DUST Search - What playstyle allows the fastest character progression?

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Dust community, why haven't you given this guy a straight answer yet? Goregasm Elite, the answer to your question is that no play style allows the fastest character progression to any significant degree. The reason behind this is that there are three ways to gain skill points,

1. Passively
2. Daily log-ins
3. Actively

Obviously no matter what play style you choose, the amount of points you gain passively and through logging in are the same. Now the thing to consider with actively gaining skill points is how those points are rewarded. The answer is simple

Active skill points rewarded = (Seconds spent in battle x 5) + (warpoints earned x 1)

Now let's say your typical skirmish match lasts 15 minutes. That is 900 seconds, meaning 4500 SP just from that part of of the equation alone. Now as you can see quite clearly, whether you gain 500 WP, 1000 WP, or 2000 WP a match, most your points are coming from simply participating (unfortunately, depending on who you ask). So my advice to you is don't pick a role based on how fast you can gain SP, but rather pick a role on what you think is fun.

P.S.
Passive points are rewarded 1,000 an hour, so 24,000 a day and 168,000 a week.
Login in at max is 6,000 a day so 42,000 a week.
Active points are rewarded up to 190,400 a week.
After you hit the active cap for the week you can still earn up to 1,000 WP.

Ignoring any points gained after hitting the cap, you gain 400,400 SP a week.

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Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:01:00 - [1] - Quote I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Onesimus Tarsus TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 1339	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:08:00 - [2] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Start an alt, use no SP, grab a starter fit and join me in "no SP warriors" chat!
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2951	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:08:00 - [3] - Quote Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. I GÖú Kittens.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:14:00 - [4] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:15:00 - [5] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Did someone abuse you? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11942	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:20:00 - [6] - Quote Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3318	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:22:00 - [7] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. Did someone abuse you? CCP abused us all, didn't you know. Everybody left is just here on Stockholm Syndrome. No.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:22:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1472	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:24:00 - [9] - Quote Run militia fits, spec some into core skills. 1.8 patch is released in 2 weeks or so with new stuff. Drop it like its hat.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11942	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [10] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? It takes more SP to fill out all that equipment, but even just using all standard gear you can pull in good WP each match doing this. Use a MLT dropship at the start of matches to place your uplinks in hard to reach places, and put your nanohives up there so your team can camp them and you get more WP. You might lose the match since your team just ends up camping on towers, but what do you care? You soak up the WP, and don't earn anything extra for a win as opposed to a loss. Reps give you TONS of WP since they removed the WP cap, just follow a heavy around. Scanners will give you oodles of points in a squad, particularly from orbitals, and 60 WP every time someone dies and doesn't bleed out is just money in the bank. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot

Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 912	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [11] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? It's a real strategy, but it usually only works if your team is the losing one. If your team is doing the stomping then you won't get as many points. Also, uplinks are only good if they don't get destroyed, so learn which maps benefit from uplinks in dropship access only areas. And learn to fly.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1224	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [12] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: I am doing some research before spending my skill points. It looks like I can get 168,000-210,000 from passive skill points every week. If I am understanding how the login bonus works this should be accurate. I cant find an exact number for the active cap. 185,000? Roughly 400,000 a week. It doesn't seem too bad. What is the best class and weapons for making experience? Which game mode allows me to get the most training? Do any of you purchase boosters? Is the gain worth the money? I was reading about faction boosters but it seems the faction warfare game mode is an extra layer to buying gear that I don't need yet. Is it important? I have a million questions but I don't want people to skip over an intimidating block of text. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Never. Ever. Spend one thin dime on this game. Go Gal Logi proto as soon as possible and get a rail rifle. Then you will have won this game and you can then move on to something else. i c wat u did dere "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2956	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:27:00 - [13] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Militia Scout, Militia Assault Rifle, Skirmish Game Mode. Do this until you hit 5,000,000 SP, without spending a single point, and you will be ready for anything and have enough ISK to back it up. I don't have that much patience, honestly. This character came with 10,000,000 Skill points. After a few hours examining the skill tree I don't think it will be enough. 10,000,000 is plenty to have 1 thoroughly badass build. Max out your 4 main dropsuit upgrades (armor, shields, biotics, and CPU/PG) Light Weapons Operations and Sidearms Operations to level 5 Handheld Weapons Upgrades to level 5 Your favorite weapon to level 5, and level 5 Proficiency Favorite dropsuit level 3 on basic frame and level 5 on the racial variant That should leave you with about 1.5 million left to invest in a couple of ADV trinkets. I GÖú Kittens.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:28:00 - [14] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Run militia fits, spec some into core skills. 1.8 patch is released in 2 weeks or so with new stuff. Which core skills will help the most? It seems like people recommend militia stuff. The basic seems so cheap and it has better fitting requirements. What is the reason for running inferior gear? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 5	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:32:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Goregasm Elite wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Logistics. Have a fit for nanohives and uplinks, spam those at the start of the match, then switch to your scanner / rep / injector and soak up those points from your squad / random blueberries. Most WP for least effort = fastest character progression This sounds like a start. I was told this is a thinking mans shooter. Is this really a strategy or are you pulling my leg? It takes more SP to fill out all that equipment, but even just using all standard gear you can pull in good WP each match doing this. Use a MLT dropship at the start of matches to place your uplinks in hard to reach places, and put your nanohives up there so your team can camp them and you get more WP. You might lose the match since your team just ends up camping on towers, but what do you care? You soak up the WP, and don't earn anything extra for a win as opposed to a loss. Reps give you TONS of WP since they removed the WP cap, just follow a heavy around. Scanners will give you oodles of points in a squad, particularly from orbitals, and 60 WP every time someone dies and doesn't bleed out is just money in the bank. Thank you. I am going to try this. Is there a way to win? That would be preferable. This game sounds brutal. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7160	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:34:00 - [16] - Quote Dust community, why haven't you given this guy a straight answer yet? Goregasm Elite, the answer to your question is that no play style allows the fastest character progression to any significant degree. The reason behind this is that there are three ways to gain skill points, 1. Passively 2. Daily log-ins 3. Actively Obviously no matter what play style you choose, the amount of points you gain passively and through logging in are the same. Now the thing to consider with actively gaining skill points how those points are rewarded. The answer is simple Active skill points rewarded = (Seconds spent in battle x 5) + (warpoints earned x 1) Now let's say your typical skirmish match lasts 15 minutes. That is 900 seconds, meaning 4500 SP just from that part of of the equation alone. Now as you can see quite clearly, whether you gain 500 WP, 1000 WP, or 2000 WP a match, most your points are coming from simply participating (unfortunately, depending on who you ask). So my advice to you is don't pick a role based on how fast you can gain SP, but rather pick a role on what you think is fun. P.S. Passive points are rewarded 1,000 an hour, so 24,000 a day and 168,000 a week. Login in at max is 6,000 a day so 42,000 a week. Active points are rewarded up to 190,400 a week. After you hit the active cap for the week you can still earn up to 1,000 WP. Ignoring any points gained after hitting the cap, you gain 400,400 SP a week. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 324	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:38:00 - [17] - Quote Don't spend any points until we know if 1.8 comes with any form of Respec. If we don't get one, wait to see all the final stats. If we are getting one, spend your points frivolously to try things out (note, only spend them on things they state we get back, more than likely dropsuit command stuff). xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:41:00 - [18] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Dust community, why haven't you given this guy a straight answer yet? Goregasm Elite, the answer to your question is that no play style allows the fastest character progression to any significant degree. The reason behind this is that there are three ways to gain skill points, 1. Passively 2. Daily log-ins 3. Actively Obviously no matter what play style you choose, the amount of points you gain passively and through logging in are the same. Now the thing to consider with actively gaining skill points is how those points are rewarded. The answer is simple Active skill points rewarded = (Seconds spent in battle x 5) + (warpoints earned x 1) Now let's say your typical skirmish match lasts 15 minutes. That is 900 seconds, meaning 4500 SP just from that part of of the equation alone. Now as you can see quite clearly, whether you gain 500 WP, 1000 WP, or 2000 WP a match, most your points are coming from simply participating (unfortunately, depending on who you ask). So my advice to you is don't pick a role based on how fast you can gain SP, but rather pick a role on what you think is fun. P.S. Passive points are rewarded 1,000 an hour, so 24,000 a day and 168,000 a week. Login in at max is 6,000 a day so 42,000 a week. Active points are rewarded up to 190,400 a week. After you hit the active cap for the week you can still earn up to 1,000 WP. Ignoring any points gained after hitting the cap, you gain 400,400 SP a week. Highly educational. After the cap those WP = SP? Also there are two other slots for creating characters, I notice they do not receive passive skill point gain. Can I use these for something or are they just for show? