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3211	Posted - 2014.04.04 02:56:00 - [3] - Quote I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 660	Posted - 2014.04.04 02:58:00 - [4] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: if you do this while im watching the live stream, i WILL laugh at you. you may want to refrase it in a manner in wich you will actually get a useful responce. things like "how satisfied are you guys with the progress you have made in the development of dust this far" "what are you guys doing to bring the game closer to the vision presented at the games inception" ya know things that sound thought out and somewhat intellegent, things that any good marketing team would jump on to answer. lol I won't be going to fanfest, but if someone does this I will be laughing and sort of cheering them on. And ya it's probably best to ask questions like the ones you've put. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 661	Posted - 2014.04.04 03:25:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) ya I get it, lol still will be funny to see someone lose cool while trying to ask those questions calmly. But whatever you guys have to show for dust at fanfest might just stop those questions from popping up...... I hope. Cuz after all this time it's really gonna take more than a few suits, and vehicles to restore faith in CCP. And you guys have something more than a few new toys to use right? right?! right?!!!! You see even I'm losing it, but anyways I just hope you guys have something for that MMO side like you guys said in EVE Vegas: more on the MMO less on the FPS. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2133	Posted - 2014.04.04 03:27:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2014.04.04 03:37:00 - [7] - Quote da GAND wrote: Fanfest 2014 Fanfest is less than a month away and obviously many of us that were here since closed beta are kinda pissed that we just now are getting the rest of the racial variants suits. Although the new suits.... and the blasted cloaking which has infested this game has made the game fun for awhile it doesn't change how little progress has been made with uprising and the hype around last years fanfest. But anyways I was wondering, if anyone here is going to fanfest what are you going to be asking CCP? Maybe something like : At fanfest I will say this.. lol maybe but it's probably best not to start raging, but it's best to pretty much explain your anger and tell CCP each one of their mistakes their team in Shanghai did in one whole question when you guys get to ask them. Just ask them how much of this years fanfest is the same type of empty promises as last years was. Watch your back because I might be there.
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 513	Posted - 2014.04.04 03:48:00 - [8] - Quote On the subject of fanfest is there any further details on a twitch stream and any goodies for buying a premium version like last year? Rolling with the punches
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1181	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:11:00 - [9] - Quote Honestly, I don't understand why they make such sweeping, unkeepable promises at fanfest. We're already playing the game, you don't have to sell it twice. Just give us some realistic projections, maybe a neat little trinket to look at(like you teased with cloaks before the beta ended last year.) and for the most part, we'll be happy. You don't have to promise crap that you realistically can't get done with your "we need 20 days a month off" schedules because in the end, that hurts you by making us doubt your every move. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5483	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:14:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Acta Non Verba CCP. *Acta Non Verba* *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance

knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1681	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:16:00 - [11] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. "I speak for the trees!" Ko6 scout,
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1545	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:16:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) How will you improve in these areas: DEV post: we will consider new ideas on deployable turrets, vehicle av and vehicle balance so please post your ideas. DEV post: its two days after patch x.00 and we want you to post in this thread what you consider needs a hotfix. DEV post: we want to improve dropships so post your ideas to improve them. Sounds good. What about that question that I asked you to identify what CCP Dev did not get the tag they wanted?? Thank you. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 460	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:17:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Well tell us what you have planned at this fanfest of yours, then DELIVER on things and I am sure many people will flood back to DUST.
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1363	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:31:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) I actually liked things better back in 1.4 when you would post stuff 3 patches ahead so we had some idea of where things were going. Sure things get pushed back and that's annoying, but getting the dialogue going earlier is much better than later. Do you think we'd be stuck with crappy bonuses on Gal/Cal assault suits if we had begun the conversation a week after 1.7 instead of a few weeks before you had to submit 1.8 to Sony for review? Best PvE idea ever!
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 663	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:55:00 - [15] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I...... agree, first starting off with stations and maybe if CCP gets it figured it out boarding Titans may come along eventually. But in certain situations. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1365	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:09:00 - [16] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point? See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players. Best PvE idea ever!
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 784	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:08:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Is this a new, thoughtful, more grounded CCP Shanghai/Dust 514 team? If this is what you guys are planning at Fanfest--discussing real, upcoming and executable changes for Dust--then you can count me in, and I'm sure the rest of us in as well! >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1197	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:29:00 - [18] - Quote If you have been playing this game steady since E3 the kind of posts the OP makes just don't do it for us... There are things I want from CCP but they don't involve most bad-posters here. In fact atm the only thing that irks me is the scout tanks...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12032	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:36:00 - [19] - Quote I was surprised to realise that they've actually delivered on a fair chunk of the stuff they said they would in the near future from last year. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1682	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:41:00 - [20] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point? See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players. titans are only a kilometer long you'd want a lav too cross one... or a functional tram system. but it wouldn't be too massive. "I speak for the trees!" Ko6 scout,

Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 471	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:45:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I was surprised to realise that they've actually delivered on a fair chunk of the stuff they said they would in the near future from last year. Agreed. And that is despite them having to throw most of their plans out the window after Uprising hit. I'm definitely not impressed by what CCP has done in the past 12 months, but I can see that, in their less-than-ideal ways, they are trying.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1487	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:48:00 - [22] - Quote "Considering the rate at which CCP develops Dust 514, is it safe to tack on a year to whatever dates you provide during Fanfast?" Gets the point across while not being a douche about it. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 788	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:51:00 - [23] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point? See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players. titans are only a kilometer long you'd want a lav too cross one... or a functional tram system. but it wouldn't be too massive. Titans are much longer than a kilometer. A Ragnarok is around 18 km, tied for the longest with the Leviathan. An Erebus is 14.7 km, and an Avatar is the shortest at 13.7 km. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1162	Posted - 2014.04.04 15:58:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Yes it sounds like the same old rhetoric. :/ And you devs have said before that u b genuine. We're still waiting. on a totally different but relevant note, years ago my friend got excited when his watches, uhh, belt was made from Genuine leather. I want to know what kind of animal is Genuine. I bet it's good grilled. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
The Attorney General 2514	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:22:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Real possibilities? As in you want to talk more about what you are planning long term at fanfest? Seriously, what have you guys been doing the last few months? It better not have been spent working so hard on that cluster of a pooch screwing that was the last patch. If that was hard work, then just cancel the game and retool for 3 years from now. Given the silence, there needs to be an announcement of something that is finished, or darn near, and ready to go. It needs to be not small, like a single socket, or a new weapon. It needs to be something to move the game forward. And it should be out shortly thereafter. However, being as this is CCP, I expect some bad screenshots, maybe a teaser video of prerendered trash, and some boring theory talk about where they want Dust to go, with absolutely no discussion about how to get there, or when. If there isn't a real plan for a transition to PS4 by now, I would have serious questions about the ability of the leadership to handle the title. Oh well, it is all a big joke anyway right guys? You guys almost got me to spend some cash on some boosters. Thanks for the heads up that the game still isn't going anywhere anytime soon. More to spend on other games that offer a return on investment. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 672	Posted - 2014.04.04 16:50:00 - [26] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point? See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players. I don't think it's terrible, it's just not possible with the ps3. Maybe small battles to sabatoge the Titan but eventually if this game comes to the ps4, there will be more players and bigger battles and the possibility to take over the Titan. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1983	Posted - 2014.04.04 17:21:00 - [27] - Quote WUBFest 2014 I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 49	Posted - 2014.04.04 17:34:00 - [28] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly, I don't understand why they make such sweeping, unkeepable promises at fanfest. We're already playing the game, you don't have to sell it twice. Just give us some realistic projections, maybe a neat little trinket to look at(like you teased with cloaks before the beta ended last year.) and for the most part, we'll be happy. You don't have to promise crap that you realistically can't get done with your "we need 20 days a month off" schedules because in the end, that hurts you by making us doubt your every move. well said 514MB!!! its a joke right?
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 677	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:11:00 - [29] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: WUBFest 2014 ???? Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 473	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:15:00 - [30] - Quote de GAND.. you should bring toilet paper rolls and give it to them so they can wipe the sh*t off the side of their mouths. #Dud514

137H4RGIC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 148	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:17:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) You sound like the abusive spouse saying you'll never hurt us again, you promise to change. And here I am, believing you - making excuses for you. Lol. I've got my fingers crossed for CCP and DUST
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 677	Posted - 2014.04.04 19:37:00 - [32] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) You sound like the abusive spouse saying you'll never hurt us again, you promise to change. And here I am, believing you - making excuses for you. Lol. I've got my fingers crossed for CCP and DUST lol maybe if CCP actually cares then they'll try to convince this guy not to quit \| https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153767&find=unread http://www.twitch.tv/rnd_jungian Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 684	Posted - 2014.04.05 01:25:00 - [33] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Is this a new, thoughtful, more grounded CCP Shanghai/Dust 514 team? If this is what you guys are planning at Fanfest--discussing real, upcoming and executable changes for Dust--then you can count me in, and I'm sure the rest of us in as well! I guess it might just be cuz of the new EP, hopefully they don't throw all their money at trailers like last year. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Doctor Day THE SUPERHEROS 29	Posted - 2014.04.05 02:02:00 - [34] - Quote Put ina game mode with 32 vs 32 large map pilot dropsuit and jet fighters (Large maps like battlefield 4) Obvious troll is Obvious
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 266	Posted - 2014.04.05 02:14:00 - [35] - Quote Im sure this year CCP will impress us all! No joke! The new commandos should have a better paint job. Look at the Amarr one! 1.8 is fun. Cant wait for the new build!
