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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.13 06:16:00 -
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OMG! OP, your post just helped me realize that the sky is blue! Vote for Pedro!
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
390
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Posted - 2014.02.13 07:00:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:OMG! OP, your post just helped me realize that the sky is blue! Vote for Pedro! The sky is blue but I dont know where pedro stands on abortion so I can't in good conscious offer my support. |
Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
268
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:51:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:OMG! OP, your post just helped me realize that the sky is blue! Vote for Pedro! The sky is blue but I dont know where pedro stands on abortion so I can't in good conscious offer my support. Just looked outside, that ***** grey. I say Pedro's a flip flopper who needs to tell us his REAL stance on skies and colors and chem-trails. |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
274
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:52:00 -
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Bump for blue tags. |
da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
297
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Posted - 2014.02.13 23:14:00 -
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Hobo on Fire wrote:I think your forgetting another chunk of the playerbase: people who have heard of/are interested by Eve but don't want to play it.
I've heard stories about all the crazy things that happen in Eve for years, and have always been fascinated by it. Every time I watched some gameplay videos or read a write up of some huge battle though, my reaction has been that it looks too much like work or is far too slow paced to keep my interest. As an actual SA goon I would have a foot in the door with one of the most powerful alliances in Eve, but it's not enough to make me want to play... I'm content to sit back and wait for the next article about 2000 people logged into a single battle and shooting at each other.
I was attracted to Dust because it was a way to get involved in New Eden's crazy MMO aspect, while playing a more conventional, faster paced game. I've stuck around for almost a year now because of the people I play with, and CCP's promise that one day Dust will actually make a difference in New Eden, which they have yet to deliver on.
I've said it before, CCP doesn't have the resources to make Dust the next Call of Duty or Battlefield; it will never compete with the big boys as a pure FPS. The MMO aspect is where it can stand out and make a real name for itself, because CCP has already made an MMO so interesting people who don't even play it have an interest in it's workings, politics and battles.
Exactly the reason most of us are here, the FPS experience is ok... but honestly if we had more of that link between us and EVE like boarding titans and being on an EVE players ship to get to another planet and such would be enough to make up for the FPS part right now.
Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
397
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Posted - 2014.02.14 06:27:00 -
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Hobo on Fire wrote:I think your forgetting another chunk of the playerbase: people who have heard of/are interested by Eve but don't want to play it.
I've heard stories about all the crazy things that happen in Eve for years, and have always been fascinated by it. Every time I watched some gameplay videos or read a write up of some huge battle though, my reaction has been that it looks too much like work or is far too slow paced to keep my interest. As an actual SA goon I would have a foot in the door with one of the most powerful alliances in Eve, but it's not enough to make me want to play... I'm content to sit back and wait for the next article about 2000 people logged into a single battle and shooting at each other.
I was attracted to Dust because it was a way to get involved in New Eden's crazy MMO aspect, while playing a more conventional, faster paced game. I've stuck around for almost a year now because of the people I play with, and CCP's promise that one day Dust will actually make a difference in New Eden, which they have yet to deliver on.
I've said it before, CCP doesn't have the resources to make Dust the next Call of Duty or Battlefield; it will never compete with the big boys as a pure FPS. The MMO aspect is where it can stand out and make a real name for itself, because CCP has already made an MMO so interesting people who don't even play it have an interest in it's workings, politics and battles. This is me, another homeless who may be ablaze. |
Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
280
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:24:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Hobo on Fire wrote:I think your forgetting another chunk of the playerbase: people who have heard of/are interested by Eve but don't want to play it.
I've heard stories about all the crazy things that happen in Eve for years, and have always been fascinated by it. Every time I watched some gameplay videos or read a write up of some huge battle though, my reaction has been that it looks too much like work or is far too slow paced to keep my interest. As an actual SA goon I would have a foot in the door with one of the most powerful alliances in Eve, but it's not enough to make me want to play... I'm content to sit back and wait for the next article about 2000 people logged into a single battle and shooting at each other.
I was attracted to Dust because it was a way to get involved in New Eden's crazy MMO aspect, while playing a more conventional, faster paced game. I've stuck around for almost a year now because of the people I play with, and CCP's promise that one day Dust will actually make a difference in New Eden, which they have yet to deliver on.
I've said it before, CCP doesn't have the resources to make Dust the next Call of Duty or Battlefield; it will never compete with the big boys as a pure FPS. The MMO aspect is where it can stand out and make a real name for itself, because CCP has already made an MMO so interesting people who don't even play it have an interest in it's workings, politics and battles. This is me, another homeless who may be ablaze. The preferred nomenclature is thermally-active-residentially-challenged-american. Check yo housing privilege, cis-thermal scum.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
400
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:26:00 -
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I have been shown who is the boss! |
Zohar Colichemarde
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
28
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:24:00 -
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Bumping this back up to the front page.
