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Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:01:00 - [1] - Quote I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Onesimus Tarsus TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 1339	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:08:00 - [2] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2951	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:08:00 - [3] - Quote Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. I GÖú Kittens.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:14:00 - [4] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:15:00 - [5] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Did someone abuse you? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11942	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:20:00 - [6] - Quote Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3318	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:22:00 - [7] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Did someone abuse you? CCP abused us all, didn't you know. Everybody left is just here on Stockholm Syndrome. No.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:22:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1472	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:24:00 - [9] - Quote Run militia fits, spec some into core skills. 1.8 patch is released in 2 weeks or so with new stuff. Drop it like its hat.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11942	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [10] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? It takes more SP to fill out all that equipment, but even just using all standard gear you can pull in good WP each match doing this. Use a MLT dropship at the start of matches to place your uplinks in hard to reach places, and put your nanohives up there so your team can camp them and you get more WP. You might lose the match since your team just ends up camping on towers, but what do you care? You soak up the WP, and don't earn anything extra for a win as opposed to a loss. Reps give you TONS of WP since they removed the WP cap, just follow a heavy around. Scanners will give you oodles of points in a squad, particularly from orbitals, and 60 WP every time someone dies and doesn't bleed out is just money in the bank. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 912	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [11] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? It's a real strategy, but it usually only works if your team is the losing one. If your team is doing the stomping then you won't get as many points. Also, uplinks are only good if they don't get destroyed, so learn which maps benefit from uplinks in dropship access only areas. And learn to fly.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1224	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [12] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. i c wat u did dere "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2956	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [13] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. 10,000,000 is plenty to have 1 thoroughly badass build. Max out your 4 main dropsuit upgrades (armor, shields, biotics, and CPU/PG) Light Weapons Operations and Sidearms Operations to level 5 Handheld Weapons Upgrades to level 5 Your favorite weapon to level 5, and level 5 Proficiency Favorite dropsuit level 3 on basic frame and level 5 on the racial variant That should leave you with about 1.5 million left to invest in a couple of ADV trinkets. I GÖú Kittens.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:28:00 - [14] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Run militia fits, spec some into core skills. 1.8 patch is released in 2 weeks or so with new stuff. Which core skills will help the most? It seems like people recommend militia stuff. The basic seems so cheap and it has better fitting requirements. What is the reason for running inferior gear? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:32:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? It takes more SP to fill out all that equipment, but even just using all standard gear you can pull in good WP each match doing this. Use a MLT dropship at the start of matches to place your uplinks in hard to reach places, and put your nanohives up there so your team can camp them and you get more WP. You might lose the match since your team just ends up camping on towers, but what do you care? You soak up the WP, and don't earn anything extra for a win as opposed to a loss. Reps give you TONS of WP since they removed the WP cap, just follow a heavy around. Scanners will give you oodles of points in a squad, particularly from orbitals, and 60 WP every time someone dies and doesn't bleed out is just money in the bank. Thank you. I am going to try this. Is there a way to win? That would be preferable. This game sounds brutal. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7160	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:34:00 - [16] - Quote Dust community, why haven't you given this guy a straight answer yet? Goregasm Elite, the answer to your question is that no play style allows the fastest character progression to any significant degree. The reason behind this is that there are three ways to gain skill points, 1. Passively 2. Daily log-ins 3. Actively Obviously no matter what play style you choose, the amount of points you gain passively and through logging in are the same. Now the thing to consider with actively gaining skill points how those points are rewarded. The answer is simple Active skill points rewarded = (Seconds spent in battle x 5) + (warpoints earned x 1) Now let's say your typical skirmish match lasts 15 minutes. That is 900 seconds, meaning 4500 SP just from that part of of the equation alone. Now as you can see quite clearly, whether you gain 500 WP, 1000 WP, or 2000 WP a match, most your points are coming from simply participating (unfortunately, depending on who you ask). So my advice to you is don't pick a role based on how fast you can gain SP, but rather pick a role on what you think is fun. P.S. Passive points are rewarded 1,000 an hour, so 24,000 a day and 168,000 a week. Login in at max is 6,000 a day so 42,000 a week. Active points are rewarded up to 190,400 a week. After you hit the active cap for the week you can still earn up to 1,000 WP. Ignoring any points gained after hitting the cap, you gain 400,400 SP a week. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 324	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:38:00 - [17] - Quote Don't spend any points until we know if 1.8 comes with any form of Respec. If we don't get one, wait to see all the final stats. If we are getting one, spend your points frivolously to try things out (note, only spend them on things they state we get back, more than likely dropsuit command stuff). xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:41:00 - [18] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Dust community, why haven't you given this guy a straight answer yet? Goregasm Elite, the answer to your question is that no play style allows the fastest character progression to any significant degree. The reason behind this is that there are three ways to gain skill points, 1. Passively 2. Daily log-ins 3. Actively Obviously no matter what play style you choose, the amount of points you gain passively and through logging in are the same. Now the thing to consider with actively gaining skill points is how those points are rewarded. The answer is simple Active skill points rewarded = (Seconds spent in battle x 5) + (warpoints earned x 1) Now let's say your typical skirmish match lasts 15 minutes. That is 900 seconds, meaning 4500 SP just from that part of of the equation alone. Now as you can see quite clearly, whether you gain 500 WP, 1000 WP, or 2000 WP a match, most your points are coming from simply participating (unfortunately, depending on who you ask). So my advice to you is don't pick a role based on how fast you can gain SP, but rather pick a role on what you think is fun. P.S. Passive points are rewarded 1,000 an hour, so 24,000 a day and 168,000 a week. Login in at max is 6,000 a day so 42,000 a week. Active points are rewarded up to 190,400 a week. After you hit the active cap for the week you can still earn up to 1,000 WP. Ignoring any points gained after hitting the cap, you gain 400,400 SP a week. Highly educational. After the cap those WP = SP? Also there are two other slots for creating characters, I notice they do not receive passive skill point gain. Can I use these for something or are they just for show? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:45:00 - [19] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Don't spend any points until we know if 1.8 comes with any form of Respec. If we don't get one, wait to see all the final stats. If we are getting one, spend your points frivolously to try things out (note, only spend them on things they state we get back, more than likely dropsuit command stuff). Though doing passive things (CPU, PG, Armor, Shields, and Biotics) never really hurt anyone, unless they didn't do them. Re-Specialization? I heard you can not do that. Was I misinformed? With how complicated everything is, it would be a nice feature. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:48:00 - [20] - Quote How do the skill multipliers work? