I alternate between sniper and frontline on most maps. The main problem with being a long ranged sniper (I never hide behind the redline btw) is that most of the positions you have anything like a good vantage point of the battlefield are stupidly far out to the point where you can't see a damn thing (they could fix that by giving us a zoom like you would expect with a scope), are so close in that you're better off using an AR/RR/LR instead or you need to be able to use a dropship to get to them.

Even on the rare maps when I use only a sniper setup, I can be fairly sure I'll die once or twice and my k/d ratio is usually more towards the d than the k.

Someone mentioned that sniping's easy, just crouch, point and click. Try more like crouch, point click curse that they moved just slightly differently to how you expected, wait for a couple of seconds until you can shoot again and.... Oh look they're not in your scope anymore. And if you need to reload between shots forget about being able to find who you were aiming at again. Or, if you actually manage to hit them it's usually curse that you weren't aiming in the pixel or two where it registers as a headshot and watch their shields regenerate whilst they evade. That's a much harder kill than spray a load of bullets/light in the direction of the opponent and watch their hp melt away.

I'm not saying that a sniper rifle should be a rapid fire weapon, just that it should be usable as an accurate, hard hitting weapon. Zooms on scopes could be for advanced or prototype only maybe with a greater level of zoom being on the more expensive rifles. It would be nice if we had a map where you could be effective as a sniper as well, rather than having only a very small view of the main areas of the map where the assault, logis and heavies spend most of their time.

My playstyle may be different from yours, but it should no less valid as an option.

And all of that effort for a single unit.

See? A sniper is disruptive enough without doing massive damage.
If you want a damage increase, bullet physics must happen.

Bullet physics are less of an issue over the range of a map than you would think if the bullet is travelling at around 2 - 2.5km/s

And here we have the most garbage players in dust focused around a single thread.


List of current crutches for these players-

A 600m range of full damage.
Nearly 0 risk of death.
600+ damage per shot.
Only weapon able to use officer variant 100% of the time.
Only weapon able to use damage mods without real user risk.
Only infantry weapon able to sit in the invincible redline to be effective.
No bullet drop.
No innate inaccuracy, and no inaccuracy from wind speed.
Head glitch through shoddy sniper detection means snipers abusing the hill glitch are invincible.

And still they ask for buffs...

And somebody said snipers are hard to use? Wtf bro do you even have hands? If you have hands then NO sniping in dust IS NOT hard.

The problem is the Low Headshot modifier and that the "High Alpha" weapons (low Rate of Fire) weapons do not scale compared to the HP of Suit in Uprising. Only made worse by the HP buff given to Armor Plates.

The STD Sniper Rifle and Tacticle Sniper Rifle are fine where they are. They are quite adapt at killing Standard Suits.

The Advanced Tier needs a large buff to damage. Instead of a 5% bonus to damage that the DPS weapons get the Alpha Weapons should get somewhere for 15-25% increase.

While another 15-25% increase at the Prototype level.

A weapon should not be balanced by the need for damage mods nor the need to use the officer gear.

Hardest weapons in the game to use?
Are you joking?

Crouch, point, click. You can sit half a kilometre off at practically no risk and just point and click things.
Even rifles are more difficult to use, and that's really saying something.

And here we have the most garbage players in dust focused around a single thread.


List of current crutches for these players-

A 600m range of full damage.
Nearly 0 risk of death.
600+ damage per shot.
Only weapon able to use officer variant 100% of the time.
Only weapon able to use damage mods without real user risk.
Only infantry weapon able to sit in the invincible redline to be effective.
No bullet drop.
No innate inaccuracy, and no inaccuracy from wind speed.
Head glitch through shoddy sniper detection means snipers abusing the hill glitch are invincible.

And still they ask for buffs...

And somebody said snipers are hard to use? Wtf bro do you even have hands? If you have hands then NO sniping in dust IS NOT hard.

Don't add up for what? I am sure you can score some decent assists with it and can area deny. You should not have the deadly efficiency of a slayer from the comfort of your perch 1 km away from the action.

1HKO all of my suits except the Heavy.

Snipers DO suck as you say. BUT the Sniper Rifle is good...

;)

The HP buff did hurt the sniper rifle, but I can still mash face with a C15-A ADV rifle, just gotta hit heads now. Personally I think that snipers should have a base DMG of STD-750 TAC-500 CHARGE-900. But add bullet physics, dip, sway, wind. With this increased scopes would help, most hunters in michigans woodlands have a better scope on their .22 squirrel killer.