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2148	Posted - 2014.04.05 02:17:00 - [36] - Quote thesupertman wrote: Im sure this year CCP will impress us all! No joke! Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 684	Posted - 2014.04.05 02:48:00 - [37] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: thesupertman wrote: Im sure this year CCP will impress us all! No joke! Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". Which sounds good, I'd also like to see some awesome things they have ready for the next build like........ PVE ,or Player Market or lots of new things to do. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 3249	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:06:00 - [38] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3524	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:13:00 - [39] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! I hope you are right. I really do. The lower quality of modeling for the latest suits and the big QA fail in 1.8 really destroyed my confidence. Quality seems to be heading in the wrong direction. I'm holding out for FanFest for both EVE and DUST before I leave New Eden for good. Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1255	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:16:00 - [40] - Quote da GAND wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: WUBFest 2014 ???? Not familiar with wub wub, I see. DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1148	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:25:00 - [41] - Quote I complain about Dust quite often. And I beat on CCP, both Mothership and Shanghai. Persistently. This is because I feel that Dust is not a good game anymore. Previously I felt it was a good game with signs of greatness. Now, its mediocre on a good day. A day that I don't lose an expensive forge gun because it didn't fire actually rounds or a tank for much the same reason. And the signs of the future read pay to win. Good luck to New Belles. I only play Dust to play online with my friends. Some of them are quite funny when they rage, so there is that. And so it goes.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 949	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:32:00 - [42] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: I complain about Dust quite often. And I beat on CCP, both Mothership and Shanghai. Persistently. This is because I feel that Dust is not a good game anymore. Previously I felt it was a good game with signs of greatness. Now, its mediocre on a good day. A day that I don't lose an expensive forge gun because it didn't fire actually rounds or a tank for much the same reason. And the signs of the future read pay to win. Good luck to New Belles. I only play Dust to play online with my friends. Some of them are quite funny when they rage, so there is that. where are you getting this P2W bs? "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 670	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:58:00 - [43] - Quote I don't care anymore. This game is nothing like it was in 2009 and unless I see something big at fanfest I'm not coming back. And lol OP I wouldnt know where to begin with all the mistakes made by ccp. I definitely couldn't fit it in one question. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2142	Posted - 2014.04.05 13:07:00 - [44] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: I don't care anymore. This game is nothing like it was in 2009 and unless I see something big at fanfest I'm not coming back. And lol OP I wouldnt know where to begin with all the mistakes made by ccp. I definitely couldn't fit it in one question. Apparently you still care enough to write on the forums. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Big Popa Smurff The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 1014	Posted - 2014.04.05 13:17:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) With whatever is to be announced at fanfest, i hope we dont have to wait almost another year for it to be released... I mean you annouced the other racial suits last fanfest and they only arrived now... Original AFK Hunter
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 672	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:12:00 - [46] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: I don't care anymore. This game is nothing like it was in 2009 and unless I see something big at fanfest I'm not coming back. And lol OP I wouldnt know where to begin with all the mistakes made by ccp. I definitely couldn't fit it in one question. Apparently you still care enough to write on the forums. I never said I wasn't stubborn. While I no longer play there's still some good that can be done if ccp listens before I give up on it completely because it'll never be what it could have or should have been. Ccp has until fanfest to wow me before my account sits idle for ten years and I'll come back then to see what they do with it. Uprising is just more beta as far as I'm concerned. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 338	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:44:00 - [47] - Quote I was very excited when this gam first came out. I have almost lost all hope. 2 weeks after 1.8 and the bugs havent been fixed. What makes you think that this game will get better anytime soon? 4 months into 2014 and just 1 update full of bugs that mainly introduced suits that should have been included the game came out of "beta" last year.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 385	Posted - 2014.04.05 15:55:00 - [48] - Quote I have to agree with the running feeling in here. Having been here for nearly a year now, and having read and watched videos of earlier Dust versions before I arrived, I wonder myself where Dust is heading. There's two main things keeping me here yet. The first is all of the guys in my corp group, as they make playing matches fun. The second is all of the money I've sunk into this game. I've already put hundreds of dollars into Dust (probably way over 1m AUR by now) and if I don't start to see more active development ideas that don't take 3/4 a year to put out, I'm going to stop buying stuff. I seriously hope CCP revitalizes Dust, because as far as I'm concerned, 1.7 (and the majority of Uprising) was a huge disaster and just adding a bunch of extra suits isn't going to fix that. Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
Nstomper Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 472	Posted - 2014.04.05 16:37:00 - [49] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: I don't care anymore. This game is nothing like it was in 2009 and unless I see something big at fanfest I'm not coming back. And lol OP I wouldnt know where to begin with all the mistakes made by ccp. I definitely couldn't fit it in one question. Apparently you still care enough to write on the forums. I never said I wasn't stubborn. While I no longer play there's still some good that can be done if ccp listens before I give up on it completely because it'll never be what it could have or should have been. Ccp has until fanfest to wow me before my account sits idle for ten years and I'll come back then to see what they do with it. Uprising is just more beta as far as I'm concerned. Do not expect to be wowed ,it is better to go in there with real low expectations so that way you wont be disappointed. And this is coming from a guy who defended this game since 2012 but left. I do hope a ps4 version is confirmed i mean if they dont want a crap ass buggy game they have to upgrade. I honestly believe the ps3 is holding this game back i mean look at bf3 vs bf4. bf3 can hold only 16 vs 16 battles while bf4 can hold 32 vs 32 battles. CCP i do hope you understand trying to keep updating a game on piece of crap hardware is only going to cause more problems.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 688	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:47:00 - [50] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: I was very excited when this gam first came out. I have almost lost all hope. 2 weeks after 1.8 and the bugs havent been fixed. What makes you think that this game will get better anytime soon? 4 months into 2014 and just 1 update full of bugs that mainly introduced suits that should have been included the game came out of "beta" last year. I was so excited when I got the beta key towards the end of summer 2012. I was disappointed because I saw nothing that connected this game to EVE, I barely played but I started playing more around the chromosme build. I even made an EVE account for awhile. Over time that link has gotten better but barely, Uprising has mostly been a very disappointing build, while we were impressed from their preview at fanfest and it was interesting to play it for the first month. And even through all the updates more problems kept popping up, dust 514 has stayed as a lobby shooter for way too long. No one right now should call this an MMO-FPS. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This

Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2817	Posted - 2014.04.05 17:57:00 - [51] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: I complain about Dust quite often. And I beat on CCP, both Mothership and Shanghai. Persistently. This is because I feel that Dust is not a good game anymore. Previously I felt it was a good game with signs of greatness. Now, its mediocre on a good day. A day that I don't lose an expensive forge gun because it didn't fire actually rounds or a tank for much the same reason. And the signs of the future read pay to win. Good luck to New Belles. I only play Dust to play online with my friends. Some of them are quite funny when they rage, so there is that. where are you getting this P2W bs? Tiers already promote the idea of pay to win and a lot of the forum peoples suggestions and attitudes actually come really close to wanting pay to win Think of all the guys that say "Of course it should take multiple people to kill someone in proto because it costs more" I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 688	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:54:00 - [52] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! I hope you are right. I really do. The lower quality of modeling for the latest suits and the big QA fail in 1.8 really destroyed my confidence. Quality seems to be heading in the wrong direction. I'm holding out for FanFest for both EVE and DUST before I leave New Eden for good. Ya 1.8 has sort made me wonder if they even thought about releasing the rest of the heavies this year. Not sure if they've been occupied with something else that's awesome or their development team is just that slow which wouldn't be a surprise. It's made me worried even more which isn't good since I've been worried about the games future for a very long already. The communication in CCP Shanghai doesn't seem to be very good, and neither does their programming. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5005	Posted - 2014.04.05 21:12:00 - [53] - Quote da GAND wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! I hope you are right. I really do. The lower quality of modeling for the latest suits and the big QA fail in 1.8 really destroyed my confidence. Quality seems to be heading in the wrong direction. I'm holding out for FanFest for both EVE and DUST before I leave New Eden for good. Ya 1.8 has sort made me wonder if they even thought about releasing the rest of the heavies this year. Not sure if they've been occupied with something else that's awesome or their development team is just that slow which wouldn't be a surprise. It's made me worried even more which isn't good since I've been worried about the games future for a very long already. The communication in CCP Shanghai doesn't seem to be very good, and neither does their programming. I'm curious why that other guy would say he's leaving EVE unless something good happens at FanFest. EVE seems just fine to me right now. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5440	Posted - 2014.04.05 21:18:00 - [54] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! I'm only looking for one thing at Fanfest 2014: Concrete evidence that changes are being made to the development process to establish the groundwork for faster, more logical changes to the game as a whole (rather than the see-saw motion of buffing/nerfing back and forth). Suffice to say, I'll be incredibly disappointed if I see presentations of a bunch of new content that will only exacerbate the problems we're already having with the content we do have by way of adding more work-load to tackle and potentially break. As I said on Twitter, Fanfest 2014 is going to be a make-or-break for many of us. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
