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CCP Logibro wrote:

With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future.

~~Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it might be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).~~ Delayed until we have more data
Vehicle hardeners have been reduced in effectiveness (Armour 40% -> 25%, Shield 60% -> 40%)
Large and small railgun range reduced
Reduced max vehicles deployed per team in Ambush and Ambush OMS to two.

This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created.

UPDATE: FIRST HOTFIX - MARCH 27TH

* Changed Amarr CommandoGÇÖs armor to 480.
* Changed Heavy frame dropsuitsGÇÖ shield recharge.
* Changed Commando mk.0GÇÖs high slot count to 2.
* Changed Minmatar scoutGÇÖs melee damage to 120.
* Removed erroneous 1HP/s innate healing on Minmatar Assault.
* Corrected skill cost multiplier of Amarr Light suit - from x4 to x8. Please note, the player SP will be deducted after this fix if the player updated the skill previously.
* Reduced Large Railgun turret range from 600m to 300m, lowered max. vehicles in Ambush and Ambush OMS to 2 per team.
* Changed vehicle Armor Hardener bonus from 40% to 25%.
* Corrected skill requirement of 'Neo' Scout ck.0 and Scout ck.0.
* Added skill requirement of AM/CA light dropsuits and increased Max PG/CPU of AM and CA suits at ADV and PRO tiers.
* Changed the STD GA Commando low slots count to 2.
* Changed ISK Heavy dropsuitsGÇÖ prices.
* Fixed a bug which makes certain fittings not run out of stock in battle upon death.

Additionally, the following changes were planned to go out during downtime on the 27th. However, during testing we found an issue with the changes that prevented them from working successfully. Rather than delay the other fixes we decided to follow up and fix these with a further update tomorrow (the 28th).

* Vehicle Shield Hardener bonus reduced from 60% to 40%.
* Small Railgun range has been reduced from 300m to 200m.