They suck? You insane? Just yesterday our team was helpless as we got picked off 1 by 1 on domination, it was either cower behind the wall or die. I had 1200+hp and almost got two-shotted. We finally managed to shoo him away after some Logi's came to the rescue, but by then he was 12-0 and their MCC still had 60% shields

I wasn't aware that snipers were broken. maybe it's because my scout gets ohko'd by them (luckly I will soon be super sneek invisible).

just yesterday I popped some charge sniper dip with my ADV tac sniper. he was hiding in his redline like a big shot while his team got massacred below. maybe it's just a culture I don't understand but how can you watch your team fight valiantly against an all cap from a hill and do nothing to help? it's one thing to see that your team is winning or at least competitive and swap out so a sniper and lock down a null cannon but if your losing the objective game why on earth are you playing defensively?

until there is a fix for redline sniping I don't want to see any buffs to snipers(not that the sniper needs a buff imo)

The Advanced Tier needs a large buff to damage. Instead of a 5% bonus to damage that the DPS weapons get the Alpha Weapons should get somewhere for 15-25% increase.

While another 15-25% increase at the Prototype level.

A weapon should not be balanced by the need for damage mods nor the need to use the officer gear.

Headshots do not terminate clones? When the hell did this happen?
When I get countersniped with a headshot, I generally lose my clone. Is there a bug with that?

And if you get countersniped but not neadshoted, you do not lose your clone???
If you were COUNTERSNIPED and there is NO logi with needle around, you cannot be revived...

If I'm countersniped and it's not a headshot then no, I don't lose my clone as I don't die. Like any other merc I likely lose my shield and some degree of armour.

My understanding of "countersniped" means death to you.
I believe your "countersniped" is being hit by sniper rifle, while sitting in brick tanked proto med or heavy frame?

otherwise it's just 'being sniped'.

I also have never used a prototype medium or heavy frame.

my bad, didn't noticed your sig...

advice for being a good sniper

1) ignore heavies till everything else is dead

2) spec into armor you need about 1000 ehp with triage hives to be able to snipe from any useful high ground position, for any length of time, eventually you will have a couple dozen wannabe snipers annoying you like flies, and if you are truly unlucky they will just being a advanced drop ship and you will be ******.

3) learn to accept that if you aren't thee ONLY person sniping on your team, you are part of the reason your team is losing, no matter how good you are at sniping if their is 10 snipers your team is losing because of you and all of them.

4) here is a list of all the things you will need to be a decent sniper level sniper op, level 5 sniper prof, thales, a proto suit, 3 proto weapon mods, repair hives, and nano hives.

5) come to terms with the fact that a militia suit using a basic version of any of the main rifles can get an equal KDR as you with near to no skill points and they say sniper is the easy mode =/

6) spec into a rifle fit, half the maps are now designed so that sniping is completely useless, on these maps you will need to fight from the ground unless you want to be useless. on the ones that are good for snipers expect to see 12 snipers on your team and you will likely be better off on the ground or just leaving....

advice for being a good sniper

1) ignore heavies till everything else is dead

2) spec into armor you need about 1000 ehp with triage hives to be able to snipe from any useful high ground position, for any length of time, eventually you will have a couple dozen wannabe snipers annoying you like flies, and if you are truly unlucky they will just being a advanced drop ship and you will be ******.

3) learn to accept that if you aren't thee ONLY person sniping on your team, you are part of the reason your team is losing, no matter how good you are at sniping if their is 10 snipers your team is losing because of you and all of them.

4) here is a list of all the things you will need to be a decent sniper level sniper op, level 5 sniper prof, thales, a proto suit, 3 proto weapon mods, repair hives, and nano hives.

5) come to terms with the fact that a militia suit using a basic version of any of the main rifles can get an equal KDR as you with near to no skill points and they say sniper is the easy mode =/

6) spec into a rifle fit, half the maps are now designed so that sniping is completely useless, on these maps you will need to fight from the ground unless you want to be useless. on the ones that are good for snipers expect to see 12 snipers on your team and you will likely be better off on the ground or just leaving....

If you have a Thale then you are fine. You can also get away with the KAAL and the Charge. The problem is hit detection and the fact it takes a lot of shots to take down a tanked heavy if your not using a Thale or Charge. If you are dealing with a smart heavy you will never kill them with a KAAL.

really pretty much all of the dedicated snipers in the game are specing CR,AR, or AR snipers can pubstomp like everybody else but they just dont measure up to proto dropsuits the thales being only viable sniper in pc

Really ? Ive never seen a dedicated sniper on the field.....they are pretty much still up there in their glass towers.

This offends me. Here is why true dedicated snipers cannot change the flow of a battle because when one of you poor bastards get hit and die you get a militia sniper out or tactical. As stated earlier by people the only way the sniper becomes a viable weapon is when you use all your highslots for damage mods. This should never be the case. The damage mods leave your suit weak unless you use a gallente suit or a logi suit. So typically you can take out most snipers with a single bullet to the head. By a suit that cost nothing. While our suits cost 160-200k at proto. That maybe can try to take out a suit that cost 75k.
Combine that with all the other interesting issues the sniper has makes me sad that I don't want to have a dedicated sniper in PC. People with proto snipers are great so we can quickly take care of a knat. But that is the only thing they are good for.