APOPHIS Xxx The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 28	Posted - 2014.04.05 21:52:00 - [55] - Quote It is the same old rhetoric. It's not our problem as to where you're coming from. You have to understand where we're coming from! Don't bite the hand that feeds you! Constructive manner? LOL I laugh at that! It's all perspective! You Devs deserve EVERY criticism that comes at you! Don't care if you were not here last year. Not our problem. You're wearing the colors of CCP, therefore it does matter to YOU! Stop sweeping crap under the carpet and step up and take responsibility and stop passing the bucket! Also, what you should be saying is that "We do not wish to overextend and overpromise as BEFORE". Dust is not only a game, it's also a business. I wonder if the stakeholders of CCP ever reads the forum. They should. Don't think much of the devs would be working there if they did. Stakeholders don't want hear excuses. They want results! CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 690	Posted - 2014.04.06 01:26:00 - [56] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! I'm only looking for one thing at Fanfest 2014: Concrete evidence that changes are being made to the development process to establish the groundwork for faster, more logical changes to the game as a whole (rather than the see-saw motion of buffing/nerfing back and forth). Suffice to say, I'll be incredibly disappointed if I see presentations of a bunch of new content that will only exacerbate the problems we're already having with the content we do have by way of adding more work-load to tackle and potentially break. As I said on Twitter, Fanfest 2014 is going to be a make-or-break for many of us. Same for me, CCP has to show us that the this terrible wait through Uprising was worth it. And that they didn't decide to throw away all their money for that statue they're making for EVE. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1552	Posted - 2014.04.06 02:03:00 - [57] - Quote past CCP promises resulted in goof up after goof up after goof up the only question is will CCP deliver at fanfest? and thus we keep dust 514 as a once in a while game? or CCP fails at fanfest and its Playstation 4 games only? the question then is if I and others are busy with Destiny, Doom , The Division, Deep Down , Warframe, Planetside 2, Blacklight, Dying Light, Elder Scrolls, The Witcher 3, et all Then what reason to play dust 514 ???????? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 389	Posted - 2014.04.06 03:09:00 - [58] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on". I assure you what we're showing at Fanfest is going to be things we're actively working on. I wasn't here for last years Fanfest so I don't wish to comment on anything before my tenure. But I know that the things being presented this year are at the forefront of our minds and we're working hard at bringing them to fruition. It's not easy to ask for patience, I understand that. But I have complete faith in CCP Rouge, the team and our direction - and I truly hope you'll be along for the ride. :) Have an awesome weekend guys! I'm only looking for one thing at Fanfest 2014: Concrete evidence that changes are being made to the development process to establish the groundwork for faster, more logical changes to the game as a whole (rather than the see-saw motion of buffing/nerfing back and forth). Suffice to say, I'll be incredibly disappointed if I see presentations of a bunch of new content that will only exacerbate the problems we're already having with the content we do have by way of adding more work-load to tackle and potentially break. As I said on Twitter, Fanfest 2014 is going to be a make-or-break for many of us. I have to agree. Fanfest is going to be a big benchmark for me in this game as to where Dust is going. I like the whole idea behind Dust, and I actually like the game format itself, but it needs to be significantly expanded. If we all keep going with this constant back and forth nerf hammer and super buffing crap like with vehicles and certain guns though, this person will eventually leave as well. I was really fully supportive of Dust until the 1.7 disaster. I don't have a PS4 as I'm waiting for prices to come down, bugs to be worked out, and more content to come out, but I have more than enough games to keep me occupied until then outside of Dust if necessary. Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1784	Posted - 2014.04.06 03:10:00 - [59] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: if you do this while im watching the live stream, i WILL laugh at you. you may want to refrase it in a manner in wich you will actually get a useful responce. things like "how satisfied are you guys with the progress you have made in the development of dust this far" "what are you guys doing to bring the game closer to the vision presented at the games inception" ya know things that sound thought out and somewhat intellegent, things that any good marketing team would jump on to answer. THIS is what you need to do. Tell them the banana represents their game. Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4815	Posted - 2014.04.06 03:36:00 - [60] - Quote People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released. Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST. Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game. Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh? I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 694	Posted - 2014.04.06 04:55:00 - [61] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released. Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST. Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game. Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh? I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope. No one forgot about the player market or the gun Customization, things like the paintbucket, gun customization and the Vita app really aren't going to save the game in it's current state. I've played for nearly two years also, while I didn't buy anything for this game I did make an EVE account and had it for several months. That money for the EVE subscription went to CCP and CCP chose where to use that money and it seems like they chose to use the money from EVE,Dust and investors for all those trailers around last fanfest. Like I've said here in this thread already Fanfest is it for me, after that if it's disappointing (most likely) then this game will be remembered as a failed attempt and it never even got to the point where it could be called an MMO-FPS. But that's if it fails, right now I have no idea what CCP has to show at fanfest. And neither do you (probably, unless you've been paying a dev to tell you what they have, or if you're somehow monitoring CCP's offices in Shanghai). Until Fanfest of 2014 is over we cannot really say if this game is a complete failure. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 293	Posted - 2014.04.06 05:02:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) I really look forward to hearing about what's in the pipe, what's in development, and what's possible before fanfest '15. I hope you'll be clear about what's not possible in that time frame too so we can stop speculating on it!
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4817	Posted - 2014.04.06 09:12:00 - [63] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) I really look forward to hearing about what's in the pipe, what's in development, and what's possible before fanfest '15. I hope you'll be clear about what's not possible in that time frame too so we can stop speculating on it! LOL Expecting CCP to be clear on something they themselves don't know. 2 Years and no actual "road map". I'm not talking about an IW super duper special "road map", I'm talking about a comprehensive, holistic, road map, that points out what CCP want to achieve in DUST (REALISTICALLY, not more pipedreams like mechs and jets), and the time frame they expect to get it done. But anyone here on the forums know that CCP can't do that because they honestly come off like they don't know what they're doing. It looks like they write all their ideas on a board and put a blindfold on to pick what they do next. It's the only reason I can think of why heavy suits took this long to reach. All I can say is keep your expectations low. We've heard all CCPs excuses / reasons, and we've heard all the unrealistic ideas they put out to build "hype". It back fired because they couldn't deliver, and in some regards they took a step backwards (no clan vs clan system in place). One of the best things in DUST (chromosome era) was playing 8v8's without the need to have districts and all that crap. Just make the contract, and boom! ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 973	Posted - 2014.04.06 09:56:00 - [64] - Quote Countdown to fanfest, for your convenience of course "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1553	Posted - 2014.04.06 10:19:00 - [65] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released. Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST. Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game. Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh? I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope. remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace? neither do I but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh! Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4819	Posted - 2014.04.06 10:40:00 - [66] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace? neither do I but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh! pipedreams my friend. CCP is good at selling people great pipedreams. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 26	Posted - 2014.04.06 11:26:00 - [67] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) 1.8 is a blast, i love what you guys have managed to balance out since 1.7. Wish you guys would work a bit more on processing information to the community though. The bugs in 1.8 are vast but proportional to the content you guys provided. Im glad that the patch was released in due time before dust was bleeding out. I really enjoy the new approach in 1.8 even though i was dead scared how cloaking mechanism will alter the game play. The cloaking mechanics have made the game much more challenging and once balanced out, a really great addition. You did an amazing thing there with the Commando, i never thought they would actually ever be useful in game. Hope exploits will be dealt a bit quicker in future. Some exploits like lag bombs have been around for far too long. Cant wait for PCQ 2.0 and more integration to the EVE universe. And i wishPCQ battles will run smoothly again for players all over the world whereever they are located. Hope the EVE part will soon have a greater impact on Dust, start producing suits for the dust mercs and ripe a benefit from PCQ and feel more encouraged to interact with dust players. Cant wait to watch alliance and corp eve ships battling each other in orbit while we are waiting for deployment in the war barge. Hope the ps4 will soon make things happen we barely dreamed of for dust. Make sure to party hard on fan fest and celebrate what you have accomplished so far. I have to find a way to grap me a ticket to celebrate along with you folks and with the gallente chicks. Been a long way since beta, but i have a feeling we cant fully grasp the great things that still lies ahead. "Please fix drop uplink spam"
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3525	Posted - 2014.04.06 13:43:00 - [68] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm curious why that other guy would say he's leaving EVE unless something good happens at FanFest. EVE seems just fine to me right now. As the other guy... EVE is solid and beautiful but after 7 years I'm done. I like being a solo and very small group guy in a big, busy universe. The PVE aspects are very shallow and boring after you've been around for a while. Industry is over saturated. Mining is mind numbing. Exploration is still horribly boring and repetitive. Planetary interaction is only interesting for a week at best. I had hopes with Incarna but the vocal players revolted at it's very thought. All my friends have already moved on. I had hopes for DUST. It was a chance to explore different aspect of New Eden. I was being patient while CCP found its way but quality is declining and communication is still bad. The concept for DUST has been scaled down to a lobby shooter that still hasn't delivered very much. I love the New Eden IP but CCP has a history of failing to deliver. The reason EVE hasn't had a failed release lately is that they have scaled back their plans so far that they are polished but boring. What am I waiting for at FanFest? EVE may be presenting their big stargate building project. I doubt I'll be playing it much though but I'll still watch all the presentations. I'll be surprised if DUST actually presents anything decent and if they do I have low confidence that they can implement it properly. I hope they show PVE and multistage battles. They need long running battles that interact more with EVE but we'll not be seeing that on PS3. Basically, I'm shopping around for a replacement world but Star Citizen is probably 2 years away and nothing else seems interesting. Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12778	Posted - 2014.04.06 14:00:00 - [69] - Quote I've never once seen a game with vets as bitter as ours. Confirming that fanfest is going to be the "make it or break it" point for me My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
DeeJay Two Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.04.06 14:01:00 - [70] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace? neither do I but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh! Back in the day we had small blaster turrets, which were pretty fun, then Skirmis 2.0 came and took it all away - that's why I fear everything with 2.0 in it now...

Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 688	Posted - 2014.04.06 14:10:00 - [71] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm curious why that other guy would say he's leaving EVE unless something good happens at FanFest. EVE seems just fine to me right now. As the other guy... EVE is solid and beautiful but after 7 years I'm done. I like being a solo and very small group guy in a big, busy universe. The PVE aspects are very shallow and boring after you've been around for a while. Industry is over saturated. Mining is mind numbing. Exploration is still horribly boring and repetitive. Planetary interaction is only interesting for a week at best. I had hopes with Incarna but the vocal players revolted at it's very thought. All my friends have already moved on. I had hopes for DUST. It was a chance to explore different aspect of New Eden. I was being patient while CCP found its way but quality is declining and communication is still bad. The concept for DUST has been scaled down to a lobby shooter that still hasn't delivered very much. I love the New Eden IP but CCP has a history of failing to deliver. The reason EVE hasn't had a failed release lately is that they have scaled back their plans so far that they are polished but boring. What am I waiting for at FanFest? EVE may be presenting their big stargate building project. I doubt I'll be playing it much though but I'll still watch all the presentations. I'll be surprised if DUST actually presents anything decent and if they do I have low confidence that they can implement it properly. I hope they show PVE and multistage battles. They need long running battles that interact more with EVE but we'll not be seeing that on PS3. Basically, I'm shopping around for a replacement world but Star Citizen is probably 2 years away and nothing else seems interesting. Don't blame the players over incarna. We wanted walking in stations. Not 70$ monocles and a bunch of microtransactions. Ccp screwed up incarna and now we don't get ambulation because ccp apparently can't tell the difference between walking in stations and nickel & dime'ing people. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 185	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:24:00 - [72] - Quote This is what I expect from ccp: -may13th 2014 DUST 514 Reborn Includes: Player to player trading And a fully functional stock market with massive selling buying and trading. June-December 2014 Includes : Small core features 1new game mode Allaincd control feature for making and joining alliances for dust mercs 1new map 1-2 pve type game modes not including the first game mode I mentioned. I'm only asking for 5-6 things in the next year I don't think that's to much to ask and if it is then that's reall disappointing (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1153	Posted - 2014.04.07 11:13:00 - [73] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: where are you getting this P2W bs? Just math. 1.7 was released with two day one OP weapons, combat and rail rifles both dramatically changed the balance of the battlefield in Dust. They were OP, designed as OP and caused many to muster up the resources to use them as early as possible. The only methods to do that in Dust are SP and a combination of ISK/AUR/LP. AUR and LP allow one to access gear that you have neither the time nor the skills for. 1.8 nerfed them both (and many other items as well) while introducing two day one OP items. The strongest scout suits Dust has ever seen along with the cloak. Guess what it takes to gain early access to them? Hint, see the above paragraph. At least this time the SP was available for some, assuming they gave up on their original suits as they would be rendered useless or at least less effective once the invisi-scout took to the battlefield. I have a record of ISK paid out from last year. The results are clear to one that has been playing since the very first of closed beta. The ISK rewards are dwindling, steadily, consistently, persistently and have been since ~1.6. It used to be that one could find a fit that let you earn some ISK by grinding with a fit that was cheap enough, let you kill enough (or earn WP your way) while not having you die a dozen or more times per match. You still can, but you had better finish in the top four. Those combinations are now reduced. The day one OP gear requires a response. The easiest will be AUR. Gaining LP requires spending AUR or ISK to buy gear that will get destroyed seeking LP. Although it does balance the need for AUR by those without cash the reality of losing ISK means it is more expensive in relationship to time. However, many new items are not in the loyalty store. Each new drop means that those with SP/AUR to burn can use the OP gear on the first day. They will maximize their return. And further CCP/Shanghai's commitment to their path. While Dust seems like F2P, and it was, now the reality of day one OP means that is being left behind. Whether that is on purpose or just a side effect of the standard operating procedures at CCP only time will tell. @HVH, Sorry for the delay in my response, I had not checked in for a bit. KR And so it goes.
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 562	Posted - 2014.04.07 11:51:00 - [74] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point? See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players. titans are only a kilometer long you'd want a lav too cross one... or a functional tram system. but it wouldn't be too massive. Ahem, we're talking Titans here, not Battleships. "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1567	Posted - 2014.04.07 12:42:00 - [75] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: where are you getting this P2W bs? Just math. 1.7 was released with two day one OP weapons, combat and rail rifles both dramatically changed the balance of the battlefield in Dust. They were OP, designed as OP and caused many to muster up the resources to use them as early as possible. The only methods to do that in Dust are SP and a combination of ISK/AUR/LP. AUR and LP allow one to access gear that you have neither the time nor the skills for. 1.8 nerfed them both (and many other items as well) while introducing two day one OP items. The strongest scout suits Dust has ever seen along with the cloak. Guess what it takes to gain early access to them? Hint, see the above paragraph. At least this time the SP was available for some, assuming they gave up on their original suits as they would be rendered useless or at least less effective once the invisi-scout took to the battlefield. I have a record of ISK paid out from last year. The results are clear to one that has been playing since the very first of closed beta. The ISK rewards are dwindling, steadily, consistently, persistently and have been since ~1.6. It used to be that one could find a fit that let you earn some ISK by grinding with a fit that was cheap enough, let you kill enough (or earn WP your way) while not having you die a dozen or more times per match. You still can, but you had better finish in the top four. Those combinations are now reduced. The day one OP gear requires a response. The easiest will be AUR. Gaining LP requires spending AUR or ISK to buy gear that will get destroyed seeking LP. Although it does balance the need for AUR by those without cash the reality of losing ISK means it is more expensive in relationship to time. However, many new items are not in the loyalty store. Each new drop means that those with SP/AUR to burn can use the OP gear on the first day. They will maximize their return. And further CCP/Shanghai's commitment to their path. While Dust seems like F2P, and it was, now the reality of day one OP means that is being left behind. Whether that is on purpose or just a side effect of the standard operating procedures at CCP only time will tell. @HVH, Sorry for the delay in my response, I had not checked in for a bit. KR agreed. kinda getting tired of the op cycles but on the positive side there will be many more ps4 games in a few months Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 797	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:07:00 - [76] - Quote DeeJay Two wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace? neither do I but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh! Back in the day we had small blaster turrets, which were pretty fun, then Skirmis 2.0 came and took it all away - that's why I fear everything with 2.0 in it now... Why were they taken out? Too much spam? I don't get why CCP doesn't just realize the "sandboxy" idea behind the game and allow for some spam--just make it COST. I mean, they had to go with an artificial limit of 2 tanks on spambush because of tank spam, yet that could easily have been solvable by dramatically increasing the price for tanks. And consider that if we did have installations we could call in (and pay for). Maybe the answer to a tank wouldn't just be another tank. Maybe it'd be a rail installation or even a small rail turret. There's options there for installations. If everyone remembers the promo trailer CCP played for Dust, everything had a cost. "Ambush OMS?" Nope. Just "Ambus" and we provide the OMS with our wallets. Maybe the connection with our wallet is what's truly missing. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 714	Posted - 2014.04.07 14:31:00 - [77] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: DeeJay Two wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace? neither do I but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh! Back in the day we had small blaster turrets, which were pretty fun, then Skirmis 2.0 came and took it all away - that's why I fear everything with 2.0 in it now... Why were they taken out? Too much spam? I don't get why CCP doesn't just realize the "sandboxy" idea behind the game and allow for some spam--just make it COST. I mean, they had to go with an artificial limit of 2 tanks on spambush because of tank spam, yet that could easily have been solvable by dramatically increasing the price for tanks. And consider that if we did have installations we could call in (and pay for). Maybe the answer to a tank wouldn't just be another tank. Maybe it'd be a rail installation or even a small rail turret. There's options there for installations. If everyone remembers the promo trailer CCP played for Dust, everything had a cost. "Ambush OMS?" Nope. Just "Ambus" and we provide the OMS with our wallets. Maybe the connection with our wallet is what's truly missing. I was also wondering if getting installations would sort of help with the tank spam, making installations and tanks expensive would help with the spamming of those two also. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 702	Posted - 2014.04.07 18:25:00 - [78] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Vell0cet wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point? See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players. titans are only a kilometer long you'd want a lav too cross one... or a functional tram system. but it wouldn't be too massive. Ahem, we're talking Titans here, not Battleships. That doesn't mean they're just hollow 10mile long football stadiums. They have a doomsday weapon, basically have to be their own jumpgate, all that has to be run through systems. Engines to push the thing along and then it has to have all the modules. An Erebus only has a 16,000 cubic meter cargo bay which isn't alot. An imicus takes up 21,000 We can only estimate how wide titans are and they're length isn't the entirety of a map. it could easily be down to a map we have now made 2/3 times larger. Only real problem is making an accurate layout and texturing a labrinth of corridors. idk how accurate it is on eve wiki or wear they got the figure from but it says there a Titan crew minimum is 6000-10000 That's around aircraft carrier size. Only were gonna hollow more of it out overhead for tanks if they're allowed and we aren't going to be exploring every inch of the ship room by room. Realistically it'd be infantry only unless the common areas were large enough for vehicles which would be funny seeing tanks fight in giant mess halls which I don't think would be wise. It's entirely possible though to make happen. 200 vs 200 would be really cluttered for a 2000 meter long narrow map. It'd be more like 64 vs 64 cqc Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 719	Posted - 2014.04.07 20:11:00 - [79] - Quote @ Auris Lionesse Ah yes something the ps4 will only be able to do, maybe a bit more than 64 vs 64 though. Not sure how much more but I think there should still be more than 64 on each team if we're fighting inside a Titan. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 441	Posted - 2014.04.07 20:20:00 - [80] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. So? If people can jack our HAVs and other vehicles (I.e "personal assets"), then Eve players should be in danger of getting their ships jacked. It would only be fair. This is why I look forward to potential boarding actions in Dust. I want to be able to board the ships of Eve pilots by means of boarding torpedo and fight my way to the bridge and assasinate the clone in it's pod. Asset for asset, clone for clone.

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 725	Posted - 2014.04.07 23:25:00 - [81] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. So? If people can jack our HAVs and other vehicles (I.e "personal assets"), then Eve players should be in danger of getting their ships jacked. It would only be fair. This is why I look forward to potential boarding actions in Dust. I want to be able to board the ships of Eve pilots by means of boarding torpedo and fight my way to the bridge and assasinate the clone in it's pod. Asset for asset, clone for clone. Exactly, when they bring out a ship for battle they risk losing it. Just like when we take out any drop suit for battle, expensive or not it's a risk. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 443	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:24:00 - [82] - Quote da GAND wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: knight of 6 wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) No more "capture the Titan" thing? I was pretty hyped last year :( that was a terrible idea tbh capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset. So? If people can jack our HAVs and other vehicles (I.e "personal assets"), then Eve players should be in danger of getting their ships jacked. It would only be fair. This is why I look forward to potential boarding actions in Dust. I want to be able to board the ships of Eve pilots by means of boarding torpedo and fight my way to the bridge and assasinate the clone in it's pod. Asset for asset, clone for clone. Exactly, when they bring out a ship for battle they risk losing it. Just like when we take out any drop suit for battle, expensive or not it's a risk. Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument against us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 50	Posted - 2014.04.08 12:49:00 - [83] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument against us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless. I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes. Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE!
