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Justicar Karnellia wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

CCP Logibro wrote:

With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future.

Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements.
Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed).

This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created.

20%?

Are you insane?

I don't care how OP something is, you don't just throw a big ass nerf like that at something and expect there to be no problems afterwards. Why the hell are you guys incapable of doing anything in moderation?

This is so true. Every time something needs to be "balanced" the pendulum swings to the other extreme, sailing by that "sweet spot" that would have been balanced and into the "nerfuseless" territory. It really is exasperating. They could just adjust it 5%, then say "almost", then another 5% a week later, until they hit what they feel is balanced.

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Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 78	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:28:00 - [121] - Quote I just don't understand why I have to be bright white for everyone to see and shoot me. There's a message in my Cheerios!
IRON PATRIOT 1 Proficiency Five 123	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:34:00 - [122] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future. Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements. Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed). This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created. I want my sp back then I didn't spec into the suit knowing you were going to reduce ehp.
Senator Snipe Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 136	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:49:00 - [123] - Quote Justicar Karnellia wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future. Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements. Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed). This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created. 20%? Are you insane? I don't care how OP something is, you don't just throw a big ass nerf like that at something and expect there to be no problems afterwards. Why the hell are you guys incapable of doing anything in moderation? This is so true. Every time something needs to be "balanced" the pendulum swings to the other extreme, sailing by that "sweet spot" that would have been balanced and into the "nerfuseless" territory. It really is exasperating. They could just adjust it 5%, then say "almost", then another 5% a week later, until they hit what they feel is balanced. ya wtf. you can't expect us to be okay with a 20% nerf out of blues man, god dammit why don't you just **** us in the ass. It better bet 10% max (or give us a full respec jk) I am a heavy professional. When it comes to Forging, i am unmatchable.
Centurion mkII Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 207	Posted - 2014.03.26 01:59:00 - [124] - Quote Based on my experinces the heavy suits are reasonably balanced. By reasonably balance i mean all multiplayer games have imbalances its about getting as close to perfect as possible. As it stands now I get melted and I melt others. I feel chunky but should im a heavy. You have it at the point that despite the reduced speed you still feel like you absorb more damage then mediums. I don't think a reduction is needed. Proto Minnie Logistics Proto Gallente Heavy Proto Gallente Scout
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 31	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:29:00 - [125] - Quote First let me state that I omni soldier with advanced or DREN. Secondly, that if you solo a tank or a Sentinel with a HMG the outcome should most always have a negative outcome. 20% of anything is always going to be too much! I think CCP in this case should provide a "situation awareness" advantage to the medium suits by adding 5 meters scanning range,(50%) more than the heavies. Scouts shoot and knife me from behind because they have learned how to flank. In RL if you hijack an airplane and allow SOF to board, you better have a buddy to help fight the Snake Eater in his heavy suit strolling down the aisle.
Big miku TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 350	Posted - 2014.03.26 02:45:00 - [126] - Quote I quit for a month, come back, heavies are good again, tanks are still OP in the readline and it is time to Nerf Heavies? Glad I quit wasting my money on boosters
Scottie MaCallan Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2014.03.26 03:36:00 - [127] - Quote dragonfly scout suit has incorrect amount of slots (2 high/2 low instead of 1 high/3 low) and incorrect amount of CPU/PG. other stats may be stuck at 1.7 stats still but I didn't check them all
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1054	Posted - 2014.03.26 04:08:00 - [128] - Quote Scottie MaCallan wrote: dragonfly scout suit has incorrect amount of slots (2 high/2 low instead of 1 high/3 low) and incorrect amount of CPU/PG. other stats may be stuck at 1.7 stats still but I didn't check them all This might get a Dev to do something in the Technical Bugs forum. Of course, it might not just as well. However this post is about their hot fix Nerf Hammers of Doom that will be applied Soon(BS). After everybody has spent their never to be refunded again SP allowing the regrets to be maximized. And so it goes.
Wayward Psycho The Generals General Tso's Alliance 17	Posted - 2014.03.26 04:38:00 - [129] - Quote Heavies are still weak on their own. Using a scout I can still 1 on 1 a heavy... Heavies are only op when their is a stampede of them... ^ earlier today I stood my ground against 4 heavies... on my hud I see all the blue dots turn and run. Or when Heavies run in a competent squad.
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 356	Posted - 2014.03.26 04:50:00 - [130] - Quote -_- I swear to ****, you guys don't even know what heavies are supposed to be in your own god damn game. I see lots of people soloing heavies as is. Cloaked shotgunners can take my proto sentinel down easily. 20% is ridiculously high. Heavies are not OP! If you bothered to play your own game, you would know this. Don't make heavies into slow medium suits. That is just ignorant. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor