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7168	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:49:00 - [21] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: snip Highly educational. After the cap those WP = SP? Also there are two other slots for creating characters, I notice they do not receive passive skill point gain. Can I use these for something or are they just for show? Yes sorry I should of been more clear. After you hit the cap for the week you get as much SP per match as your WP, with a cap of 1000. So if you gain 852 WP in a match after cap, you'll get 852 more SP. If you get 1000 WP in a match after cap, you'll get 1000 more SP. And if you get 3000 WP in a match after cap, you'll still get just 1000 more SP. Weekly cap resets every Wednesday on downtime (so to use right now as an example, after the next downtime the cap will be reset). You can create a second and third character as an alt and I believe back in the closed beta CCP allowed them to gain passive points as well, but currently you cannot. You can still log into them every day to get the log in bonus, but that is a very slow progression if its your only source of SP. If there is another account on your PS3 however and that account has a character on Dust then it will receive passive skill points (one of the many reason people suggest that CCP simply allow our two given alts to receive passive SP). Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 327	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:51:00 - [22] - Quote A base x1 skill costs around 310,000 sp to get to level 5, so, just take that number times whatever the multiplier to get how much level 5. That's all. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 407	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:52:00 - [23] - Quote secondary characters are good for other types of playstyles or out right espionage and theft, keep the theft part in mind
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:54:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: You can create a second and third character as an alt and I believe back in the closed beta CCP allowed them to gain passive points as well, but currently you cannot. You can still log into them every day to get the log in bonus, but that is a very slow progression if its your only source of SP. If there is another account on your PS3 however and that account has a character on Dust then it will receive passive skill points (one of the many reason people suggest that CCP simply allow our two given alts to receive passive SP). Good thinking. Do I need more than one character? Is it better to use one or switch to a another after the skill points start to trickle? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:56:00 - [25] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: A base x1 skill costs around 310,000 sp to get to level 5, so, just take that number times whatever the multiplier to get how much level 5. That's all. Thanks. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2496	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:58:00 - [26] - Quote A lot of people will tell you to go for the FoTM. Don't listen. Save your SP till we find out about the next update. We should be getting a blog in a week or so and the update shortly after. I believe the system goes: Cores to 3 Suit Weapon There is no right suit to use(though most will say to go for a Cal or Gal Logi) or right weapon(though most people will say RR/CR/ScR or some jerks will say the AR) Stick with MLT suits and throw a point or two into a few weapons to test the waters. With the login bonus I think you get a extra 42,000 sp a week(after maxing it out in the 7th day) so consider that a little bonus to you around with some weapons. Give us a idea of what your play style is, what you have tried and what you wanna try to do overall. Do you intend to stick to the ground? Vehicles? Are you a fan of armour? Shields? Reps? Would you rather sneak around? Defend a point? Be a force multiplier? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 441	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:58:00 - [27] - Quote Guitar class: Heavy Piano class: Logi Scout & Other Meds in between. 32db Mad Bomber.
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 64	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:00:00 - [28] - Quote My advice, listen to Aero Yassavi and don't spend your sp on weapons and dropsuits yet. The best thing is to get your dropsuit upgrades done(Shield, Armor, core, electronics, and engineering) these will be you most important in survivability and fitting you dropsuits with good gear when you chose your dropsuit, weapons, equipment. Now under you armor and shield upgrades are you choices of armor plates/repairs, shield extenders/regulators/and energizers. you don't want to skill those till you decide what suit you want., well maybe not the armour reps because I use one on every suit I disagree with Ryno(?) I would not worry about handheld weapon upgrades( gives you damage modules) to start with depending on your suit I would worry about what I listed above Just my opinion. Proud Commando/ARC Instructor "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:04:00 - [29] - Quote Thanjac wrote: My advice, listen to Aero Yassavi and don't spend your sp on weapons and dropsuits yet. The best thing is to get your dropsuit upgrades done(Shield, Armor, core, electronics, and engineering) these will be you most important in survivability and fitting you dropsuits with good gear when you chose your dropsuit, weapons, equipment. Now under you armor and shield upgrades are you choices of armor plates/repairs, shield extenders/regulators/and energizers. you don't want to skill those till you decide what suit you want., well maybe not the armour reps because I use one on every suit I disagree with Ryno(?) I would not worry about handheld weapon upgrades( gives you damage modules) to start with depending on your suit I would worry about what I listed above Just my opinion. The core skills are part of my clone right? Do they apply to all of my load-outs? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 64	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:05:00 - [30] - Quote Yes, not sure if they apply to your starterfits though(your Free suits) Proud Commando/ARC Instructor "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 327	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:07:00 - [31] - Quote Thanjac wrote: Yes, not sure if they apply to your starterfits though(your Free suits) They do. That's why if you look at a starter fit now, you'll think "what was CCP thinking, there is so much extra CPU/PG, this suit could be a lot better". At least, that's what I thought when I remade one for $hits and giggles. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 66	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:10:00 - [32] - Quote Maybe that is why I can fit ADV weapon on it Proud Commando/ARC Instructor "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 141	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:12:00 - [33] - Quote As a new player I'd listen to what someone else said and not skill into anything until a guaranteed respec comes for 1.8. As for going FOTM if you want to be respected carve you're own path with whatever you really desire to play with. As for what class is easiest to skill into, personally I'd say the assault class. I'm usually near the top in kills running an adv assault suit, adv gun, standard secondary, proto damage mods, basic armor and shielding and an adv equipment. This is not hard to get, I'd say two weeks or three weeks maybe if you don't spend any sp foolishly. Heavies would be the next easier thing to skill into but it requires more SP for the suits and guns which is why I believe it will take longer plus heavies rely heavily on the support of a squad. The assault you can run around and support yourself a little with your own equipment. Scouts and Logis are the hardest to skill into because they require so many different skills to be truly viable. Scouts need proto dampeners just to be viable to play at a high level as well as everything listed for an assault and logis need good equipment and the ability to survive. If I were you'd I'd skill into nothing and just stack my SP until 1.8. Play some faction warfare and use the LP to try out suits and guns.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:14:00 - [34] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Give us a idea of what your play style is, what you have tried and what you wanna try to do overall. I am good at shooters. I have played Call of Duty and Battlefield. I usually join a clan and work with my team. A few can overcome many if we all have the same focus. I would say I am best close to mid range. I have a lot of tricks that seem to hold true to most games. 1 on 1 I can usually kill my opponent. Thinking outside the box has always worked best for me. Oh flanking is my bread and butter. I haven't tried Dust yet. I want to not suck. You guys are filling in so much info that I need. How come the game designers do not include this in a tutorial? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Chuckles Brown 208	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:14:00 - [35] - Quote Railgun tanker The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial Do you pub, brah?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1477	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:16:00 - [36] - Quote You should run a militia gallente medium suit with 3 militia armor plates or a militia amarr heavy to get decent HP. :) Drop it like its hat.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:20:00 - [37] - Quote I am getting a lot of feedback about HP. Wouldn't it be better to not get shot? How much should I have? I see I get slower when I put on more armor, are shields better? They have a recharge rate but most suits do not have a built in repair rate. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1938	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:22:00 - [38] - Quote A militia tank. For the Federation!