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 444	Posted - 2014.04.08 13:50:00 - [84] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument ainst us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless. I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes. Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE! Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator? My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all. I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 725	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:40:00 - [85] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument ainst us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless. I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes. Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE! Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator? My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all. I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk. Completely agree, especially on the part where they think they shouldn't be at risk with us dusties around. Just because I'm on a console and this is a fps they think that they are above us. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 52	Posted - 2014.04.08 17:54:00 - [86] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument ainst us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless. I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes. Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE! Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator? My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all. I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk. Nothing stopping them from doing it t all, I just read your statement as a "currently now" kind of thing. I play(ed) EVE for 7 ish years and I'd be all for Dust mercs being able to board ships and do damage from the inside. I think it would have to be limited to titans and supercaps (at least for a long while). Also, I don't see this happening ANY time soon as we still don't have thing's that would need to be in place to accomplish this feat
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 52	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:02:00 - [87] - Quote da GAND wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument ainst us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless. I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes. Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE! Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator? My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all. I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk. Completely agree, especially on the part where they think they shouldn't be at risk with us dusties around. Just because I'm on a console and this is a fps they think that they are above us. They are above you...... Miles and miles above you. :) Oh, I would love the tears if someone lost a titan because someone managed to jack the pod from the inside without a shot ever being fired on the outside. Just imagine: Black Ops ship jumps into system with Titan and cloaks. Approaches the Titan which just so happens to be outside POS Shields. Black Ops decloaks, launches a single probe and cloaks. Only, that probe isn't what it appears to be on scanner and quickly disappears. It disappeared from scan because it's attached itself to the hull and is currently cutting a hole for Mercs to enter through. The Titan quickly (ha, quickly) tries to get back inside shields but it's too late. 6 merc's have managed to get on board. Nanohives and Droplinks, and a new version of the MCRU all appear and suddenly, there's no longer 6 mercs, but 36 mercs on board. The titan pilot realises what is happening and calls go out on all comms for help. At this point, the titan's friendly mercs start popping on board (after suiciding from the fight they were involved in, leaving that district open for the taking) and a new fight emerges on board. One can dream.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 398	Posted - 2014.04.08 19:53:00 - [88] - Quote How many imaginary soldiers can strafe dance inside an imaginary spaceship? That's a classic dilemma, like angels on the head of a pin! Very deep. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 729	Posted - 2014.04.08 21:10:00 - [89] - Quote RayRay James wrote: da GAND wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: RayRay James wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve. There is no viable argument ainst us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless. I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes. Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE! Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator? My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all. I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk. Completely agree, especially on the part where they think they shouldn't be at risk with us dusties around. Just because I'm on a console and this is a fps they think that they are above us. They are above you...... Miles and miles above you. :) Oh, I would love the tears if someone lost a titan because someone managed to jack the pod from the inside without a shot ever being fired on the outside. Just imagine: Black Ops ship jumps into system with Titan and cloaks. Approaches the Titan which just so happens to be outside POS Shields. Black Ops decloaks, launches a single probe and cloaks. Only, that probe isn't what it appears to be on scanner and quickly disappears. It disappeared from scan because it's attached itself to the hull and is currently cutting a hole for Mercs to enter through. The Titan quickly (ha, quickly) tries to get back inside shields but it's too late. 6 merc's have managed to get on board. Nanohives and Droplinks, and a new version of the MCRU all appear and suddenly, there's no longer 6 mercs, but 36 mercs on board. The titan pilot realises what is happening and calls go out on all comms for help. At this point, the titan's friendly mercs start popping on board (after suiciding from the fight they were involved in, leaving that district open for the taking) and a new fight emerges on board. One can dream. Lol not sure about surprises like that with the capsuleer not being able to get dust players to defend the inside of the titan. But if they are near the POS and there is a CRU in the titan then he or she can get dust players to transfer to the bodies in the CRU in the titan. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Leovarian L Lavitz NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 1041	Posted - 2014.04.08 21:39:00 - [90] - Quote An internal titan battle would be a multi-staged fight, starting with the entry point. Winning the entrance battle opens two new titan 'districts' for battle. The attacking force then picks one of the new opened districts and attacks, making their way deeper into the vessel. Losing pushes the attackers further back to their staging point, and winning allows them deeper access to the titan. A titan should have around x districts from entry to victory. While battles are raging inside the titan, the titan remains in space, cannot perform emergency warp. It can warp, unless the warp-drive district has been captured by the attacking mercenaries. The pilot can eject. The pilot can jump, unless the jump-drive district has been captured or is contested by attacking mercenaries. The pilot can activate modules, unless that individual module's district has been captured or is being contested by enemy mercenaries. A titan should have a district created for each module fitted, a district for its drone bay, a district for each of its hangars. The number of district battles is equal to the number of MCCs attacking the titan. Our glorious MCC engages a titan, launching its phased cru at the titan. As long as the MCC is cycling its boarding party module, the battle can continue inside the titan. If the mcc is destroyed, the battle ends in a loss. example: The First MCC engages, activating its boarding parties. Bzzzzooomp, the titan sees that boarding parties are active in his ship, he tells his people to primary the mcc, then, boom, mcc engaged. However, the mcc is telling his friends to give him reps, so he is maintaining his link to the Titan. Ewar engages, breaking the link to the mcc. The battle still continues inside the titan, however, the invaders inside cannot spawn in after their death. Suddenly, the ewar has been destroyed, and the mcc regains his lock on the titan and reactivates his boarding party module. The invaders can spawn in again, hurrah! More and more MCCs engage, up to 36, creating 36 battles inside of the titan, moving closer to the core. Suddenly, no longer able to control the ship, his guns have gone offline, his hi-slots, mid slots, and low slots are all offline, his various bays are locked and he can no longer warp or jump, his capacitor is no longer charging, the pilot finds himself having been forcibly ejected from his ship. Omni-Soldier Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.

Onesimus Tarsus 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1853	Posted - 2014.04.08 21:42:00 - [91] - Quote Every time a FW battle ends, a random ship of the losing faction explodes EvE-side. 1.8 (!) forum warrior. SMG wielder. Mama's boy. 703rd for life! (or at least, for now).
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 729	Posted - 2014.04.08 22:54:00 - [92] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: An internal titan battle would be a multi-staged fight, starting with the entry point. Winning the entrance battle opens two new titan 'districts' for battle. The attacking force then picks one of the new opened districts and attacks, making their way deeper into the vessel. Losing pushes the attackers further back to their staging point, and winning allows them deeper access to the titan. A titan should have around x districts from entry to victory. While battles are raging inside the titan, the titan remains in space, cannot perform emergency warp. It can warp, unless the warp-drive district has been captured by the attacking mercenaries. The pilot can eject. The pilot can jump, unless the jump-drive district has been captured or is contested by attacking mercenaries. The pilot can activate modules, unless that individual module's district has been captured or is being contested by enemy mercenaries. A titan should have a district created for each module fitted, a district for its drone bay, a district for each of its hangars. The number of district battles is equal to the number of MCCs attacking the titan. Our glorious MCC engages a titan, launching its phased cru at the titan. As long as the MCC is cycling its boarding party module, the battle can continue inside the titan. If the mcc is destroyed, the battle ends in a loss. example: The First MCC engages, activating its boarding parties. Bzzzzooomp, the titan sees that boarding parties are active in his ship, he tells his people to primary the mcc, then, boom, mcc engaged. However, the mcc is telling his friends to give him reps, so he is maintaining his link to the Titan. Ewar engages, breaking the link to the mcc. The battle still continues inside the titan, however, the invaders inside cannot spawn in after their death. Suddenly, the ewar has been destroyed, and the mcc regains his lock on the titan and reactivates his boarding party module. The invaders can spawn in again, hurrah! More and more MCCs engage, up to 36, creating 36 battles inside of the titan, moving closer to the core. Suddenly, no longer able to control the ship, his guns have gone offline, his hi-slots, mid slots, and low slots are all offline, his various bays are locked and he can no longer warp or jump, his capacitor is no longer charging, the pilot finds himself having been forcibly ejected from his ship. Interesting....... maybe there could be sabotage missions for certain modules on Titans. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 729	Posted - 2014.04.09 03:49:00 - [93] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: Countdown to fanfest, for your convenience of course Thnx for this lol Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1175	Posted - 2014.04.09 12:15:00 - [94] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: agreed. kinda getting tired of the op cycles but on the positive side there will be many more ps4 games in a few months Planetside 2 on Steam now and PS4 E3 time I would guess. If Titanfall hadn't been grabbed by MS and had made to PS4 that probably would have pushed me over the purchasing edge for one. You're right though, many new games in the pipe. When you look past the dust. And so it goes.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 732	Posted - 2014.04.09 14:41:00 - [95] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: I don't care anymore. This game is nothing like it was in 2009 and unless I see something big at fanfest I'm not coming back. And lol OP I wouldnt know where to begin with all the mistakes made by ccp. I definitely couldn't fit it in one question. What they were showing in 2009 was gameplay on a different engine, it's called the Carbon Engine. And when CCP figured out that the ps3 could hardly run the carbon engine they started over with the Unreal Engine which is what we play on right now. So it's going to take along to for CCP to make as much progress on the Unreal Engine as the amount of progress that was done on the carbon engine . Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 732	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:20:00 - [96] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: agreed. kinda getting tired of the op cycles but on the positive side there will be many more ps4 games in a few months Planetside 2 on Steam now and PS4 E3 time I would guess. If Titanfall hadn't been grabbed by MS and had made to PS4 that probably would have pushed me over the purchasing edge for one. You're right though, many new games in the pipe. When you look past the dust. Got Planetside 2 on the PC not too long ago and it was alright, problem with it is that it's mainly just a shooter. It's not a bad thing though, it's just not a replacement for Dust 514. Games like The Dvivision and Destiny I can consider replacements for Dust 514. Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2177	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:50:00 - [97] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released. Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST. Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game. Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh? I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope. ^ I also want to add that, dust has not evolved in ANY WAY towards a MMO during 2013, which is the games main differentiator compared to other FPS. Its only buffs and nerfs. Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 732	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:52:00 - [98] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released. Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST. Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game. Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh? I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope. ^ I also want to add that, dust has not evolved in ANY WAY towards a MMO during 2013, which is the games main differentiator compared to other FPS. Its only buffs and nerfs. Exactly the problem all through Uprising, what's suppose to be it's biggest strength/ what's suppose to make it stand out (MMO-FPS+Sandbox+its link to EVE online) is its biggest weakness. Rage at Fanfest??
