if you do this while im watching the live stream, i WILL laugh at you.

you may want to refrase it in a manner in wich you will actually get a useful responce.

things like

"how satisfied are you guys with the progress you have made in the development of dust this far"

"what are you guys doing to bring the game closer to the vision presented at the games inception"

ya know things that sound thought out and somewhat intellegent, things that any good marketing team would jump on to answer.

I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under.

It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :)

that was a terrible idea tbh

capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset.

I agree the titan idea is terrible. I really don't think people have any clue just how ridiculously massive they are. It would take a team the size of CCP Shanghai decades to model the interior of just one titan, and there are 4 of them. It would take up terrabytes of disk space for the maps. You could have a 200 player battle and not find an enemy for days. The only realistic way to do this would be to make the map 0.01% of the size of the ship, and really, if you're going to do that, what the hell is the point?

See my sig for a much better solution for fighting in space with EVE players.

WUBFest 2014

You sound like the abusive spouse saying you'll never hurt us again, you promise to change. And here I am, believing you - making excuses for you. Lol. I've got my fingers crossed for CCP and DUST

Is this a new, thoughtful, more grounded CCP Shanghai/Dust 514 team? If this is what you guys are planning at Fanfest--discussing real, upcoming and executable changes for Dust--then you can count me in, and I'm sure the rest of us in as well!

Saberwing's post sounded more like a "defensive" move. Something like "we're not going to hype you all with wonderful things and concepts, but we'll show you the things we're actually working on".

I was very excited when this gam first came out. I have almost lost all hope. 2 weeks after 1.8 and the bugs havent been fixed. What makes you think that this game will get better anytime soon? 4 months into 2014 and just 1 update full of bugs that mainly introduced suits that should have been included the game came out of "beta" last year.

I hope you are right. I really do. The lower quality of modeling for the latest suits and the big QA fail in 1.8 really destroyed my confidence. Quality seems to be heading in the wrong direction. I'm holding out for FanFest for both EVE and DUST before I leave New Eden for good.

I'm only looking for one thing at Fanfest 2014:

Concrete evidence that changes are being made to the development process to establish the groundwork for faster, more logical changes to the game as a whole (rather than the see-saw motion of buffing/nerfing back and forth). Suffice to say, I'll be incredibly disappointed if I see presentations of a bunch of new content that will only exacerbate the problems we're already having with the content we do have by way of adding more work-load to tackle and potentially break.

As I said on Twitter, Fanfest 2014 is going to be a make-or-break for many of us.

People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released.

Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST.

Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game.

Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh?

I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope.

Why were they taken out? Too much spam? I don't get why CCP doesn't just realize the "sandboxy" idea behind the game and allow for some spam--just make it COST. I mean, they had to go with an artificial limit of 2 tanks on spambush because of tank spam, yet that could easily have been solvable by dramatically increasing the price for tanks.

And consider that if we did have installations we could call in (and pay for). Maybe the answer to a tank wouldn't just be another tank. Maybe it'd be a rail installation or even a small rail turret. There's options there for installations. If everyone remembers the promo trailer CCP played for Dust, everything had a cost. "Ambush OMS?" Nope. Just "Ambus" and we provide the OMS with our wallets. Maybe the connection with our wallet is what's truly missing.

So?

If people can jack our HAVs and other vehicles (I.e "personal assets"), then Eve players should be in danger of getting their ships jacked. It would only be fair.

This is why I look forward to potential boarding actions in Dust. I want to be able to board the ships of Eve pilots by means of boarding torpedo and fight my way to the bridge and assasinate the clone in it's pod.

Asset for asset, clone for clone.

Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator?

My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all.

I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk.

They are above you...... Miles and miles above you. :)

Oh, I would love the tears if someone lost a titan because someone managed to jack the pod from the inside without a shot ever being fired on the outside.

Just imagine:

Black Ops ship jumps into system with Titan and cloaks. Approaches the Titan which just so happens to be outside POS Shields. Black Ops decloaks, launches a single probe and cloaks. Only, that probe isn't what it appears to be on scanner and quickly disappears. It disappeared from scan because it's attached itself to the hull and is currently cutting a hole for Mercs to enter through. The Titan quickly (ha, quickly) tries to get back inside shields but it's too late. 6 merc's have managed to get on board. Nanohives and Droplinks, and a new version of the MCRU all appear and suddenly, there's no longer 6 mercs, but 36 mercs on board.

The titan pilot realises what is happening and calls go out on all comms for help. At this point, the titan's friendly mercs start popping on board (after suiciding from the fight they were involved in, leaving that district open for the taking) and a new fight emerges on board.