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:45:00 - [19] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Don't spend any points until we know if 1.8 comes with any form of Respec. If we don't get one, wait to see all the final stats. If we are getting one, spend your points frivolously to try things out (note, only spend them on things they state we get back, more than likely dropsuit command stuff). Though doing passive things (CPU, PG, Armor, Shields, and Biotics) never really hurt anyone, unless they didn't do them. Re-Specialization? I heard you can not do that. Was I misinformed? With how complicated everything is, it would be a nice feature. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 9	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:48:00 - [20] - Quote How do the skill multipliers work? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7168	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:49:00 - [21] - Quote Goregasm Elite wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: snip Highly educational. After the cap those WP = SP? Also there are two other slots for creating characters, I notice they do not receive passive skill point gain. Can I use these for something or are they just for show? Yes sorry I should of been more clear. After you hit the cap for the week you get as much SP per match as your WP, with a cap of 1000. So if you gain 852 WP in a match after cap, you'll get 852 more SP. If you get 1000 WP in a match after cap, you'll get 1000 more SP. And if you get 3000 WP in a match after cap, you'll still get just 1000 more SP. Weekly cap resets every Wednesday on downtime (so to use right now as an example, after the next downtime the cap will be reset). You can create a second and third character as an alt and I believe back in the closed beta CCP allowed them to gain passive points as well, but currently you cannot. You can still log into them every day to get the log in bonus, but that is a very slow progression if its your only source of SP. If there is another account on your PS3 however and that account has a character on Dust then it will receive passive skill points (one of the many reason people suggest that CCP simply allow our two given alts to receive passive SP). Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 327	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:51:00 - [22] - Quote A base x1 skill costs around 310,000 sp to get to level 5, so, just take that number times whatever the multiplier to get how much level 5. That's all. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 407	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:52:00 - [23] - Quote secondary characters are good for other types of playstyles or out right espionage and theft, keep the theft part in mind
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:54:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: You can create a second and third character as an alt and I believe back in the closed beta CCP allowed them to gain passive points as well, but currently you cannot. You can still log into them every day to get the log in bonus, but that is a very slow progression if its your only source of SP. If there is another account on your PS3 however and that account has a character on Dust then it will receive passive skill points (one of the many reason people suggest that CCP simply allow our two given alts to receive passive SP). Good thinking. Do I need more than one character? Is it better to use one or switch to a another after the skill points start to trickle? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:56:00 - [25] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: A base x1 skill costs around 310,000 sp to get to level 5, so, just take that number times whatever the multiplier to get how much level 5. That's all. Thanks. Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2496	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:58:00 - [26] - Quote A lot of people will tell you to go for the FoTM. Don't listen. Save your SP till we find out about the next update. We should be getting a blog in a week or so and the update shortly after. I believe the system goes: Cores to 3 Suit Weapon There is no right suit to use(though most will say to go for a Cal or Gal Logi) or right weapon(though most people will say RR/CR/ScR or some jerks will say the AR) Stick with MLT suits and throw a point or two into a few weapons to test the waters. With the login bonus I think you get a extra 42,000 sp a week(after maxing it out in the 7th day) so consider that a little bonus to you around with some weapons. Give us a idea of what your play style is, what you have tried and what you wanna try to do overall. Do you intend to stick to the ground? Vehicles? Are you a fan of armour? Shields? Reps? Would you rather sneak around? Defend a point? Be a force multiplier? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 441	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:58:00 - [27] - Quote Guitar class: Heavy Piano class: Logi Scout & Other Meds in between. 32db Mad Bomber.
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 64	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:00:00 - [28] - Quote My advice, listen to Aero Yassavi and don't spend your sp on weapons and dropsuits yet. The best thing is to get your dropsuit upgrades done(Shield, Armor, core, electronics, and engineering) these will be you most important in survivability and fitting you dropsuits with good gear when you chose your dropsuit, weapons, equipment. Now under you armor and shield upgrades are you choices of armor plates/repairs, shield extenders/regulators/and energizers. you don't want to skill those till you decide what suit you want., well maybe not the armour reps because I use one on every suit I disagree with Ryno(?) I would not worry about handheld weapon upgrades( gives you damage modules) to start with depending on your suit I would worry about what I listed above Just my opinion. Proud Commando/ARC Instructor "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Goregasm Elite Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:04:00 - [29] - Quote Thanjac wrote: My advice, listen to Aero Yassavi and don't spend your sp on weapons and dropsuits yet. The best thing is to get your dropsuit upgrades done(Shield, Armor, core, electronics, and engineering) these will be you most important in survivability and fitting you dropsuits with good gear when you chose your dropsuit, weapons, equipment. Now under you armor and shield upgrades are you choices of armor plates/repairs, shield extenders/regulators/and energizers. you don't want to skill those till you decide what suit you want., well maybe not the armour reps because I use one on every suit I disagree with Ryno(?) I would not worry about handheld weapon upgrades( gives you damage modules) to start with depending on your suit I would worry about what I listed above Just my opinion. The core skills are part of my clone right? Do they apply to all of my load-outs? Grizzly Addams did have a beard.
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 64	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:05:00 - [30] - Quote Yes, not sure if they apply to your starterfits though(your Free suits) Proud Commando/ARC Instructor "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."



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