It's good and a fine weapon, as a non-rail rifle user i think the range should be cut off a bit maybe 15% and thats it, the recoil stops it being king and separates it from the AR wich has less recoil.

Generally 100 % bullshit.

Try to fire RR while strafe, when your opponent is on the move.

How many same topics you will start over and over?

It's too accurate.
Due to it's low fire rate (meaning you know when the bullets will fly out of the barrel) and EXTREME hip fire accuracy, it can apply full DPS at any time.

An AR, while accurate, is not as accurate, and unless the target is sitting still or moving RIGHT at you, you will never apply full DPS.
Even while aiming down sights, due to it's fire rate if the target is moving you usually can't apply full DPS.


So you have a weapon with the same DPS as the AR, higher range, higher accuracy, better damage application...

RR DPS must be reduced, it's too accurate, has too much range and has too good of a damage application to have this much DPS.

Accuracy huh? I hope you mean hip fire accuracy and not ADS.

A simple fix would be this: The scoped RR currently fires 7.6 rounds a second, spitting out slugs that deal 50+ dmg a shot.

I think it needs to be changed to semi auto fire without a charge time. Sniper rifles are rail tech, and the tactical sniper rifle fires without a charge up, so I don't see why the RR cannot do the same.
I'd say adjust the fire rate so it can fire around 4-5 rounds a second while increasing damage per shot to compensate for dps drop.
The cqc QQ that the RR picks up is due to people being able to just hold down R1 while letting AA and strafing do the work.

Now if someone can line up a shot while firing a semi auto weapon from the hip, then I see no reason to deny them a kill.
Just make it so every new berry and their mate can't hold a button and profit.


The ARR doesn't need a change, since the lack of a sight limits the ability to fully utilize it's range.

Another RR QQ thread from Cat Merc LOL

Cat, you're a bad player so just shut up.

Another RR QQ thread from Cat Merc LOL

Cat, you're a bad player so just shut up.

And yet Breach weapons tend to have **** for DPS.
The Breach AR has 100 less DPS than the normal AR.

Give that thing the Hipfire spread of the Tactical Assault Rifle. All will be fine. (For the curious, try the TAR while strafing and fire at a wall. Look where the bullets go. This is how it should be with weapons meant for long range)

Tight hipfire is only a disadvantage in CQC if you're a terrible player.
If you can actually aim it's a massive advantage, and past the charge time if you're doing badly with a rail rifle in CQC you're doing it wrong.

And do you see anyone using a breach? The breach AR is in a pitiful state because of CCP's horrible track record of nerfing weapons. If I was king of the universe, I'd buff the breach's DPS while nerfing its range (the range being worse than regular AR, but better than an SMG).



The hip-fire for the TactAR is as bad as any weapon in CoD, making it virtually unusable. It's a damn slot machine.



That sort of irrelevant to be honest. Most people who play shooters are terrible which balances out in itself. The King of CQC may love the gun, but Average Joe may hate it the same situation. Don't get me wrong, I do understand that most of the arguments here are "it's too good at CQC!" but your argument displays the very problem: it varies from person to person.
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I mentioned before with KAGE that I don't think any weapon in the game should be useless in CQC besides the sniper rifle.

I gave the imaginary CQC situation of two people of a random skill level, one with a RR and the other with an AR. In my perfect view of the game, the guy with the AR wins 3/5 times. That's balanced to me. What so many people seem to want to happen to an apparently OP weapon is the extreme of 0-1/10.

If people really think the weapon is OP then why not bring down the weapon damage by 5 in each tier?

Also entertained the idea in my head of reducing the recoil thereby reducing headshots. After all, more recoil often equals more headshots. That's what happened to me in MAG and BF3. Just an idea.

I gave the imaginary CQC situation of two people of a random skill level, one with a RR and the other with an AR. In my perfect view of the game, the guy with the AR wins 3/5 times. That's balanced to me. What so many people seem to want to happen to an apparently OP weapon is the extreme of 0-1/10.

This one is my... second.
Yeah I'm totally spamming those

And I guess me having all four rifles to prof III (AR and SCR to IV), and me seeing that the CR and RR are outperforming the AR like mad means I'm bad?
Right...

Textbook crutch defense, telling the OP that he's bad.
You are also engaging in a logical fallacy by doing so, even if I was bad that doesn't mean my argument is false.



Is that enough to make you STFU?

Awwww poor kitty is my crutch better than your crutch? You want my crutch nerfed so your crutch can be better again? Yes? that's your bad player mentality right there.

umm the RR doesn't kick when you strafe and fire in ADS lol

And when your opponent is on the move as long as there is distance more than 50 meters he is dead in 2 seconds.

Yep if he's loaded with armor. Try to beat caldari or shield minmatar without flux.
You can change hipfire I don't care of it.

Most people who complain here are armor fit users, slow and low shield.
I'm playing as an amarr logi, when I was fully armor I was easy target for RR.
I've changed fit, put more shield on it and now RR isn't so good against me.

Also:
IF U are:
*AR user,
*CR user,
*HMG user,
*Shotgun user,
...and U complain that somebody killed you in CQC from RR than like somebody smart said here before:

"You are doing something wrong"

Actually the breach AR has the same range as the AR.

If the RR had the DPS of the Breach, it would still be better because it has nearly double the range.

See, here's the thing.

In the RR's range, the RR will win 9/10 times. Why is it that in the 'best' range for the plasma rifle it should only be allowed to win 3/5 times?

And if the AR wins in close range 3/5 times, I want the AR to win at long range 2/5 times.
But it doesn't happen, unless the RR user is literally sitting still and wanting to be killed, it doesn't happen.

I remember one occasion, I was using a Logistics Ck.0 with my Balac's. 588/344 HP, gone in 3 seconds from 50 meters away. What was I killed by? SB-39. None of my team had Nanite Injectors, aside from the starter fit noobs that have no idea what they're doing. That pissed me off so badly, some Standard suit just obliterating me with no effort, and losing my rare salvage I protected so well.

So...
Me wanting my rifle to beat your rifle where it's supposed to beat it means I want a crutch?

AR is stupidly pointless, I want it on par with the RR.

TTK is too low as is, so buffing the AR is out of the question.

And again you just talk about RR whilst overlooking that you put it on par with the CR?

You're stupidly pointless.

Buff the AR, remove AA.

I want that ratio too. I think the range at which the AR becomes useless is too short. Or range in general in inherently impossible to balance, but I'm not positive yet.

Now its a accuracy problem.

You know, quiet as its kept, the truth no one is talking about is player skill involved. The truth no one is talking about is that the CR really trumps. But the common merc doesn't know that.

The running theme? "I don't adapt my playstyle, the game must adapt to me. How could a person actually be good with a RR trump with CQC? That's utterly impossible! I demand a nerf!"

Implying that it's hard to win in CQC with the RR compared to Lasers, Assault MDs, and Sniper Rifles.