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 835	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:18:00 - [99] - Quote I doubt there will actually be a FanFest. It's just another CCP promise. Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 732	Posted - 2014.04.10 22:38:00 - [100] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: I doubt there will actually be a FanFest. It's just another CCP promise. Munch lolz no there will be a fanfest( I hope) Rage at Fanfest??

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 732	Posted - 2014.04.10 23:03:00 - [101] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I was surprised to realise that they've actually delivered on a fair chunk of the stuff they said they would in the near future from last year. Agreed. And that is despite them having to throw most of their plans out the window after Uprising hit. I'm definitely not impressed by what CCP has done in the past 12 months, but I can see that, in their less-than-ideal ways, they are trying. agreed, it seems like they are actually trying with 1.7 and 1.8. I just hope that it's not too late. Rage at Fanfest??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1577	Posted - 2014.04.10 23:25:00 - [102] - Quote da GAND wrote: Stefan Stahl wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I was surprised to realise that they've actually delivered on a fair chunk of the stuff they said they would in the near future from last year. Agreed. And that is despite them having to throw most of their plans out the window after Uprising hit. I'm definitely not impressed by what CCP has done in the past 12 months, but I can see that, in their less-than-ideal ways, they are trying. agreed, it seems like they are actually trying with 1.7 and 1.8. I just hope that it's not too late. it looks like they are trying. on the other hand the feedback/game development forums scream not interested/not careing due to lack of organization. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 732	Posted - 2014.04.11 01:00:00 - [103] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: da GAND wrote: Stefan Stahl wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I was surprised to realise that they've actually delivered on a fair chunk of the stuff they said they would in the near future from last year. Agreed. And that is despite them having to throw most of their plans out the window after Uprising hit. I'm definitely not impressed by what CCP has done in the past 12 months, but I can see that, in their less-than-ideal ways, they are trying. agreed, it seems like they are actually trying with 1.7 and 1.8. I just hope that it's not too late. it looks like they are trying. on the other hand the feedback/game development forums scream not interested/not careing due to lack of organization. Yup I'm not interested that much in the new suits and weapons, it's still ambush, skirmish and domination over and over again with a few new toys. Sort of seems like 1.8 was rushed cuz of some of the texture on the new heavies. At least it seems like they are trying, but it won't matter at all if they don't have anything close to THIS!! before Destinys release and before everyone reaches their limit with Dust 514. Rage at Fanfest??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1578	Posted - 2014.04.11 02:52:00 - [104] - Quote da GAND wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: da GAND wrote: Stefan Stahl wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I was surprised to realise that they've actually delivered on a fair chunk of the stuff they said they would in the near future from last year. Agreed. And that is despite them having to throw most of their plans out the window after Uprising hit. I'm definitely not impressed by what CCP has done in the past 12 months, but I can see that, in their less-than-ideal ways, they are trying. agreed, it seems like they are actually trying with 1.7 and 1.8. I just hope that it's not too late. it looks like they are trying. on the other hand the feedback/game development forums scream not interested/not careing due to lack of organization. Yup I'm not interested that much in the new suits and weapons, it's still ambush, skirmish and domination over and over again with a few new toys. Sort of seems like 1.8 was rushed cuz of some of the texture on the new heavies. At least it seems like they are trying, but it won't matter at all if they don't have anything close to THIS!! before Destinys release and before everyone reaches their limit with Dust 514. once 1.8 hit I just concentrated on clearing my PS3 backlog of games. May is going to be FFX HD/ Kingdom Hearts and June/ July is probably PS4 Planetside 2, Warframe, Watch Dogs, Infamous so its going to be a case of hardly any time for Dust 514. August its PS4 Diablo 3, probably Dying Light. Toss in the September Destiny Beta/ full release right after and its looking a bit grim as far as finding time for Dust 514. Real burn out on ambush, domination and skirmish. So burn out on Dust 514 that I am just waiting on Fanfest to sample whatever they have but probably will just sample the build for a few days before no longer playing until it maybe? jumps to PS4? Problem then if its April 2015 and its play Dust 514 or play The Witcher 3, The Division, Destiny and other PS4 games. Probably going to say sorry CCP?? no time for an underdeveloped game any more. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Principus Shmoof Triariian Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services Armed-n-Hammered 86	Posted - 2014.04.11 03:40:00 - [105] - Quote Less nerf/buff, more new content please
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 734	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:55:00 - [106] - Quote Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: Less nerf/buff, more new content please Too much nerfing and buffing for a whole year, while there will always need to be some adjusting to new weapons,suits, and vehicles it really shouldn't take this long to do such things. But how many programmers and how long does it take to change the stats on one weapon, dropsuit or vehicle? I don't know how big their dev team for Dust is but cmon are their programmers really that bad? I've been told or heard plenty of times in squads I've been in that CCP's programmers are so ******* terrible. Rage at Fanfest??
Principus Shmoof Triariian Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services Armed-n-Hammered 93	Posted - 2014.04.11 17:36:00 - [107] - Quote da GAND wrote: Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: Less nerf/buff, more new content please Too much nerfing and buffing for a whole year, while there will always need to be some adjusting to new weapons,suits, and vehicles it really shouldn't take this long to do such things. But how many programmers and how long does it take to change the stats on one weapon, dropsuit or vehicle? I don't know how big their dev team for Dust is but cmon are their programmers really that bad? I've been told or heard plenty of times in squads I've been in that CCP's programmers are so ******* terrible. They don't have a large team of developers, and the longer they spend catering to those people who whine and cry about "THIS IS OP THIS IS UP NERF THIS BUFF THAT WAH WAH WAH", the less time they have to add more vehicles, weapons, maps, suits, or, the big one, more EVE link. If the cycle of of buffing and nerfing continues, the game will take longer to balance. Nerfing/Buffing cycles are not balancing, balancing is what we want to have, but when you go to these here forums saying "Tanks are super OP, nerf them", and they get nerfed into near worthlessness, have you balanced the game? Or was your goal of making tanks soloable by a militia swarm accomplished because you can't be bothered to play as a team (This is purely an example and "you" does not refer to the person I'm quoting). Honestly, just keep things as they are, and if something needs to be balancing, let it be balanced, and let's start demanding for new things, not nerf/buffs.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 734	Posted - 2014.04.11 18:03:00 - [108] - Quote Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: da GAND wrote: Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: Less nerf/buff, more new content please Too much nerfing and buffing for a whole year, while there will always need to be some adjusting to new weapons,suits, and vehicles it really shouldn't take this long to do such things. But how many programmers and how long does it take to change the stats on one weapon, dropsuit or vehicle? I don't know how big their dev team for Dust is but cmon are their programmers really that bad? I've been told or heard plenty of times in squads I've been in that CCP's programmers are so ******* terrible. They don't have a large team of developers, and the longer they spend catering to those people who whine and cry about "THIS IS OP THIS IS UP NERF THIS BUFF THAT WAH WAH WAH", the less time they have to add more vehicles, weapons, maps, suits, or, the big one, more EVE link. If the cycle of of buffing and nerfing continues, the game will take longer to balance. Nerfing/Buffing cycles are not balancing, balancing is what we want to have, but when you go to these here forums saying "Tanks are super OP, nerf them", and they get nerfed into near worthlessness, have you balanced the game? Or was your goal of making tanks soloable by a militia swarm accomplished because you can't be bothered to play as a team (This is purely an example and "you" does not refer to the person I'm quoting). Honestly, just keep things as they are, and if something needs to be balancing, let it be balanced, and let's start demanding for new things, not nerf/buffs. Ya right now I like the way the gameplay is right now , with fanfest close I'd like to get some new things to do other than amb,skirm, and domination over and over again. Rage at Fanfest??
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 735	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:52:00 - [109] - Quote @Tech Ohm Eaven that burn out is and has been a reminder of how dust can get boring quickly. Rage at Fanfest??
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 739	Posted - 2014.04.12 16:00:00 - [110] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: "Considering the rate at which CCP develops Dust 514, is it safe to tack on a year to whatever dates you provide during Fanfast?" Gets the point across while not being a douche about it. that's actually something I'd be willing to ask when they let people ask questions, but I'm not going so if someone that's going can write that question down for fanfest above that would be great lol Rage at Fanfest??

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 758	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:50:00 - [111] - Quote LEHON Xeon wrote: I have to agree with the running feeling in here. Having been here for nearly a year now, and having read and watched videos of earlier Dust versions before I arrived, I wonder myself where Dust is heading. There's two main things keeping me here yet. The first is all of the guys in my corp group, as they make playing matches fun. The second is all of the money I've sunk into this game. I've already put hundreds of dollars into Dust (probably way over 1m AUR by now) and if I don't start to see more active development ideas that don't take 3/4 a year to put out, I'm going to stop buying stuff. I seriously hope CCP revitalizes Dust, because as far as I'm concerned, 1.7 (and the majority of Uprising) was a huge disaster and just adding a bunch of extra suits isn't going to fix that. We need more interfacing with EVE to make us actually relevant to the EVE universe. There should be an implementation of where our fights on the ground actually change things EVE-side. I've always been for something like from Star Wars Battlefront 2 where you could fight in space in ships or installations on foot, and also on the ground on planets. Something like that combined with the player market could be a huge boost for Dust. +1 completely agree, while Uprising was impressive at last fanfest and for the first few days of having it.....there's been nothing to do but play the same modes we've been stuck with for too damn long. There is no " This is New Eden " feeling, there is MMO or Sandbox part in this FPS. CCP needs something like the Dust Keynote in 2009, where they first showed Dust players requesting an orbital strike and the EVE ship firing down onto the planets surface. It was sort of "evolutionary ", it's really gonna have to be that great at this point. Rage at Fanfest??
