People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released.

Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST.

Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game.

Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh?

I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope.

I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under.

It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :)

I really look forward to hearing about what's in the pipe, what's in development, and what's possible before fanfest '15. I hope you'll be clear about what's not possible in that time frame too so we can stop speculating on it!

People forgetting stuff like Paintbucket, Player market, Gun Customization, and the Vita app? lol these things CCP made it sound like they're right there and ready to be released.

Again I say Fanfest is just another platform that CCP can sell people pipedreams on about DUST.

Something as mundane in EVERY shooter... gun customization, adding different sights... 2 years DUST has none of that. Just SMH at the shortcomings of this game.

Call me a hater, call me a bitter vet, IDGAF, I played this game for a long time, invested time and money into it, and CCP delivered next to nothing. Took 2 years to get all the heavy suits... like is that a joke? Not a single new heavy weapon, maybe another 2 years huh?

I'll be watching Fanfest, and eagerly await to see of someone has the balls to ask the real questions. I doubt it though, but I can hope.

remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace?

neither do I

but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh!

I'd echo Ghosts Chance's thoughts here and urge you to get your thoughts across in a constructive manner. What I will say is that we do not wish to overextend and overpromise. We look forward to discussing things that are real possibilities for DUST, and I feel incredibly optimistic with the new direction and guidance the development team has been working under.

It may seem like the same old rhetoric, but I am being genuine and I really hope in time you'll understand where I'm coming from. :)

I'm curious why that other guy would say he's leaving EVE unless something good happens at FanFest. EVE seems just fine to me right now.

remember when we had deployable installations purchasable from marquetplace?

neither do I

but two years later the installations reminder is still there after preesing right on the d pad.......meh!

As the other guy... EVE is solid and beautiful but after 7 years I'm done. I like being a solo and very small group guy in a big, busy universe. The PVE aspects are very shallow and boring after you've been around for a while. Industry is over saturated. Mining is mind numbing. Exploration is still horribly boring and repetitive. Planetary interaction is only interesting for a week at best. I had hopes with Incarna but the vocal players revolted at it's very thought. All my friends have already moved on.

I had hopes for DUST. It was a chance to explore different aspect of New Eden. I was being patient while CCP found its way but quality is declining and communication is still bad. The concept for DUST has been scaled down to a lobby shooter that still hasn't delivered very much.

I love the New Eden IP but CCP has a history of failing to deliver. The reason EVE hasn't had a failed release lately is that they have scaled back their plans so far that they are polished but boring.

What am I waiting for at FanFest? EVE may be presenting their big stargate building project. I doubt I'll be playing it much though but I'll still watch all the presentations. I'll be surprised if DUST actually presents anything decent and if they do I have low confidence that they can implement it properly. I hope they show PVE and multistage battles. They need long running battles that interact more with EVE but we'll not be seeing that on PS3. Basically, I'm shopping around for a replacement world but Star Citizen is probably 2 years away and nothing else seems interesting.

where are you getting this P2W bs?

titans are only a kilometer long you'd want a lav too cross one... or a functional tram system. but it wouldn't be too massive.

Just math.

1.7 was released with two day one OP weapons, combat and rail rifles both dramatically changed the balance of the battlefield in Dust. They were OP, designed as OP and caused many to muster up the resources to use them as early as possible. The only methods to do that in Dust are SP and a combination of ISK/AUR/LP. AUR and LP allow one to access gear that you have neither the time nor the skills for.

1.8 nerfed them both (and many other items as well) while introducing two day one OP items. The strongest scout suits Dust has ever seen along with the cloak. Guess what it takes to gain early access to them? Hint, see the above paragraph. At least this time the SP was available for some, assuming they gave up on their original suits as they would be rendered useless or at least less effective once the invisi-scout took to the battlefield.

I have a record of ISK paid out from last year. The results are clear to one that has been playing since the very first of closed beta. The ISK rewards are dwindling, steadily, consistently, persistently and have been since ~1.6. It used to be that one could find a fit that let you earn some ISK by grinding with a fit that was cheap enough, let you kill enough (or earn WP your way) while not having you die a dozen or more times per match. You still can, but you had better finish in the top four.