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:27:00 - [39] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: A militia tank. I can get these with no Skill Points spent. How should I fit one? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7175	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:27:00 - [40] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: How do the skill multipliers work? If a skill is x1, then the following applies: Level 1: 6,220 SP Level 2: 18,650 SP Level 3: 43,530 SP Level 4: 87,060 SP Level 5: 155,460 SP Total: 310,920 SP Whatever the multiplier is, you simply multiply each level cost by that value. So a x4 skill for example would take 1,243,680 SP to max out. Something super important to note is that the SP cost to go from level 0 to level 4 added up is the same exact SP cost to go from level 4 to level 5. This is why you may hear from some people not to get anything to level 5 unless you absolutely need to, for instance taking your dropsuit skill to level 5 to use prototype variants or a weapon operations to level 5 so you can unlock the weapon proficiency skill. Goregasm Elite wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: You can create a second and third character as an alt and I believe back in the closed beta CCP allowed them to gain passive points as well, but currently you cannot. You can still log into them every day to get the log in bonus, but that is a very slow progression if its your only source of SP. If there is another account on your PS3 however and that account has a character on Dust then it will receive passive skill points (one of the many reason people suggest that CCP simply allow our two given alts to receive passive SP). Good thinking. Do I need more than one character? Is it better to use one or switch to a another after the skill points start to trickle? Having more than one character is good if you want to test something out without spending any SP on your main character. Then there's also the use of alternate characters in meta-gaming such as spying and whatnot. Honestly if you know what you want to do then you don't really need a second character. And if you plan on capping out a second character every week after you cap out your main, consider the following. Say you get 6000 SP a match so it takes you about 30 matches to cap out. You can then go to play 30 matches on your second character, or you can play 30 more matches on your main character and get 1,000 SP per match meaning an extra 30,000 SP that week. It may not sound like much, but over the long haul it can be quite substantial. Though I honestly can't imagine anyone playing 60 matches a week regularly. Goregasm Elite wrote: Thanjac wrote: My advice, listen to Aero Yassavi and don't spend your sp on weapons and dropsuits yet. The best thing is to get your dropsuit upgrades done(Shield, Armor, core, electronics, and engineering) these will be you most important in survivability and fitting you dropsuits with good gear when you chose your dropsuit, weapons, equipment. Now under you armor and shield upgrades are you choices of armor plates/repairs, shield extenders/regulators/and energizers. you don't want to skill those till you decide what suit you want., well maybe not the armour reps because I use one on every suit I disagree with Ryno(?) I would not worry about handheld weapon upgrades( gives you damage modules) to start with depending on your suit I would worry about what I listed above Just my opinion. The core skills are part of my clone right? Do they apply to all of my load-outs? Yes. Basically just go to the skill tree and press Triangle on the skill and read the description. If it says some bonus for dropsuits in general (or vehicles in general if you want to go down that route) than that is what people consider a core skill. These include things like Armor Upgrades and Shield Upgrades, as well as Dropsuit Electronics and Dropsuit Engineering (though personally I would only skill into Electronics and Engineering as needed, do the math before hand to see if you need the extra CPU or PG they provide). If the skill says something regarding efficacy of a specific type of module than that will only apply if you are using those modules and as such aren't considered core skills. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7176	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:29:00 - [41] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: A militia tank. I can get these with no Skill Points spent. How should I fit one? If you use the Soma then make sure you add a militia armor repairer and militia armor hardener. If you use a Sica then make sure you add a militia shield booster and militia shield hardener. Everything else is up to you. Though please, please, please do not fit an afterburner on an HAV. Afterburner only applies to aerial vehicles, meaning just dropships right now. If you want to go faster, add a fuel injector. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 67	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:30:00 - [42] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: I am getting a lot of feedback about HP. Wouldn't it be better to not get shot? How much should I have? I see I get slower when I put on more armor, are shields better? They have a recharge rate but most suits do not have a built in repair rate. Depends on your suit, I personally have a minmatar logi on an alt I stack as much shield extenders/shield rechargers and some armor but more armor reps, now as you like to flank you would want as much shield or damage( your high slots) and dampening(your low slots) so you have some hp but it makes it harder to be scanned. This would work with scouts as they are naturally fast and hard to scan, making them the best at flanking, the other choice in my opinion is minmatar logi. they are fast and you have 2 low slots and two high slots at STD. And you can fit scanner, RE's, and an uplink. Proud Commando/ARC Instructor "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:31:00 - [43] - Quote This should help. It's well written and informative. Also, definitely spec into dropsuit upgrades, at the very least, armor and shield. You'll find they make you quite a bit less squishy. It won't be god mode, but it definitely helps. I would agree that logi, at least by placing links and hives in the beginning, is a great way to earn WP/SP. I would get adv links and hives and throw them in hidden/high spots and soak up the WP. You'll probably need to fly them up there, and to that effect, I would say buy some militia dropships and teach yourself to fly. I personally found the Gorgon easier to learn on, but some people prefer the Viper. Just take it up high and tool around till you get the hang of it. You will crash (probably a lot) and burn through a bit of ISK, but knowing how to fly is worth it and the MLT dropships aren't expensive. Beyond that, just try LP gear out before you spec into anything. That way, you aren't wasting your SP into something you won't use.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 795	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:37:00 - [44] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Give us a idea of what your play style is, what you have tried and what you wanna try to do overall. I am good at shooters. I have played Call of Duty and Battlefield. I usually join a clan and work with my team. A few can overcome many if we all have the same focus. I would say I am best close to mid range. I have a lot of tricks that seem to hold true to most games. 