I <3 Laser Rocks.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:28:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:OMG! OP, your post just helped me realize that the sky is blue! Vote for Pedro! The sky is blue but I dont know where pedro stands on abortion so I can't in good conscious offer my support.
Yeah man, abortion is def the the defining issue in modern politics, just like gay rights - there is just nothing else left to solve in the world
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
464
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:41:00 -
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I've been out of the game for some 5 months now(work reasons).. But even before I left, I was getting burned out, due to lack of basically everything OP mentioned. I was really hoping things would be closer to 'on track' when I returned, but sadly the only changes I've seen have been in game mechanics and balancing. Not a single truly major change.
I'll certainly be playing again when I get home in a couple weeks, but how long I keep playing? Well, I suppose it's up to CCP really. We really need some serious direction and about this games future pushed down to the masses. Sure, balance changes are great, but when that's the only trick you've shown for over a year? That's pretty disappointing. |
Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
282
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:17:00 -
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The Word of Lowtax The Book of Samahiel 1:11
1 The words of the Samahiel, the son of Lowtax, king in New Eden.
2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Squad Leader, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
4 One generation of newbs passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the tryhards abideth for ever.
5 The server also ariseth, and the server goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
6 The balance goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the whine returneth again according to its circuits.
7 All the players queue into the match; yet the match is not full; unto the quarters from whence the players come, thither they return again.
8 All things are full of grinding; mercs cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing in the release.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after. |
lionshead nebula
The Exemplars Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.18 20:36:00 -
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All we could hope for is an acknowledgement from a dev that at least some fruit of the discussions had here entered the labyrinthine minds of the dev teams and as most decent discussions on these forums, this thread has proved reasonable yet stifled. |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
332
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Posted - 2014.02.20 20:53:00 -
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SUPER-NECRO-BUMP!!!!
There's no way a Dev can ignore this now.
Blue Tags Please! |
John McLeish
Science For Death
3
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:34:00 -
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Have the Devs responded to this anywhere? I remember someone posting that CCP Saberwing had said he'd seen the thread on twitter. I'm wondering if the response is there as well or perhaps the response will be in the next dev blog entry. |
Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
333
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:45:00 -
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John McLeish wrote:Have the Devs responded to this anywhere? I remember someone posting that CCP Saberwing had said he'd seen the thread on twitter. I'm wondering if the response is there as well or perhaps the response will be in the next dev blog entry.
Yeah, Sabrewing said he read the thread but there hasn't been any kind of official reply. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
11269
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:46:00 -
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The forums need a whole lot more of this
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
440
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:43:00 -
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Akdhar Saif wrote:SUPER-NECRO-BUMP!!!!
There's no way a Dev can ignore this now.
Blue Tags Please! You say that and yet, here we are. |
al nize mk2
DUST University Ivy League
21
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Posted - 2014.02.21 22:34:00 -
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I've been fascinated by this thread - obviously I'm not an EVE player and I'm pretty dreadful at DUST. But I am dedicated to DUST for many of the same reasons as better players and it seems EVE veterans.
I think there are problems and plenty of things need sorting out - but the potential is massive and so I will be hanging in there until something really horrific happens that puts me off. I like FPS games a lot but I also like RPG elements cropping up in seemingly diverse genres. Your squad levelling up in PES during master league for example. Demon's Souls was a magnificent hybrid that a fair few of my more casual gamer friends managed to get into.
DUST should seize this hybrid quality and milk it - they need to explain the SP system and the Dropsuit system much much better when you first download the game. Anyway that's an old complaint.
What i really want as a non-hardcore non-rpg-playing console casual pigdog are these things
1) I want to OWN things in the world and I want to defend them with my team, my squad, mercs I've paid for. Give me an editor, let me buy some land on some godforsaken planet and let me build a cr^ppy castle on it. Then let me defend it with my life like some sort of weird Gallente pioneer.
2) PUT ME INTO THE EVE UNIVERSE! You want DUST players to feel the love? Put us into the universe and start letting us affect it instantly. Send us into these big spaceships I keep hearing about and give us the chance to fight for it.. Or defend it.. or sabotage it or whatever.
3) You want us to grind? GREAT! BUT MAKE IT LESS HORRIFYING! give us a different way to grind other than blindly flailing amongst proto-stompers bullets and getting shot in the head 20 times before we've even turned around. Include a realistic grinding game option. You can send squads into hologram style training deck where they battle NPC's - you get less for doing it but you get something - and you learn and you don't lose precious clones every time you die because it's training - but it costs you time and patience. Or... why not send squads on hunts throughout the further reaches of the various systems. They can hunt local wildlife and yeah they can die but it's a lot easier and you can try out weapons and you earn experience/SP/maybe ISK.. You get a lot less but you get some and you learn as you go...
So really I don't think the game needs to be this dream AAA shooter that drags the COD/Battlefield crowd into it's clutches. Ain't gonna happen - those boys and girls are not budging. But DUST can be so much more and can pull in a massive crowd of people in the middle - people who love shooters but also enjoy the RPG elements and MMO elements that EVE is famous for.