Bax Zanith 95	Posted - 2014.03.26 06:36:00 - [131] - Quote 20% reduction? I kand of want to know what CCPs thought possess was on this randome heavy nerf. I'll try it, but if I can't do my job because of this nerf then I don't know what I'll do... maybe committe suicide in public areas. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 398	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:11:00 - [132] - Quote Like I said, I'm not particularly afraid of my Amarr Sentinel going from +1600 eHP to +1200, but I'm really disappointed that if you nerf us by such a large percentage, we won't feel the Rail Rifle TTK increase at all. What I do fear for is the Minmatar and Caldari sentinels. They don't have enough HP for you to be nerfing it. Speaking from experience running around in a Dragonfly C/1, shields are NOT strong in this game so Caldari will suffer. Minmatar is squishy as it is and is effectively a suicide ganker. Do you realize THIS IS ANOTHER AV NERF? I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
Jack Boost Zarena Family 348	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:24:00 - [133] - Quote So - when we get hotfix for hotfix. CCP read this carefuly: THERE IS NO VALID AV WEAPON - BECAUSE 'STATS DO NOT APPLY AT RESPAWN - BUG' LEAD TO FORGE CHARGE TIME IS DESYNHRONIZED CLIENT/SERVER SIDE. There is no way to use forge now with tank spawn. If you removed ALL valid ways to destroy vehicles - you can also remove it from game. From this point of view game is unplayable now. (just look at BUGS forum and see how much ppl write about this)
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2218	Posted - 2014.03.26 07:34:00 - [134] - Quote please only nerf 20% of armor OR shields please you allready gave the ammar commando 40 less hp than you listed in the patch notes... You can barely fit anything please don't overnerf the heavy hp ... whating it's been 1 day are you thinking...
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1060	Posted - 2014.03.26 08:23:00 - [135] - Quote Wayward Psycho wrote: Heavies are still weak on their own. Using a scout I can still 1 on 1 a heavy... Heavies are only op when their is a stampede of them... ^ earlier today I stood my ground against 4 heavies... on my hud I see all the blue dots turn and run. Or when Heavies run in a competent squad. What was your fit and weapon? If you don't mind answering that is. I am avoiding all suits for now but I would like more information in case this settles out and Dust becomes playable again. Sometime. Later. Maybe. And so it goes.
TheWee BabySeamus Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 92	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:30:00 - [136] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future. Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements. Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed). This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created. BOO THIS MAN!!!!!!! DDB Director & Bitter Vet My Minmatar Heavy eats Medium frames for a snack..............I'm fat :(
Rami Hamilo Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 67	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:39:00 - [137] - Quote Didn't you guys know that the Devs never listen to the players? They're going to apply this hot fix, make heavies like fat, slow assault suits, waste everyone's time by not giving a respec, and then have even more people leave the game? I think their goal is to really make this assault suit 514 and have as many people possible leave the game. If they don't give us a respec for nerfing heavies, so many people will leave the game. I know a handful has already left since the logi nerf.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 400	Posted - 2014.03.26 09:52:00 - [138] - Quote NO guys. We were in a PC against at least 6 heavies and there was NO WAY we could've won. We got SLAUGHTERED BY HMGs. Thank you CCP for realizing this for us, we are ignorant, trying to tell you what to do without having tried the heavies long enough You can't just pick off heavies and their logis with rail rifles now. There's more to it than that with all these sentinels running around I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
Rami Hamilo Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 67	Posted - 2014.03.26 10:11:00 - [139] - Quote bamboo x wrote: NO guys. We were in a PC against at least 6 heavies and there was NO WAY we could've won. We got SLAUGHTERED BY HMGs. Thank you CCP for realizing this for us, we are ignorant, trying to tell you what to do without having tried the heavies long enough You can't just pick off heavies and their logis with rail rifles now. There's more to it than that with all these sentinels running around That's because Rail Rifles are primarily used against shield tankers. Get an armor weapon and a flux. I wasted many heavies with my BPO suit and an Exiled AR already. Maybe you guys just sucked.
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 159	Posted - 2014.03.26 10:42:00 - [140] - Quote Deep breathes Cap ....1 and 2 and 3 aaaah , ok Im calm. Please nerf the shottie , we cannot get enough distance from the cloaking scout to be competitive (rem you nerfed the dam mod). Then basic suits ...why have them? Make them useful by making them cheaper versions . Then lastly please limit the amount of tanks per side , Im so fokken sick and tired of tanks its not even funny anymore really... Trust me on the above and Do this !!! Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1