I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

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BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 6	Posted - 2014.03.30 17:42:00 - [271] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: 1) Pics or it didn't happen 2) A clean shot from a PLC should knock anything around, you deserve it if you can pull it off. 3) "Good" pilots do not lose 2 dropships to swarms in a single match unless they are really drunk or something. First off, #1 let me get right on that with a sh**y phone pic or getting a video capture card. 2nd, true, and I've gotten surprisingly good with plasma cannons so see you soon i guess, and #3 he was pissed, a proto user of Nyan San and advanced level swarm launchers. 1.8 seems to have "accidentally" boosted them.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 488	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:15:00 - [272] - Quote Everyone started crying when the heavy reduction health was announced. But no one actually presented any data. CCP Saberwing, can you dig up the graphs and charts that initially spurred the decision to reduce heavies health by 20%? Thank you. o7 I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3491	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:57:00 - [273] - Quote "reduced large railgun range from 600m to 300m" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's such an abusive change. The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3491	Posted - 2014.03.30 21:59:00 - [274] - Quote I cqc with my rail so whatever... just means no more red line rails and dropship pignata I guess... The community is the worst thing that ever happened to this game Caldari Scout // specialized tank destroyer
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 117	Posted - 2014.03.31 19:45:00 - [275] - Quote Any news on forge guns? They are still misfiring like 1 out of 3 to even 1 out of 2 shots. They just show the fire animation but no rail blast and no loss of ammo. Hard to kill them tanks when the forge gun keeps mysteriously jamming.
Sum1ne Else WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1074	Posted - 2014.03.31 23:34:00 - [276] - Quote Assault Forge Mis-firing? Firing blanks Level 1 Forum Warrior! Its a leopleuradon Charlie a magical leoplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2550	Posted - 2014.04.01 13:39:00 - [277] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: 1) Pics or it didn't happen 2) A clean shot from a PLC should knock anything around, you deserve it if you can pull it off. 3) "Good" pilots do not lose 2 dropships to swarms in a single match unless they are really drunk or something. First off, #1 let me get right on that with a shy phone pic or getting a video capture card. 2nd, true, and I've gotten surprisingly good with plasma cannons so see you soon i guess, and #3 he was pissed, a proto user of Nyan San and advanced level swarm launchers. 1.8 seems to have "accidentally" boosted them. I don't fly dropships (at least not well) unless I need to get on top of something to drop some uplinks. Killing me is not much of an accomplishment, I'm afraid. I'm talking on the other end, even in 1.6 I could take down tanks no worries with my proto swarms, but good DS pilots could always get away. More to the point, being in Nyain San and using proto does not automatically make you "good". "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1976	Posted - 2014.04.01 17:35:00 - [278] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future. ~~Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it might be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).~~ Delayed until we have more data Vehicle hardeners have been reduced in effectiveness (Armour 40% -> 25%, Shield 60% -> 40%) Large and small railgun range reduced Reduced max vehicles deployed per team in Ambush and Ambush OMS to two. This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created. UPDATE: FIRST HOTFIX - MARCH 27TH * Changed Amarr CommandoGÇÖs armor to 480. * Changed Heavy frame dropsuitsGÇÖ shield recharge. * Changed Commando mk.0GÇÖs high slot count to 2. * Changed Minmatar scoutGÇÖs melee damage to 120. * Removed erroneous 1HP/s innate healing on Minmatar Assault. * Corrected skill cost multiplier of Amarr Light suit - from x4 to x8. Please note, the player SP will be deducted after this fix if the player updated the skill previously. * Reduced Large Railgun turret range from 600m to 300m, lowered max. vehicles in Ambush and Ambush OMS to 2 per team. * Changed vehicle Armor Hardener bonus from 40% to 25%. * Corrected skill requirement of 'Neo' Scout ck.0 and Scout ck.0. * Added skill requirement of AM/CA light dropsuits and increased Max PG/CPU of AM and CA suits at ADV and PRO tiers. * Changed the STD GA Commando low slots count to 2. * Changed ISK Heavy dropsuitsGÇÖ prices. * Fixed a bug which makes certain fittings not run out of stock in battle upon death. Additionally, the following changes were planned to go out during downtime on the 27th. However, during testing we found an issue with the changes that prevented them from working successfully. Rather than delay the other fixes we decided to follow up and fix these with a further update tomorrow (the 28th). * Vehicle Shield Hardener bonus reduced from 60% to 40%. * Small Railgun range has been reduced from 300m to 200m. Where's a list of the other hotfix changes? From patch day through to yesterday, I had to synchronize every time I logged on. Could you update this first post with all the changes on their associated day? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 829	Posted - 2014.04.01 18:50:00 - [279] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Why do snipers outrange small railguns now? O.o Wouldn't small Railguns be more fun if they worked like longer range Forge Guns? Makes LAVs into Forge guns on Wheels, less splash. You need to at least bring sniper range down to 200m , there is no reason a handheld railgun should have more range than a Small Turret Railgun. There should be a clear progression. Lowest Range Ion pistol Rail Rifle Sniper Rail Rilfe Small Rail Turret Forge Gun Tank Railgun Turret Longest Range Now go back to the drawing board keeping this weapon progression tree in mind. No. Leave us snipers alone. It's hard enough hitting running targets at 475m. Even harder if they are cloaked. Current sniper rifles have ranges exceeding 1,000 meters with good accuracy at that distance. In a couple of thousand years this won't likely decrease. Munch P.S. Hopefully your comments are related to April Fool's Day. Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 493	Posted - 2014.04.01 23:15:00 - [280] - Quote I noticed that the bug where cloaked mercs can fire a couple of rounds off before actually de-cloaking isn't on the hot fix list. Why? I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )