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 758	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:25:00 - [112] - Quote And to continue on that last comment + explaining what I meant towards the end of that comment. More on that link between EVE and Dust needs to be seen in between both games. A simple example: contracts that EVE players can offer us and contracts that Dust players can offer to EVE players. Other ideas have already been discussed and/or could be thought of easily. I've got enough Dropsuits and everyone knows that new vehicles shouldn't be primary on CCP Shanghais list of "things long overdue for Dust 514" Rage at Fanfest??
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 457	Posted - 2014.04.16 00:43:00 - [113] - Quote As someone that is planning to buy another ps3 for this game, I would really hate to have CCP announce a ps4 version during fanfest :/
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 758	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:11:00 - [114] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: As someone that is planning to buy another ps3 for this game, I would really hate to have CCP announce a ps4 version during fanfest :/ Although a ps4 version sounds great CCP has yet to get the ps3 version right. I think it's gonna be at least two years till CCP has a playable ps4 version. Rage at Fanfest??
Omega Black Zero Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:34:00 - [115] - Quote I'd imagine Titan battles would be sequential events, first the boarding aspect, and if the attackers win, it would continue onto the next area, maybe the engine room or the bridge depending on the tactics of the attackers. Just because a Titan is huge doesn't mean that the battle has to encompass the entire ship for the entire fight.
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 294	Posted - 2014.04.16 01:55:00 - [116] - Quote Eye sooooouuuuuu excccieted! The new commandos should have a better paint job. Look at the Amarr one! Please bring back the Warbage! MTACs?
bear90211 Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 196	Posted - 2014.04.16 02:27:00 - [117] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: How much USD currncy would it take to buy CCP? Im serious. I have something that, can make me a billionaire and also stop the use of nuclear power in many countries. Oops, made it look like you said that. its fixed now :) My sig is suuper old.. now i rip faces with my HMG. looking for logies yo.btw #tacos
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 759	Posted - 2014.04.16 03:05:00 - [118] - Quote bear90211 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: How much USD currncy would it take to buy CCP? Im serious. I have something that, can make me a billionaire and also stop the use of nuclear power in many countries. Oops, made it look like you said that. its fixed now :) Setting up in Shanghai kind of makes me ask a few questions, why set up in Shanghai for Dust 514? Is it cheaper to get office space in Shanghai than it is in Iceland? Are you able to pay some people you hire from Shanghai or any other economic free zone in China so much less than you can pay people from any where else in the world? Not saying that you don't have people that aren't from China though( I don't know though so I can't be sure at all ) How much attention does CCP give the development of Dust 514? I ask that last question because Shanghai is really damn far away from Reykjavik. Kind of looks like they put that development team in the corner of the world lolz. Rage at Fanfest??
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1589	Posted - 2014.04.16 03:48:00 - [119] - Quote da GAND wrote: bear90211 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: How much USD currncy would it take to buy CCP? Im serious. I have something that, can make me a billionaire and also stop the use of nuclear power in many countries. Oops, made it look like you said that. its fixed now :) Setting up in Shanghai kind of makes me ask a few questions, why set up in Shanghai for Dust 514? Is it cheaper to get office space in Shanghai than it is in Iceland? Are you able to pay some people you hire from Shanghai or any other economic free zone in China so much less than you can pay people from any where else in the world? Not saying that you don't have people that aren't from China though( I don't know though so I can't be sure at all ) How much attention does CCP give the development of Dust 514? I ask that last question because Shanghai is really damn far away from Reykjavik. Kind of looks like they put that development team in the corner of the world lolz. Problems for them is its 12 hours aka night for them when its day for us. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12790	Posted - 2014.04.16 04:12:00 - [120] - Quote I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion

Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 726	Posted - 2014.04.16 04:25:00 - [121] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. couldnt agree more, your not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 759	Posted - 2014.04.16 04:40:00 - [122] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. couldnt agree more, your not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable same, just hoping for Fanfest to be awesome. Rage at Fanfest??
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12790	Posted - 2014.04.16 04:44:00 - [123] - Quote da GAND wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. couldnt agree more, your not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable same, just hoping for Fanfest to be awesome. I want nothing more than for this game to thrive, but I've felt for far too long that this game is nothing more than a side project to CCP, and I as a paying customer have felt anywhere from disappointed to straight up insulted more times than I care to admit. I've watched countless amazingly well thought out and calculated posts / discussions just disappear into the void with little more than a 'ooh that's interesting' from a blue, to the point where I have lost all desire to provide constructive feedback anymore. For the sake of the love I had for this game, I do not actively bash it or talk down to it, but I have stopped making content, I've stopped talking about it, I've stopped promoting and generally playing it. Right now, it's just not worth the frustration. It feels completely divorced from EVE an entirely devoid of direction, and until I feel like CCP is taking the game seriously, I will not waste any more time and energy on it. The ball is in CCP's court, now we can only wait. My DUST 514 Music Videos Solo Incubus pilot, superb expert of wallet depletion
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 760	Posted - 2014.04.16 11:54:00 - [124] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: da GAND wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. couldnt agree more, your not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable same, just hoping for Fanfest to be awesome. I want nothing more than for this game to thrive, but I've felt for far too long that this game is nothing more than a side project to CCP, and I as a paying customer have felt anywhere from disappointed to straight up insulted more times than I care to admit. I've watched countless amazingly well thought out and calculated posts / discussions just disappear into the void with little more than a 'ooh that's interesting' from a blue, to the point where I have lost all desire to provide constructive feedback anymore. For the sake of the love I had for this game, I do not actively bash it or talk down to it, but I have stopped making content, I've stopped talking about it, I've stopped promoting and generally playing it. Right now, it's just not worth the frustration. It feels completely divorced from EVE an entirely devoid of direction, and until I feel like CCP is taking the game seriously, I will not waste any more time and energy on it. The ball is in CCP's court, now we can only wait. Ah so that's why I haven't seen you upload any new vids for Dust, right now talking about the possibilities is the only thing that keep some people interested. But that's a problem, there are better things to say about its possible future than its current state. Rage at Fanfest??
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 547	Posted - 2014.04.16 12:33:00 - [125] - Quote Pretty disappointed that there isn't anything for our DUST mercs on the Twitch HD stream this year. any chance something will be thrown in before FF gets here Rolling with the punches
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 760	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:52:00 - [126] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty disappointed that there isn't anything for our DUST mercs on the Twitch HD stream this year. any chance something will be thrown in before FF gets here What do you mean? Why wouldn't CCP be showing anything for Dust at fanfest? Or are u talking about people getting stuff for paying for the HD stream thingy on twitch. Rage at Fanfest??
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 459	Posted - 2014.04.16 22:33:00 - [127] - Quote da GAND wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty disappointed that there isn't anything for our DUST mercs on the Twitch HD stream this year. any chance something will be thrown in before FF gets here What do you mean? Why wouldn't CCP be showing anything for Dust at fanfest? Or are u talking about people getting stuff for paying for the HD stream thingy on twitch. He means that CCP is giving special in-game items for EVE Capsuleers who subscribed to their HD stream but there are no Dust-related bonuses
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 760	Posted - 2014.04.16 23:12:00 - [128] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: da GAND wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty disappointed that there isn't anything for our DUST mercs on the Twitch HD stream this year. any chance something will be thrown in before FF gets here What do you mean? Why wouldn't CCP be showing anything for Dust at fanfest? Or are u talking about people getting stuff for paying for the HD stream thingy on twitch. He means that CCP is giving special in-game items for EVE Capsuleers who subscribed to their HD stream but there are no Dust-related bonuses Oh well that sucks for Dust players that subscribed to CCPs channel on twitch. Rage at Fanfest??
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3514	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:58:00 - [129] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly, I don't understand why they make such sweeping, unkeepable promises at fanfest. We're already playing the game, you don't have to sell it twice. Just give us some realistic projections, maybe a neat little trinket to look at(like you teased with cloaks before the beta ended last year.) and for the most part, we'll be happy. You don't have to promise crap that you realistically can't get done with your "we need 20 days a month off" schedules because in the end, that hurts you by making us doubt your every move. because its pretty depressing what they can realistically get done if they dont try and add the hype lol Preacher of #Logic & Godfather of Molden Heath, Playing better more competitive & balanced games atm while DUST gets gud
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3514	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:26:00 - [130] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I've never once seen a game with vets as bitter as ours. Confirming that fanfest is going to be the "make it or break it" point for me thats becuz alot of us came to this game because we heard of the concept and the promise that CCP is "different" from other devs and they communicate and listen to their community and all that jibberish in the 2 years i was actively playing DUST has not progressed its gone sideways and slightly backwards not forward Skirmish 1.0 was alot better than the "improved" skirmish 2.0 and skirmish 1.0 would of made sense in PC , ccp goin backwards. Gladiator arenas with EVE side betting on matches to be 1st expansion for DUST? who remembers this pipedream? for the person who said gun customization not important id disagree, it adds depth and variety to the game DUST guns were suppose to have mod slots as well that was talked about another pipedream instead u have 3 diff guns to buy from the marketplace which are just sight, fire rate variations which a gun customization feature would of solved and done a much better job of PvE? lol ppl have every right to be as bitter as they are, **** im surprised so many still cling and tolerate their bs so much. The Shanghai team is just awful at making a FPS and being stuck on PS3 doesnt help Preacher of #Logic & Godfather of Molden Heath, Playing better more competitive & balanced games atm while DUST gets gud

Silver Strike44 Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 22	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:42:00 - [131] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. couldnt agree more, YOUR not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable *you're Filler
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 786	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:54:00 - [132] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've never once seen a game with vets as bitter as ours. Confirming that fanfest is going to be the "make it or break it" point for me thats becuz alot of us came to this game because we heard of the concept and the promise that CCP is "different" from other devs and they communicate and listen to their community and all that jibberish in the 2 years i was actively playing DUST has not progressed its gone sideways and slightly backwards not forward Skirmish 1.0 was alot better than the "improved" skirmish 2.0 and skirmish 1.0 would of made sense in PC , ccp goin backwards. Gladiator arenas with EVE side betting on matches to be 1st expansion for DUST? who remembers this pipedream? for the person who said gun customization not important id disagree, it adds depth and variety to the game DUST guns were suppose to have mod slots as well that was talked about another pipedream instead u have 3 diff guns to buy from the marketplace which are just sight, fire rate variations which a gun customization feature would of solved and done a much better job of PvE? lol ppl have every right to be as bitter as they are, **** im surprised so many still cling and tolerate their bs so much. The Shanghai team is just awful at making a FPS and being stuck on PS3 doesnt help Completely correct, the game hasn't evolved and has remained a lobby shooter with a very poor link to EVE online. Rage at Fanfest??