If the game does stuff like this in the near future - hell I will stump up a monthly subscription instead of the off 4 quid here and there. I love DUST but call me selfish... I WANT MORE!!!
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2997
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Posted - 2014.02.21 23:20:00 -
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2 weeks, 200 posts, and no blue tag. |
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
338
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:05:00 -
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Obligatory Bump. |
Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
293
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Posted - 2014.02.25 15:44:00 -
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After my last post I took a break from this thread, and went back to focusing on making content for my line members (I also spent a good chunk of that camping N3 into 0-W). This far into the thread, the continued response is nice to see.
I have a feeling the CCP Rouge is laying the foundation for some big changes that will be announced at fanfest. My fear at this point, is that with the lack of expectation management and feedback, if the announcement isn't absolutely brilliant it will cause more damage than good to the community.
I guess we'll wait and see; Unfortunately for Dust an increasing number of our fellow players will do neither. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2948
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Posted - 2014.02.25 15:57:00 -
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I think we have to accept that this is a lobby shooter until they have a better platform (PS4) to work with.
Personally I believe the announcement should be a high level idea of what that might look like and entail. But ultimately they should provide various lobby shooter style game modes while we wait.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1674
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:08:00 -
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From my point of view announcements at this point are almost counter-productive. I wouldn't want to say anything until i had delivered real improvement to the game as measured by the quality of the player experience, for vets and new players. Content that took broken/incomplete systems and made them not merely functional but enjoyable.
The suit content we know is coming doesn't count - it's a neccessary prerequisite to fill out the racial suits, but it's nothing that indicates CCP is ready to do what it takes to make the game succeed while maintaining integrity with the principles of New Eden.
I support SP rollover.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3004
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:09:00 -
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Samahiel wrote:After my last post I took a break from this thread, and went back to focusing on making content for my line members (I also spent a good chunk of that camping N3 into 0-W). This far into the thread, the continued response is nice to see.
I have a feeling the CCP Rouge is laying the foundation for some big changes that will be announced at fanfest. My fear at this point, is that with the lack of expectation management and feedback, if the announcement isn't absolutely brilliant it will cause more damage than good to the community.
I guess we'll wait and see; Unfortunately for Dust an increasing number of our fellow players will do neither.
The irony here is that they're sort of damned if they do, damned if they don't at this point. At least, if they wait until Fanfest to deliver any real information.
I mean, if they announce some big changes at fanfest without having the content actually available for the people there to try out, who's going to be gullible enough to actually believe them considering their previous track record? On the other hand, if they wait until fanfest to announce anything, and it's just basic nuts and bolts of some more low level basic implementation of features of accessibility type stuff, they'll get hammered for not being ambitious enough.
The only way they can have a real impact at fanfest is if they actually have a bunch of content sitting on the backburner waiting to be revealed there. If they show up and say "here's what we're going to be doing in the next 3 months," and it's some big major changes and upgrades AND they already have a playable version for the people there to try out, then they'll get player's attention. However, if it's just more "pie in the sky" about their "long term goals" and their "10 year plan," no one is going to take them seriously. |
John McLeish
Science For Death
3
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:15:00 -
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So is that the consensus? Wait until Fanfest?
I'd still like to see a dev at least confirm that. |
Zohar Colichemarde
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
29
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Posted - 2014.02.26 05:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think we have to accept that this is a lobby shooter until they have a better platform (PS4) to work with.
Personally I believe the announcement should be a high level idea of what that might look like and entail. But ultimately they should provide various lobby shooter style game modes while we wait.
There is definitely a nugget of truth to this. While the PS4 would provide more space to implement better content and streamline a lot of things, it's by no means guaranteed.
I <3 Laser Rocks.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
719
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Posted - 2014.02.26 06:29:00 -
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A Goon in with the CPM is like walking backwards whilst cutting your own throat.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Samahiel
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
297
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Posted - 2014.02.26 21:08:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:A Goon in with the CPM is like walking backwards whilst cutting your own throat. You must be far more clever than I am; I've tried to parse this about three times already, and am still unsure in what possible context this post makes sense.
Edit: I think you think it's a bad thing? The real question is what brought this up, as there are no goon CPM candidates, and why would you hold such a prejudice in the face of all historical evidence and reason? |
lionshead nebula
The Exemplars Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 12:31:00 -
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Samahiel wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:A Goon in with the CPM is like walking backwards whilst cutting your own throat. You must be far more clever than I am; I've tried to parse this about three times already, and am still unsure in what possible context this post makes sense. Edit: I think you think it's a bad thing? The real question is what brought this up, as there are no goon CPM candidates, and why would you hold such a prejudice in the face of all historical evidence and reason? I think he wants to sit at the cool kids table but is too insecure to ask for permission. On another note, it looks like we will be waiting until all Dev teams are satisfied with their contribution in 1.8 before we hear anything. |
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