CLONE ALPHA 001 Ultramarine Corp 15	Posted - 2014.03.26 10:59:00 - [141] - Quote CCP YOU ARE BAD AT DUST AND SHOULD FEEL BAD! YOU DONT NEED TO NERF HEAVIES! REMEMBER THE MASS DRIVER?
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 159	Posted - 2014.03.26 11:00:00 - [142] - Quote bamboo x wrote: NO guys. We were in a PC against at least 6 heavies and there was NO WAY we could've won. We got SLAUGHTERED BY HMGs. Thank you CCP for realizing this for us, we are ignorant, trying to tell you what to do without having tried the heavies long enough You can't just pick off heavies and their logis with rail rifles now. There's more to it than that with all these sentinels running around Pisss OFF !!! I knew coming to the forums was a mistake ....! CCP Im taking my 365 players and 5 paying Eve accounts and my God Damn ISK to PANDA LAND if your continue with this roller coaster up and down bull **** ride of yours !!!! Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 403	Posted - 2014.03.26 11:37:00 - [143] - Quote Rami Hamilo wrote: bamboo x wrote: NO guys. We were in a PC against at least 6 heavies and there was NO WAY we could've won. We got SLAUGHTERED BY HMGs. Thank you CCP for realizing this for us, we are ignorant, trying to tell you what to do without having tried the heavies long enough You can't just pick off heavies and their logis with rail rifles now. There's more to it than that with all these sentinels running around That's because Rail Rifles are primarily used against shield tankers. Get an armor weapon and a flux. I wasted many heavies with my BPO suit and an Exiled AR already. Maybe you guys just sucked. You're wrong, RR is a hybrid railgun. Minus 10% to shield plus 20% to armor. I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 403	Posted - 2014.03.26 11:41:00 - [144] - Quote Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Pisss OFF !!! I knew coming to the forums was a mistake ....! CCP Im taking my 365 players and 5 paying Eve accounts and my God Damn ISK to PANDA LAND if you continue with this roller coaster up and down bull **** ride of yours !!!! There were actually 8 to 10 heavies in a city map, completely destroying us. I'm a sentinel ak.0 and my goddamn HMG resistance wasn't even applying. So you're telling me you want to get proto stomped by a bunch of walking tanks that can't be killed in city maps and bunkered objectives? I laugh at your CR, HMG, SMG, LR, ScR, AR, ScP & IoP
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 161	Posted - 2014.03.26 11:44:00 - [145] - Quote LOL you just change your game plan ....just put distance between you and the squad with one scout running hacking objectives...or what ever.... use remotes FFS ! Join the March ,see the universe , meet interesting people and kill them G£¬ http://grimmarch.wix.com/grim-march-ver1
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 308	Posted - 2014.03.26 12:21:00 - [146] - Quote is there a planned hot fix for active scanners? they're broken right now, and make running a scout other than gal/cal awful Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
lAssassinl Zer0 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2014.03.26 13:00:00 - [147] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: With the Uprising 1.8 Deployment, we are also looking at some additional hotfixes in the near future. Caldari Scout CK.0 and Caldari 'Neo' Scout CK.0 have switched skill requirements. Further internal playtesting has shown that the heavy EHP is too high, and it will be lowered (likely by about 20%, but this is to be confirmed). This thread will be updated with more hotfixes as they are created. The Heavies Ehp is not ap roblem, the problem is that they're able to use Light weapons, get off the Light weapons for heavies (exept commandos) and you have balanced Heavies.
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2014.03.26 13:04:00 - [148] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: This thread is basically just telling us what the FOTM is going to be lol WRONG..... cloak and re's are the FOTM! killed 4 heavies with one remote yesterday. Signed, Sealed, Delivered
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 68	Posted - 2014.03.26 13:09:00 - [149] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Define 'near future'... Aiming for over the next couple of weeks. Nooooo whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, I was having so much fun in my god-mode heavy :( CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over!
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 115	Posted - 2014.03.26 13:10:00 - [150] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Captain Africa Clone1 wrote: Pisss OFF !!! I knew coming to the forums was a mistake ....! CCP Im taking my 365 players and 5 paying Eve accounts and my God Damn ISK to PANDA LAND if you continue with this roller coaster up and down bull **** ride of yours !!!! There were actually 8 to 10 heavies in a city map, completely destroying us. I'm a sentinel ak.0 and my goddamn HMG resistance wasn't even applying. So you're telling me you want to get proto stomped by a bunch of walking tanks that can't be killed in city maps and bunkered objectives? Waaaaaaaaaaaaa what a little baby. I kill heavies all day long. Its called skill. Not that hard. I killed 300+ yesterday with my scout suit/remotes/shotty. Get good scrub. Signed, Sealed, Delivered



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