The Attorney General 2615	Posted - 2014.04.18 15:11:00 - [133] - Quote After reading the rest of this thread I see why CCP keeps this farce going. How is it that people who have been here for more than a year are STILL giving CCP money? Do you people not understand that rewarding them for bad behaviour does not motivate them to good results? I pretty much shut my wallet to SHanghai after Uprising dropped. It was just too much BS for all the hype they built up. I just reactivated some of my Eve accounts, and I very quickly realized that playing Dust as it is now is just a huge pain in my ass. I log on for PCs, and I AFK my fatty alt until they fix the skill bug. More than likely I will biomass my toons after fanfest if the announcement is bad. Which I fully expect. I might jump the gun though if the alleged hotfix to the skills bug doesn't show up. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 786	Posted - 2014.04.18 15:44:00 - [134] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: After reading the rest of this thread I see why CCP keeps this farce going. How is it that people who have been here for more than a year are STILL giving CCP money? Do you people not understand that rewarding them for bad behaviour does not motivate them to good results? I pretty much shut my wallet to SHanghai after Uprising dropped. It was just too much BS for all the hype they built up. I just reactivated some of my Eve accounts, and I very quickly realized that playing Dust as it is now is just a huge pain in my ass. I log on for PCs, and I AFK my fatty alt until they fix the skill bug. More than likely I will biomass my toons after fanfest if the announcement is bad. Which I fully expect. I might jump the gun though if the alleged hotfix to the skills bug doesn't show up. Same for me but don't waste your time waiting nine hours to bio-mass your character lol just delete dust from your ps3 and trade it in to cover some of the cost of the ps4. I'm hoping for something great at fanfest, not vehicles or new guns but new things to do, more of that game evolving/ better link to EVE/ creating items, Player Market, PVE. Rage at Fanfest??
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:13:00 - [135] - Quote Guilbert 515 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) 1.8 is a blast, i love what you guys have managed to balance out since 1.7. Wish you guys would work a bit more on processing information to the community though. The bugs in 1.8 are vast but proportional to the content you guys provided. Im glad that the patch was released in due time before dust was bleeding out. I really enjoy the new approach in 1.8 even though i was dead scared how cloaking mechanism will alter the game play. The cloaking mechanics have made the game much more challenging and once balanced out, a really great addition. You did an amazing thing there with the Commando, i never thought they would actually ever be useful in game. Hope exploits will be dealt a bit quicker in future. Some exploits like lag bombs have been around for far too long. Cant wait for PCQ 2.0 and more integration to the EVE universe. And i wishPCQ battles will run smoothly again for players all over the world whereever they are located. Hope the EVE part will soon have a greater impact on Dust, start producing suits for the dust mercs and ripe a benefit from PCQ and feel more encouraged to interact with dust players. Cant wait to watch alliance and corp eve ships battling each other in orbit while we are waiting for deployment in the war barge. Hope the ps4 will soon make things happen we barely dreamed of for dust. Make sure to party hard on fan fest and celebrate what you have accomplished so far. I have to find a way to grap me a ticket to celebrate along with you folks and with the gallente chicks. Been a long way since beta, but i have a feeling we cant fully grasp the great things that still lies ahead. I take it all back! Thank you for spitting into our face. "Please fix drop uplink spam"
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 664	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:18:00 - [136] - Quote I feel bad for anyone who went to Fanfest for DUST.
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 42	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 - [137] - Quote Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! "Please fix drop uplink spam"
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2378	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:44:00 - [138] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I've grown quite lethargic when it comes to this game. If the actual meat and potatoes of the Fanfest build doesn't blow me away, I will likely lose what little faith I have left in this project, which makes me really sad to say. couldnt agree more, your not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable lol a decade? 1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support. Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2378	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 - [139] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly, I don't understand why they make such sweeping, unkeepable promises at fanfest. We're already playing the game, you don't have to sell it twice. Just give us some realistic projections, maybe a neat little trinket to look at(like you teased with cloaks before the beta ended last year.) and for the most part, we'll be happy. You don't have to promise crap that you realistically can't get done with your "we need 20 days a month off" schedules because in the end, that hurts you by making us doubt your every move. because its pretty depressing what they can realistically get done if they dont try and add the hype lol But hey, at least the gun fires. 1-800-345-SONY Press 2, then 2 again for PSN support. Get your refund today, be polite, they want to refund you.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 856	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:42:00 - [140] - Quote Guilbert 515 wrote: Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! Maybe not, if our characters stats are gonna be transferred and maybe the isk you've got right now. It's Dust 514 still but better and seems like it'll develop so much faster. I think they said they've only been working on Legion for a few months, if that's true we might just get a beta sometime this year. Rage at Fanfest??

Thokk Nightshade Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 147	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:46:00 - [141] - Quote Guilbert 515 wrote: Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! Did your corp know something about this? ya know, Rise of Legion and all? 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Meknow Intaki 225	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:57:00 - [142] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) I understand you hate dust and want it to die like the rest of the Devs =ƒÿÆ
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 656	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:03:00 - [143] - Quote I was just reading through this thread and the answers were there for us. No special items for ordering the stream, no chest thumping from Dev's like last year beforehand. It was ALL written for us but we couldn't see it LOL While you're at it CCP, suck the middle of my dick!
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 70	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:09:00 - [144] - Quote da GAND wrote: Guilbert 515 wrote: Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! Maybe not, if our characters stats are gonna be transferred and maybe the isk you've got right now. It's Dust 514 still but better and seems like it'll develop so much faster. I think they said they've only been working on Legion for a few months, if that's true we might just get a beta sometime this year. I dont care how much faster its developed, if they had used their resources for dust rather than for another project they could have made dust even better, and with the development on the console generations even greater. The pc is an entirely different target group of players. My Corp and my alliance are made of mostly Console players. I kissed my PC good bye just because of the privacy invasion, hacking, exploitation, cheats, driver problems/ceasing support. I was glad that dust was released on a console. Now all this will come back to Legion. People who can cope and afford time and money into PC gaming might enjoy the transition of dust. But then there are much more entertaining alternatives on the PC FPS and MMO market. I would even consider spekking into a new PC hardware, if i wasnt directing a corp and alliance of players being part of a community that have been shitted upon ruthlessly. "Please fix drop uplink spam"
Guilbert 515 United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 71	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:23:00 - [145] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: Guilbert 515 wrote: Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! Did your corp know something about this? ya know, Rise of Legion and all? Nope, even though we were among the first entering PCQ and capturing the first districts, being given a dev blog on the dust side, CCP never tryed to convey any information to representatives of the larger alliances. Even by now we dont know who was "representing" the "dust community" and managed to screw up this game and its future perspective so bad that it came this far. Everyone is in shock. "Please fix drop uplink spam"
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 857	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:05:00 - [146] - Quote Guilbert 515 wrote: da GAND wrote: Guilbert 515 wrote: Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! Maybe not, if our characters stats are gonna be transferred and maybe the isk you've got right now. It's Dust 514 still but better and seems like it'll develop so much faster. I think they said they've only been working on Legion for a few months, if that's true we might just get a beta sometime this year. I dont care how much faster its developed, if they had used their resources for dust rather than for another project they could have made dust even better, and with the development on the console generations even greater. The pc is an entirely different target group of players. My Corp and my alliance are made of mostly Console players. I kissed my PC good bye just because of the privacy invasion, hacking, exploitation, cheats, driver problems/ceasing support. I was glad that dust was released on a console. Now all this will come back to Legion. People who can cope and afford time and money into PC gaming might enjoy the transition of dust. But then there are much more entertaining alternatives on the PC FPS and MMO market. I would even consider spekking into a new PC hardware, if i wasnt directing a corp and alliance of players being part of a community that have been shitted upon ruthlessly. That really sucks, I suppose those mainly in Dust that are able and willing to get a PC for Legion are gonna leave that alliance. But really CCP should've started off with a PC Version anyways, not sure if a PS4 version of Legion is gonna be an option for CCP. Rage at Fanfest??
Thokk Nightshade Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 148	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:17:00 - [147] - Quote Guilbert 515 wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: Guilbert 515 wrote: Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing! Did your corp know something about this? ya know, Rise of Legion and all? Nope, even though we were among the first entering PCQ and capturing the first districts, being given a dev blog on the dust side, CCP never tryed to convey any information to representatives of the larger alliances. Even by now we dont know who was "representing" the "dust community" and managed to screw up this game and its future perspective so bad that it came this far. Everyone is in shock. I know, it was a poor troll. Your corp is Rise of Legion, games name is Legion. Trying to make light of a serious situation. It doesn't come off well in print. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 858	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:42:00 - [148] - Quote A poor troll but funny still Rage at Fanfest??
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 294	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:46:00 - [149] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under. It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :) AHH I GOT - NEW DIRECTION! There has been a management shift. Canceled itdeas and a new direction. But who ever this is has not carried the players with him. We are not employees = you should not be clearing house! WE are your player base. You should be wining us over ASAP. This new direction was already poorly implemented.


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