Clickets Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2014.04.02 02:58:00 - [281] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Why do snipers outrange small railguns now? O.o Wouldn't small Railguns be more fun if they worked like longer range Forge Guns? Makes LAVs into Forge guns on Wheels, less splash. You need to at least bring sniper range down to 200m , there is no reason a handheld railgun should have more range than a Small Turret Railgun. There should be a clear progression. Lowest Range Ion pistol Rail Rifle Sniper Rail Rilfe Small Rail Turret Forge Gun Tank Railgun Turret Longest Range Now go back to the drawing board keeping this weapon progression tree in mind. I will do my best to not be rude or troll a post like this but, quite frankly this is absurd, nothing should have longer effective range then a sniper rifle because it is by FAR the most difficult to use of any on this list and the most UP of these as well (not everyone has Thales) In short why nerf something already grossly underutilized or unrealized within the scope of the game, just b/c somone was shot with a militia SR at 450m and QQs--don't hate just say nice shot man!
SLADE 8U ROGUE RELICS 0	Posted - 2014.04.03 16:09:00 - [282] - Quote WTF? I HAVE BEEN OUT OF TOWN FOR WORK AND I STILL DON'T SEE ANYTHING WHERE CCP HAS FIXED THE FORGE GUNS SINCE 1.8? HOWEVER, I SEE SUITS FIXED AND PEOPLES SP SCREWED BUT A GUN THAT DOESN'T FIRE WHICH CAUSES YOU TO DIE AND LOOSE YOUR SUITS (ISK)(K/D+) IS STILL NOT FIXED. DID I MISS A THREAD OR IS IT TRUE THAT THE FORGE GUNS STILL SHOOT BLANKS IN A FPS GAME WHERE NON-SKILLED PLAYERS CAN JUMP IN A TANK AND GO POSSITIVE. IS THERE A COLDFIX THREAD? "EVERYBODY HAS A PLAN UNTIL THEY GET PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH"
Scar Scrilla Ametat Security Amarr Empire 213	Posted - 2014.04.04 08:44:00 - [283] - Quote True, fix the FG already. It's getting annoying, sometimes it works sometimes not. And I don't care about any exploits with the AFG profiting from this glitch. For christ's sake, finally fix this CCP, this is ridiculous "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" "Go and hack the letter(s)" - Join our public channel: UN1TE
The Attorney General 2519	Posted - 2014.04.04 17:38:00 - [284] - Quote I'd really like an update on what is going on witg the hotfix for the skills. It seems to be at the root of so many issues. Either way it seems central to the whole problem, and should be addressed by CCP post haste. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 747	Posted - 2014.04.04 18:44:00 - [285] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: I'd really like an update on what is going on witg the hotfix for the skills. It seems to be at the root of so many issues. Either way it seems central to the whole problem, and should be addressed by CCP post haste. Wouldn't we all. Nice way of asking for it. Perhaps a dev will update us? ...
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1148	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:07:00 - [286] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Sorry, Most of the people that upload videos to youtube about ADS aren't that great at flying them. Just cause they are popular doesn't mean they are correct. The rail nerf was unneeded, collecting points from Redline needs to be addressed. It was proposed and instantly shot down by QQ followed by the Dev having to leave CCP. Who? Wang is still around and tweeting away. And so it goes.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1152	Posted - 2014.04.05 12:20:00 - [287] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: --- snip --- I say this because I am a full time pilot and still do not make a reasonable amount of profit. I started filling in 1.7 with 50 mil isk. I now have 22 mil. I suspect you are going to be disappointed. ADS were actually going to be removed in 1.7 but much QQ got them back. Although they remained at 1.6 prices while the rest of the vehicles got lowered prices. Making a profit flying is very difficult and CCP/Shanghai is dedicated to reducing ISK payout which puts you at a disadvantage. My data shows a persistent drop regardless of what you did in battle for any position below third place. First through third as well but the rest have drop offs that are really drastic. I suspect that their goal is to make being a Merc unprofitable - period. This would require AUR to buy either boosters or gear. My only advice, you can feel free to ignore it of course, is to find a free/cheap suit that you can farm with. Not AFK farm as I really don't advocate that, but simply find solutions for being in a match and not embracing death. Or if you don't do it often or in a suit that costs over 10k ISK. Hack the closest objective and snipe those that try to rehack it. Or RE them. Cheaply. Welcome to Dust And so it goes.
Chuck Nurris DCLXVI Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 15	Posted - 2014.04.06 10:13:00 - [288] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: * Reduced Large Railgun turret range from 600m to 300m, lowered max. vehicles in Ambush and Ambush OMS to 2 per team. * Small Railgun range has been reduced from 300m to 200m. When are the Drop Ship altitude range and gun range being nerfed likewise? Right now you just removed just about the ONLY counter we had against DS, it was bad enough that you nerfed the max upward angle of rails earlier, so that a tank or turret have 0% chance of countering an attacking DS, now only ground troopers can reach them to assist their tank, and then only if they have geared into proto items, and are useless for anything but anti DS while doing so, and those people can't keep up with the only (remote) chance a tank has to survive a DS; that is; to run.
General John Ripper 19434	Posted - 2014.04.07 22:29:00 - [289] - Quote mmmm tacos My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 cpm petition Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1187	Posted - 2014.04.08 00:18:00 - [290] - Quote lAssassinl Zer0 wrote: The Heavies Ehp is not [a problem], the problem is that they're able to use Light weapons, get off the Light weapons for heavies (exept commandos) and you have balanced Heavies. No, the problem is not that they're able to use Light Weapons.. the problem is that they find Light weapons better than heavy weapons. SO, MAKE BETTER HEAVY WEAPONS!!! That, is the problem there. It is ludicrous that there is no equivalent of "Heavy Assault/Rail/Combat rifle". Something with increased damage, and increased range, that has autofire. The "increased range" of an assault HMG is laughable. Heavies should have an anti-infantry weapon that is good to at least 50m. (And no, a forge gun is not a proper anti-infantry weapon.) The only reason they use light weapons is to fill that gap.