One can dream.

An internal titan battle would be a multi-staged fight, starting with the entry point. Winning the entrance battle opens two new titan 'districts' for battle. The attacking force then picks one of the new opened districts and attacks, making their way deeper into the vessel.

Losing pushes the attackers further back to their staging point, and winning allows them deeper access to the titan. A titan should have around x districts from entry to victory. While battles are raging inside the titan, the titan remains in space, cannot perform emergency warp. It can warp, unless the warp-drive district has been captured by the attacking mercenaries. The pilot can eject. The pilot can jump, unless the jump-drive district has been captured or is contested by attacking mercenaries. The pilot can activate modules, unless that individual module's district has been captured or is being contested by enemy mercenaries.

A titan should have a district created for each module fitted, a district for its drone bay, a district for each of its hangars.
The number of district battles is equal to the number of MCCs attacking the titan.

Our glorious MCC engages a titan, launching its phased cru at the titan. As long as the MCC is cycling its boarding party module, the battle can continue inside the titan. If the mcc is destroyed, the battle ends in a loss.

example:
The First MCC engages, activating its boarding parties. Bzzzzooomp, the titan sees that boarding parties are active in his ship, he tells his people to primary the mcc, then, boom, mcc engaged. However, the mcc is telling his friends to give him reps, so he is maintaining his link to the Titan. Ewar engages, breaking the link to the mcc.

The battle still continues inside the titan, however, the invaders inside cannot spawn in after their death. Suddenly, the ewar has been destroyed, and the mcc regains his lock on the titan and reactivates his boarding party module. The invaders can spawn in again, hurrah!

More and more MCCs engage, up to 36, creating 36 battles inside of the titan, moving closer to the core. Suddenly, no longer able to control the ship, his guns have gone offline, his hi-slots, mid slots, and low slots are all offline, his various bays are locked and he can no longer warp or jump, his capacitor is no longer charging, the pilot finds himself having been forcibly ejected from his ship.

Countdown to fanfest, for your convenience of course

I don't care anymore. This game is nothing like it was in 2009 and unless I see something big at fanfest I'm not coming back.
And lol OP I wouldnt know where to begin with all the mistakes made by ccp.
I definitely couldn't fit it in one question.

Planetside 2 on Steam now and PS4 E3 time I would guess. If Titanfall hadn't been grabbed by MS and had made to PS4 that probably would have pushed me over the purchasing edge for one.

You're right though, many new games in the pipe. When you look past the dust.

^

I also want to add that, dust has not evolved in ANY WAY towards a MMO during 2013, which is the games main differentiator compared to other FPS. Its only buffs and nerfs.

I doubt there will actually be a FanFest.

It's just another CCP promise.


Munch

Agreed. And that is despite them having to throw most of their plans out the window after Uprising hit. I'm definitely not impressed by what CCP has done in the past 12 months, but I can see that, in their less-than-ideal ways, they are trying.

it looks like they are trying.
on the other hand the feedback/game development forums scream not interested/not careing due to lack of organization.

Less nerf/buff, more new content please

They don't have a large team of developers, and the longer they spend catering to those people who whine and cry about "THIS IS OP THIS IS UP NERF THIS BUFF THAT WAH WAH WAH", the less time they have to add more vehicles, weapons, maps, suits, or, the big one, more EVE link. If the cycle of of buffing and nerfing continues, the game will take longer to balance. Nerfing/Buffing cycles are not balancing, balancing is what we want to have, but when you go to these here forums saying "Tanks are super OP, nerf them", and they get nerfed into near worthlessness, have you balanced the game? Or was your goal of making tanks soloable by a militia swarm accomplished because you can't be bothered to play as a team (This is purely an example and "you" does not refer to the person I'm quoting). Honestly, just keep things as they are, and if something needs to be balancing, let it be balanced, and let's start demanding for new things, not nerf/buffs.

"Considering the rate at which CCP develops Dust 514, is it safe to tack on a year to whatever dates you provide during Fanfast?"

Gets the point across while not being a douche about it.

I have to agree with the running feeling in here. Having been here for nearly a year now, and having read and watched videos of earlier Dust versions before I arrived, I wonder myself where Dust is heading.

There's two main things keeping me here yet. The first is all of the guys in my corp group, as they make playing matches fun. The second is all of the money I've sunk into this game. I've already put hundreds of dollars into Dust (probably way over 1m AUR by now) and if I don't start to see more active development ideas that don't take 3/4 a year to put out, I'm going to stop buying stuff.