1 on 1 I can usually kill my opponent. Thinking outside the box has always worked best for me. Oh flanking is my bread and butter. I haven't tried Dust yet. I want to not suck. You guys are filling in so much info that I need. How come the game designers do not include this in a tutorial? The community has been getting on CCP about the tutorial for a while now. Thinking outside the box, flanking, best at close to mid range... these are indicators of a scout. This class is instant hard mode but if you get the hang of it you will find a massive amount of pleasure out of it. I applaud you for coming to the forums and asking questions. Not enough blue berries (originally described a player that is not in your immediate squad but the definition has slowly warped to any new player or poorly skilled player) come to the forums for help even though the community is more than happy to lend a helping hand. A few recommendations: Join an academy: There are corporations out there that are none-competitive and focuses solely on training players to be the best that they can be. Spend SP on core skills: Dropsuit core upgrades, Electronics, engineering, shields (at least lv 3), armor (at least lv 3), biotics(light frames/scouts reap the most benefit out of this), explosives (at least lv 3), and relevant weapon ops (light, heavy, sidearm). This will insure that no matter what path you choose you will have the basics out of the way (every path benefits from these skills). [Just throwing this out there] Dragon-Empire is always accepting new members. We are happy to help the new players both by giving advice and (if you are dedicated) financially. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 795	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:38:00 - [45] - Quote Argetlam Thorson wrote: This should help. It's well written and informative. Also, definitely spec into dropsuit upgrades, at the very least, armor and shield. You'll find they make you quite a bit less squishy. It won't be god mode, but it definitely helps. I would agree that logi, at least by placing links and hives in the beginning, is a great way to earn WP/SP. I would get adv links and hives and throw them in hidden/high spots and soak up the WP. You'll probably need to fly them up there, and to that effect, I would say buy some militia dropships and teach yourself to fly. I personally found the Gorgon easier to learn on, but some people prefer the Viper. Just take it up high and tool around till you get the hang of it. You will crash (probably a lot) and burn through a bit of ISK, but knowing how to fly is worth it and the MLT dropships aren't expensive. Beyond that, just try LP gear out before you spec into anything. That way, you aren't wasting your SP into something you won't use. ^ Yes, this guide is very accurate and is worth the read. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:41:00 - [46] - Quote This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Onesimus Tarsus TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 1347	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:44:00 - [47] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Did someone abuse you? Projection much? Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 160	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:45:00 - [48] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Dust community, why haven't you given this guy a straight answer yet? Goregasm Elite, the answer to your question is that no play style allows the fastest character progression to any significant degree. The reason behind this is that there are three ways to gain skill points, 1. Passively 2. Daily log-ins 3. Actively Obviously no matter what play style you choose, the amount of points you gain passively and through logging in are the same. Now the thing to consider with actively gaining skill points is how those points are rewarded. The answer is simple Active skill points rewarded = (Seconds spent in battle x 5) + (warpoints earned x 1) Now let's say your typical skirmish match lasts 15 minutes. That is 900 seconds, meaning 4500 SP just from that part of of the equation alone. Now as you can see quite clearly, whether you gain 500 WP, 1000 WP, or 2000 WP a match, most your points are coming from simply participating (unfortunately, depending on who you ask). So my advice to you is don't pick a role based on how fast you can gain SP, but rather pick a role on what you think is fun. P.S. Passive points are rewarded 1,000 an hour, so 24,000 a day and 168,000 a week. Login in at max is 6,000 a day so 42,000 a week. Active points are rewarded up to 190,400 a week. After you hit the active cap for the week you can still earn up to 1,000 WP. Ignoring any points gained after hitting the cap, you gain 400,400 SP a week. Highly educational. After the cap those WP = SP? Also there are two other slots for creating characters, I notice they do not receive passive skill point gain. Can I use these for something or are they just for show? Additional characters on the same PSN are best used for creating alts to use initial SP to try weapons or dropsuits before spending SP on your main account. I would recommend starting another PSN and character to sit and gather passive SP for the future. Almost everyone who sticks around awhile creates an alt eventually to try a different play style, get a jump on it now. Also, Aero is exactly right, there is no "One Ring". What you do well with is typically what you enjoy and what will keep you playing to enjoy all that SP. Also, was 10,000,000 a friggin typo! If not, try alot of militia items before you blow all that SP on something you'll hate. Not new, just new to you.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7176	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:46:00 - [49] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? But the benefit of Dropsuit Shield Upgrades is that once you have it you spend no ISK, don't need to use any CPU or PG on your dropsuit, and it applies to all the dropsuits you will ever use. Yes the actual shield extenders will give you more shield up front though. Ideally you want both shield upgrades and shield extenders if you are aiming to be a shield based unit. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 300	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:46:00 - [50] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Give us a idea of what your play style is, what you have tried and what you wanna try to do overall. I am good at shooters. I have played Call of Duty and Battlefield. I usually join a clan and work with my team. A few can overcome many if we all have the same focus. I would say I am best close to mid range. I have a lot of tricks that seem to hold true to most games. 1 on 1 I can usually kill my opponent. Thinking outside the box has always worked best for me. Oh flanking is my bread and butter. I haven't tried Dust yet. I want to not suck. You guys are filling in so much info that I need. How come the game designers do not include this in a tutorial? All that makes me think scout - but it take a little longer to get the skills a scout needs to be competetive compared to most others. Especially with 1.8 (relatively major update im sure you are aware by now) I'd just concentrate on core skills (shield, Armor, Biotics). Don't bother investing in dropsuit command until you are sure about what playstyle you prefer and undersand which suit is going to help you achive it the best. Use MLT meds/lights/heavies to get a feel for which direction you prefer. When it comes to modules and weapons just try the milita version or just invest in the first level to use the STD version for improved fitting. Invest in fitting skills when you realise you don't have enough CPU/PG for a specific fit you want to try. Fitting skills are never a waste, but quite SP intensive and early on there will be plenty of passive skills that will serve your needs in the here and now. If it is CPU you need, don't forget about light weapons, sidearm and explosives skills - when you just need 1-2 CPU these will often make a better early SP investment than electronics lv3/4 for example. If its PG you need, the relatively expensive Engineering skill is your best (pretty much only) option. Dropsuit Core Upgrades, upgrades both PG/CPU a tiny amount - it's cheap, but you pretty much have to get lv5 to see much significant difference for your PG especially. Uplinks are good for amassing WP for that extra ISK/SP and learning to place them is good for learning maps as well as player/squad behaviour. Compared to games like CoD or Battlefield, there are a lot of approaches to how you play - especially if you're the type of person who likes to exploit weaknesses in both load out and personality, it's worth paying attention to how allies and enemies play and fit their mercs - you might also pick up a few ideas you might want to try out yourself. This is all IMHO anyway. PS sign up for Dus University when you start and don't be afraid to post questions in the rookie training grounds (try searching first, but I find some technical/math stuff is a bit out of date). The Ghost of Bravo

ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 796	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:47:00 - [51] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? In 1.8 sentinels will have damage resistance and commandos will have a damage bonus. The caldari variants benefit the most from the shield skill but yes, shield extenders do infact give more then the shield skill. The shield extender skill will increase the effects of all shield extenders as well. Be carful though, shield tanking is good for hit and run but is not very effective for sustained fights. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:48:00 - [52] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? I would say no. Yes, the passive skill eats the SP up, but it will apply to every suit without taking up a fitting slot, CPU/PG, or costing you ISK on each suit. You can do both eventually or use the high slot (where extenders go) for other things like damage mods.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2499	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:48:00 - [53] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Give us a idea of what your play style is, what you have tried and what you wanna try to do overall. I am good at shooters. I have played Call of Duty and Battlefield. I usually join a clan and work with my team. A few can overcome many if we all have the same focus. I would say I am best close to mid range. I have a lot of tricks that seem to hold true to most games. 1 on 1 I can usually kill my opponent. Thinking outside the box has always worked best for me. Oh flanking is my bread and butter. I haven't tried Dust yet. I want to not suck. You guys are filling in so much info that I need. How come the game designers do not include this in a tutorial? If you plan on flanking, the scout may be for you, or at least a suit with a few lot slots for profile dampaners. The scout is not gonna allow you to 1v1 in a straight up fight, but it will allow you to get behind someone and murder them. At higher levels the scout can detect enemies passively and avoid almost all active scanners. However, they require a good amount of sp before that and they are the easiest suit to kill. A Gallente assault suit may help you here, it has the most low slots of any assault suit, so you can fit a profile damp or 2 and still be able to fight. Assault suits are general all around suits, designed to be at the front line. They are self reliant, but work better in a group. I'd say to stick with medium frame suits for now, and try each race before putting any sp into a suit. The assaults will be changing in 1.8 but for now they work like this: Amarr The highest base ehp and the slowest speed, they also have the least slots but the most CPU/PG. So while they can't fit more mods, they can fit better ones. They have even slot lay out at 3 highs, 3 lows at Proto. They also get bonuses to laser weapons. And have a pretty equal shield and armour set up. Meant for mid range fighting. Caldari Highest shields, lowest armour. 2nd fastest suit, 2nd most high slots. They also tie for lowest CPU/PG, though they are usually lack for CPU since they relay on high slots for everything. At Proto, they have 4 highs, 3 lows. They get bonuses to shield extenders and will most likely get bonuses to rail tech. Meant to be long range figheters. Gallente The opposite of Caldari. Highest armour, lowest shields. 2nd slowest suit, most low slots. Same CPU/PG of a Caldari suit. They have the lowest shield regain and should be getting natural armour regain in 1.8 of 2hp per sec. They get a bonus to fitting hybrid weapons and will most likely get a bonus to blaster tech in 1.8. They are meant to be the close range fighter. Minmatar Least ehp, fastest assault suit. Most highs, least lows. 5 highs, 2 lows. They have a natural armour regain of 1hp per sec. They also have the 2nd highest CPU/PG. They get a bonus to sidearm ammo, which will probably be changed in 1.8. They are meant to be hard hitters, but not meant to take a punch. Good at close to mid range. Take this with a grain of salt, it's just my take on the suits. I'm also kind of bias toward the GalAssault. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 330	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:49:00 - [54] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? Come 1.8 (March release) all heavy suits (Sentinel and Commando) will be released. Actively, yes, extenders give you more HP usually, but, passively, all suits get better. Plus, the negatives (Shield extenders increasing delay on recharge, armor making you slower) are not present with passive. Again, I'd wait, max out your passives 'til Saber or Logibro or one of our other overlords says yay or nay to repsecs. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 797	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:51:00 - [55] - Quote If you haven't done it yet,this thread will give you info on how the dropsuits will behave after the 1.8 update. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:56:00 - [56] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? But the benefit of Dropsuit Shield Upgrades is that once you have it you spend no ISK, don't need to use any CPU or PG on your dropsuit, and it applies to all the dropsuits you will ever use. Yes the actual shield extenders will give you more shield up front though. Ideally you want both shield upgrades and shield extenders if you are aiming to be a shield based unit. I am putting Shields, Armor, CPU, PG, and Biotics up to 5. It looks like I can still get the modules for shield and armor when I learn more. Can someone explain Profile? I think lower is better. What about precision? how does that work? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 797	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:57:00 - [57] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: This might be a dumb question but are shield extenders better than the passive skill? It looks like I can get more shields out of the extenders for less SP. The bonus is way less except for on the Amarr heavy, sentinel, and commando frames. Are these the only heavies presently? The moving speeds seem bad. Does the HP make up for that? But the benefit of Dropsuit Shield Upgrades is that once you have it you spend no ISK, don't need to use any CPU or PG on your dropsuit, and it applies to all the dropsuits you will ever use. Yes the actual shield extenders will give you more shield up front though. Ideally you want both shield upgrades and shield extenders if you are aiming to be a shield based unit. I am putting Shields, Armor, CPU, PG, and Biotics up to 5. It looks like I can still get the modules for shield and armor when I learn more. Can someone explain Profile? I think lower is better. What about precision? how does that work? lower IS better. In order to passively scan an enemy your precision has to be lower then there profile so again lower IS better. If you are going to be a heavy then just ignore profile. Range and precision is always an option though. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 802	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:59:00 - [58] - Quote TBH profile, range, and precision are considered Core skills if you are a scout/light frame. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Argetlam Thorson Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 18	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:38:00 - [59] - Quote I would put a couple of levels into all three:range, precision enhancement, and dampening. Simply because, at low levels, they don't take a whole lot of SP and I would say it's worth it. I wouldn't put much more than that into it early on, unless you want to be a scout. This however is my personal opinion. Those skills will make red dots pop up on your radar more often and make you pop up on theirs less, so if you think that will make a significant difference in your ability to play the game, by all means, spec more into them.
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 298	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:46:00 - [60] - Quote Logistics will easily earn you points. Get points for repping, droplink usage, nanohive usage etc. You don't even have to kill people, just tag along the other slayers and you'll earn a shitload of warpoints (that translates into skillpoints).