Kazeno Rannaa BIG BAD W0LVES 359	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:08:00 - [291] - Quote Ok. With all of these hot fixes going on, when is one of the PRIMARY ISSUES going to be addressed? The fact that soil bonuses can take anywhere from 5 or 10 seconds to almost an entire match to have the skewed and broken coding engage? This game has become broken, in ways that it makes the E3 build, original Uprising, or even Chromosome something I think fondly of and dream for. Without a focus on this particular fix, the dwindling player bas that seems to continue to abuse themselves with this game, of which I have been a participant for almost 2 year, will bleed out and finally kill this game. I seriously doubt that the QA team is anywhere near larger enough to do the job that they have been assigned, they seem to lack the necessary ability to really utilize the engine they have chosen to itGÇÖs fullest capabilities. Also there seems to be TOO heavy a focus on the art, and not enough with the playability? How long have we had MAJOR issues with LAG in PC, or the Gallente research facility? Let alone the orbital cannon (of which when the HELL are we going to be able to shot back from the service?) When is the player market coming? So many things promised and very few delivered. The frustration I hear from my corp-mates during matches is almost unbearable. The fact that CCP continues to kiss the arse of every QQGÇÖing player is beyond me, when all of these GÇ£suggestionsGÇ¥ are really only strategic maneuverings that ensure the advantage to one player group over another. That, in the realization of a definition, is not balancing. It is the exact opposite. If there is no balance, then how can anyone ever want to play a game that will have them get their arses handed to then out of the gate? So much hope for the concept only to realize that I may have been worshipping a false idol and the charlatans/snake oil sales people that attempted to pawn it off on us as GÇ£AAA Shooter.GÇ¥ This is not to say that it didnGÇÖt have potential. It did. Maybe it will do better on the PS4? Maybe it should just take a dirt nap for a while until they can really figure out what it is they are attempting to do? Maybe there should be DUST on SISI so as to open it up to some real play testing before updates come out? Just waiting for BungieGÇÖs Destiny beta, maybe in July, and then I am done. The PS3 will be sold. This sad stage of my life extinguished and forgotten. "Mind is the Only reality, of which all other natures are better or worse reflections.GÇ¥ RWE
Kazeno Rannaa BIG BAD W0LVES 359	Posted - 2014.04.08 16:09:00 - [292] - Quote Ok. With all of these hot fixes going on, when is one of the PRIMARY ISSUES going to be addressed? The fact that soil bonuses can take anywhere from 5 or 10 seconds to almost an entire match to have the skewed and broken coding engage? This game has become broken, in ways that it makes the E3 build, original Uprising, or even Chromosome something I think fondly of and dream for. Without a focus on this particular fix, the dwindling player bas that seems to continue to abuse themselves with this game, of which I have been a participant for almost 2 year, will bleed out and finally kill this game. I seriously doubt that the QA team is anywhere near larger enough to do the job that they have been assigned, they seem to lack the necessary ability to really utilize the engine they have chosen to itGÇÖs fullest capabilities. Also there seems to be TOO heavy a focus on the art, and not enough with the playability? How long have we had MAJOR issues with LAG in PC, or the Gallente research facility? Let alone the orbital cannon (of which when the HELL are we going to be able to shot back from the service?) When is the player market coming? So many things promised and very few delivered. The frustration I hear from my corp-mates during matches is almost unbearable. The fact that CCP continues to kiss the arse of every QQGÇÖing player is beyond me, when all of these GÇ£suggestionsGÇ¥ are really only strategic maneuverings that ensure the advantage to one player group over another. That, in the realization of a definition, is not balancing. It is the exact opposite. If there is no balance, then how can anyone ever want to play a game that will have them get their arses handed to then out of the gate? So much hope for the concept only to realize that I may have been worshipping a false idol and the charlatans/snake oil sales people that attempted to pawn it off on us as GÇ£AAA Shooter.GÇ¥ This is not to say that it didnGÇÖt have potential. It did. Maybe it will do better on the PS4? Maybe it should just take a dirt nap for a while until they can really figure out what it is they are attempting to do? Maybe there should be DUST on SISI so as to open it up to some real play testing before updates come out? Just waiting for BungieGÇÖs Destiny beta, maybe in July, and then I am done. The PS3 will be sold. This sad stage of my life extinguished and forgotten. "Mind is the Only reality, of which all other natures are better or worse reflections.GÇ¥ RWE