Those combinations are now reduced. The day one OP gear requires a response. The easiest will be AUR. Gaining LP requires spending AUR or ISK to buy gear that will get destroyed seeking LP. Although it does balance the need for AUR by those without cash the reality of losing ISK means it is more expensive in relationship to time. However, many new items are not in the loyalty store.

Each new drop means that those with SP/AUR to burn can use the OP gear on the first day. They will maximize their return. And further CCP/Shanghai's commitment to their path. While Dust seems like F2P, and it was, now the reality of day one OP means that is being left behind. Whether that is on purpose or just a side effect of the standard operating procedures at CCP only time will tell.



@HVH, Sorry for the delay in my response, I had not checked in for a bit. KR

Back in the day we had small blaster turrets, which were pretty fun, then Skirmis 2.0 came and took it all away - that's why I fear everything with 2.0 in it now...

Why were they taken out? Too much spam? I don't get why CCP doesn't just realize the "sandboxy" idea behind the game and allow for some spam--just make it COST. I mean, they had to go with an artificial limit of 2 tanks on spambush because of tank spam, yet that could easily have been solvable by dramatically increasing the price for tanks.

And consider that if we did have installations we could call in (and pay for). Maybe the answer to a tank wouldn't just be another tank. Maybe it'd be a rail installation or even a small rail turret. There's options there for installations. If everyone remembers the promo trailer CCP played for Dust, everything had a cost. "Ambush OMS?" Nope. Just "Ambus" and we provide the OMS with our wallets. Maybe the connection with our wallet is what's truly missing.

Ahem, we're talking Titans here, not Battleships.

that was a terrible idea tbh

capture the station i can get behind but capture the titan. well the eve player in me is frightened by it. a titan is a personal asset, a station is a corp/alliance asset.

So?

If people can jack our HAVs and other vehicles (I.e "personal assets"), then Eve players should be in danger of getting their ships jacked. It would only be fair.

This is why I look forward to potential boarding actions in Dust. I want to be able to board the ships of Eve pilots by means of boarding torpedo and fight my way to the bridge and assasinate the clone in it's pod.

Asset for asset, clone for clone.

Exactly, when they bring out a ship for battle they risk losing it. Just like when we take out any drop suit for battle, expensive or not it's a risk.

Don't forget that some of our dropsuit fittings and vehicles are more expensive than some of the ships used in Eve.

There is no viable argument against us being able to board Eve ships and kill the clone piloting them. It doesn't really matter if a ship is lost to enemy fire or dust mercs boarding it. A ship lost is a ship lost regardless.

I'm pretty sure that a Velator costs more than our most expensive dropsuits. 500K is absolutely nothing in EVE. That's like 2 blocks of un-refined high sec ice, which can be mined in about 2 minutes.

Now, as for boarding Titan's and killing the capsuleer from the inside I say YES PLEASE!

Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator?

My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all.

I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk.

Sure, but what's to stop ccp from releasing something in Dust that would cost as much as a Velator?

My point here is: anytime you take something out to play, be it a ship in EVE or a dropsuit in DUST you admit the risk of losing it. This is New Eden after all.

I argue this because you can bet that quite a few Eve-pilots would protest loudly against any ideas of boarding their precious ships and assassinating their clones. They suffer from some kind of delusion that they are "better" than Dust mercs and feel that their carebear ways should place them above risk.

Completely agree, especially on the part where they think they shouldn't be at risk with us dusties around. Just because I'm on a console and this is a fps they think that they are above us.

They are above you...... Miles and miles above you. :)

Oh, I would love the tears if someone lost a titan because someone managed to jack the pod from the inside without a shot ever being fired on the outside.

Just imagine:

Black Ops ship jumps into system with Titan and cloaks. Approaches the Titan which just so happens to be outside POS Shields. Black Ops decloaks, launches a single probe and cloaks. Only, that probe isn't what it appears to be on scanner and quickly disappears. It disappeared from scan because it's attached itself to the hull and is currently cutting a hole for Mercs to enter through. The Titan quickly (ha, quickly) tries to get back inside shields but it's too late. 6 merc's have managed to get on board. Nanohives and Droplinks, and a new version of the MCRU all appear and suddenly, there's no longer 6 mercs, but 36 mercs on board.

The titan pilot realises what is happening and calls go out on all comms for help. At this point, the titan's friendly mercs start popping on board (after suiciding from the fight they were involved in, leaving that district open for the taking) and a new fight emerges on board.

One can dream.