Wow already nerfing things????!!!! This is why I am always worried about spending my SP. You bring new suits and weapons only to trick players into buying boosters and spending their SP only to make them useless? I am tired of this roller coaster. How many time are you going to buff and nerf the heavy and the hmg. I guss i will not be spending my SP.

With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future.

Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements.
Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).

This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created.

This has me quite interested, specifically the "further internal playtesting" bit. I doubt this was discovered an hour after the patch went live. How much of a gap is there between "we see a problem" and rectifying that problem? I just think it is interesting, I am not judging at all (seriously, no judgement), that there was a 'known problem' that got pushed through into the patch.

"Stupid question", but what does EHP mean?

"Stupid question", but what does EHP mean?

Effective hp
It is more relevent in eve where you have passive and active hardners to change your resistance to damage types, you increase your ehp by either giving yourself more hp or making that hp harder to drain away.

Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).

With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future.

Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements.
Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).

This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created.

Does this apply to sentinel, commando or both? Worried that you are going to make the commando a paper tiger again. I could see the sentinel EHP being to high with the resistance bonuses though.

20%?

Are you insane?

I don't care how OP something is, you don't just throw a big ass nerf like that at something and expect there to be no problems afterwards. Why the hell are you guys incapable of doing anything in moderation?

Sentinel and Basic Heavy, not Commando.

I really don't see this being all that bad. The playtesting was probably discovering that like, 3 remotes still doesn't kill a heavy or something...

Edit: Also, all the Assault suit being UP crying is going to die down a lot.

Sentinel and Basic Heavy, not Commando.

I've got to admit man, I'm worried for the Min and Cal Sentinels.

I've been killing them pretty effectively already in the Amarr Sentinel. Even with the basic and militia gear. My squad mates were destroying Cal sentinels with shotguns.
Hell, I even beat a Min sentinel with a militia scrambler pistol.

Are you sure it's wise to make the squishy ones even weaker?

Sentinel and Basic Heavy, not Commando.

Sentinel and Basic Heavy, not Commando.

Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).

12 minutes into 1.8 - Heavies get nerfed
4 months after 1.7 - Tanks still god mode

With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future.

Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements.
Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).

This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created.

**** you CCP. I was actually excited for this patch. Now? I'm not even going to bother downloading it.



Exactly right. Heavies must always be ****. Nevermind the 1,000hp cloaked scouts you've now created CCP, the heavies just have too much hp with their LAV-sized hitbox and their absurdly low movement speed. The 1,000hp brick tanked invisible scouts are fine, the 1,200hp brick tanked logis are no problem, but those 1,050-1,200hp sentinels just have too damn much hp and need nerfed.

**** you CCP. I was actually excited for this patch. Now? I'm not even going to bother downloading it.



Exactly right. Heavies must always be ****. Nevermind the 1,000hp cloaked scouts you've now created CCP, the heavies just have too much hp with their LAV-sized hitbox and their absurdly low movement speed. The 1,000hp brick tanked invisible scouts are fine, the 1,200hp brick tanked logis are no problem, but those 1,050-1,200hp sentinels just have too damn much hp and need nerfed.

Exaggerate much? There are no 1000HP scouts. Yeah you can get 1200 HP on a logi, and movie at about a commando's speed without the bonuses to reload and damage. 1000-1200 EHP heavies are like base heavy stats without having your shield and armor skills maxed and not a single armor plate or shield extender on it. The problem is more like 1600-2000 EHP heavies with 25% resistance to explosions and 15% resistance to another damage type and 10% to another damage type. Sentinels with those stats are OP, people who can do math knew it and play testing has apparently confirmed what we knew.

I and many others warned FotM people looking to skill into OP heavies that they would be nerfed. I didn't think it would be this quick but I knew it would happen.

There are 1,000hp scouts, they are a thing that exist, and are not uncommon. 1,200hp is with both dropsuit armor and shields maxed, please learn to do math - in no known system of math does 525+390, 600+360, or 435+390 = 1,200. Pretty sure none of them even go over 1,000, but I was never great at math so I could be wrong.

If the problem is not the base heavy hp, but rather the heavies with stacked plates (because the cal sentinel has a max of 1,500hp at proto with 4 extenders, which is a gimped setup anyway, and we all know extenders are not the problem), why is the heavy base hp being nerfed? It would seem to make sense that, if the brick tanked sentinels with 1,800hp (the max a sentinel can get is 1,810hp) were the problem, then maybe it's the armor plates that are the problem, because that's also why we have 1,000hp scouts and 1,200hp logis. But no, instead of using things like logic, or reasoning, or common ******* sense, let's nerf heavy HP by 20% across the board.

You think as poorly as CCP devs. Ever thought of applying for a job as a developer?