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 654	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:08:00 - [61] - Quote I use Boosters but I don't think they are important once you reach a certain point. I think you can state that it takes about 8-10 million SP to have a single role maxed out. Logistics, Scout, Assault, Heavy, Vehicles (though to a lesser extent as I have 17 million in there and don't have all prototype turret and shield stuff yet). If you log in everyday, that amounts to 30,000 SP a day from passive. 190,400 a week for Active. In total, you are looking at 400,400 SP a week. Having both boosters makes that 558,600 a week. So say you need 9 million to be a top of the line X, you are looking at (9 million - 500k start) / 558,600 = 15 weeks. So 4 months and you have that role maxed. Without boosters, (9 million - 500k start) / 400,400 = 21 weeks, 5 months and you have that role maxed. After that role is maxed (Infantry with a single weapon maxed or an armor vehicle with maybe one or two turrets close to max), getting more SP doesn't really help them. For me, I say get into a corporation if you can to be able to play with some friends. It is kind of sad but a single well organized team can completely stomp the enemy side into oblivion. That will give you some learning experience. Learning the maps goes a huge way of helping you out. I would avoid Ambush as it only is meant to shoot other dudes. Something like a Skirmish acts like an Ambush but gives everyone a central area to fight for and has an actual victory condition rather than kill all the mans. Don't put anymore points into something than you need to use it if you want to try it out. It is ridiculous that the CR and RR do not have their own Militia variants so if you want to use them you can either buy with AUR or get the skill to level 1. If you want to just try it out and already have some AUR I would argue just buying a couple of the guns, say 15 or so, to see if you like how it works. If you do, put a point into in and see if you really like it. I wouldn't get anything to prototype too soon. The way it works out, getting a skill from 1-3 is about a fifth of the price as to get it to prototype at 5. As noted, multipliers just multiply (shocker) the base amount of skills: 1: 6,220 2: 18,650 3: 43,530 4: 87,060 5: 155,460 (level 4-5 is the same price as 1-4) So Advanced is easy to get to and gives you a fair amount of pump in power. Getting a single skill to 5 is generally less useful than getting a couple to 3 IF those skills help out in the same role. IE, getting Assault Dropsuit to 5 is not nearly as useful as getting it to level 3 and getting a multitude of useful ones to 3. Again, they have to share the same role for the above to be true. Militia is perfectly fine at the start. I generally think it is true that you should work on core skills first that help regardless of role (Engineering, Electronics, Shield and Armor skills) because you can experiment with all kinds of stuff while playing the game. Want try out a Heavy suit? Use Militia. Forge Guns have a militia variant but you could skill into a single level for HMG or buy some AUR ones to test it out. If you cap out with your main character, go to an alt and use their innate 500k SP and some active to find out what you want to try. You could always make an extra account but whether or not this is legal by ToS is really hard to say. "One account per licensed copy" would even mean that siblings couldn't use the same PS3 because it is the same "licensed copy" so who knows for sure.
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 455	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:10:00 - [62] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: How do the skill multipliers work? It's good to see all the quality feedback you're getting. Everyone has already said everything I'd offer so I won't repeat any of it. For the skill multiplier, someone that I can't remember the name of put together a Google doc that shows the SP cost for all multipliers. Just follow the link below and bookmark it for future planning as it is extremely useful. I wish I could remember who put it together to give credit to them. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApXBj3IzrWnydE5iSWo5MTFMN3NlSjJZTUpFZXlvaGc#gid=0
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:44:00 - [63] - Quote How necessary are damage mods? I can kill people pretty easily. They just keep strafing back and forth, burst firing when they enter my sights seems to work. Doesn't any one use cover? Its a bit hilarious watching people die trying to dodge bullets. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 39	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:46:00 - [64] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Did someone abuse you? CCP abused us all, didn't you know. Everybody left is just here on Stockholm Syndrome. welcome to new eden
Marc Rime 300	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:46:00 - [65] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: ... I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? ... The active cap is 190400 per week.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:48:00 - [66] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: ... I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? ... The active cap is 190400 per week. Thank you, I will update that part. I seen a thread about it and it seems it is not completely common knowledge. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 459	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:54:00 - [67] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: How necessary are damage mods? I can kill people pretty easily. They just keep strafing back and forth, burst firing when they enter my sights seems to work. Doesn't any one use cover? Its a bit hilarious watching people die trying to dodge bullets. Depends on suits and the situation. The higher level suits have enough slots and CPU/PG to get good tank and stick one complex damage on. Some players put more on, some none. You'll have to find out want tank to gank suits you, but most people find that HP trumps damage mods. For AV suits, snipers and heavies though, damage mods are the way to go. Especially heavies as it doesn't make much sense to put anything in the high slots other than damage mods. When 1.8 hits though that will change with Caldari and Minmatar heavies.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:04:00 - [68] - Quote The percentages in the bottom right of the HUD are my damage against my enemies suits? I get them when I look at friendlies too. I figured out the abbreviations those PRO guys are formidable head on. I am guessing shields repel grenade damage or something. I bought a basic Assault rifle and a Combat rifle. I am not a huge fan of scoped weapons. Is there no customization? I feel in the far future I should have the technology to take a scope off of my rifle. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3024	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:07:00 - [69] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. I have an alt with 9 mil SP that's a heavy. You could take it into PC. proto suit, complex plates, complex damage mods, etc. I think heavy is the lowest SP investment, but the Caldari and Min heavies will take more SP to shine. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1900	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:08:00 - [70] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression You mean to tell me that the suits that use the most equipment at one time has the fastest progression? Where each piece of equipment, save nanohives and nanite injectors because they use the same skill prerequisite, needs almost a million SP each to get to level 5? You mean to tell me that's easy? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 457	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:08:00 - [71] - Quote get a standard assault(or something else if you want to) a std weapon and invest the rest into dropsuit upgrades the armor and shield tree is the best for beginners also uplinks are very good for gaining wp which translates too sp Proud Christian add p2p already!
