DUST Search - Squaring the Circle: A Manifesto on DUST 514s possible future

Hobo on Fire wrote:

I think your forgetting another chunk of the playerbase: people who have heard of/are interested by Eve but don't want to play it.

I've heard stories about all the crazy things that happen in Eve for years, and have always been fascinated by it. Every time I watched some gameplay videos or read a write up of some huge battle though, my reaction has been that it looks too much like work or is far too slow paced to keep my interest. As an actual SA goon I would have a foot in the door with one of the most powerful alliances in Eve, but it's not enough to make me want to play... I'm content to sit back and wait for the next article about 2000 people logged into a single battle and shooting at each other.

I was attracted to Dust because it was a way to get involved in New Eden's crazy MMO aspect, while playing a more conventional, faster paced game. I've stuck around for almost a year now because of the people I play with, and CCP's promise that one day Dust will actually make a difference in New Eden, which they have yet to deliver on.

I've said it before, CCP doesn't have the resources to make Dust the next Call of Duty or Battlefield; it will never compete with the big boys as a pure FPS. The MMO aspect is where it can stand out and make a real name for itself, because CCP has already made an MMO so interesting people who don't even play it have an interest in it's workings, politics and battles.


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da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 288	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:09:00 - [1] - Quote The game needs that EVE side in Dust to keep this game interesting because... well that's the only reason most people are here. That link is what makes it unique but that's it, I do agree that the FPS side needs to be worked on also but both need to be worked on a lot now. Without that MMO side there's nothing but a promise from CCP to keep people in the game but with bad FPS mechanics it could keep new people away from dust 514 Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 288	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:20:00 - [2] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Tolen Rosas wrote: go 2 SA forums, EVE forums or read TM.com or even EN24. the contempt for dust is thick enough to cut with a knife. conversely, people are very excited about EVE valkyrie so it seems ur learning something about quality and delivering on promises, CCP. People were really excited about DUST when it was in development too. CCP does not learn. Valkyrie will fail to deliver on it's promises, and disappoint everyone. I wonder how CCP thinks that working on Valkyrie,EVE,Dust 514 and World of Darkness at the same time is a great idea. Sure they have different teams working on these games but you can only hire so many people for each of these projects. I wonder which team is the biggest, it wouldn't surprise me if Dust 514 has the smallest team working on it. Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 288	Posted - 2014.02.06 03:30:00 - [3] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I am unsure a lot of forethought goes into CCP decisions. Valkyrie went from "just a little experiment we were messing with and aren't making into a game" to an upcoming product because they won an award at E3 for showing it off. hehehe although that seems stupid this is CCP we are talking about so I find it hard to not be true Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 297	Posted - 2014.02.13 23:14:00 - [4] - Quote Hobo on Fire wrote: I think your forgetting another chunk of the playerbase: people who have heard of/are interested by Eve but don't want to play it. I've heard stories about all the crazy things that happen in Eve for years, and have always been fascinated by it. Every time I watched some gameplay videos or read a write up of some huge battle though, my reaction has been that it looks too much like work or is far too slow paced to keep my interest. As an actual SA goon I would have a foot in the door with one of the most powerful alliances in Eve, but it's not enough to make me want to play... I'm content to sit back and wait for the next article about 2000 people logged into a single battle and shooting at each other. I was attracted to Dust because it was a way to get involved in New Eden's crazy MMO aspect, while playing a more conventional, faster paced game. I've stuck around for almost a year now because of the people I play with, and CCP's promise that one day Dust will actually make a difference in New Eden, which they have yet to deliver on. I've said it before, CCP doesn't have the resources to make Dust the next Call of Duty or Battlefield; it will never compete with the big boys as a pure FPS. The MMO aspect is where it can stand out and make a real name for itself, because CCP has already made an MMO so interesting people who don't even play it have an interest in it's workings, politics and battles. Exactly the reason most of us are here, the FPS experience is ok... but honestly if we had more of that link between us and EVE like boarding titans and being on an EVE players ship to get to another planet and such would be enough to make up for the FPS part right now. Don't make it easy for them, take a few down with you.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 507	Posted - 2014.03.17 00:42:00 - [5] - Quote bump just so CCP remembers that their EVE players are also not so happy with the game currently (1.8 better be worth it) After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.