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 423	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:52:00 - [293] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: lAssassinl Zer0 wrote: The Heavies Ehp is not [a problem], the problem is that they're able to use Light weapons, get off the Light weapons for heavies (exept commandos) and you have balanced Heavies. No, the problem is not that they're able to use Light Weapons.. the problem is that they find Light weapons better than heavy weapons. SO, MAKE BETTER HEAVY WEAPONS!!! That, is the problem there. It is ludicrous that there is no equivalent of "Heavy Assault/Rail/Combat rifle". Something with increased damage, and increased range, that has autofire. The "increased range" of an assault HMG is laughable. Heavies should have an anti-infantry weapon that is good to at least 50m. (And no, a forge gun is not a proper anti-infantry weapon.) The only reason they use light weapons is to fill that gap. spot on
Alpha 443-6732 General Tso's Alliance 423	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:54:00 - [294] - Quote sooo... it's been a while. Didn't you say we were getting another hotfix last monday? Please respond, Alpha
Powerh8er Arrogance. 409	Posted - 2014.04.10 23:15:00 - [295] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: Why do snipers outrange small railguns now? O.o Wouldn't small Railguns be more fun if they worked like longer range Forge Guns? Makes LAVs into Forge guns on Wheels, less splash. You need to at least bring sniper range down to 200m , there is no reason a handheld railgun should have more range than a Small Turret Railgun. There should be a clear progression. Lowest Range Ion pistol Rail Rifle Sniper Rail Rilfe Small Rail Turret Forge Gun Tank Railgun Turret Longest Range Now go back to the drawing board keeping this weapon progression tree in mind. No. Leave us snipers alone. It's hard enough hitting running targets at 475m. Even harder if they are cloaked. Current sniper rifles have ranges exceeding 1,000 meters with good accuracy at that distance. In a couple of thousand years this won't likely decrease. Munch P.S. Hopefully your comments are related to April Fool's Day. Yeah well the first record shot was with HMG modified with a scope (2000 meters or something in Vietnam), but in dust the HMGs optimal range is 10 meters.... My problem with redline snipers are that nothing can counter them except other snipers. Te Valhall!
Hobo on Fire Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 253	Posted - 2014.04.11 15:39:00 - [296] - Quote Powerh8er wrote: Yeah well the first record shot was with HMG modified with a scope (2000 meters or something in Vietnam), but in dust the HMGs optimal range is 10 meters.... My problem with redline snipers are that nothing can counter them except other snipers. Psst... Dust's HMGs aren't HMG's by real world definition. In Non-CCP world, Light/Medium/Heavy machine guns are classified more on the size of the bullet they fire than the size of the gun itself. Since Dust's HMGs fire such low damage, short range bullets, you could make the argument that it's actually a Light machine gun. It's medium at most. The HMG in your example was a .50 caliber, which is closer to Dust's small railgun turret than anything.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1186	Posted - 2014.04.12 01:20:00 - [297] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I'll fix the game. Very funny. One person cannot solve systemic failures. You would be just one more grunt in the chain. And so it goes.
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 43	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:55:00 - [298] - Quote I have been trying out the cloak and have found the following issues: - when you quick swap from cloak to weapon it does not always work which gets you killed for the wheel selection is to slow and I found it is sometime delayed and in a fight you get the wrong selection - you can not uncloak or cloak when running, problem or design? PROBLEM FOR CCP TO FIX
Rugudorull Apophicyria Be Just or Be Dead 60	Posted - 2014.04.13 20:23:00 - [299] - Quote So how about fixing that passive skill bug not registering on spawn? Any word on the progress on this?
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 28	Posted - 2014.04.14 19:12:00 - [300] - Quote dreth longbow wrote: I have been trying out the cloak and have found the following issues: - when you quick swap from cloak to weapon it does not always work which gets you killed for the wheel selection is to slow and I found it is sometime delayed and in a fight you get the wrong selection - you can not uncloak or cloak when running, problem or design? PROBLEM FOR CCP TO FIX A large problem I've had recently. Even if I am not cloaked and I switch at a Supply Depot to another suit, i lose all hearing as if I was cloaked. Of course I'm not (the bullets can still see me), but I lose my sound and it drives me nuts. I've tried swapping to a dozen other suits but it doesn't fix, I've literally tried waiting it out as a sniper for the rest of the match (no luck). The only thing that actually fixes my sound is to either A) die or B) switch back to a scout with cloak, cloak, decloak and then die. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User



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