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:15:00 - [72] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. I have an alt with 9 mil SP that's a heavy. You could take it into PC. proto suit, complex plates, complex damage mods, etc. I think heavy is the lowest SP investment, but the Caldari and Min heavies will take more SP to shine. I have tried a militia heavy suit. It's just not combat effective enough for me. It doesn't do well in a fight because it is slow and cumbersome. I do better in a militia medic and those are free. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3025	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:21:00 - [73] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. I have an alt with 9 mil SP that's a heavy. You could take it into PC. proto suit, complex plates, complex damage mods, etc. I think heavy is the lowest SP investment, but the Caldari and Min heavies will take more SP to shine. I have tried a militia heavy suit. It's just not combat effective enough for me. It doesn't do well in a fight because it is slow and cumbersome. I do better in a militia medic and those are free. Just going off of the OP. You can easily put 25 million SP into logi. It's by far the most SP intensive. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:25:00 - [74] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Just going off of the OP. You can easily put 25 million SP into logi. It's by far the most SP intensive. Maybe I am doing it wrong. I cant seem to show my face without getting riddled with fire. Are heavies supposed to be stealth units? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
X-eon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 91	Posted - 2014.03.04 20:57:00 - [75] - Quote Heavy's with HMG's are the superior cqc fighter in most aspects. What a lot of heavy players like to do to negate their slow movement is drive around in an LAV and hose down any players running around by themselves. Another thing you might want to know about is that, other than scouts, all suits have a built in scanning range of about 10 Meters (which is right in the heavy's kill zone.) So a heavy may be hiding behind a corner while you're walking up to an objective and you won't see him until you're in his clutches. Looking for LAV Pilots and Gunners. Join in game chat channel: LAV Research
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 623	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:18:00 - [76] - Quote X-eon wrote: Heavy's with HMG's are the superior cqc fighter in most aspects. What a lot of heavy players like to do to negate their slow movement is drive around in an LAV and hose down any players running around by themselves. Another thing you might want to know about is that, other than scouts, all suits have a built in scanning range of about 10 Meters (which is right in the heavy's kill zone.) So a heavy may be hiding behind a corner while you're walking up to an objective and you won't see him until you're in his clutches. That is where profile damps, Precision enhancers, and range amplifiers would be beneficial if you're looking to avoid harder targets until you get a better vantage point. Scanners work quite well in this regard, as well. Good to see you post, brother, and hope you're well. Haven't seen you online in a while...
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:20:00 - [77] - Quote X-eon wrote: Heavy's with HMG's are the superior cqc fighter in most aspects. What a lot of heavy players like to do to negate their slow movement is drive around in an LAV and hose down any players running around by themselves. Another thing you might want to know about is that, other than scouts, all suits have a built in scanning range of about 10 Meters (which is right in the heavy's kill zone.) So a heavy may be hiding behind a corner while you're walking up to an objective and you won't see him until you're in his clutches. That is where profile damps, Precision enhancers, and range amplifiers would be beneficial if you're looking to avoid harder targets until you get a better vantage point. I don't have a heavy machine gun yet. I could buy it but I am being cautious with skill points. There is a lot of points to spend before even unlocking it Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
X-eon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 92	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:31:00 - [78] - Quote Oh, so you're playing as a heavy. I misinterpreted your post. To try out the hmg without having to skill into it, play a minmitar faction warfare match. You'll gain Loyalty points that you can use in the loyalty store to buy level one items for the points and a bit of isk. You can do this for almost all weapons as well as dropsuits without having to skill into them. I'd say do the same for the amarr heavy so you can get some extra slots to work with. The 1 hi and 1 low on a militia heavy is very limiting so you can't really stack armor and reps. @Leadfoot That's partly because of game frustration and midterms. I'll be back on regularly after midterms though. Looking for LAV Pilots and Gunners. Join in game chat channel: LAV Research
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 802	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:32:00 - [79] - Quote Well if you're really going the heavy route then my question to you is, are you going to be a sentinel (beefy and hard to kill) or a commando (in 1.8, the biggest damage dealer available)? Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2303	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:15:00 - [80] - Quote If you are starting with 10 million SP, first thing you should get is Core Upgrades 5, Electronics 5, and Engineering 5. It hurts, and it sucks saving for those later. Just get them now. Then you can figure out what kind of playstyle you want later (fyi dont spend any SP in dropsuit command until 1.8 for sure). Then decide if you want an equipment based build (logi), an assault rifle based build (assault), a high ehp and slower moving heavy build, or a quick, low hp + cloaking scout build. Then you can build your weapon and shield/armor considerations around your dropsuit choice and go from there.

One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 459	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:30:00 - [81] - Quote I suggest hitting the training grounds section here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=899 There are many good suggestions and places for advice. Looking for the scout hangout?
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:41:00 - [82] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: If you are starting with 10 million SP, first thing you should get is Core Upgrades 5, Electronics 5, and Engineering 5. It hurts, and it sucks saving for those later. Just get them now. Then you can figure out what kind of playstyle you want later (fyi dont spend any SP in dropsuit command until 1.8 for sure). Then decide if you want an equipment based build (logi), an assault rifle based build (assault), a high ehp and slower moving heavy build, or a quick, low hp + cloaking scout build. Then you can build your weapon and shield/armor considerations around your dropsuit choice and go from there. I took this advice. I also got shields and armor. I bought a few basic weapons and equipment to test out too. Someone ingame said to get advanced grenades. They were pretty convincing so I purchased those as well. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Eberk Baldek Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 39	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:42:00 - [83] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression I agree more or less. And I even love my heavy repping logi suit. I just played in an epic Domination with maybe 5 or 6 heavies per side with HMGS at A. What a blast! I died 11 times, 5 or so in OBs , but it was worth it! You do get loads of warpoints, but fewer kills maybe ... if you actually repair ... Only got 5 or so kills in this battle . The grinding can get a little boring .