I seriously hope CCP revitalizes Dust, because as far as I'm concerned, 1.7 (and the majority of Uprising) was a huge disaster and just adding a bunch of extra suits isn't going to fix that. We need more interfacing with EVE to make us actually relevant to the EVE universe. There should be an implementation of where our fights on the ground actually change things EVE-side. I've always been for something like from Star Wars Battlefront 2 where you could fight in space in ships or installations on foot, and also on the ground on planets. Something like that combined with the player market could be a huge boost for Dust.

As someone that is planning to buy another ps3 for this game, I would really hate to have CCP announce a ps4 version during fanfest :/

How much USD currncy would it take to buy CCP? Im serious. I have something that, can make me a billionaire and also stop the use of nuclear power in many countries.
Oops, made it look like you said that. its fixed now :)

couldnt agree more, your not alone. im sticking around the forums till fanfest and when im inevitably dissapointed im done for good. at least for a decade until the game is remotely playable

I want nothing more than for this game to thrive, but I've felt for far too long that this game is nothing more than a side project to CCP, and I as a paying customer have felt anywhere from disappointed to straight up insulted more times than I care to admit.

I've watched countless amazingly well thought out and calculated posts / discussions just disappear into the void with little more than a 'ooh that's interesting' from a blue, to the point where I have lost all desire to provide constructive feedback anymore. For the sake of the love I had for this game, I do not actively bash it or talk down to it, but I have stopped making content, I've stopped talking about it, I've stopped promoting and generally playing it.

Right now, it's just not worth the frustration. It feels completely divorced from EVE an entirely devoid of direction, and until I feel like CCP is taking the game seriously, I will not waste any more time and energy on it.

The ball is in CCP's court, now we can only wait.

Pretty disappointed that there isn't anything for our DUST mercs on the Twitch HD stream this year. any chance something will be thrown in before FF gets here

He means that CCP is giving special in-game items for EVE Capsuleers who subscribed to their HD stream but there are no Dust-related bonuses

thats becuz alot of us came to this game because we heard of the concept and the promise that CCP is "different" from other devs and they communicate and listen to their community and all that jibberish

in the 2 years i was actively playing DUST has not progressed its gone sideways and slightly backwards not forward
Skirmish 1.0 was alot better than the "improved" skirmish 2.0 and skirmish 1.0 would of made sense in PC , ccp goin backwards.

Gladiator arenas with EVE side betting on matches to be 1st expansion for DUST? who remembers this pipedream?

for the person who said gun customization not important id disagree, it adds depth and variety to the game
DUST guns were suppose to have mod slots as well that was talked about another pipedream

instead u have 3 diff guns to buy from the marketplace which are just sight, fire rate variations which a gun customization feature would of solved and done a much better job of

PvE? lol

ppl have every right to be as bitter as they are, **** im surprised so many still cling and tolerate their bs so much. The Shanghai team is just awful at making a FPS and being stuck on PS3 doesnt help

After reading the rest of this thread I see why CCP keeps this farce going.

How is it that people who have been here for more than a year are STILL giving CCP money? Do you people not understand that rewarding them for bad behaviour does not motivate them to good results?

I pretty much shut my wallet to SHanghai after Uprising dropped. It was just too much BS for all the hype they built up.

I just reactivated some of my Eve accounts, and I very quickly realized that playing Dust as it is now is just a huge pain in my ass.

I log on for PCs, and I AFK my fatty alt until they fix the skill bug.

More than likely I will biomass my toons after fanfest if the announcement is bad. Which I fully expect.

I might jump the gun though if the alleged hotfix to the skills bug doesn't show up.

Words cant express how deeply ashamed i feel to have supported CCP, the plans that our alliance made to put more effort into dust, into making the experience of everyone enjoyable, to tackle foes, plan for the future, all done and said for absulutely nothing!

I dont care how much faster its developed, if they had used their resources for dust rather than for another project they could have made dust even better, and with the development on the console generations even greater.

The pc is an entirely different target group of players.
My Corp and my alliance are made of mostly Console players.
I kissed my PC good bye just because of the privacy invasion, hacking, exploitation, cheats, driver problems/ceasing support.
I was glad that dust was released on a console.
Now all this will come back to Legion.
People who can cope and afford time and money into PC gaming might enjoy the transition of dust.
But then there are much more entertaining alternatives on the PC FPS and MMO market.
I would even consider spekking into a new PC hardware, if i wasnt directing a corp and alliance of players being part of a community that have been shitted upon ruthlessly.