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1556	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:44:00 - [84] - Quote this is really soul less we are basically min maxing a suit out for him... but there is a lot of good information for new players here and it answers a lot of questions not covered in the tutorial, so I'll lend my expertise. it looks like you're a heavy, your job is tanking and dealing absurd amounts of damage. you have the most health of any suit in the game but the trade off is that you're slow and have a high scan profile. I'm a scout so I don't know much about heavys but scanning and stealth is my trade. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ you inquired about scan precision, radius, & profile. scan profile: how easy it is for scanners to pick you up. (the lower your profile the better) scan precision: every suit has a built in scanner, the precision of your scanner is how "good" that scanner is.(low is good) scan range: the range in meters of your suits built in scanner.(default is 10m for heavys i think) how does it work? lets say you have a scan profile of 65db and I have a scanner with a scan precision of 55db since my suit scanner's precision is lower than your profile you appear on my mini map as long as you are in range of the scanner and a red chevron appears above your head even if you're in cover or behind a wall. if your scan profile is lower than my scan precision, however, you don't appear on the map or get the red chevron. the same effect as being scanned is produced by having someone in your line of sight (LoS). LoS has a perfect precision and is impossible to avoid by lowering scan profile(for now). LoS scans have a range of 90 meters [citation needed] so anything outside of 90m will not appear on your mini map or get the chevron even if you're looking right at them.(not sure how LoS scan is effected by sniper scopes) "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" some players use "active" scanners this is a piece of equipment that provides a temporary boost to the user's scan range and precision. it adds a orange red pulse affect to scanned enemies that will fade over time. the downside of using an active scanner is that enemies scanned by it get the "you have been scanned" pop up on their screens alerting them to the fact their position is compromised. a suit's built in (passive) scanner doesn't give any warning to the enemy. active scanner results are also shared between all members of a squad. were passive scan isn't. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ why none of that matters to a heavy you're a heavy, as you have undoubtedly noticed you have the highest profile and precision of any suit and I don't think any heavy suit can fit an active scanner. scanning and it's related skills are all but useless to a heavy because it's scan range is terrible and it's precision and profile are so high that they can't reasonably be brought down with the use of modules. your slots would be better served with using the slots to add tank and dps. if you get scanned just yell "COME AT ME BRO" because there is no efficient way to avoid it. GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:49:00 - [85] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: this is really soul less we are basically min maxing a suit out for him... but there is a lot of good information for new players here and it answers a lot of questions not covered in the tutorial, so I'll lend my expertise. it looks like you're a heavy, your job is tanking and dealing absurd amounts of damage. you have the most health of any suit in the game but the trade off is that you're slow and have a high scan profile. I'm a scout so I don't know much about heavys but scanning and stealth is my trade. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ you inquired about scan precision, radius, & profile. scan profile: how easy it is for scanners to pick you up. (the lower your profile the better) scan precision: every suit has a built in scanner, the precision of your scanner is how "good" that scanner is.(low is good) scan range: the range in meters of your suits built in scanner.(default is 10m for heavys i think) how does it work? lets say you have a scan profile of 65db and I have a scanner with a scan precision of 55db since my suit scanner's precision is lower than your profile you appear on my mini map as long as you are in range of the scanner and a red chevron appears above your head even if you're in cover or behind a wall. if your scan profile is lower than my scan precision, however, you don't appear on the map or get the red chevron. the same effect as being scanned is produced by having someone in your line of sight (LoS). LoS has a perfect precision and is impossible to avoid by lowering scan profile(for now). LoS scans have a range of 90 meters [citation needed] so anything outside of 90m will not appear on your mini map or get the chevron even if you're looking right at them.(not sure how LoS scan is effected by sniper scopes) "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" some players use "active" scanners this is a piece of equipment that provides a temporary boost to the user's scan range and precision. it adds a orange red pulse affect to scanned enemies that will fade over time. the downside of using an active scanner is that enemies scanned by it get the "you have been scanned" pop up on their screens alerting them to the fact their position is compromised. a suit's built in (passive) scanner doesn't give any warning to the enemy. active scanner results are also shared between all members of a squad. were passive scan isn't. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ why none of that matters to a heavy you're a heavy, as you have undoubtedly noticed you have the highest profile and precision of any suit and I don't think any heavy suit can fit an active scanner. scanning and it's related skills are all but useless to a heavy because it's scan range is terrible and it's precision and profile are so high that they can't reasonably be brought down with the use of modules. your slots would be better served with using the slots to add tank and dps. if you get scanned just yell "COME AT ME BRO" because there is no efficient way to avoid it. I haven't bought a dropsuit yet. Just watching and learning. I have been cleaning up after some PRO suits that shatter enemy positions. I get assists and kills and throw down ammo. I did purchase militia suits light and heavy and each race. I am not sure what I like yet. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:53:00 - [86] - Quote Eberk Baldek wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression I agree more or less. And I even love my heavy repping logi suit. I just played in an epic Domination with maybe 5 or 6 heavies per side with HMGS at A. What a blast! I died 11 times, 5 or so in OBs , but it was worth it! You do get loads of warpoints, but fewer kills maybe ... if you actually repair ... Only got 5 or so kills in this battle . The grinding can get a little boring . I would have thought a support role is less skilled but using the tools is difficult while evading gunfire and covering the injured. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1556	Posted - 2014.03.04 22:56:00 - [87] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: knight of 6 wrote: this is really soul less we are basically min maxing a suit out for him... but there is a lot of good information for new players here and it answers a lot of questions not covered in the tutorial, so I'll lend my expertise. it looks like you're a heavy, your job is tanking and dealing absurd amounts of damage. you have the most health of any suit in the game but the trade off is that you're slow and have a high scan profile. I'm a scout so I don't know much about heavys but scanning and stealth is my trade. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ you inquired about scan precision, radius, & profile. scan profile: how easy it is for scanners to pick you up. (the lower your profile the better) scan precision: every suit has a built in scanner, the precision of your scanner is how "good" that scanner is.(low is good) scan range: the range in meters of your suits built in scanner.(default is 10m for heavys i think) how does it work? lets say you have a scan profile of 65db and I have a scanner with a scan precision of 55db since my suit scanner's precision is lower than your profile you appear on my mini map as long as you are in range of the scanner and a red chevron appears above your head even if you're in cover or behind a wall. if your scan profile is lower than my scan precision, however, you don't appear on the map or get the red chevron. the same effect as being scanned is produced by having someone in your line of sight (LoS). LoS has a perfect precision and is impossible to avoid by lowering scan profile(for now). LoS scans have a range of 90 meters [citation needed] so anything outside of 90m will not appear on your mini map or get the chevron even if you're looking right at them.(not sure how LoS scan is effected by sniper scopes) "YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED" some players use "active" scanners this is a piece of equipment that provides a temporary boost to the user's scan range and precision. it adds a orange red pulse affect to scanned enemies that will fade over time. the downside of using an active scanner is that enemies scanned by it get the "you have been scanned" pop up on their screens alerting them to the fact their position is compromised. a suit's built in (passive) scanner doesn't give any warning to the enemy. active scanner results are also shared between all members of a squad. were passive scan isn't. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ why none of that matters to a heavy you're a heavy, as you have undoubtedly noticed you have the highest profile and precision of any suit and I don't think any heavy suit can fit an active scanner. scanning and it's related skills are all but useless to a heavy because it's scan range is terrible and it's precision and profile are so high that they can't reasonably be brought down with the use of modules. your slots would be better served with using the slots to add tank and dps. if you get scanned just yell "COME AT ME BRO" because there is no efficient way to avoid it. I haven't bought a dropsuit yet. Just watching and learning. I have been cleaning up after some PRO suits that shatter enemy positions. I get assists and kills and throw down ammo. I did purchase militia suits light and heavy and each race. I am not sure what I like yet. well if you have a scouty questions feel free to ask. either here or there is a thread in the locker room called the barber shop where a lot of the scouts on the forums go to talk shop. I'm sure they'd be happy to help. GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,


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